Prelude Mods????

[ryder_23]

Hi. my friend is just wondering what would be some decent mods, that give some noticeble power increase, besides, Turbo/superchargers....Chip? Thanks

[bosa]

Well I guess you can install CAI, SRI, exhaust, etc.

I can't really think right now. :banghead:

[lammer]

Originally posted by bosa
Well I guess you can install CAI, SRI, exhaust, etc.

I can't really think right now. :banghead:

what the hell is SRI?

[bosa]

Originally posted by lammer


what the hell is SRI?

Short Ram Intake. :)

[ryder_23]

He already has CAI sorry...he doesnt want exhaust right now...but anything else?

[Doodle]

Do headers count as exhaust?

[ryder_23]

Not really, what kind of power gains do u get if u have, headers, exhaust intake? should he get cams or something

[Weapon_R]

Man tell him its a waste of money. Either go big or go home

[ryder_23]

He doesnt want to turbo or super his car....so no other ideas then/

[Weapon_R]

Nothing that he will be happy with. The only thing he is going to notice is a lighter wallet...but then again, less weight=more speed.

Most of those mods mentioned above give little or no gains, but serve as a foundation for bigger mods.

[bosa]

Why don't you just get your friend to search this on the internet? :dunno:

[ryder_23]

Just trying to help him out and all

[bosa]

Well then, what does your friend want done to his car? :confused: Like what kind of modifactations did he have in mind? :dunno:

[ryder_23]

Like i said. He doesnt want a turbo/supercharger. He has a CAI right now. He said he doesnt feel like he wants an exhaust, but waht kinda gains would he look at with, intake, exhaust and headers? Would a chip do anything good? thanks

[bosa]

A chip can do a bit. I don't know how much though..

[ExtremeSi]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
The only thing he is going to notice is a lighter wallet...but then again, less weight=more speed.

Most of those mods mentioned above give little or no gains, but serve as a foundation for bigger mods.

:werd: :rofl: :rofl:

[Rsxstacy]

Prelude=go big or go home. They dont take that well to mods at all. With I/H/E you are looking at around 10hp to the wheels. Not really worth the price. Neither is supercharging the car. Tell him if he wants power it going to have to be TURBO

[ryder_23]

Thats what i keep telling him....

[buh_buh]

Bosa, you have no idea what your talking about. So why don't you just shut up. But it is true, its hard to make power on a Prelude unless you go FI. But if I were to stay with mild mods, I'd go with I/H/E, pulley, VAFC and cam gears. If you want to build it even further N/A you can get cams, resleeve the block and get high compression pistons.

[bksze]

for a guy wanting noticeable power gains and on a budget . . . there's only 1 thing

NITROUS

for the price of a good header, you can get a nitrous kit that will see way more power gains than any I/H/E setup

[ryder_23]

buh_buh

That was more into what my friend was looking for. Do you have any of those in your car? If so, how do they perform? What kinda power gains would he be looking at. THanks

[syeve]

VAFC are good times and they look cool

[Dragon X]

what year prelude?

5th gen ludes (97+) do great with the AEM CAI, headers do close to nothing, you might get something out of an exhaust. make sure that with any mod to a prelude (94+ i think) you must install (warranty void unless hidden) a switch for the ECU memory because the lude comes with OBD 2, which quickly makes all mods useless unless reset (by making this switch you will not allow the computer to "remember") or if you want you can pull the clock/radio fuse or battery every 200km to reset everything.

[5gluder]

You can get decent gains with a Mugen Header/Exhaust, I read with a CAI you can gain 12whp.

[buh_buh]

Originally posted by ryder_23
That was more into what my friend was looking for. Do you have any of those in your car? If so, how do they perform? What kinda power gains would he be looking at. THanks I don't have any of that stuff, because when your spending that much money, you could easily go FI for more power. But 5gluder and Dragon X are right. The AEM CAI has shown the best gains (as far as intakes go), and Mugen header and Mugen exhaust show significant gains. And the obdII workaround is almost a must (unless you want to reset your ECU once every couple of weeks).

[sml]

I'm backing up the claim of AEM CAI for performance gains, but AEM pulleys is a different matter... ECU workaround is debatable, but I still have it done just in case it makes a difference, not that I noticed besides pyschologically...

[bosa]

Originally posted by buh_buh
Bosa, you have no idea what your talking about. So why don't you just shut up.

Alright dude. I'll let you handle this one since you do know your shit about preludes.

But he said decent simple mods. He said that his friend wasn't looking for big mods like a turbo. But as most of you said, the only way to go with a prelude, is to go big or go home as seeing how you wont gain much horsepower with the simple mods that his friend is pretty much looking for.. Hope that made some sense. :)

[ryder_23]

Dumb question, but what u mean by ecu walkaround...like bypass it somehow. Sorry about this dumb question. I'm trying to research it now, but no luck...again sorry for this...but your answers have been great.

[5gluder]

With the ODBII system it basically detunes your mods after a couple hundered km or so by changing the air/fuel mixture, cam settings and a couple other things. With this "workaround" you basically disconnect the power to the computers memory with the flick of a switch, thus the computer won't be able to detune your mods. The only downside to this is that you have to chop up your stock wiring which can cause problems with your warranty.

[ryder_23]

Does it do this with intake? He has an intake in it right now, CAI, not sure what brand, works great...

[5gluder]

Yes, any aftermarket mod to the engine.

[ryder_23]

So u can just disconnect the battery or what? ecu fuse? thanks

[5gluder]

Yes, either way works, it's just a pain to do it every couple days.

[ryder_23]

k, thx.

[littledan]

let's say you put on a cai... how does the ecu know that you have installed this part and why does it detune the engine?? what info does it use to detune the engine???

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by littledan
how does the ecu know that you have installed this part sensors....like map and air temp


Originally posted by littledan
and why does it detune the engine?? to keep the engine running at factory specs.

[littledan]

to detune the engine does it simply retard the timing? similar to when low octane gas is used on a gsr etc?

[RCBVtec]

so is the ECU reset a proven fact? Reason I ask is that sml and 5g are not on the same page with that one. Does OBDI have the same issues as OBDII where it resets the mods??

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by RCBVtec
so is the ECU reset a proven fact? Reason I ask is that sml and 5g are not on the same page with that one. Does OBDI have the same issues as OBDII where it resets the mods?? obd1 is coo...just reset once right after u get the new mod so the ecu will "learn" to utilize it...well thats sort of an incorrect way of putting it...but yea

[5gluder]

Originally posted by RCBVtec
so is the ECU reset a proven fact? Reason I ask is that sml and 5g are not on the same page with that one. Does OBDI have the same issues as OBDII where it resets the mods??

I have heard on many occasions were people would dyno thier lude with mods and then do a second dyno run after they reset the ECU and gain hp.

Check this link give info on the ECU workaround

www.ntpog.org/mods/fifth-afc/ecu.shtml *fixed link*

[RCBVtec]

Good to know, one problem with the link - I am getting a page can not be found error...

[buh_buh]

just go on www.ntpog.org and find it on their DIY mod section.

[sml]

That's the exact same mod I did, but I'm only basing my opinion on my butt dyno, which can be quite inaccurate depending on what I eat for dinner... :rofl:

[5gluder]

James in Edmonton made a harness for the V-AFC controller, basically this harness eleminates the chopping of your stock harness. So if your worried about your warranty you could probably use this harness to do the "workaround" on.

[PreludeInBarrie]

Hey,
Preludes r the best imports in the whole world!

[RCBVtec]

Thanks for the links and info guys!!! Do you guys have this work around done on your cars? If so, who did you go through?

[5gluder]

I don't yet, just because i want to keep my warranty. But i'm hoping in a couple months or so i'll buy the new V-AFC controller and the wiring harness from James. I'll then do the workaround since i can splice into the V-AFC harness.

[ryder_23]

Wow. Just drove my friends 01 lude, with CAI, told him about the ecu thingy, we popped it out, i was first one to take her out...HOLY CRAP...that car is a dream. I was taking turns that i hafta push my gay sedan to its limits, while i coulda been eating and takin the corner like nothing....And it really pulls in second gear...wow, defintly gotta get one of those....

[Dragon X]

Originally posted by 5gluder
James in Edmonton made a harness for the V-AFC controller, basically this harness eleminates the chopping of your stock harness. So if your worried about your warranty you could probably use this harness to do the "workaround" on.

how much for harness?

[5gluder]

Originally posted by Dragon X


how much for harness?

I think it's around $200, you can talk to James(98luder) on this board. You can also goto his website:

www.Performance-evolution.com

[CanadaCivicSIR]

Best gains to do to a Lude, besides Turbo

AEM CAI
Exhaust
V-AFC
and Nitrous!!!!

Then hang on, on Friday at the track with those mods and a few others I ran a 14.19@103mph. (and that's with a SS tranny!!!)

[ryder_23]

whats a few others?

[spiceboy]

Originally posted by buh_buh
I don't have any of that stuff, because when your spending that much money, you could easily go FI for more power. But 5gluder and Dragon X are right. The AEM CAI has shown the best gains (as far as intakes go), and Mugen header and Mugen exhaust show significant gains. And the obdII workaround is almost a must (unless you want to reset your ECU once every couple of weeks).

Can you tell me more about this OBD2? What exactly it is and where and HOW MUCH I can get it done for? I have exhaust and CAI in my lude but always feels like it's lost all the torque .... wondering if the ECU is reset it'll be better ... Thanks

[RCBVtec]

I'll take a stab at this one... OBDII is the ECU in your lude all 96+ ludes have em, you don't want this ECU you want the OBDI ECU it doesn't detune your mods like the II... read back through this thread 5gluder mentioned James (98luder) has the harness for the "workaround"...

[buh_buh]

Well try resetting your ECU right now and see if it makes a difference. Then you can decide if you want to buy the obdII workaround or not.

[CanadaCivicSIR]

Originally posted by ryder_23
whats a few others?

Cam gears, pulleys and port and polished head.
MSD Ignition and Nology wires.