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88CRX
06-11-2003, 08:22 PM
should i just cut it out? cause i've been told that its toast and is destroying my performance.

Abom
06-11-2003, 09:58 PM
Since Alberta has no yearly inspections, and doesn't require cat convertors, I would remove it.

Daddymax
06-11-2003, 10:16 PM
I hear it sounds like poo without one. I always kept mine in. or got a high flow one.

Weapon_R
06-11-2003, 10:19 PM
You will not notice anything by cutting it out.

88CRX
06-11-2003, 10:27 PM
but i think mine may be clogged...... and i dont feel like getting it off and cleaning it.... if thats even how its done.

EstoMax
06-11-2003, 11:20 PM
would hate b drive behind u.. hate driving behind people with stinky exhausts

max

rice_eater
06-12-2003, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by Weapon_R
You will not notice anything by cutting it out.

have you done it? I have and you DO notice a gain...but i already had a catback and headers...


Originally posted by Lt. Max
would hate b drive behind u.. hate driving behind people with stinky exhausts

max

not that stinky but yes it smells a bit...sound wise it'll be loud that's a given...my exhaust sounded fine till i put the new cams in...now when the engine is cold it sounds like ass but once it's warm it's fine... I'd say do it, but some places wont do it for you however. It IS illegal but i asked and they told me it's not enforced in Alberta. If you are really paranoid about the cops just leave the headshields clamped on somehow...

sin
06-12-2003, 12:29 AM
i hear you gain a whopping 1-2 hp at max :thumbsup:

ryder_23
06-12-2003, 12:29 AM
yeah. I read somewhere too that removing a cat is illegal, and you can get a ticket. But its just like puttin on aftermarket muffler too, cops can give u a ticket, but rarely do.....harder to tell if cat is off then an aftermarket muffler...not sure gains...hear decent gains with a turbo car? not sur etho

2000impreza
06-12-2003, 12:41 AM
if the cat is clogged the cheapest solution is to take it out. downside would be increased noise and exhaust smells like crap.

littledan
06-12-2003, 12:56 AM
you should definitely not remove your cat! too much pollution. just get a high flow cat and slap that bitch in there.

GTS Jeff
06-12-2003, 01:35 AM
it sounds like ass when u remove the cat cuz the cat muffles a lot of the rice-tones.

Abom
06-12-2003, 03:52 PM
Originally posted by GTS Jeff
it sounds like ass when u remove the cat cuz the cat muffles a lot of the rice-tones.


Get a resonator. It won't sound like ass, I've had it done before. As for it being illegal, it's not. Alberta does not require the use of cat convertors. This is the reason we have no anual inspections, or emissions testing.

kevie88
06-12-2003, 03:56 PM
I have no cat, But I'm waiting to take care of some other priorities, then I'm buying a complete new cat and midpipe.

Ben
06-12-2003, 04:21 PM
I dont have a cat on my car, sounds great IMO.


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Weapon_R
06-12-2003, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by rice_eater


have you done it? I have and you DO notice a gain...but i already had a catback and headers...


First off, you don't have a honda. Secondly, the gains you experience will NOT be "noticed" unless you dyno the car. Only ricers are able to feel 2hp increases.

rice_eater
06-13-2003, 12:43 AM
again...have YOU done it or is this hearsay? As for calling me a ricer...bitch please...

4wheeldrift
06-13-2003, 06:44 AM
Originally posted by rice_eater
again...have YOU done it or is this hearsay? As for calling me a ricer...bitch please... The gain you noticed is from the catback and header, not removing the cat. The cat on most modern cars is hardly a restriction at all, and removing it only amounts to a horsepower or two at the wheels, at most.

B18C
06-13-2003, 08:01 AM
Originally posted by Abom



Get a resonator. It won't sound like ass, I've had it done before. As for it being illegal, it's not. Alberta does not require the use of cat convertors. This is the reason we have no anual inspections, or emissions testing.

If you are going to spend the cash to get a resonatory you might as well spend the extra couple bucks and get a high flow cat.

rice_eater
06-13-2003, 09:58 AM
Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
The gain you noticed is from the catback and header, not removing the cat. The cat on most modern cars is hardly a restriction at all, and removing it only amounts to a horsepower or two at the wheels, at most.

somewhat true...i got the cat taken out last and yes of course the gain i saw was probably mostly from the other mods running better. I agree that it only gives you one maybe two horse NOW! Maybe he/she will want to do other mods later considering he/she already did an engine swap so the gains will keep getting better. If the cat is wrecked the gain noticed will obviously be greater and the slight increase in milleage will be there too. Now when you way out the prices $75+GST for a Catco or $40 tops for them to cut it out and weld in a pipe the choice for me is clear. Now that's my opinion from what i saw on my car... let's not beat what i say to death and help this guy out with his question instead :)

5.9 R/T
06-13-2003, 10:54 AM
Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
The gain you noticed is from the catback and header, not removing the cat. The cat on most modern cars is hardly a restriction at all, and removing it only amounts to a horsepower or two at the wheels, at most.

cats do get plugged however, and you can see quite a large change in engine output by removing/replacing it on older cars.

JustinL
06-13-2003, 11:13 AM
I'd say yank it. If it's clogged it will rob performance, just be prepared for a more "tinny" exhaust note. My car has a straight through 2.5" exhaust with two mufflers and is very quiet until upper RPM range. With no cats and a leaky BOV I was getting Bangs out the exhaust on hot upshifts. This shouldn't be a problem with na cars though.

Justin

4wheeldrift
06-14-2003, 08:17 AM
Originally posted by 5.9 R/T


cats do get plugged however, and you can see quite a large change in engine output by removing/replacing it on older cars. That's a different situation from just cutting it off for the hell of it though. If your cat is plugged you are going to notice a huge decrease in performance.

88CRX
06-14-2003, 12:58 PM
and theres no way knowing other then riping it off..... right?

Slow5Oh
06-14-2003, 02:09 PM
My car came stock with 4 cats on my midpipe and I bought an o/r pipe now I have no cats :angel: , it sounds way better now.

GT2NV
06-15-2003, 06:55 PM
yeah kronyk on here took out his cat on his probe GT, hell of alot louder "supposed" to be a 5hp boost, but now his car is very loud and shoots flames

B18C
06-16-2003, 12:13 PM
Originally posted by rice_eater


..... Now when you way out the prices $75+GST for a Catco or $40 tops for them to cut it out and weld in a pipe the choice for me is clear. Now that's my opinion from what i saw on my car... let's not beat what i say to death and help this guy out with his question instead :)

Exactly. So help the environment for $40 bucks and get a cat.

Dirty_SOHC
06-16-2003, 12:18 PM
I like my test pipe=)

CRXguy
06-16-2003, 05:03 PM
Cat-less rules!!!! ;) :rofl:

kaput
06-16-2003, 10:57 PM
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88CRX
06-16-2003, 10:58 PM
i'm calling carline tomorow to make an appointment to get it cut out....... nuke the whales












by the way i was kidding.