964 versus Boxster

[Euro_Trash]

I was talking about this with the old lady over the weekend, and was just curious what everyone else thought: if you had around 30-35,000 to spend on a car, would you rather a Boxster or a 964 C2 or C4?
(I know people are going to say they wouldn't have either, they would take blah blah blah, but let's keep it between these 2)

[PINOY-X]

niether haha

but ummm the c4 is nice

[Hakkola]

964 for sure! Never really liked the boxters.

964 body style is actually my favourite, bad boys 1 911 turbo for the win. ;) The C4/C2 is pretty sweet, you can't go wrong with one of those. What year you looking at?

[Euro_Trash]

A 90, but I don't know if anyone has noticed but my list of possible next vehicles is as long as my arm (from S4 to Tacoma to about 20 others). I am researching every option before diving in, especially since something like the 964 would be an investment, as I don't believe the value of the car is going to depreicate too much more. I might just save up a bit more and get a 993 if I go this route, they are my favorite body style

[Hakkola]

Funny, 993 is what I meant by 911 from bad boys 1, 964 is sweet too though, I found a 964 listed as 1994 model though... 993 is my fave, but some of the 964's are almost as nice. If you can afford a 993 go for it, if I could it is what I would be driving.

[bmeier]

I love 964s but they are hard to find in good condition and the desirable years. you would want a 92 and up since the earlier models did not use a head gasket and tend to leak oil a lot... i would much rather have a c2 as well but thats just personal preference..

I like boxsters as well and the convertible makes it fun to whip around town in :)

it really depends on what kind of car you want though since both cars are very different. the boxster is a lot newer has a much more current interior design etc.

[Euro_Trash]

Thanks for that note about the head gasket, never knew that!

[bmeier]

ya i was actually planning on buying one a month ago but decided to hold off for now. if you are interested in them you should look in the states you can get a much better deal then you will here.

[C4S]

964 .. I like it a lots ..

and yeah .. for ~ $35K .. u can get a nice one .. and it is still a 911!

Boxster is a nice car, but just me .. never big fan for it .. and they are everywhere .. one block.. u can see 4 or 5 of them ..

However, when u are looking for a 964 .. make sure with all the service record .. and all the update have been done .. early model .. ( 89 - 90 ) seems to hv more issue ..

Stay away from those Import .. try to find a local Canadian model with records .. :)

92 and up are better choice .. but price will be close to $40K for a good one ..

If you can find a wide body one .. even better !!! but that will be close to $50K .. and a nice 964 Turbo is still running around $65K + for a nice local one .. :)

[Cody D]

I've always wanted a 911, I just couldn't spend the money on a Boxster when I could get an older 911 for the same price. To tell you the truth I'll be happy with any 911 from the mid 70's and up. But like a couple people have already said, the 993 is the best one ever.

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/6629/993sidewhollowspx7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Euro_Trash]

I have been looking at the trader, and have noticed you can get a 2002 Boxster S for around 50,000 or a 99 C2 for around 40-45,000... would anyone actually pick the Boxster over the Carrera? For insurance purposes or something? It's not like the mileage is crazily different, with the Boxster around 50k and the Carrera at 80k.

[Euro_Trash]

And no I am not saying I would go for a 996, although I heard they drive great, they are the one generation that I do not like all that much (mainly due to the headlights)

[C4S]

Those early 996 ( 99 or 2000 ) U saw in trader .. most of them are US models ..

Not all US models are bad .. but it is hard to find a good one from US ..

When they were new .. $75K US .. vs $120K cad ..

So .. finding a 7 yr old 996 for $35K us is not hard .. but they ususally high km ( say 60K mile = 100K km )

Early 3.4L air cool flat 6 engines from Porsche .. they do hv lots of issue as well .. and once it hits 50K mile area .. more and more problem as well .. ( kind of like early 964 ) It really depends on your luck .. and they are EXPENSIVE to fix ..

However, from 2002 and up, with the updated and more powerful 3.6L flat 6, they are much better, and bullet proof! :thumbsup: (better engine, diff gear box I think, improved suspension, turbo style headlight, wider fender, diff bumper, nicer interior.. basically, they are 996.5 )

One reason 993 is so highly rated, is they are very reliable, and still look nice! however, for driving, early 996 is nicer, faster, and more civilize then the 993 ..

Say $50K should get you a nice Canadian 99/00 996 or a 95/96 993.

:)

[Euro_Trash]

Which would be the 993 for me no questions asked :thumbsup: Thanks for the info!

[ICEBERG]

You guy's think this is a good price?

http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=27803928&pgno=2&srt=1

When i took the X3 in for service last week one of the sales guy's told me they will let this go for 60K.

[Euro_Trash]

Looks pretty good compared to others (example: http://www.canadatrader.com/result/detailinfo.aspx?ID=27098288&pgno=11&srt=4&mp=0)

[me&you]

Originally posted by Hakkola
Funny, 993 is what I meant by 911 from bad boys 1, 964 is sweet too though, I found a 964 listed as 1994 model though... 993 is my fave, but some of the 964's are almost as nice. If you can afford a 993 go for it, if I could it is what I would be driving.

Not to go off topic, but the 911 in BB is a '94 3.6 Turbo, not a 993.

[Cody D]

Originally posted by me&you
Not to go off topic, but the 911 in BB is a '94 3.6 Turbo, not a 993.

I was going to argue with you, but when I actually looked it up I found that you are right, it is a 964 based car. I always thought that any 911 from 93-98 was a 993.

[Hakkola]

So I was right in my first post. Super confusing, either way the car is AWESOME!

[A2VR6]

i'd definatly go for a 964 in your case... (or of course a 993). But really if it was me, i'd go for a 968... theres something about those cars... I just LOVE them! :drool:

[me&you]

Originally posted by A2VR6
i'd definatly go for a 964 in your case... (or of course a 993). But really if it was me, i'd go for a 968... theres something about those cars... I just LOVE them! :drool:

968s are crap.

[Euro_Trash]

I know a lot of people will disagree, but other then a Cayenne I don't think I would buy a front-engined porsche :dunno:

[hjr]

well if your looking for a more reliable car, i think the boxter is the way to go

[A2VR6]

Originally posted by me&you


968s are crap.

how so? They are very similar non-turbo 964 in performance (handling and acceleration). Hell some people even say the 968 is the better all rounder... I wont argue about the looks however (yes, the 964 looks better).

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by A2VR6


how so? They are very similar non-turbo 964 in performance (handling and acceleration). Hell some people even say the 968 is the better all rounder... I wont argue about the looks however (yes, the 964 looks better).

The 968 is one car that I personally think the cab looks better than the coupe

[me&you]

Originally posted by A2VR6


how so? They are very similar non-turbo 964 in performance (handling and acceleration). Hell some people even say the 968 is the better all rounder... I wont argue about the looks however (yes, the 964 looks better).

You know this because you've driven both, or it's what a magazine told you? I will admit, the 968 I drove was an auto, but the overall dynamics of the car can't hold a candle to ANY 911 or even the early Boxster. The Boxster might not be a drag racer, but it's a lot of fun. Still can't match the 964 though... that sound alone is worth the premium!

BTW Euro, I know of a couple Boxsters available right now, but no 964s I'd recommend, even to someone I hate. If you do find a 964, don't buy the bargain priced one and have it checked out, top to bottom, twice. Then check it again.

[A2VR6]

Originally posted by me&you


You know this because you've driven both, or it's what a magazine told you? I will admit, the 968 I drove was an auto, but the overall dynamics of the car can't hold a candle to ANY 911 or even the early Boxster. The Boxster might not be a drag racer, but it's a lot of fun. Still can't match the 964 though... that sound alone is worth the premium!

BTW Euro, I know of a couple Boxsters available right now, but no 964s I'd recommend, even to someone I hate. If you do find a 964, don't buy the bargain priced one and have it checked out, top to bottom, twice. Then check it again.

Driven a 944 and a 987 Boxster (non-S) and while the 987 was a bit better (hell it should be since it is about 20 years newer and it was a blast to drive) it wasnt a HUGE massive difference and i'd expect the 968 to be better than the 944. I'll admit i've never driven a 964/993 or any 911 in my life and yes, I looked at some old issues of motortrend/car and driver and yes they had very similar performance figures with the 964 being a tick faster.