Evo X - Orders

[Genjuro]

Platinum Mitsubishi is now taking orders for the 2008 Evo X.

couldnt find if this was a repost, so sorry if it is.

Thanks

[The Cosworth]

MSRP?

[Genjuro]

not sure. just saw it in the Sun pull out: Urban-e.

man... Evo X or GTR deposit?? (cant really compare actually)

[spyce]

Anyone know what the pricing will be on one of these?
Thinking of dropping a deposit down

[DepTrotter]

Originally posted by spyce
Anyone know what the pricing will be on one of these?
Thinking of dropping a deposit down

what a baller

[dino_martini]

Originally posted by spyce
Anyone know what the pricing will be on one of these?
Thinking of dropping a deposit down

It will probably be in the mid 50k range, like the STi is now.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by dino_martini


It will probably be in the mid 50k range, like the STi is now.

Given that EVO is always cheaper than STi in the states, I'm hoping for mid-high $40K range.

But they all seems to love to screw Canadian on prices.....

[Aleks]

Does anyone know if mistubishi honours their cross border warranty?

If $ hits 1:1 with the USD I might be tempted to head down and bring one back for under 40 grand CND :poosie:

[benyl]

Originally posted by Genjuro
Platinum Mitsubishi is now taking orders for the 2008 Evo X.

couldnt find if this was a repost, so sorry if it is.

Thanks

haha. You are a year too late.

They took my deposit over a year ago.

[Genjuro]

^ nice..

[Bling]

Here is a link to pictures of the BAD BOY. :drool:

http://www.leftlanenews.com/mitsubishi-lancer-evolution-x.html

[pinoyhero]

Pretty nice lookin but honestly I like the STi more.

[BigMass]

if the dollar gets to 1:1 and they're selling it for $50,000 while in the US it's $30,000, they can seriously go fuck themselves and any excuse about taxes they can think of.

[LUCKYSTRIKE]

So its that DSG type system or a 5 speed correct?

[rage2]

There will be a 5 speed manual, 6 speed manual, and 6 speed dual-clutch DSG style tranny.

benyl, if you don't want the car, I might be interested in taking it off your hands when the time comes ;). I'm a bit late to this deposit party... wasn't interested in the car until the dual clutch tranny announcement.

[JRSC00LUDE]

^

I follow you around the forum and post after you.......I'm your beyond stalker I guess.

Anyways, can you (or someone else) explain the "dual clutch DSG style tranny" thing to me? What's that all about?

[Aleks]

basic concept (VW ones anyways)

1 clutch for gears 1 3 5 and the other for 2 4 6. So your next gear is always "preselected".

[DepTrotter]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-clutch_gearbox



Mitsubishi has announced that the 2008 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution X will come with a dual clutch transmission controlled by magnesium paddle shifters (with a five-speed option as well).



controlled by paddle shifters?

now im confused, how will that work?


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-clutch-transmission.htm

[GTS Jeff]

Are these cars going to be produced in such small numbers that a deposit is necessary? And when is the expected release date?

[JRSC00LUDE]

^

Good link, thank you. That sounds awesome!!!!

[spyce]

Originally posted by DepTrotter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-clutch_gearbox





controlled by paddle shifters?

now im confused, how will that work?


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-clutch-transmission.htm

Like Aleks said theres one clutch for gears 1,3,5 and the other for 2,4,6. The difference here between a manual car is that theres seperate clutches without the clutch pedal. But you still tell the car when to shift with the paddle shifters. And its more efficient since the next gear is already preselected when you are shifting.

I dunno if that answers your question but.. :dunno:

[DepTrotter]

Originally posted by spyce


Like Aleks said theres one clutch for gears 1,3,5 and the other for 2,4,6. The difference here between a manual car is that theres seperate clutches without the clutch pedal. But you still tell the car when to shift with the paddle shifters. And its more efficient since the next gear is already preselected when you are shifting.

I dunno if that answers your question but.. :dunno:

yeah i kept reading both articles until it clicked in my head -

At first i thought there would be two seperate clutches, and i was thinking - how the hell is that going to be more efficient!?

But now i understand - looks pretty cool - ide like to try that

[rage2]

If you wanna try it out, go to a VW dealership and test drive a Jetta. Lots of them have DSG (VW/Audi's dual clutch setup). It's pretty pimp!

[Aleks]

Originally posted by rage2
If you wanna try it out, go to a VW dealership and test drive a Jetta. Lots of them have DSG (VW/Audi's dual clutch setup). It's pretty pimp!

I did that. Tried out the Gli with DSG. It's pretty cool. Don't know how often I'd use the paddles after the novelty wore off initially though.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Aleks


I did that. Tried out the Gli with DSG. It's pretty cool. Don't know how often I'd use the paddles after the novelty wore off initially though.

Is going faster a novelty? GTi's with DSG accelerate faster than 6-speed models because the DSG can shift faster than you can manually change gears. Mitsubishi claims theirs will be better than VW/Audi's so if they live up to it should be able to bump EVO's into some pretty fast company. Paddle shifters outsell 6-speeds 4-1 on Ferarri's so I don't think it's a fad.

The wife just bought a 2007 Outlander with paddle shifters (standard auto though not like the EVO or VW trannys) so I will have to wait another year or two before I get my EVO. My wife beat me to the paddle shifter thing while I'm stuck with a notchy Dodge transmission for city driving.:(

[Aleks]

Originally posted by heavyD


Is going faster a novelty? GTi's with DSG accelerate faster than 6-speed models because the DSG can shift faster than you can manually change gears. Mitsubishi claims theirs will be better than VW/Audi's so if they live up to it should be able to bump EVO's into some pretty fast company. Paddle shifters outsell 6-speeds 4-1 on Ferarri's so I don't think it's a fad.

The wife just bought a 2007 Outlander with paddle shifters (standard auto though not like the EVO or VW trannys) so I will have to wait another year or two before I get my EVO. My wife beat me to the paddle shifter thing while I'm stuck with a notchy Dodge transmission for city driving.:(

I never said the tranny would get boring. Just the paddle part. On my test drive it was fun using the paddles but after 10 minutes i just left it in sport shift mode where the computer did the shifting just the same way I would with the paddles... I personally liked that tranny way more than the manual Gli one.

[rage2]

Automatic mode for cruising, manual shift mode for sporty driving. Best of both worlds.

[riced]

I've gotta say that this is far better than the 2008 STi..
the new Sti looks almsot exactly like the Mazda 3


will the new X's have brembo's as an option?

[Aleks]

Originally posted by rage2
Automatic mode for cruising, manual shift mode for sporty driving. Best of both worlds.

Gli had D mode normal cruising, S mode for sport shift automatically and D+- for manual shifting. Something for everyone.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by rage2
Automatic mode for cruising, manual shift mode for sporty driving. Best of both worlds.

That's kind of my take on it also. I like having the control of a manual but sometimes when I'm stuck going slow in traffic (which is alot when you work in foothills industrial park and live in the far N.W.) an automatic would make life easier.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
Are these cars going to be produced in such small numbers that a deposit is necessary? And when is the expected release date?

They will probably be sold out for the 1st year as Mitsubishi can't even keep up to demand of the new Outlander. We bought a 2007 Outlander XLS in early April and still don't have it yet.:(

They advertise "20 available" but when you go to the lot, there are about 6 FWD models and one XLS test driver.:thumbsdow

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by pinoyhero
Pretty nice lookin but honestly I like the STi more.

the 2008 looks horrible compared to the X, Subaru's gone downhill on the design dept.. :rolleyes:

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/7/f/k/ny_08wrxsedan.jpg

well at least that front end..

[iceburns288]

^Yeah, the Evo X vs B205 (I think? I'm not a big Subie guy) was a lot tougher decision than Evo X vs... that thing.

It's a no brainer: I'd order an Evo X 11 times out of 10 if that was my alternative.:barf:

[tikboy 1209]

does anyone know what is the exact price on the car???

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by Aleks
Does anyone know if mistubishi honours their cross border warranty?

If $ hits 1:1 with the USD I might be tempted to head down and bring one back for under 40 grand CND :poosie:

If they don't honour the warranty, and you could get it for 40 000 CAD in the states, vs 50-55 000 CAD in Canada, would you not buy it in the states?

How much do you guys figure the warranty is worth?

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Hakkola
How much do you guys figure the warranty is worth? if anything motor or drivetrain related it will probably be worth 10-20k

[Audio_Rookie]

frick I dont think a warranty is all that valuable...I mean....if your gonna blow up your engine anyways....your doing something wrong....within a couple years anyways.

I would be going to the states for sure.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Audio_Rookie
frick I dont think a warranty is all that valuable...I mean....if your gonna blow up your engine anyways....your doing something wrong....within a couple years anyways.

I would be going to the states for sure.
e46 m3, nuff said.

[benyl]

You can always tow it back to the US to get warranty work done on it.

[BigMass]

The way the dollar is going and the rip-off Canadian pricing, a $20,000 savings wouldnt surprise me. $15,000 after taxes and fees.

[SilverRex]

does any one know if the DSG is more of an automatic then it is for manual shifting?

is it like the BMW SMG where you can have both as automatic as well as manual shift mode?

just wanted to know.

[spec c]

Originally posted by riced
I've gotta say that this is far better than the 2008 STi..
the new Sti looks almsot exactly like the Mazda 3


Subaru has not released anything on the new STi yet, nobody has any clue what it'll look like. Subaru did say that it will not look anything like the WRX or 2.5i in an attempt to stop "homemade STi's". Also, to give people a reason to pay the extra money for an STi, last gen was to easy to convert a WRX to an STi or equivalent. Esp. since the 6 speed tranny is cheaper and easier to buy now.

This is SUPPOSE TO BE the closest photoshop of what the new STi will look like. Subaru Japan called it their "officail prototype"

http://www.scoobyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CA330001-1-1.jpg

[benyl]

ummm. Looks like the WRX to me.

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9c4d6/cmd.233/enclosure..ee9c4d7

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9c4d9/cmd.233/enclosure..ee9c4da

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9c4dc/cmd.233/enclosure..ee9c4dd

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9c4df/cmd.233/enclosure..ee9c4e0

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9c4e2/cmd.233/enclosure..ee9c4e3

http://blogs.edmunds.com/.ee9c4e8/cmd.233/embedded..ee9c4eb

[rage2]

Originally posted by SilverRex
does any one know if the DSG is more of an automatic then it is for manual shifting?

is it like the BMW SMG where you can have both as automatic as well as manual shift mode?

just wanted to know.
I'll be posting a SMG vs DSG article soon. My brother in Chicago has a VW GTI DSG, and we swapped cars a few times to check each one out, so i know both really well hehe.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by spec c


Subaru has not released anything on the new STi yet, nobody has any clue what it'll look like. Subaru did say that it will not look anything like the WRX or 2.5i in an attempt to stop "homemade STi's". Also, to give people a reason to pay the extra money for an STi, last gen was to easy to convert a WRX to an STi or equivalent. Esp. since the 6 speed tranny is cheaper and easier to buy now.

This is SUPPOSE TO BE the closest photoshop of what the new STi will look like. Subaru Japan called it their "officail prototype"

http://www.scoobyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CA330001-1-1.jpg


uhhhh......

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/180025/first-drive-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx/

There's no way STi will look that much different stock. Your info is way old or you're really optimistic.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by spec c


Subaru has not released anything on the new STi yet, nobody has any clue what it'll look like. Subaru did say that it will not look anything like the WRX or 2.5i in an attempt to stop "homemade STi's". Also, to give people a reason to pay the extra money for an STi, last gen was to easy to convert a WRX to an STi or equivalent. Esp. since the 6 speed tranny is cheaper and easier to buy now.

This is SUPPOSE TO BE the closest photoshop of what the new STi will look like. Subaru Japan called it their "officail prototype"

http://www.scoobyblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/07/CA330001-1-1.jpg

Dude that is the current WRX. The Alfa Romeo nose will not be on the 2008 models.

[spec c]

Originally posted by benyl
ummm. Looks like the WRX to me.


I seen those pics along time ago, they're what started these photoshops...

http://www.scoobyblog.com/uploads/2007/04/038.jpg

http://www.scoobyblog.com/uploads/2007/04/047.jpg

new WRX (real)

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2008/subaru.impreza.wrx/subaru.impreza.wrx.act.corner.500.jpg

http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/roadtests/firstdrive/2008/subaru.impreza.wrx/subaru.impreza.wrx.act.prf.1.500.jpg


As you can see from looking at the pics you've posted, we now know that most of what i said is true. The new STi has: wider front fenders, rear quater panels,wider front and rear bumpers, diffrent engine (turbo'd flat four, but not the same as the WRX) and TOTALLY new exhaust system. So since parts will no longer fit all models like in prev. gens, we know that part is true. They stopped homemade STi's.


Originally posted by Xtrema
[B]


uhhhh......

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/180025/first-drive-2008-subaru-impreza-wrx/

There's no way STi will look that much different stock. Your info is way old or you're really optimistic.

That is the new WRX and 2.5i, not the new STi.


Originally posted by heavyD


Dude that is the current WRX. The Alfa Romeo nose will not be on the 2008 models.

The picture i posted is not or anything close to what the 06-07 models look like. The diffrences are: the front fenders and rear quater panels, side skirts, rear tail lights, spoiler, wheels, front head lights, bumpers and mirrors. I know what they look like. i own some.

When i said...

"This is SUPPOSE TO BE the closest photoshop of what the new STi will look like. Subaru Japan called it their "officail prototype"

I was mocking them, hence the capital letters on 'SUPOSE TO BE' AND THE " " ON "OFFICAIL PROTOTYPE". I thought most people would know this since the picture in the post i made is of a (EDIT) sedan and Subaru already annouced that the STi will not be available in a (edit) sedan like the WRX is, hatch only.

[iceburns288]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKuV3HLtX10

Finally! Real information. At 2:28 they say it has 276hp and 420N-m.

[FiveFreshFish]

Is this interior lighting in the production version?

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/46-2008-mitsubishi-prototype-x.jpg

[CKY]

Originally posted by FiveFreshFish
Is this interior lighting in the production version?

http://images.leftlanenews.com/content/46-2008-mitsubishi-prototype-x.jpg

No and neither are the suede insert seats nor the LED headlights

[heavyD]

I promised my wife I would lay off the cars and put our money into home renovations, etc..........................I'm secretly saving.:devil:

[The Cosworth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKuV3HLtX10

all your questions will be answered, especially if you can speak Japanese
;)

:burnout: :burnout:
:burnout: :burnout:

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by iceburns288
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKuV3HLtX10
Finally! Real information. At 2:28 they say it has 276hp and 420N-m.

Originally posted by brendankharris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKuV3HLtX10
all your questions will be answered, especially if you can speak Japanese
;)
:burnout: :burnout:
:burnout: :burnout:
You don't say?;)

[benyl]

Originally posted by iceburns288
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKuV3HLtX10

Finally! Real information. At 2:28 they say it has 276hp and 420N-m.

276? weaksauce.

[katana9x4]

Originally posted by benyl


276? weaksauce.


:werd:

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by benyl


276? weaksauce. Yeah I hope that's just the shitty JDM spec numbers...

[heavyD]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
Yeah I hope that's just the shitty JDM spec numbers...

Everyone knows by now that 276 hp is the old Japanese handshake agreement number that nobody abides by anymore. They won't release actual numbers until closer to release which will be in the area of 300 hp.

[benyl]

300hp is still weaksauce.

300awhp... now we are talking.

The Evo and STi should be in a HP war like all the cars... IMO. haha

[SilverRex]

anyone backing out of their evox deposit let me know :)

[heavyD]

Anyone know how many trims Canada will get? We always seem to get less options than the US.:(

[benyl]

I am patiently waiting for information. The dealers obviously know nothing as I haven't gotten a call since I placed my deposit.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by benyl
I am patiently waiting for information. The dealers obviously know nothing as I haven't gotten a call since I placed my deposit.

I want the DSG (or whatever Mitsu calls theirs) and I want the touchscreen nav system that you can get in the Outlanders so hopefully all options will be available to Canada. I may wait for a 2009 though just because the car is so complex that I'm sure there will be some issues to iron out. This car won't be like the WRX which is essentially the same powertrain & drivetrain on a slightly re-sized chassis. The EVO is pretty well all new.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by heavyD


I want the DSG (or whatever Mitsu calls theirs) and I want the touchscreen nav system that you can get in the Outlanders so hopefully all options will be available to Canada. I may wait for a 2009 though just because the car is so complex that I'm sure there will be some issues to iron out. This car won't be like the WRX which is essentially the same powertrain & drivetrain on a slightly re-sized chassis. The EVO is pretty well all new.

Any chance they'll keep the same powertrain warranty on the EVO? My guts tell me no.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by heavyD
Anyone know how many trims Canada will get? We always seem to get less options than the US.:(

my lancer has the options for heated mirrors and heated seats and a few other things (cant remember them all) that the us doesnt

but we DONT get leather and navi, so I would think it would be different, not less of a car


Originally posted by Xtrema
Any chance they'll keep the same powertrain warranty on the EVO? My guts tell me no.

IIRC the Exo 8 MRd2djkahfah something had an extra 155hp and had a 2 year warranty, but the stock evos had full warranty.

Europe anyways

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Xtrema


Any chance they'll keep the same powertrain warranty on the EVO? My guts tell me no.

If I was in charge of Mitsubishi and read all the Turbo & SCC magazines full of 400 - 1000 hp modded EVO's I would consider applying the 5/10 year warrantee to be bad business. Hopefully they don't think like me. LOL.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by heavyD


If I was in charge of Mitsubishi and read all the Turbo & SCC magazines full of 400 - 1000 hp modded EVO's I would consider applying the 5/10 year warrantee to be bad business. Hopefully they don't think like me. LOL.

it would be the same as a GTi/2.0T audi/jetta I would think

the warranty would cover it as long as it was stock, I don't know of ANY warranty that covers a car that has aftermarket turbo upgrades

[Genjuro]

i heard they killed off the 4g63 in this new evo... is that true?
also heard they are using a variant of the pt cruiser engine...
:confused: :confused:

[benyl]

Originally posted by Genjuro
they are using a variant of the pt cruiser engine...
:confused: :confused:

which is a variant of a Hyundai Engine!

Scared now?

[Genjuro]

so its true??? i need sources.

[benyl]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mitsubishi_GEMA_engines

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Engine_Manufacturing_Alliance

[Genjuro]

LOL thx and gg. not getting an evo now.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Genjuro
LOL thx and gg. not getting an evo now. LOL good. Less fanboys is always a good thing.

BTW, did you know the KA is a truck engine and the SR20 powers the Sentra? :nut:

[4wheeldrift]

They could pick a lot worse motor than PT Cruiser Turbo/SRT-4 motors. The things are built like a brick shithouse.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Genjuro
LOL thx and gg. not getting an evo now.

Judging by the car you drive I doubt that you could afford one. Ha Ha!

The block design is the same but Mitsibishi manufactures their blocks for themselves and uses their own head design with MIVEC. The 4G63 was/is one of the greatest 4-cylinder engines ever but it's cast iron block design is old school (it's almost 20 years old for crying out loud) and all great engines eventually get put to pasture much like the B series Honda engines. I have faith that the new engine will be an improvement much like the K-series have been for Honda.

[treg50]

Originally posted by 4wheeldrift
They could pick a lot worse motor than PT Cruiser Turbo/SRT-4 motors. The things are built like a brick shithouse.

The new Evo motor is going to be like a 'brick shithouse'? Is that a good thing?

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by treg50
The new Evo motor is going to be like a 'brick shithouse'? Is that a good thing?
Yes.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by Genjuro
i heard they killed off the 4g63 in this new evo... is that true?
also heard they are using a variant of the pt cruiser engine...
:confused: :confused:

Yes and it is only based on the block, nothing else is taken from the PT's

The new one is the 4B11