If you had 50 - 70k

[JohnnySand]

Which car would you buy if you were going to spend up to 70K(New off the lot)?? The only constraint.... -> needs to be a 2-door coupe. :bigpimp:

I was thinking of BMW 335i coupe, G35 or Audi A5.

So far im feeling the Beem.

[DNSDJS]

exo-x:bigpimp:

:burnout: :burnout:
:burnout: :burnout:

lancers are damn FINE!

[spyce]

Id probably pick up a 335i.
Really sexy car plus you gotta love the fact that its got decent potential too (vishnu) :D

[aypi]

Originally posted by DNSDJS
exo-x:bigpimp:

:burnout: :burnout:
:burnout: :burnout:

lancers are damn FINE!

exo-x coupe???? :banghead:

:guns:

[KRyn]

+1 BMW 335

[DNSDJS]

Originally posted by aypi


exo-x coupe???? :banghead:

:guns:


hahaha.. my bad forgot that he wanted 2 door.. LOL
hahah
:confused: :dunno: :rofl:

[street]

i dont know what one i would get:dunno: :dunno:

but if i could get any car it would be a lotus elise
plus i would still have 20k left over

[adidas]

335i is too sexy!

I would def get one if i had the funds!

[teggypimp95]

You get way more stuff with audi then you do beemer. To be honest i liked bmw and worked there for quite a while, and i would take an audi over one any day. If you dont mind trying 4 door i would say audi s4. v8 engine those things are awesome. My dad has one but just a a4 with the 2.0 T and its nicer than any bmw (m3,z4,z8) that i have ever driven. WAAYY more fun and the interiors are perfect. So the s4 would be my first choice for sure.

[Super_Geo]

^ How much would an RS4 run you? Probably not on hell of a lot more than $70,000 eh?

[teggypimp95]

Rs4 are just under 100Grand. s4 i believe are around 70

[JRSC00LUDE]

Isn't a Cayman right around 70? If so, that would be my pick hands down!

If not, lotus.

EDIT - Here's the cayman info.!

Price Range (base MSRP): $69,600
Body Type: 2-door coupe
Layout: mid-engine, RWD
Engine: 245-hp, 201 lb-ft of torque, 2.7L, 24-valve, DOHC H-6
Transmission: 5-spd manual (optional 5-spd auto with manual mode)
Acceleration (0 - 100 km/h): 6.1 seconds
Top Speed: 257 km/h (160 mph)

That would be good enough for me but I'd rather have the S version!

[teggypimp95]

Cayman as in a new porshe? ALOT more than 70 dude. Correct me if im wrong?

[three.eighteen.]

a4s are not coupes unless you get a vert? a5?

[teggypimp95]

I know there not coupe but they handle ands feel like one. The hanging magnetic suspension is awesome. It handels ans drives if as good or not better than any coupe if driven.

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
Cayman as in a new porshe? ALOT more than 70 dude. Correct me if im wrong?

Base Cayman is like 75 plus taxes, blah blah blah

[teggypimp95]

Oh ok cheaper than i thought. I would still take an s4 over a caymon though. ALOT more car for your buck.

[JRSC00LUDE]

^

Ya it's just that it's the only new porsche I'll likely be able to afford in the next 5-8 years and I've always wanted one!

And I don't like and couldn't bring myself to buy a boxter.

[teggypimp95]

Oh ya there still pimp as hell.

[bspot]

Lotus Exige!!!!

[C4S]

If 70K for new car .. then 335i coupe is the way to go .. ( app. $65K + taxes etc .. )

Elise is not a bad choice too .. but it is still a weekend car ..

A base barebone Boxster is ok too ..

If for slightly used .. then a 02-03 996 coupe!! :thumbsup:

Not much choice for 2 door coupe here ..

:dunno:

[BigMass]

go to the US, buy a new Z06 and have cash left over

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE



And I don't like and couldn't bring myself to buy a boxter.

Yesterday I was in front of a brand new Boxster, they sure improved the front on those things now! (I still agree with you though, although I have entertained the idea of an S)

EDIT: And +1 for an S4!!

[KRyn]

Wait for the special eidition boxster?

[Weapon_R]

The Boxster is still on the porsche website, looks like it shares the same components as the cayman but is a conv

[teggypimp95]

Ya a cayman is pretty much a suped up boxter with a hard top.

[nj2Type-S]

i'd get an '07 civic si and use the rest as a down for the house... :( hahah...

335i for sure! :thumbsup:

[GC84ever]

Why not a slightly used 2004/05 (E90 i think) BMW M3

[Speed_69]

WERD! I'd rather use that amount of money for a downpayment on a house or use it towards payment of your mortgage. If you already have a house and no mortgage..335i would be my choice too :thumbsup:

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
Ya a cayman is pretty much a suped up boxter with a hard top.

Are you sure it is "suped up"? I am pretty sure they use the same motor and everything. They are both stated at 245 HP, same 2.7 rear-mounted engine... pretty sure the only difference is a few cosmetic things and the convertible top

[teggypimp95]

Nah on top gear they did a flow chart and allt he numbers were in the exact middle of the 911 and the boxter. So is inbetween them. Thats why they were calling it the cockster lol. you tube it

[Darkane]

Originally posted by BigMass
go to the US, buy a new Z06 and have cash left over

Best answer yet. Shit the new base vette starting at 44,900USD now has 438HP. It'll spank anything and with some bolt ons and tuning.. 400+whp is no problem.

[teggypimp95]

I could never bring myself to own a vette. NEVER. I have driven a z06.

[Euro_Trash]

What numbers though? I could see weight being different, changing the 0-60, braking, handling, etc. But horsepower and torque are rated the same on the Porsche website

[JohnnySand]

Originally posted by Speed_69
WERD! I'd rather use that amount of money for a downpayment on a house or use it towards payment of your mortgage. If you already have a house and no mortgage..335i would be my choice too :thumbsup:

I wish it was for me! Im helping out an old fart that I work with pick out a new car.

[R!zz0]

I'd prolly go down to the states and pick me up a nice 2006 M3 or maybe look around for a 2006 M5 for $70,000 :bigpimp:

[teggypimp95]

Originally posted by Euro_Trash
What numbers though? I could see weight being different, changing the 0-60, braking, handling, etc. But horsepower and torque are rated the same on the Porsche website


Watch this one. I could be wrong but if i remember right the cayman is in the middel of the 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgW4UPlCHd4

[Darkane]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
I could never bring myself to own a vette. NEVER. I have driven a z06.

You have not driven a new Z06. The all aluminum big block is a marvel of a motor, not to mention its almost perfect weight disturbution even with the big block.

So tell me, why wouldn't you own a vette? Oh no.. is it because you don't like the finish in the interior? yes lets buy a car to do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds to give a shit about what material the interior is made out of. The z06 is true enthusiats automobile at an affordable price. Bottom line.

[rc2002]

+1 for the Z06. Best bang for your buck hands down. Supercar performance for a fraction of supercar pricing.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by Darkane


You have not driven a new Z06. The all aluminum big block is a marvel of a motor, not to mention its almost perfect weight disturbution even with the big block.

So tell me, why wouldn't you own a vette? Oh no.. is it because you don't like the finish in the interior? yes lets buy a car to do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds to give a shit about what material the interior is made out of. The z06 is true enthusiats automobile at an affordable price. Bottom line.


actually, that didn't cross my mind but yes for the first time since the 60's I love the new vette. I don't think there is a single thing wrong with the new Z06. Abosolutely gorgeous and fast as you'd ever really need.

Z06 :thumbsup:

[A2VR6]

+1 for the Z06 as well... hell, i'd even take the regular C6 Vette.

[gpomp]

z06 is over the price range. msrp is 70k USD.

[alloroc]

That's a good choice but the mrsp is like 79l cdn.

I think the Elise is in the right price range though.

[JGerke]

i'd say skip the vette and go for the BMW...ya the vette may be fast but you'll hate dealing with the badly build and cheap feeling interior the 95% of the time your not needing the extra horsepower...plus the vette is a lot more blue collar of a car. lot more prestige with the BMW. Personally I would go for the elise. pretty sure they can take a vette on the track if they can keep up with a viper..

[Ekliptix]

FD-LS7 with:
AFR heads
Cam
headers
Volks
Upgraded suspension
Big brakes

9 second street car that looks amazing and handles too. I'd have money left over too.

[Ekliptix]

Originally posted by JGerke
i'd say skip the vette and go for the BMW...ya the vette may be fast but you'll hate dealing with the badly build and cheap feeling interior the 95% of the time your not needing the extra horsepower...plus the vette is a lot more blue collar of a car. lot more prestige with the BMW. Personally I would go for the elise. pretty sure they can take a vette on the track if they can keep up with a viper..
Plus the elise gets much better fuel economy, and torque is stupid anyway...

The BMW is nice but needs about 150 more hp.

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE



actually, that didn't cross my mind but yes for the first time since the 60's I love the new vette.

Exactly my thoughts... especially now with the fixed headlights, it is a beautiful car.

[JGerke]

I think it really depends what you are looking for...want class? buy the BMW...want flickable track performance...elise..want to be a fast redneck? corvette. Its always some tradeoff...the vette has a crappy interior, the BMW lacks power(comparably) and the lotus would be a bad daily driver.

[Euro_Trash]

I haven't sat in a Z06 yet, but is the interior actually crappy? Or is it just not as luxurious as say an Audi or Porsche?

[Ekliptix]

It's a lot better then the C5 models, but def not up to European standards.

Top Gear loved the C6, and they hate american cars
http://www.weblogsinc.com/common/images/3353683258292348.JPG

[teggypimp95]

I never doubted they were fast, of corse they were fast. But i have never been a vette fan. And the interiors are better this year but like stated above, not up to european standards. I also like to drive the car when i know it comes from a good make, and chevy just doesent cut it for me. Some people like vettes some people dont.

[C4S]

Vette is a good choice too ..

Z06 is nice .. but they are way over $70K .. even from US .. loaded one is $80K US .. ~ $100K after all ..

Even a regular Vette is nice, and brand new one, are always on sale for ~ $60K + tax .. (from $75K+tax.... )

:eek:

[teggypimp95]

I couldnt imagine paying 100k for a vette when you could get an audi RS4 for that. You get soo much more with the Audi and they are also as fast as hell not to mention extremly good handeling.

[QuasarCav]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
I never doubted they were fast, of corse they were fast. But i have never been a vette fan. And the interiors are better this year but like stated above, not up to european standards. I also like to drive the car when i know it comes from a good make, and chevy just doesent cut it for me. Some people like vettes some people dont.


You seemed to be quite impressed with your Mexican made Golf.

[teggypimp95]

It was a gti. I did love it. And Golfs are made in mexico, GTI are made in Germany. Just to clear that up.....

[Euro_Trash]

The Z06 is an entirely different car than an RS4 though: it is much more aggressive, built for the track (not a daily driver like the RS4), and just a rougher experience all around, so you can't really compare the 2 (IMO)

For the record, I would pick the RS4 over a Z06 though, the RS4 is in my top 5 all time cars

[teggypimp95]

Originally posted by Euro_Trash
The Z06 is an entirely different car than an RS4 though: it is much more aggressive, built for the track (not a daily driver like the RS4), and just a rougher experience all around, so you can't really compare the 2 (IMO)
I guess thats a good point. I just like how the rs4 can do both. PLus awd.

[BoS_DC2]

I would get the cleanest/stock 2001 ITR and basically use the rest of the money to mod it up OR pick up an NSX and do the same :poosie:

[JGerke]

Originally posted by BoS_DC2
I would get the cleanest/stock 2001 ITR and basically use the rest of the money to mod it up OR pick up an NSX and do the same :poosie:


And that's what you call a money pit...I still can't comprehend how people can but a car with the expectation of spending more money on it than they bought it for...especially something that is FWD. About the RS4..those cars are super pimp and sound amazing! I agree the vette would be fun but obviously not for you or me....back to the topic, from the cars you originally posted, get the BMW. cuz if we're gonna get outa your parameters we might as well tell you go to buy a Zonda!

[Darkane]

Originally posted by C4S
Vette is a good choice too ..

Z06 is nice .. but they are way over $70K .. even from US .. loaded one is $80K US .. ~ $100K after all ..

Even a regular Vette is nice, and brand new one, are always on sale for ~ $60K + tax .. (from $75K+tax.... )

:eek:

http://www.chevrolet.com/corvette/

They bumped the Z06 price to 70G USD now. Seemed they were selling good at 65k. The new c6 with 438hp is still 44,995USD. Take a look.

EDIT: The '08 model will be 438hp. Wait a couple months :)

[Euro_Trash]

I guess I never answered the original question. I would choose the A5 for a few reasons:
1. I think that the looks of the new BMW's are nothing near as nice as the E46 coupe's, so that it out. I hear the engine is great, but the looks don't do it for me
2. I have yet to see an A5 in town yet. The number of G35's in town are staggering, and there are getting to be quite a few 335's too.

[RC-Cola]

The A5's aren't out yet so we won't see them until late August/September. I imagine there is a waiting list as well.

One thing that everyone seems to be forgetting is this a daily driver or a weekend fun car. Let's face it a Porsche, Corvette or Audi RS4 are not daily drivers, especially in the winter. The RS4 you might get away with it, but I'm thinking that much Hp and Torque is impractical on scary icy roads.

For a daily driver coupe, I would consider 1) Audi A5 or S5 (if budget fits) 2) G35 3) maybe BMW 335I.

I know there are a lot of BMW fan boys on this site, but they are WAY too common in Calgary. Don't get me wrong, they are a great car, I just don't want every third car I pass in my area being the same brand I drive. The G35 is in the same vote, a great car but 1) they are fairly common and 2) until you get to the M6 package you can't get a manual.

[R!zz0]

Originally posted by Darkane

EDIT: The '08 model will be 438hp. Wait a couple months :)

LS3?

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by RC-Cola
The A5's aren't out yet so we won't see them until late August/September. I imagine there is a waiting list as well.



Well that explains why I haven't seen any! :angel:

[Darkane]

Originally posted by R!zz0


LS3?

You bet :thumbsup:

Chevrolet LS3 Engine

According to Chevrolet, the latest iteration of the storied small-block family features a revised, larger-bore cylinder block (103.25mm [4.06-inch] vs. the previous 6.0-litre's 101.62mm [4.00-inch] bores that increases the capacity from 6.0- to 6.2-litre litres. Other changes include new high-flow, LS7/L92-style cylinder heads; larger-diameter pistons; revised camshaft and camshaft timing; revised valvetrain with offset intake rocker arms; high-flow intake manifold; and high-flow fuel injectors from the Z06's LS7 engine.

In addition to its larger bores, explains Chevrolet, which help create a 376 cubic-inch displacement, the block casting also features revisions and machining in the bulkheads that enhance its strength and improved bay to bay breathing. But while the bore of the 6.2-litre engine is increased when compared with the previous 6.0-litre engine, the engine’s stroke remains at 92mm (3.62 inches). The pistons for the larger LS3 engine also are new and are designed for its high-rpm performance capability.

Breathing for the new 6.2-litre LS3 engine is accomplished via new, high-flow cylinder heads. They’re based on the large port/large valve design found on the LS7 engine and other GM L92 engines, with larger-capacity, straighter intake ports. The design optimises intake flow to the combustion chamber and the exhaust ports are also designed for better flow.

Complementing the larger-port design of the heads are commensurately sized valves. The intake valve size alone increases from 50.8mm (2.00 inches) to 55mm (2.16 inches) – an increase of nearly 9 percent. The intake valves feature lightweight hollow stems, which enable the engine's 6600rpm capability. The exhaust valves are large too, measuring 40.4mm (1.60 inches) in diametre.

To accommodate the engine's large valves and enable more direct intake port flow, the intake-side rocker arms are offset 6mm between the valve tip and the push rod. Actuating the valves is a new camshaft, with intake-side lobes providing more than a 5% in increase in lift, from 13.25mm to 14mm (0.521-inch to 0.551-inch). Exhaust-valve lift remains unchanged from the LS2 though the camshaft timing was revised to optimise performance with the higher-lift intake cam profile.

Ensuring the cylinder heads receive all the air they can handle, a new acoustically tuned intake manifold has been added. The composite design is manufactured with a 'lost core' process that improves runner to runner variation and reduces airflow losses. An acoustic foam material is used to reduce radiated engine noise; it is sandwiched between the outer top of the manifold and an additional "skull cap" acoustic shell. Also new beauty covers atop the engine shield the rocker covers and also feature a noise-reducing, acoustically tuned insert to provide a more refined engine sound.

There is also a new Exhaust system that is optional on 2008 Coupe and Convertible Corvette models. It has two-modes of operation and is similar in design and function to the system used on the Z06. It uses vacuum-actuated outlet valves that control engine noise during low-load operation, but will open for maximum performance during high-load operation. In essence, when you're just cruising slowly the car makes less power and is quieter, but when you floor the gas pedal, the car will become louder and more powerful. Chevrolet says the system is not identical to the Z06 system because the standard 2008 Corvette uses a 2.5-inch-diametre exhaust, while the Z06 uses a larger three-inch system.

Peak power for the new 2008 Corvette C6 is 321kW (430hp) rising to 325kW (436hp) when the exhaust system opens up, and Chevrolet says this system gives the Corvette a more aggressive exhaust sound that will appeal to performance enthusiasts.

The shifting efforts for both the 6-speed manual transmission and paddle-shift 6-speed automatic transmissions have been improved for the 2008 Corvette models. The manual transmission shifting improvements include a more positive and direct feel during gear changes, with better gate-to-gate location, while the 6-speed paddle-shift automatic transmission is improved with new hardware and new controller calibration that deliver quicker shifts.

Also new for 2008 models is the availability of the 2.73 performance rear axle ratio with the automatic transmission (which is included with the Z51 package).

Taken From http://www.webwombat.com.au/motoring/news_reports/2008-corvette-c6-coupe.htm

EDIT: Automatic will do 0-60 in 4.3seconds lol. 45k USD :)

[Ekliptix]

Originally posted by C4S
Vette is a good choice too ..

Z06 is nice .. but they are way over $70K .. even from US .. loaded one is $80K US .. ~ $100K after all ..

Even a regular Vette is nice, and brand new one, are always on sale for ~ $60K + tax .. (from $75K+tax.... )

:eek:
There are lots of low low mile C6 Z06's in the US for $65-75k.

[gpomp]

OP wants a NEW car between 50 and 70.

[Ekliptix]

New off the lot it to baller for me.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Ekliptix
New off the lot it to baller for me.
:english: :english: :english:

[Sharpie]

My uncle just picked up a corvette yesterday and paid like $68gs and some change. The car is beautiful, although it isn't a zo6 it still pulls like a dream and I must admit the interiors are 100x better then what they used to be...

[90_Shelby]

Originally posted by Darkane


You have not driven a new Z06. The all aluminum big block is a marvel of a motor, not to mention its almost perfect weight disturbution even with the big block.

So tell me, why wouldn't you own a vette? Oh no.. is it because you don't like the finish in the interior? yes lets buy a car to do 0-60 in 3.5 seconds to give a shit about what material the interior is made out of. The z06 is true enthusiats automobile at an affordable price. Bottom line.


It's not a big block. It's a small block.

The LS7 retains the same architecture as all of the LSX engines all the way down to the 4.8 in some of the older trucks.

[Darkane]

Originally posted by 90_Shelby



It's not a big block. It's a small block.

The LS7 retains the same architecture as all of the LSX engines all the way down to the 4.8 in some of the older trucks.

LOL!! you're absolutly right. Damnit All I looked at was the 4.125Bore and thought it was the same as the 427BB. I was wrong on both accounts. The 427 is 4.25bore. Thanks for that :thumbsup:

[whiskas]

The choice is simple. What has 3750HP and costs $70,000?


25 neons

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by whiskas
The choice is simple. What has 3750HP and costs $70,000?


25 neons

bahahahaha
but go with a used m5 or a zo6 he will not be disappointed with the zo6

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by whiskas
The choice is simple. What has 3750HP and costs $70,000?


25 neons

:rofl: :rofl: Thread over.

[Barlow]

2008 Infinti G37

330 horse power 300 lbs ft torque

50 000 price tag....

[4doorj]

i would get a s2000

[SilverRex]

Has anyone mention the new Infiniti G37 coupe? I guess its one of those you either love it or hate it.

actually, just wait till the Nissan GTR arrives, even if it cost 20k more, it would worth every penny imo:thumbsup:

[toomuchb00st]

i had a 07 C6 for a weekend and wow is that ever a vehicle to be driving. thats the most fun ive had in a car ever.

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by SilverRex
Has anyone mention the new Infiniti G37 coupe? I guess its one of those you either love it or hate it.

actually, just wait till the Nissan GTR arrives, even if it cost 20k more, it would worth every penny imo:thumbsup:


Originally posted by Barlow
2008 Infinti G37

330 horse power 300 lbs ft torque

50 000 price tag....

[FiveFreshFish]

Originally posted by JohnnySand


I wish it was for me! Im helping out an old fart that I work with pick out a new car.

Sign him up on beyond and let him tell us what he's looking for.

[Euro_Trash]

What about a new M coupe?

[TNation]

M coupe's look bad imo

G37 coupe will be the sex
but an M5 would be a great choice

[SilverRex]

Originally posted by Barlow
2008 Infinti G37

330 horse power 300 lbs ft torque

50 000 price tag....

yo, isnt the new G37 has 270 lb torque, unchange from the previous model, though somehow it was faster

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by Euro_Trash
What about a new M coupe?

x2

75 K though.

[Euro_Trash]

Originally posted by TNation
M coupe's look bad imo



You sir are crazy, they look bad ass. Plus quicker than a Cayman, but slightly more expensive

EDIT: And I think they have a pretty decent warranty with them as well. Resale value is probably pretty close to a Cayman

[Euro_Trash]

Just did some reading and it looks like you can get a used Atom for around 70-75,000 US... I know he wanted new but an Atom would be pretty freakin sweet

[ScottysZ]

Originally posted by JGerke
i'd say skip the vette and go for the BMW...ya the vette may be fast but you'll hate dealing with the badly build and cheap feeling interior the 95% of the time your not needing the extra horsepower...plus the vette is a lot more blue collar of a car. lot more prestige with the BMW. Personally I would go for the elise. pretty sure they can take a vette on the track if they can keep up with a viper..

Spoken just like someones who has never been in one. The interior quality of the new C6 vette is worlds apart from even the C5, but admittedly not quite up to european standards. And about not needing the extra power??? Nobody needs much more than about 150hp, yet most people have more. If youre spending 50-70k on a car its not about getting what you "need". Having spent a decent amount of time in both a C6 Z06 and a 335i, I can tell you that the vette gets 10x the looks that the bimmer does. Not knocking the beemer, but its just a lot more... bland (if bland can be used to describe a 300hp TT machine.

O, and the only track that an elise could take a z06 on would be a kiddy sized go-kart track.

[Orbie]

Originally posted by SilverRex


yo, isnt the new G37 has 270 lb torque, unchange from the previous model, though somehow it was faster

G37 is at 270, but the most torque on the previous model was 268 (auto). A difference of 2 is minimal, but you have to look at the powerband and how much the car puts to the ground. The torque curve is much broader/flatter on the G37 compared to the G35 due to the VVEL system, not to mention it's putting more torque to the wheels. But the HP boost (~50 more whp) is the main reason why that car is faster.

http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/0705_c+2007_vs_2008_infiniti_g35_g37+torque.jpg

Back to the original post, if cost is not a priority then I would take the 335i. Hard to tell because we don't know the priorities of the person buying, but 335 has a great combo of class, power and utility. Agree with ScottysZ though, it's too 'bland' for me in the looks and interior department.

[JordanLotoski]

i bought the 335i....and love every second iam in that car!!