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cyra1ax
01-18-2016, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by Cos
Well this is interesting.





http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/science/science-news/12093545/Return-of-incandescent-light-bulbs-as-MIT-makes-them-more-efficient-than-LEDs.html

Read about that too...immediately thought of the technology used in HIR headlight bulbs.

b_t
01-19-2016, 04:07 PM
anybody know where the best place for LED vanity bulbs is? Found em at Canadian Tire but they were 45 watt replacements instead of 25. The room is already bright w/25s with 45s it'd be nuts. They were also $20/bulb which would be $300 total, seems crazy

16hypen3sp
01-23-2016, 10:20 AM
Wasn't there a person on this forum that could hook another person up with LED bulbs for low cost? Maybe I'm mixing forums up but I thought someone said that on here.

I just bought two LED bulbs from C Tire. They are the 60w replacements and they use 9 watts. Warm white, 3000k. Same look as the normal incandescent bulbs. They are awesome!

Am I stuck buying these at a high price though?

speedog
02-01-2016, 12:21 AM
For those that care, 60W equivalents (8.5W LED A19's) at Superstore - 6 in a box for $23.98. Have some in our home and the light they produce is indistinguishable from incandescents. Noticed this weekend that Superstore has all of a sudden greatly increased their LED lamp offerings but I still think Home Depot has them beat on overall pricing and variety.

jwslam
02-01-2016, 12:17 PM
Originally posted by eblend
If anyone is looking for some GU10 light bulbs for pot lights, I picked up 14 bulbs from Dollarama completely by accident just last week. Installed them and they look great. Went from using 600W in my basement, to 72!

http://www.eblend.ca/photos/i-b83sDzn/0/XL/i-b83sDzn-XL.jpg
RFD effect is stronk. Could not find at Creekside, Beddington, nor Deerfoot.

There's some Phillips Chandelier ones at Creekside. IIRC there were these ones for $3

https://s7d2.scene7.com/is/image/homedepotcanada/p_1000796540.jpg

Projek01
02-01-2016, 12:33 PM
I was trying to find the chandelier ones yesterday!! I need 6 and only found 2 at the 32nd NE location. However, I saw quite a few of the GU10 bulbs there. How many chandelier ones did you see?

rage2
02-01-2016, 12:33 PM
I went from not changing a lightbulb in 4 years to replacing 2 in the basement a couple weeks ago. When I had the basement done 18 months ago, I had the lighting guy put in pot lights throughout the build. The guy was super technical (aka anal) and I asked him to put in LEDs but he refused, as the light pattern doesn't look great for the layout. He also claims that low voltage bulbs will last as long as LEDs. Well, it doesn't. $600 later, replaced the entire basement with MR16 Philips Bright Whites. Cleared out all of the North end Home Depots.

The lighting pattern is definitely different, the shadows are harsher, but hey, I don't have to change bulbs again! :rofl:

Glad I decided on dimmables through the house when I first started the conversion. Starting to install dimmers + lighting automation through the house now and they all work really well.

jwslam
02-01-2016, 12:34 PM
Originally posted by Projek01
I was trying to find the chandelier ones yesterday!! I need 6 and only found 2 at the 32nd NE location. However, I saw quite a few of the GU11 bulbs there. How many chandelier ones did you see?
Would guess there were around 10 but my memory is pretty fuzzy having been to 4 dollarama's in 24 hours.

bspot
02-01-2016, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by rage2
I went from not changing a lightbulb in 4 years to replacing 2 in the basement a couple weeks ago. When I had the basement done 18 months ago, I had the lighting guy put in pot lights throughout the build. The guy was super technical (aka anal) and I asked him to put in LEDs but he refused, as the light pattern doesn't look great for the layout. He also claims that low voltage bulbs will last as long as LEDs. Well, it doesn't. $600 later, replaced the entire basement with MR16 Philips Bright Whites. Cleared out all of the North end Home Depots.

The lighting pattern is definitely different, the shadows are harsher, but hey, I don't have to change bulbs again! :rofl:

Glad I decided on dimmables through the house when I first started the conversion. Starting to install dimmers + lighting automation through the house now and they all work really well.

How are the Philips MR16? I just grabbed some Par20s and found the Feit bulbs had a much more uniform beam compared to the Phillips. The "warm white" is still much cooler than incandescent, especially when dimmed as the color temp stays the same. Shadows are crazy, I figure I'll get used to it though, as it's not worse, just different.

I got some Feit LED edisons too. The good part, they are way, way brighter, so usable for work surfaces, but you need a dimmer to calm them down otherwise. Light is a bit more orange than brown, but again, I'll see if I get used to it. Aesthetically they look really good.

rage2
02-01-2016, 04:38 PM
Love the Philips in Bright white. The MR16's look good, beam pattern isn't a huge issue as my pot lights are all pretty close to one another, but yea, it's amazing how much more shadows are cast using these lights. I went with the 50W equivalent, and the basement is way brighter than before now.

Not a huge deal, I find not having the proper color temps more annoying than shadows, and Philips bright whites seems to be as close to perfect as I can find for the color temp I'm after in various bulb formats and it's consistent across the board. Also weird that all their normal bulbs are soft white (2700k) only, no bright white versions.

schocker
02-01-2016, 05:46 PM
How many lumens are the bright white? Are you doing room coordinating with the soft white for sleepy rooms?

jwslam
02-02-2016, 08:46 AM
Originally posted by schocker
How many lumens are the bright white? Are you doing room coordinating with the soft white for sleepy rooms?
Lumens are dependent on wattage, not color temperature.

Bedroom lights are all sub 3000 here.

speedog
02-02-2016, 09:51 AM
Lumens are not solely based upon wattage nor are they solely based upon colour temperature, the type of LED's used probably has more to do with lumens and colour temperature than anything else.

Below are two pictures I took of 60W equivalents we have in our home, the GE LED Bright Stik on the left in both pictures is 10W, 760 lumens, 150 mA, 2850K temperature while the Superstore LED No Name on the right is 8.5W, 800 lumens, 120 mA, 2700K temperature. The second picture shows both lamps in the same setting and in the same position, left and right and it is quite obvious even on my potato pic that the GE one is a whiter light which is based upon colour temperature, what is disproved here is that lumens are tied to wattage as per what is actually stamped on the base of these two lamps - lumens is brightness, not colour, and wattage is strictly power consumption. A 60W equivalent LED bulb can certainly have higher power consumption while providing less lumens - different components will see to that and not necessarily poor design.

Note that I do like both of these bulbs in the right places, in our home the Superstore No Name ones are bring placed in most bedroom and living room fixtures while the GE Bright Stik is being placed in the garage, furnace/laundry room and other places that a whiter light is appreciated. What is nice is where we used to have 100W incandescents, were now getting away with 60W LED equivalents because colour temperature is something we can select - a 100W incandescent is generally around 2870K or so. The 100W incandescent puts out a lot more lumens but I think to most, the colour temperature is probably more of a factor in a residential setting as opposed to brightness (lumens).

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/5oyoa2n1uon8nhz/20160202_080907.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/57qnqoz9r5b3ldg/20160202_081035.jpg

schocker
02-02-2016, 09:52 AM
Originally posted by jwslam

Lumens are dependent on wattage, not color temperature.

Bedroom lights are all sub 3000 here.
I meant color, I wasn't all there :rofl:

rage2
02-02-2016, 12:01 PM
Ahh. My guess on the Philips Bright whites is around 3000K. I mentioned earlier that color temp isn't the same for different brands of 3000K bulbs, here's a list that I've tried from warmest to coolest, and what I estimate the color temp to be irrespective of what's advertised. Philips Bright White, across different bulb types, are very consistent, so I'll use that as the 3000K baseline.

Cree Soft White - 2600K
Philips Soft White - 2700K
Philips Bright White - 3000K
Feit - 3200K
Cree Daylight - 5000K

Are there any cheap color meters that can measure color temp easily?

jwslam
02-02-2016, 01:20 PM
Originally posted by rage2
Are there any cheap color meters that can measure color temp easily?
https://itunes.apple.com/ca/app/lightspectrum-pro/id468368751?mt=8

rage2
02-02-2016, 02:18 PM
Yea, it doesn't work. Already tried that last year because of this thread haha.

bspot
02-02-2016, 03:15 PM
Anyone find good optoins for a warmish Par20 (warmer than the Feit 3000k) and a very warm A19 with low light output (for living room lamp accent lighting)?

rage2
02-02-2016, 03:26 PM
Originally posted by bspot
Anyone find good optoins for a warmish Par20 (warmer than the Feit 3000k) and a very warm A19 with low light output (for living room lamp accent lighting)?
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-8w--50w-par20-bright-white-3000k---2-pack.1000657670.html

Try it, don't like it, return it. I've used this extensively throughout the house to the point where I've replaced fixtures to use PAR20 bulbs so I can use this.

BigDL
02-02-2016, 04:49 PM
I am sad that they got rid of the bright white in other bulb types, it is my favorite color.

bspot
02-02-2016, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by rage2

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-8w--50w-par20-bright-white-3000k---2-pack.1000657670.html

Try it, don't like it, return it. I've used this extensively throughout the house to the point where I've replaced fixtures to use PAR20 bulbs so I can use this.

Have you tried these for comparison?

On paper, 2700k sounds more appealing to me, but as you stated earlier these values are never that accurate.

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-5w-par20-soft-white-3pk.1000791471.html

Strider
02-02-2016, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by bspot
Have you tried these for comparison?

On paper, 2700k sounds more appealing to me, but as you stated earlier these values are never that accurate.

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-5w-par20-soft-white-3pk.1000791471.html

I've bought a pack of these (https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-5w--50w-par20-soft-white-2700k----6-pack.1000802558.html) which appear to be the same bulbs. They're a bit warmer than I like (noticeable difference compared to the Costco Luminus 3000k PAR20s) and I'll probably switch to the 3000k bulbs that rage2 linked -- might be what you're after though.

bspot
02-02-2016, 05:10 PM
Originally posted by Strider


I've bought a pack of these (https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-5w--50w-par20-soft-white-2700k----6-pack.1000802558.html) which appear to be the same bulbs. They're a bit warmer than I like (noticeable difference compared to the Costco Luminus 3000k PAR20s) and I'll probably switch to the 3000k bulbs that rage2 linked -- might be what you're after though.

How did they compare to a halogen Par20?

I'm lame and old school. I just want everything to look like halogen/incandescent lol.

BensonTT
02-02-2016, 05:22 PM
Originally posted by bspot


Have you tried these for comparison?

On paper, 2700k sounds more appealing to me, but as you stated earlier these values are never that accurate.

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-5w-par20-soft-white-3pk.1000791471.html

They look like piss yellow.. better to get 5000k and up..

bspot
02-02-2016, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by BensonTT


They look like piss yellow.. better to get 5000k and up..

I really don't dig the "operating room" look.

BensonTT
02-02-2016, 05:30 PM
Originally posted by bspot


I really don't dig the "operating room" look.

If you like the candle light look then buy it haha

bspot
02-02-2016, 05:43 PM
Originally posted by BensonTT


If you like the candle light look then buy it haha

If only my house was plumbed for gas lanterns....

Probably cheaper than LED's to operate these days anyway ;)

Strider
02-03-2016, 09:36 AM
Originally posted by bspot
How did they compare to a halogen Par20?

I'm lame and old school. I just want everything to look like halogen/incandescent lol.

They were a touch cooler than the halogens I replaced, but probably imperceptible if you're not looking at them side by side.

rage2
02-03-2016, 09:52 AM
If you're looking to replicate halogen/incandescent, 2700k is what you're after. I would say the Cree's are the closest to replicating that look, but their failure rate is/was kinda high. The Philips soft white is slightly cooler than the Cree's.

riced
02-04-2016, 02:58 PM
Bunch of LED light bulbs on sale at Reno Depot again - I saw some 5000k for $5.XX and a bunch others that are 2700k sub $8.00/bulb.

Makes me want to go out and buy a bunch of the 5000k ones to see how they look...

Xtrema
02-04-2016, 03:40 PM
Originally posted by rage2
If you're looking to replicate halogen/incandescent, 2700k is what you're after. I would say the Cree's are the closest to replicating that look, but their failure rate is/was kinda high. The Philips soft white is slightly cooler than the Cree's.

Most of my bulb's are Cree's since a) they are cheap and b) 10 year warranty.

Have not call one in yet with my oldest bulb being 3 year old.

Love their 2700K bulb.

suntan
02-04-2016, 03:43 PM
The 4-flow ones have incredible light dispersion.

BensonTT
02-04-2016, 03:54 PM
If you guys go to Dollarama, they are selling the GE 3000k LED bulbs for $3..

speedog
02-04-2016, 04:37 PM
Originally posted by BensonTT
If you guys go to Dollarama, they are selling the GE 3000k LED bulbs for $3..
A19's? A21's? PAR30's?

What kind?

Honestly, I'm not being an ass but if people know what's there and not there, it could save them a wasted trip.

Here's a reference...

http://www.except.nl/consult/artificial-lighting-guide/bulb-shapes-and-sizes%20-%20Copy.png

BensonTT
02-04-2016, 05:01 PM
^ a19

speedog
02-04-2016, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by BensonTT
^ a19
$3, better than the Superstore 6 for $23.98 box ($4 each)

jwslam
02-05-2016, 09:04 AM
Also available for those who want not-so-bright

http://www.rona.ca/en/product/P15735003?ronaStore=62870

codetrap
02-05-2016, 03:25 PM
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jwslam
02-25-2016, 11:42 AM
Anyone need a pair of E14 whites? I ordered the wrong size :cry:

Resembles this:
http://www.internationalleds.co.uk/en/img/large/S7052_LAMP.jpg

GQBalla
02-25-2016, 02:06 PM
A19 from super store was 2.92 a bulb all in on the weekend.

SHould have posted in this thread when i bought a bunch

House is now upgraded to 2700 k bulbs, noticeable brightness difference color is the same as Incandescent IMO

bspot
02-29-2016, 12:02 PM
I grabbed the 2700k warm white Philips PAR20s and they are a dead match for the old halogens, and much softer shadows.

I moved the Feit 3000k PAR20s to the kitchen, and they make great prep/work area lights. Except the super crisp shadows still throw me off for some reason.

macman64
03-01-2016, 07:57 PM
I have ordered TCP LED10R20D30K bulbs. R20 so less of a spot but way more output at 675 Lumens. This is the highest output 20 size bulb I could find. I was also trying to avoid PAR20 because of the crisp edges.

We will see how they turn out when they arrive.

speedog
03-08-2016, 03:14 PM
Better stock up, a special seen at the Thorncliff Safeway about a week ago and you still have time to take advantage of this pricing (while quantities last probably)...

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/zy3jza8iy2ajjkr/20160228_141611.jpg

It is a GE though, maybe that's the reason for the premium price? At 570 lumens, it's going to be quite a dull 60W replacement (2700K color).

Better yet, same exact bulb is $16.96 at Walmart in Canada but even at that it is ridiculously expensive.

jwslam
03-09-2016, 08:40 AM
^

Guys that's a great deal!
https://www.amazon.ca/GE-Lighting-equivalent-570-Lumen-Dimmable/dp/B018HEG1Q2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1457534369&sr=8-2&keywords=ge+reveal+LED

$77.84 on amazon :rofl:

LilDrunkenSmurf
03-09-2016, 08:54 AM
Is there any reason to buy that over the $8.99 60W from ikea? or the $10.99 60W from Rona?

http://www.rona.ca/en/10w-led-bulb-15735009

rage2
03-09-2016, 09:00 AM
Originally posted by LilDrunkenSmurf
Is there any reason to buy that over the $8.99 60W from ikea? or the $10.99 60W from Rona?
Sure, if you're trying to nail a Safeway cashier.

speedog
03-09-2016, 09:08 AM
Originally posted by LilDrunkenSmurf
Is there any reason to buy that over the $8.99 60W from ikea? or the $10.99 60W from Rona?

http://www.rona.ca/en/10w-led-bulb-15735009
Better yet, the $25 6-pack of 60W equivalents at Superstore.

Amazingly enough, there's probably people buying these sale priced LED's at Safeway and bragging how they're converting to LED and saving tons of money.

ExtraSlow
03-09-2016, 09:16 AM
Originally posted by rage2

Sure, if you're trying to nail a Safeway cashier. Jesus, I must be going to the wrong Safeway!

LilDrunkenSmurf
03-09-2016, 09:19 AM
All my outdoor lights are dim incandescent A19/E27 bulbs. Eventually want to replace at least the backyard with a floodlight, but in the meantime, can I get away with a 60/75/100W LED, or will the weather outdoors destroy them? (They're in fixtures)

Something like this:
https://www.amazon.ca/Lighting-Incandescent-Equivalent-1050Lm-Daylight/dp/B016Y42RV0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1457536567&sr=8-3&keywords=a19+LED

Mibz
03-09-2016, 09:48 AM
I'd be more worried about people stealing them than the weather ruining them. Just ask kenny.

Mitsu3000gt
03-09-2016, 10:33 AM
Originally posted by jwslam
^

Guys that's a great deal!
https://www.amazon.ca/GE-Lighting-equivalent-570-Lumen-Dimmable/dp/B018HEG1Q2/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1457534369&sr=8-2&keywords=ge+reveal+LED

$77.84 on amazon :rofl:

That link is to a USA supplier, which is why the price is ridiculous. If amazon.ca doesn't have what you want, it shows you offers from stores in the USA that ship to Canada, and bundles the conversion & fees into the price.

schocker
04-11-2016, 04:03 PM
Homedepot has 4 Packs of Phillips A19 60w equivalent 8w iirc light bulbs for $15.88 They are the following style:

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImages/400/f8/f8161864-692f-48db-ac29-1bdc585062e5_400.jpg
Soft white or daylight. 3yr warranty.

I bought a few boxes to try out and they seem a-ok. Better than the slimstyle ones I already bought.
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/value-centre/weekly-flyer.html

Minimalist
05-04-2016, 10:41 AM
I would appreciate some lighting advice, switching part of the house over to LED. What to use in the four cases below and where to buy? Thanks guys!

Kitchen: three pot lights, what can replace the current 160-watt flood light units? They have massive lumens from what I recall. Now using LED under all the kitchen cabinets and it is better overall.

Outside Front door: one pot light, currently using a 160-watt flood light.

Inside front door entrance and stairway: currently using two old school 60 watt bulbs in both ceiling fixtures.

Garage door opener: has a 40-watt old school bulb. Would like more lumens as the garage is dimly lit when pulling in at night.

suntan
05-04-2016, 10:45 AM
Are you a lizard? 160 watt bulbs in the fixtures? Wut?

Get 100 watt rough usage bulbs for the garage door opener. Do not use LEDs in those.

Minimalist
05-04-2016, 10:46 AM
Originally posted by suntan
Are you a lizard? 160 watt bulbs in the fixtures? Wut?

Get 100 watt rough usage bulbs for the garage door opener. Do not use LEDs in those.

I know, I like a bright kitchen. It does get warm in there and no doubt drives up my electrical bill.

rage2
05-04-2016, 11:00 AM
I switched my kitchen fixtures to MR20 narrow floods, 3 in each fixture. Gives off the same amount of light as a single fixture with a high wattage bulb, and I have the ability to aim each bulb for the desired lighting effect. Not cheap going this route but it looks way better being able to control direction of the lights without blinding anyone in the kitchen. I have most of them pointed at my white cabinets with diffuses the light nicely.

I did the same thing in the garage, but pointed at the cars for a showroom look. As for the opener, people say not to use LEDs due to vibration, but I've had no problems with them. If anything, the vibrations killed incandescent bulbs much quicker. Try a couple of different bulbs to figure out what works in the garage opener enclosure, as they all have bulb placement and the plastic light diffusing cover slightly different depending on model.

goldfish168
07-14-2016, 10:51 AM
Costco now has an 8 pack of Luminus A19 LED bulbs for $17.99. 9.5W producing 800 lumens with a color temp of 3000K, non-dimmable.

Similar looking to these:
http://www.costco.ca/Luminus%C2%AE-A19-OMNI-9-W-800-Lumens-2700-K-Dimmable-LED-%E2%80%93-3-Pack.product.100229455.html

Works out to only $2.25/bulb. Finally an affordable LED bulb at the color temp I like!

phreezee
07-14-2016, 02:44 PM
I'm 100% LED thanks to Costco!
:thumbsup:

rage2
12-27-2016, 02:22 PM
Philips FINALLY released their bright white aka 3000K 60W dimmable bulb in Canada. Cheap too!

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-60w-a19-bright-white-3000k.1000859212.html

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-60w-a19-bright-white-3000k---3-pack.1000859211.html

$6.97 each or $18.97 in a 3 pack. I changed tons of fixtures in the house just to get this color using spotlights earlier in the year. There's a couple where I couldn't change the fixture, finally able to dial out the excessive warmth using these guys. :thumbsup:

Kjonus
12-28-2016, 07:06 PM
Looking for painted cap led light bulbs anyone seem them around

TYMSMNY
12-28-2016, 09:34 PM
Originally posted by Kjonus
Looking for painted cap led light bulbs anyone seem them around

as in silver-ish ? You can lightly spray it with a spray paint.

rage2
12-28-2016, 10:17 PM
Are you talking about something like this?

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-60w-a19-green-non-dimmable.1001010089.html

They had 6 or 7 different colors at Home Depot when I was there.

schocker
12-30-2016, 03:03 PM
Saw these bulbs at home depot
https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-60w-a19-sceneswitch-colour-2200k-2700k-5000k.1001015361.html
Not dimable but have three different colors, 5000k, 2700k and 2200k. You just flip it off and on to switch modes and it stays on the last mode when turned on. $13 and 9.5 w.

Kjonus
12-30-2016, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by rage2
Are you talking about something like this?

https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.led-60w-a19-green-non-dimmable.1001010089.html

They had 6 or 7 different colors at Home Depot when I was there.

Nope something like this but in an LED

Link (www.amazon.com/Bulbrite-60A19HM-Half-Chrome-Shape/dp/B000GWKJZ8)

VWEvo
12-31-2016, 09:03 AM
Originally posted by rage2
I switched my kitchen fixtures to MR20 narrow floods, 3 in each fixture. Gives off the same amount of light as a single fixture with a high wattage bulb, and I have the ability to aim each bulb for the desired lighting effect. Not cheap going this route but it looks way better being able to control direction of the lights without blinding anyone in the kitchen. I have most of them pointed at my white cabinets with diffuses the light nicely.

I did the same thing in the garage, but pointed at the cars for a showroom look. As for the opener, people say not to use LEDs due to vibration, but I've had no problems with them. If anything, the vibrations killed incandescent bulbs much quicker. Try a couple of different bulbs to figure out what works in the garage opener enclosure, as they all have bulb placement and the plastic light diffusing cover slightly different depending on model.

Which brand of LED did you use? I'm curious to switch my kitchen and main floor pot lights over. I was going to go to Costco today to pick up 30 par 20 led floods, but do appreciate your suggestion if you think there are better options.

J-hop
12-31-2016, 09:40 AM
Originally posted by rage2


As for the opener, people say not to use LEDs due to vibration, but I've had no problems with them. If anything, the vibrations killed incandescent bulbs much quicker. Try a couple of different bulbs to figure out what works in the garage opener enclosure, as they all have bulb placement and the plastic light diffusing cover slightly different depending on model.

Funny, I switched to a LED in the opener because vibration problems kept killing the incandescent light bulbs really fast on my opener. LED has already paid for itself by outlasting the incandescent ones by more than 3x.

Maxt
12-31-2016, 09:43 AM
Every time I've gone to the wholesalers to buy Led bulbs, they've given me free sample bulbs. My whole house is now LED, I think I've spent 25 buck total on conversion.
Makes up for the exterior LED fixture I picked up and later got billed $300 for.
Our upstairs bathroom had a fixture that took 8 25 watt bulbs, after swapping to LED, its brighter, but also a lot colder in the winter months.

rage2
12-31-2016, 01:03 PM
Originally posted by VWEvo
Which brand of LED did you use? I'm curious to switch my kitchen and main floor pot lights over. I was going to go to Costco today to pick up 30 par 20 led floods, but do appreciate your suggestion if you think there are better options.
I started the conversion pretty early on, so I've tried all the brands. Pretty much all of them had a small # of failures, Feit had the worst track record at around 40% failures since the start of the thread, and Philips with 0. Well 1 failed when it was dropped from the roof during renovations but that doesn't really count. Philips bulbs are by far the most reliable LED bulbs out there where I'd say have an actual chance of lasting the 20 year life that they promise.

When Philips started offering more and more of their bright white color temps, that was close enough to my ideal color temp in my more active rooms, plus the light distribution is the closest to typical incandescent bulbs, and as such I've switched almost every bulb in the house to Philips. There are 2 rooms that still warrant a slightly cooler color than the bright whites, where I'm using the remaining of my Feits.

So for reliability sake, Philips is the clear winner, but I would really experiment with their different color temps they offer because that is probably the most important choice when choosing bulbs to get each room in the proper "mood" for the activity. Philips offers depending on bulb time Vintage (2200k), soft white (2700k), bright white (3000k) and daylight (5000k) color temps. Buy a bunch to test, figure out what works, return the ones you don't like.

If you're super anal with color temp, Philips also makes Hue which has bulbs that can be set to any color, and cheaper Hue whites that can be set to any color temperature. The problem with Hue is that it requires always on power, so you're removing traditional switches, wiring them together and replacing it with Hue switches which talks to the hub. It's a stupid setup but we have 1 room (kids) that way because they like playing with room colors.

Philips also makes bulbs where you can choose between 3 color temps but those are a waste of money since each room really just needs 1 optimal color temp, so better off just choosing the right temp for the room.

heavyD
12-31-2016, 01:17 PM
Any local places where you can get garage door opener compatible LED bulbs?

VWEvo
12-31-2016, 02:44 PM
Where is the best place to buy Phillips?

rage2
12-31-2016, 02:54 PM
Originally posted by VWEvo
Where is the best place to buy Phillips?
Home Depot.

Matty_10
01-01-2017, 01:47 PM
Crapppy Tire had a sale for $1 each with the SaskPower rebate for their noma A19 led bulbs. Did the whole house in them.
http://i.imgur.com/Wad3eB7.jpg

Had some extras so did some ghetto pie tin keyless lamp holders in the garage until I replaced them with these
http://i.imgur.com/17VBogK.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/laDwlIX.jpg

ipeefreely
01-01-2017, 05:01 PM
Originally posted by heavyD
Any local places where you can get garage door opener compatible LED bulbs?
I use a Phillips in mine and it works fine! :thumbsup:

Changed all my 100w bulbs to 8w Phillips LED Daylight inside/outside of the garage. :nut:

J-hop
01-01-2017, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by heavyD
Any local places where you can get garage door opener compatible LED bulbs?

My feit one has been doing fine for about 6 months now

darthVWader
02-28-2017, 05:12 PM
The NDP just rolled this out

https://www.efficiencyalberta.ca/

Boat
02-28-2017, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by darthVWader
The NDP just rolled this out

https://www.efficiencyalberta.ca/



You’ll save money and conserve energy—immediately. And the products are yours to keep at no charge!
What kinds of products are included?
LED lightbulbs
LED nightlights
Faucet aerators
Low-flow showerheads
Advanced power strips for audio-visual equipment
Smart thermostats
Click here for program details

When will the program launch?
Installations will begin in early April 2017, but you can sign up now to be among the first people in your area to get energy-efficient products at no charge.



thats pretty sweet. Thanks for sending. I signed up.

Zero102
03-01-2017, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by J-hop


My feit one has been doing fine for about 6 months now

I hate the Feit bulbs - I changed out about 60 in my house. In the past 14 months I have had over 30 fail. All of them buzz and they seem to be very vulnerable to power dips as they frequently blink off while my other bulbs don't even seem to notice.

Philips all the way, 4-pack at Home Depot for $7.97 right now. I have some of them that are 3 years old and have had zero failures so far. They don't flash off when the power dips and they don't buzz (or if they do they're quiet enough I don't hear them)

Tik-Tok
03-28-2017, 05:15 PM
Has anyone tried out the LED T8 fluorescent tube replacements? I see Home Despot has Phillips, and Costco has Luminus.

They also have Daylight and Cool White... I wonder which would be better for retrofitting my garage.

redmethods
03-28-2017, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok
Has anyone tried out the LED T8 fluorescent tube replacements? I see Home Despot has Phillips, and Costco has Luminus.

They also have Daylight and Cool White... I wonder which would be better for retrofitting my garage.

They have almost the same Lumens & life span. Not worth the money for me.

HiSpec
03-28-2017, 11:58 PM
Originally posted by redmethods


They have almost the same Lumens & life span. Not worth the money for me.

Good thing I saw this. I was going to change the flourscent tubes in my garage to LED over summer. Not gonna happen if it's same lumens and life span.

speedog
03-29-2017, 06:21 AM
Originally posted by HiSpec


Good thing I saw this. I was going to change the flourscent tubes in my garage to LED over summer. Not gonna happen if it's same lumens and life span.

Biggest difference is price though, the LED T8's at Home Depot were at $12 while the fluorescent T8's were at either $16 or $17. So initial cost savings plus continued cost savings should make LED T8's a no brainer.

Tik-Tok
03-29-2017, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by speedog


Biggest difference is price though, the LED T8's at Home Depot were at $12 while the fluorescent T8's were at either $16 or $17. So initial cost savings plus continued cost savings should make LED T8's a no brainer.

Two-pack of fluorescents are $12, single's of LED are $12 as well.

Bought the Phillips LED's, noticeably dimmer at only 2100 lumens (vs 2800 fluorescents), took them back, would not recommend.

I think I might convert them all to the LED workshop light from Costco. We have one at work, and it's pretty decent light output at 4000 lumens. See if they go on sale anytime soon as I need 9 of them, minimum.

ZenOps
04-03-2017, 09:17 AM
Look at them energy prices.

3 Canadian cents per kwh, and Alberta one of the last places in North America to switch over to high-efficiency lighting.

Crazy. I guess we now get to enjoy the fruits of putting all that money into energy infrastructure.

speedog
04-03-2017, 10:11 AM
Originally posted by ZenOps
Look at them energy prices.

3 Canadian cents per kwh, and Alberta one of the last places in North America to switch over to high-efficiency lighting.

Crazy. I guess we now get to enjoy the fruits of putting all that money into energy infrastructure.

You say Alberta is one of the last places, please provide your backing documentation to support your claim.

ZenOps
04-03-2017, 11:06 AM
Originally posted by speedog


You say Alberta is one of the last places, please provide your backing documentation to support your claim.

Don't need to, the vast majority of the US is at 12 US cents per kwh right now. The natural high price of electricity very quickly force people to adopt efficient computers/lighting/etc much faster than those with cheap electricity.

Even with a solid decade of energy conservation, Los Angeles had tipped over 20 US cents per kwh.

https://www.bls.gov/regions/west/news-release/averageenergyprices_losangeles.htm

Efficiency laws have been mandatory and fineable for years in places like California in everything from cars to lightbulbs to fridges and TV's. Its a little bit transparent to the consumer, but if a fridge manufacturer does not meet efficiency standards, they are simply not allowed to sell the fridge in California (but they absolutely sell that fridge in areas where electricity is abundant and cheap, like Canada)

16hypen3sp
04-03-2017, 11:07 AM
The NDP still has not announced the details in the Residential Retail Products Program, even tho they said they would release it in March.

Still waiting.
https://www.efficiencyalberta.ca/residential-retail/

suntan
04-22-2017, 09:24 PM
Philips now has a 60 watt equivalent that looks exactly like a normal incandescent. It even has a glass enclosure. I bought four, they work great. Perfectly even light dispersal, a first. Not shown on HD's website, nor even Philips'.

ExtraSlow
05-01-2017, 11:33 AM
Has that NDP communist bullshit changed the price for LED bulbs at all? I heard there was some kind of rebate on them, but like everything the government does, it wasn't clear.

Could use 10-20 to replace some of my older CFL's that are starting to die. Interestingly, I got those from some kind of government program ages ago. Remember when people went door-to-door giving one CFL to each house? I had a buddy doing that, and they ended up just keeping most of the bulbs. I got about 30.

Strider
05-01-2017, 11:45 AM
Originally posted by ExtraSlow
Has that NDP communist bullshit changed the price for LED bulbs at all? I heard there was some kind of rebate on them, but like everything the government does, it wasn't clear.

Greetings comrade ExtraSlow, the energy efficiency rebates from our glorious leader have started to show up on LED bulbs at Costco, Lowes, Canadian Tire, and Home Depot as far as I know. I picked up a bunch of Luminus Elite PAR20s from Costco for $1.33 a piece this weekend.

Apparently it's a gong show at Lowes because there's only certain SKUs that it applies to and the cashiers have to look them up manually in a 5 page binder.

ExtraSlow
05-01-2017, 11:55 AM
$1.33 is a glorious price for this technology. I am thankful to the leaders of our peoples revolution for making such abundance available to my brothers.

Death to all capitalist pigs!

mr2mike
05-01-2017, 12:02 PM
How easy is it to resell these to other "have not" provinces for a profit?
Or am I being too Capitalist?

speedog
05-01-2017, 12:14 PM
Originally posted by mr2mike
How easy is it to resell these to other "have not" provinces for a profit?
Or am I being too Capitalist?

You'd have to report your profits on your taxes and those profits will probably have a surtax on them.

mr2mike
05-01-2017, 12:17 PM
You're right.
Not worth trying to get a head when the NDP will help me survive and live.

schocker
05-01-2017, 12:44 PM
I noticed at HD that many of the philips bulbs don't have the energy star logo. These ones, though identical in specs to the certain size packs that do, do not have the rebate.

ExtraSlow
05-01-2017, 03:09 PM
Wow, good timing. Co-op on 16th avenue has these on sale for $0.99 per two-pack after the instant $5 rebate.
Too bad they are warm white. I think $0.50/bulb is a smoking deal even if these are likely lower quality than some other options. Wonder if other co-op locations have cool white or natural white or any other temperatures?

https://c1.staticflickr.com/3/2841/34233134122_fc9712bfc7.jpg

Xtrema
05-01-2017, 04:41 PM
I was told they are not dimmable either. So I cannot use any of these. NDP better start a EV rebate so I can get my chuck of carbon tax back.

16hypen3sp
05-03-2017, 11:22 PM
I waited for this program to launch for a long time. I had been keeping a close eye on it. After it launched, I went ahead and started switching my incandescent bulbs out for the rebated LED's.

Here is my take on it.

I went to my local hardware store first. They're selection wasn't as good as the big box retailers but they were close to my place so I figured I'd give them a try. The rebated bulbs they had on a big display were all 'cool white' which was a colour I was trying to avoid. I ended up finding some Philips LED bulbs for a rebated price of $1.99 each. I took two of them and moved onto a place with better selection.

That brings me to Wal-Mart. I found a fairly good selection there. I ended up with GE bulbs. Two 2 packs, and two 4 packs. The shelving was labelled with the whole Alberta rebate program so I took them to the cashier. What a total disaster that was. She scans the first of the 2 packs and her till says 'redeem coupon'. She then asked me for a coupon and I told her that the bulbs are rebated by the government. All I got from her was a blank stare in response, followed by a display of frustrations and rapid punching of the numbers on her till. She ended up bypassing the coupon prompt and the till displayed the proper rebated amount. After that, she moved onto the 4 packs and there was NO rebate for them. At this point, I didn't want them so I only ended up walking out with two 2 packs that were rebated.

I then moved onto Canadian Tire. My experience here was pleasant. The bulbs were all right there when I walked in. Clearly rebated and labelled correctly. 99 cents each. Went to the cashier and she knew exactly what she was doing. Rang them thru, paid a dirt cheap amount and went home and installed them.

I'm pretty happy overall. I saved almost 60 bucks in total. Still have to get some more to complete my switch to LED tho.


Originally posted by Xtrema
I was told they are not dimmable either. So I cannot use any of these. NDP better start a EV rebate so I can get my chuck of carbon tax back.

The bulbs I got at CT all say dimmable on the packaging.

ExtraSlow
05-04-2017, 06:37 AM
If I can get daylight colour temp and dimmable bulbs for $0.99, I'm happy. I'll probbaly check out Canadian tire today.

Those ones at Co-op are not dimmable as far as I can tell. Have been to two locations and they didn't have that bulb in a different colour temp at either. Interestingly, the "regular" lightbulb section has no signs or price tags to indicate this rebate. Although, aside froms enior citizens, whoud would buy lightbulbs at co-op anyway?

Kloubek
05-04-2017, 08:05 AM
I'm actually pretty pissed. I had no idea these rebates were coming, but knew I had to switch over asap when we took possession of our new house.

$250 to switch over all our bulbs and then they all went on sale for 80-90% less two weeks later.

Xtrema
05-04-2017, 08:23 AM
Originally posted by mr2mike
How easy is it to resell these to other "have not" provinces for a profit?
Or am I being too Capitalist?

1st you'll need someone need to travel to have not province on their company's dime.

Load up vehicle at 25 packs at a time.

???

Profit

https://innovatewwc.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/seinfeld_s7e221.jpg


Originally posted by 16hypen3sp
The bulbs I got at CT all say dimmable on the packaging.

The ones at Co-Op 2 for $1 are not dimmable. Ended up picked up 8 because I got Co-Op gas coupon expiry soon anyway.