gt35r sleeper =)

[stevo 27]

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[katana9x4]

what sort of hp can the 3s-gte stock internals handle?

[Mr_ET]

with traction I think 11's are quite possible.

we're gonna need some pics of the build up :burnout:

[stevo 27]

i dont know any set numbers ive been told rods are good for 400whp i have never got a straight answer for anybody

BUT just incase im going for a very conservative tune
im gonna keep the a/f ratio anywere from 10.5-11 /1
1 step colder plugs optimal a/f ratio is 11.5/1
so keepin it rather rich will elimanate any detenation

i heard that the stock cams are no good past 330-340whp
but i have seen cases were the 3 has pushed near 400whp
on stock cams i will find out everything on september 14
hopefully it doesnt blow up on the dyno
id like to get atleast 1 month out of it before i park it again
and stroke it, forged internals, cams ,ect ect

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
with traction I think 11's are quite possible.

we're gonna need some pics of the build up :burnout:

yea i gotta take some pics im going to montreal for 2 weeks
soon were im picking up my my new shiney turbo :bigpimp:

it is gonna be a wicked sleeper :angel:
id be proud to have broken into the 11's at 17 years old :D
working 110hr's every 2 weeks will be soooo worth it

[Mr_ET]

Montreal man can you pick up some st hubert bbq sauce and some whippets:rofl:

I miss the east sometimes :P

Etienne

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
Montreal man can you pick up some st hubert bbq sauce and some whippets:rofl:

I miss the east sometimes :P

Etienne


ill pick you up some bbq sause no prob haha
yea going to visit some family havent been back home since 96
and it just happens to be blaast performance is there so
i buy it in person :D :thumbsup:

[stevo 27]

UPDATEDITO

finally finished the house work and got to start on my car

new intercooler is mounted alot smaller than i want =(

started gettin shit out of the way so i can rip the turbo, manifold, inatke manifold and head out tomorow

ripped the dash out somewhat so i can get at the ecu and take
out the rest of air conditiong crap


continued guttin the interiour

and dropped the tank to put the new fuel pump in


didnt get nearly as much as i wanted done today but what can you do

EDIT: flange for exhuast manifold is cut its out being milled to be nice and flat











http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20004.jpg
the hoodscoop is useless now haha

http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20006.jpg

http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20014.jpg

http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20016.jpg

:burnout: :burnout: :burnout::bigpimp: :bigpimp:

[Accord_tunerx]

niceeee dude!:eek:

[TE4MFaint]

Is that Zains old car?

Please fix up the rust..:angel:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Im surprised youre using emanage to control that monster. How do you like the top feed injectors?

[stevo 27]

yup its zains old car and the rust is staying till next season
makes it more of a sleeper


yea the Emanage is only there due to lack of money haha

it will be upgraded next season to an aem along with pistons rods cams head porting ect ect

the top feeds are huge i havent put them in yet
but i have to move alot off shit so the rail and injectors fit

and todays update after smashing my fingers and alot of swaering i got the turbo, manifold , air conditionin pump out

now i wait till i have my turbo to construct the rest of my new manifold

im also gonna see if my stock head gasket holds out

i picked up a few more gauges egt , oil pressure


PICS UP TONIGHT


http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20025.jpg

http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20026.jpg
i am going to relocate the oil fitler its in a gay spot
http://whiteknight.scriptmania.com/steven%20car%20029.jpg
say goodbye the the wee lil turbo

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Accord_tunerx
niceeee dude!:eek:

thanks yea when im done itll be a bit diffrent than the last time you saw it a:burnout:

[Milk2%]

gt35s alot for a stock motor. But i have seen some mr2s pull 400+rwhp. All depends on the condition. Hows the compression? have you done a leak down yet? Good luck on the build. Im going with a gt28. or a 30 just to keep the low end power

[red99600]

high numbers are a moment thing,

what really matters is how long your motor will last.

some will say "then i'll turn down the boost"

then i say "what's the point of such a large turbo when you can get something that spools much quicker".

imho

[stevo 27]

compression test i did a week ago and if i remember correctly
it was 168,165,168,168

the motor wont be stock for long 380whp is just for the next 5 months if that this winter or early spring im ripping it apart
sleeving the block,stroking the motor,ce rods, weisco pistons,
hks 1.6mm head gasket, ported head,ats head studs, custom ground 304 duration 11mm lift cams, changing the 900cc injectors to 1600cc gettin a 350lhp fuel pump,AEM standalone, all 3/8" fuel lines
most likly selling the gt35r and buying a t88
100shot of nitrous dog box straight cut gear transmission

next year im looking for 700-800awhp :bigpimp:



UPDATE:
making my fuel lines for the rail ran out of fittings
stillin waitin for the harness's for my e-manage
im at a stand still till i get more parts :banghead:

[Ghettobaby]

you wanna part with the stock manifold :D ??

Where do you plan on getting your engine work done? I'm thinking it would be easier to buy a built stroker from one of the mr2oc.com vendors than ship my engine away to get built.

[ca18det240sx]

There are a few places in calgary good enuff to build that engine.

Just U wait....next year or the following year i hope to have my full build on my other ca18det done. Im basically just gonna acumulate the parts and put them on as i get them. The ca18det i have built right now will take 350hp, good enuff for now.

My build on next ca18det is as follows

.40 overbore
forged pistons
forged rods
knife edged, cryo treated crank,
270 degree poncams
ported/polished intake and exhaust ports as well as
tomei highlift springs/retainers and solid lifters
HKS GT3037 turbo
75 shot WET nitrous
Aeromotive a1000 pump, most likely go to fuel cell
HOPING for a Os Giken twin plate clutch/flywheel. Thats gonna be a hard one to find.


thats all i got for now, long block gets finished first, then i get huge tubo.

let me know if you want a good place to get the machining on your block done, i have a place.

[stevo 27]

i will most likely get ats just to build it up and send it to me
you want one of my stock manifolds


sounds like your gonna have one mean motor we'll race when your done

what 1/4mile times are you shouting for im going for mid to low 9's when im all said and done maybe faster at 160+mph

and the look of the car will never change the titan of sleepers :bigpimp:

[ca18det240sx]

not really worried about times yet, will cross that road when i get to it. I just want rude power. I pretty much want to replicate the Norris Designs 200sx, which is putting out 650hp out of a ca18det


but then theres this bad boy


http://youtube.com/watch?v=xzOLRXyATx4

[stevo 27]

sick i just wanna get my 380whp out for a few weeks before
the snow comes and the more than double that by the beggining of next season :D

[Ghettobaby]

Originally posted by stevo 27
i will most likely get ats just to build it up and send it to me
you want one of my stock manifolds


Yeah I want to get one ceramic coated. So having a 2nd manifold would mean no down time.

[stevo 27]

ok but you gotta take it off the turbo haha
i need one to port match the flange for my manifold

[zain123]

wow.. nice work man
i kinda miss it now :(
oh and i duno if u already know am back to toyotas now ! lol

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by zain123
wow.. nice work man
i kinda miss it now :(
oh and i duno if u already know am back to toyotas now ! lol

yea i see your soarer all the time or i did before the downtime lol
looks good :thumbsup:

[A3GTiVR6SC]

I'm also planning the same Turbo... AWD FTW! :D
nice project man! :thumbsup:

[stevo 27]

thanks :bigpimp:

[Annoyingrob]

Are you sure that the EMB will be able to run 900cc injectors? I'm not trying to rain on your parade or anything, but isn't the EMB only able to correct +-40%?

Stock on the 3S-GTE is what, 440cc/min? Even with the EMB set at -40%, you're treating those 900cc injectors like 540cc injcetors, which is still 25% too much fuel.

Closed loop should compensate, but under boost, you're going to run RICH. The Stock ECU likes to run aroun 10-11:1 normally. With that much more fuel, you're going to run around 8:1, which will probably misfire.

Nice job on the front mount though. Should have almost gone for another 4" in height :).

I'm also curious as to your fuel system. Isn't there an access panel in the trunk to get to the pump so you don't need to drop the tank? Also, you say you're replacing the lines. How big are you going?

[stevo 27]

i dont know anything about the EMB i was told it would run the
900cc injectors :dunno:
the wayi thought about it was stock injectors are only good to 270whp 20% drivetrain loss = 320hp and 380whp with 20% drivtrain loss 456hp

and if the emb can compansate 40% either way + or-

- 40% would put me at what a 540cc injector would be correct

so if im not totaly off

cc 110,220,330,440,550,660
hp 80,160,240,320,400,480 so at 456hp i would need 627cc 900- 40% =540 so like i said if im not totaly off i should be fine

and yes i confused myself lol



the acsess panel doesnt go to the pump itself but to the gauge meter the pump is 4 inches to the left of the hole :thumbsdow

yea the front mount is alot smaller than i was hoping for

i coulda fit a 36x20x4 theres alot more room in there than i thought

i was gonna switch the fuel lines to 3/8" but that will wait till the
next morfing this winter/early spring

[zain123]

you guna cut up the bumper or what?

[Annoyingrob]

Originally posted by stevo 27
cc 110,220,330,440,550,660
hp 80,160,240,320,400,480 so at 456hp i would need 627cc 900- 40% =540 so like i said if im not totaly off i should be fine

Yes, the EMB will run the injectors, but I don't think it's going to be able to tune it lean enough to make it usable. Let's say your stock ECU at 10psi, at, say 6000rpm runs the stock injectors at 80% duty cycle. That's reasonable. Now, you've installed the EMB, and 900cc injectors. The EMB is able to correct that signal down to 48% duty cycle (100%-40% of the original 80%). That's now 432cc per injector over the original 352cc. That's 20% MORE fuel then you were giving the motor before. Is the car going to need 20% more fuel at 10psi? Probably not.

You see the problem. Even with the EMB maxed out, it's still going to be injecting way more fuel EVERYWHERE on your fuel map. You will need more fuel in some parts, but not everywhere. Something like a 720cc injector would be much more tunable, and stull give you the fuel.

[Idratherbsidewayz]

I only see engine mods being done. I would recommend strengthenig the drivetrain, suspension, and brakes before making a 9 second car.

Also, don't go into this expecting any numbers. Just be happy with what you get. Sometimes you get more, most of the time you get less than you expect. Keep an open mind...

[stevo 27]

what do you mean cut up the bumper


well see what happens with the injectors if i gotta buy smaller ones oh well


and its not gonna be a 9 secound car this year
basically i finish it now and tear it all apart again jan-feb


dog box transmission
new transfer case
new axles
new rear end
dms 50mm tarmack rally coilovers
big brake kit ect ect

and sleeving the block,stroking the motor,ce rods, weisco pistons,
hks 1.6mm head gasket, ported head,ats head studs, custom ground 304 duration 11mm lift cams, changing the 900cc injectors to 1600cc gettin a 350lhp fuel pump,AEM standalone, all 3/8" fuel lines
most likly selling the gt35r and buying a t88
100shot of nitrous

and everything i have right now is wayyy overkill for only 380whp
all thats really holding me back is the stock internals
so i will not go over 380whp

[Jason Lange]

9's are really fast...I mean really. Also a stright cut dog box makes insane noise and is going to need rebuilds less than every 1000kms. I really would like to see you hit your goal but it is a big goal for that setup. In my opinion build it and see where your at. Numbers are just that, build the car to have fun and once it is running and racing worry about cutting tenths off your timeslip.

[stevo 27]

i was uaware of the rebuild factor of the dog box
oh yea i know im not gonna be mad if i dont get what i want

this setup right now ill be happy with mid-low 12's maybe even high 11's

i wanna hit 9's because it is soooo fast haha

pat has 731awhp and runs low 10's at 3650lbs (full interiour, full cage, subs ect ect)

i figure for next season if i can put dont that much power or more
and being 850lbs lighter i might make it

http://www.turbo4wd.net/pat/index.htm

[barmanjay]

9's?

holy crap, I'd be happy with 13's,.../ LOL

[stevo 27]

yes im am determined next season i will break into the 9's
in this car going to the rigs so money will not be an issue :burnout:

i am determined to break into the 9's at 18 years old
in calgary

[Mr_ET]

that's crazy and you will fail

please prove me wrong:thumbsup:

[stevo 27]

were's the faith
and is that a challenge good sir haha

[962 kid]

don't forget to add a couple hundred pounds for the roll cage, etc requried to run 9s

[Mr_ET]

Originally posted by stevo 27
were's the faith
and is that a challenge good sir haha

of course it is!

now more pics pls:D

[Revhard]

Shoot for 12's this year, then get a grasp on what it takes to get 11's.
It's all possible, it just takes time and patience.

[stevo 27]

more pics soon lol

chris you know my dad im the same gotta go for broke :D

[Revhard]

Originally posted by stevo 27
more pics soon lol

chris you know my dad im the same gotta go for broke :D

Very true. You'll be fast or on the hook...

[stevo 27]

by on the hook do you mean dead haha

[stevo 27]

small update : took the old fuel rail off cleaned up some wiring
went to go and put my new injectors and rail in. Well speed sources mounting hardware SUCKS off by a whole inch
so i have to fab up some mounting brackets. Almost dont the
lines for the regulator and rail pics up soon.

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by 962 kid
don't forget to add a couple hundred pounds for the roll cage, etc requried to run 9s

didnt see your post there will be no cage unless i get my pro racing license and start racing in a circut until then ill do one run
and get booted off the track hhahaha every friday

[Revhard]

They aren't stupid you know.
They'll flag your number/id etc.
Plus, your car isn't a dime a dozen...
It'll work once at each track, maybe.
Also, a rollcage to run 9's only weighs about 100lbs in 4130.
The stiffness it adds always outweighs the weight.(no pun intended)

[stevo 27]

well then i will have the master make me one ;)

or gimme pointers so i can do it myself :D

[Accord_tunerx]

pro racing license

is there a site to book your classes? or what

[stevo 27]

no idea heard through some friends pro license in the nopi circuit the have special events were you go get it or something :D


:

[Sorath]

350 at wheels gonna be hard, i`ll let u know that with a 3sgte

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Sorath
350 at wheels gonna be hard, i`ll let u know that with a 3sgte


huh??
and why is that explain further

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by Sorath
350 at wheels gonna be hard, i`ll let u know that with a 3sgte

Durr yah..I dont know where you are
getting all this info from?

Obviously you dont know the potential of these
engines with stock internals.

Considering Stevo here is pretty much
trying to mimick what "Clock n' Dagger" Racing did with
their alltrac..the home of the 9 second alltrac.

I'm pretty sure he'll be wellllllllll capable of hitting 350whp.


Shit, upgrading to a simple C20B will get you close to the 275 mark. :dunno:

[stevo 27]

has pat hit 9's yet ???^^

and yes i will be LIMITNG myself to 380whp because i do not want to melt down my motor everything i have is capable of way more

[Revhard]

Originally posted by stevo 27
well then i will have the master make me one ;)

or gimme pointers so i can do it myself :D

Could be arranged...

[Sorath]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint


Durr yah..I dont know where you are
getting all this info from?

Obviously you dont know the potential of these
engines with stock internals.

Considering Stevo here is pretty much
trying to mimick what "Clock n' Dagger" Racing did with
their alltrac..the home of the 9 second alltrac.

I'm pretty sure he'll be wellllllllll capable of hitting 350whp.


Shit, upgrading to a simple C20B will get you close to the 275 mark. :dunno:

cause i have that turbo and a bigger motor

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Sorath


cause i have that turbo and a bigger motor

and what does that have to do with anything ???

please keep stupid remarks out of my build thread

thank you and good day :thumbsup:


you can start your own thread to learn about the 3sgte

and before you make anymore statements about the 3sgte

research www.mr2oc.com

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by Sorath


cause i have that turbo and a bigger motor



Point being?

You saying that a single turbo conversion RX7 FD with the GT35R with its tiny 1.3L will have less power than the 2.0L GT35R 3SGTE just because of the engine size?

(Sure its a bad example because of the whole rotarty thing but whatever, you get the general idea)

Just because of a smaller motor doesn't mean its less capable of making a good chunk of power.


There are literally HUNDREDS of MR2's with 2nd gen 3SGTE motors that are pushing well over 350hp. Check out some dyno graphs from ATS Racing. Strictly 3SGTE shop.

Example:

http://www.atsracing.net/GaryCT2722psi.JPG

And that is just a simple C26 upgrade to a C27..And what...310whp? Hmm..


Now sure some power will obviously be lost because of the transfer to AWD, but still, the turbo stevo has wayyy more potential than a simple C27.

(Sorry for whoring thread, I just hate how people have no idea what the 3SGTE is capable of)

[barmanjay]

Wow thats awesome!

how is the longevity/reliability of those motors at those hp numbers with stock internals

[Sorath]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint




Point being?

You saying that a single turbo conversion RX7 FD with the GT35R with its tiny 1.3L will have less power than the 2.0L GT35R 3SGTE just because of the engine size?

(Sure its a bad example because of the whole rotarty thing but whatever, you get the general idea)

Just because of a smaller motor doesn't mean its less capable of making a good chunk of power.


There are literally HUNDREDS of MR2's with 2nd gen 3SGTE motors that are pushing well over 350hp. Check out some dyno graphs from ATS Racing. Strictly 3SGTE shop.

Example:

http://www.atsracing.net/GaryCT2722psi.JPG

And that is just a simple C26 upgrade to a C27..And what...310whp? Hmm..


Now sure some power will obviously be lost because of the transfer to AWD, but still, the turbo stevo has wayyy more potential than a simple C27.

(Sorry for whoring thread, I just hate how people have no idea what the 3SGTE is capable of)

rofl dude, the rotary is a complete different motor, im talking about the 3sgte, if u think 310whp on a dynojet is alot then so be it, i was talking about 350whp on a mustang dyno. there is no way in hell a 3sgte is gonna make 350 whp with that turbo, because of the powerband of the turbo

[Noremac]

Should be an awesome project, but I agree that the e-manage blue probably wont have the resolution to run those injectors as well as a full standalone. Also, your expected drivetrain loss is way low at 20%. A fwd honda is around 18% and they have a fairly efficient driveline. Most awd cars are around 23%-27% drivetrain loss, it all depends on the setup.

...Cameron

[Toms-SC]

lol, 9's? Ya, right.

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by Toms-SC
lol, 9's? Ya, right.


Want a vid?

Here you go buddy.

All hail, the almighty Alltrac.

http://www.turbo4wd.net/pat/


http://media.putfile.com/PatVsMR2





Also hmm..Check this out right here..

GT35R alltrac dyno sheet.

http://www.koracing.net/galleryimages/DynoRunsTJ007PumpRace.jpg

Blue curve -- race fuel 25psi. Nemesis and Dyno both showed 23psi, but boost controller showed 25psi.

Red curve -- pump gas 22psi. Nemesis and Dyno both showed 21psi, but boost controller showed 22psi.






Once again. 3SGTE > you.

[Toms-SC]

Holy fuck ricer alert. Try running 9's here ass hat.

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/187073/race-city-aug-17-2007-photos/

Those cars in that thread runs 9's. I have yet to witness any single import run a 9 second pass at Race City.

[Trini]

good luck on that goal of 9 seconds..nice work so far:thumbsup:

[barmanjay]

you sure that stock bottom end can handle 9's?

I don't think so

you need an insane amount of hp to get into the 9's

and with that, lots of work to the bottom end


v Engine (machined by Total Engine Concepts to my specs – assembly done by me)

Ø Short Block* (2.2L stroker)

§ Crower Rods

§ CP Pistons

§ King Bearings

§ Moroso High Capacity Oil Pan

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by Toms-SC
Holy fuck ricer alert. Try running 9's here ass hat.

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/187073/race-city-aug-17-2007-photos/

Those cars in that thread runs 9's. I have yet to witness any single import run a 9 second pass at Race City.



Who ever said anything about running 9's here?

Holy fucking education ass hat.

The 3SGTE bottom end is only capable of 400whp.

Obviously Stevo's goal is NOT 9's.

.
im hopeing for low 12's high 11's thinkin it may be possible


Originally posted by Sorath
350 at wheels gonna be hard, i`ll let u know that with a 3sgte
You were just bluntly stating that the 3SGTE is not capable of making this kind of power.

Low and behold, I sourced information as well as dyno graphs indicating that yes, it is possible on a 3SGTE to make this kind of power with not a lot of upgrading needed.

Learn how to read. Jesus.

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by barmanjay
you need an insane amount of hp to get into the 9's



You are right. You do.

Pat is currently running exactly that..an insane amount of hp.

http://www.turbo4wd.net/pat/dyno.jpg

[Trini]

Originally posted by stevo 27
i will most likely get ats just to build it up and send it to me
you want one of my stock manifolds


sounds like your gonna have one mean motor we'll race when your done

what 1/4mile times are you shouting for im going for mid to low 9's when im all said and done maybe faster at 160+mph

and the look of the car will never change the titan of sleepers :bigpimp: [B]
IMHO he gave the impression he was going for 9's

[962 kid]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint




Who ever said anything about running 9's here?

Holy fucking education ass hat.

The 3SGTE bottom end is only capable of 400whp.

Obviously Stevo's goal is NOT 9's.

.


You were just bluntly stating that the 3SGTE is not capable of making this kind of power.

Low and behold, I sourced information as well as dyno graphs indicating that yes, it is possible on a 3SGTE to make this kind of power with not a lot of upgrading needed.

Learn how to read. Jesus.

you need to calm down :dunno: maybe it's just me but I don't really care about a shitload of random videos, dynocharts and irrelevant comparisons. Sorath said 350mwhp would be hard to do on his current setup, and it will be. So maybe you should stop posting as you haven't contributed anything. BTW, 4g63 > 3sGTE ;)

stevo, what kind of tires are you running? 11s is a pretty lofty goal with that little power

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Toms-SC
Holy fuck ricer alert.
i wish there was an option to put all the 07 members on ignore. :banghead:

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by 962 kid


you need to calm down :dunno: maybe it's just me but I don't really care about a shitload of random videos, dynocharts and irrelevant comparisons.


I am calm. Its a message board. I think youre the one who needs to relax haha.


They aren't random videos, dyno charts, they all are relevant.

The 3SGTE comes with the stock C26 turbo.
Sending your C26 turbo away to ATS racing, they will upgrade it to their own personal "C27" (upgraded C26)
The cost is cheap. Way cheaper than the GT35R.

The dyno indicates the the C27 put down 310awhp.

Relevant, considering Sorath stated that the 3SGTE would be unable to make 350whp with the turbo he had selected.

I THEN posted a dyno sheet of another alltrac owner, using the GT35R and putting down 421awhp.

Relevent. For this is the same turbo that Stevo is using, and proving that, yes, in fact the 3SGTE can put over 350whp by using this turbo.


I dont know how further straight forward I can get? :dunno:

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by gpomp

i wish there was an option to put all the 07 members on ignore. :banghead:


And if only you were sensible and knew that this is a new account after a previous locking of my other 2004 account. :nut:

[Milk2%]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint



I am calm. Its a message board. I think youre the one who needs to relax haha.


They aren't random videos, dyno charts, they all are relevant.

The 3SGTE comes with the stock C26 turbo.
Sending your C26 turbo away to ATS racing, they will upgrade it to their own personal "C27" (upgraded C26)
The cost is cheap. Way cheaper than the GT35R.

The dyno indicates the the C27 put down 310awhp.

Relevant, considering Sorath stated that the 3SGTE would be unable to make 350whp with the turbo he had selected.

I THEN posted a dyno sheet of another alltrac owner, using the GT35R and putting down 421awhp.

Relevent. For this is the same turbo that Stevo is using, and proving that, yes, in fact the 3SGTE can put over 350whp by using this turbo.


I dont know how further straight forward I can get? :dunno:

The ct27 power was put down to an mr2. being that atsracing is mr2 based.

Also regarding the gt35. if done properlly the power will be there. The drive train is strong enough for that amount.
To be honest you can get close to 600whp with the gt35R if done right.
So sorath your doing something wrong cause a gt35 is plenty good for more then 350++whp

[stevo 27]

what does nobody have to work on beyond or what?


to clear things up


this year no i will not be going for 9's obviously
i will be going for high 11's - low 12's


AND YES I AM GOING FOR NINES NEXT SEASON


sleeved 5sfe block
3sgte head ( 7 angle porting)
ats head studs
hks valve spring
1mm oversized valves
custom ground 304 dur 11mm lift cams
ce rods
weisco pistons
1.6 mm HD
5sfe crank
AEM standalone
1600cc injectors
3/8's fuel lines
aeromotive pump
greddy t88
tail 44mm wastegate
4" straight back exhaust
100-150 shot of spray
36x20x4 fmic
aluminuim rad
st205 transmission (beefed up)
new axles
carbon fiber drive shafts
lexand windows back half
relocated fuel cell
DMS 50mm tarmack rally coilovers
basic roll cage
big brake kit
soild motor mounts
engine damper
soild rear end mounts
even more gutted than this year



that is part of what im doing NEXT SEASON



THIS SEASON i am going for 11's if i dont do it big fuckin deal
im gonna have fun in my fast car plain and simple

962 kid: i will probley be running bf g force's seem like a good tire





and toms sc what that directed to me??








AND FOR THE LAST TIME PLEASE TAKE YOUR PISSING CONTEST OUT OF MY BUILD THREAD ITS NOT A FUCKING DEBATE


thank you


steve

[ibcinya]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint



Want a vid?

Here you go buddy.

All hail, the almighty Alltrac.

http://www.turbo4wd.net/pat/


http://media.putfile.com/PatVsMR2





Also hmm..Check this out right here..

GT35R alltrac dyno sheet.

http://www.koracing.net/galleryimages/DynoRunsTJ007PumpRace.jpg

Blue curve -- race fuel 25psi. Nemesis and Dyno both showed 23psi, but boost controller showed 25psi.

Red curve -- pump gas 22psi. Nemesis and Dyno both showed 21psi, but boost controller showed 22psi.






Once again. 3SGTE > you.

dude he said mustang dyno, not fucking dynojet

[stevo 27]

HEY FUCKFACE NOT TO BE RUDE OR ANYTHING BUT


DROP THE ARGUEING MY BUILD THREAD NOW HAS A FULL PAGE OF TOTALY IRRELIVENT BULLSHIT


PLEASE KEEP IT OUT OF MY BUILD THREAD

[Ekliptix]

What's the first estimated track testing? I want to see what happens.

[stevo 27]

well dyno day has to be pushed back :( oct 5

due to funds i cant buy the clutch till sept 15 =(


i dont think i could get away with the oem clutch at the dyno either its only rated for like 250 at the flywheel

so if all goes go there is no snow oct 5 right off the dyno i will be at the track fuck for all i know i might launch and blow the head gasket hopfully not but im messing with stock internals right

so :dunno:

hope i break into the 11's low 12's :D

[Ekliptix]

Originally posted by stevo 27
hope i break into the 11's low 12's :D
Me too, although I think you're going to need more faith then me.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Ekliptix

Me too, although I think you're going to need more faith then me. me 3

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by gpomp
me 3

well gpomp your civic runs low 12's does it not??

how much did you put down ??

and do you run slicks?

[barmanjay]

I hope you get what you are looking for!

If the bottom is good for +350hp,.. then DO IT! :D :D

I'm always pushing the limits of motors :D

[gpomp]

Originally posted by stevo 27


well gpomp your civic runs low 12's does it not??

how much did you put down ??

and do you run slicks?
1. not low 12s
2. i dunno
3. street tires

[Sorath]

Originally posted by Toms-SC
Holy fuck ricer alert. Try running 9's here ass hat.

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/187073/race-city-aug-17-2007-photos/

Those cars in that thread runs 9's. I have yet to witness any single import run a 9 second pass at Race City.

not even all of them run 9s they are mostly 10 second cars

[Sorath]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint



I am calm. Its a message board. I think youre the one who needs to relax haha.


They aren't random videos, dyno charts, they all are relevant.

The 3SGTE comes with the stock C26 turbo.
Sending your C26 turbo away to ATS racing, they will upgrade it to their own personal "C27" (upgraded C26)
The cost is cheap. Way cheaper than the GT35R.

The dyno indicates the the C27 put down 310awhp.

Relevant, considering Sorath stated that the 3SGTE would be unable to make 350whp with the turbo he had selected.

I THEN posted a dyno sheet of another alltrac owner, using the GT35R and putting down 421awhp.

Relevent. For this is the same turbo that Stevo is using, and proving that, yes, in fact the 3SGTE can put over 350whp by using this turbo.


I dont know how further straight forward I can get? :dunno:

we are talking about mustang dynos in calgary, not dynojets in the states, ffs, u say that alltrac owner is running a gt35r putting down 421awhp, that maybe be true but is it running stock internals? i highly doubt so. i have that turbo and i know what its capable of, u`ll be lucky if u hit 310whp on a mustang, but once again, where are u gonna find a place in calgary to find an awd mustang dyno.the only awd dyno is in edmonton. still ur not considering the drive train loss, u can claim whatever numbers u want, i know what ur motor and turbo is capable of and i say u`ll be lucky if u hit 310whp on a mustang, even if u do hit it, u wanna run low 12s to high 11s? dont even talk about 9s cause low 12s is already too farfetched, if u do hit 350whp u`ll hit high 12s, and im being generous, ur forgetting about our elevation

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by stevo 27



AND FOR THE LAST TIME PLEASE TAKE YOUR PISSING CONTEST OUT OF MY BUILD THREAD ITS NOT A FUCKING DEBATE




well if you dont want people commenting then put this in the member ride section, hell i will even move it for you. Its a damn forum and people are here to express their opinions. Sounded like you just want people kissing your ass...:thumbsdow

me and gpomp were discussing this thread, we came up with a few possible results:

1. blowing up, with one 12sec pass
2. never runs
3. runs 13s
4, blowing up while running that 13s pass
addition to 4: claims that if it didnt blow up its a 11s pass
5. runs high 12s - blames the track or lack of traction

[Ekliptix]

Another worthy note:
1. It's hard to estimate hp #'s until the actual results come in.
2. You can't race dyno numbers
3. Going fast isn't cheap

[barmanjay]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren

few possible results:

1. blowing up, with one 12sec pass
2. never runs
3. runs 13s
4, blowing up while running that 13s pass
addition to 4: claims that if it didnt blow up its a 11s pass
5. runs high 12s - blames the track or lack of traction


hahahahaha

I LOL'd

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


well if you dont want people commenting then put this in the member ride section, hell i will even move it for you. Its a damn forum and people are here to express their opinions. Sounded like you just want people kissing your ass...:thumbsdow

me and gpomp were discussing this thread, we came up with a few possible results:

1. blowing up, with one 12sec pass
2. never runs
3. runs 13s
4, blowing up while running that 13s pass
addition to 4: claims that if it didnt blow up its a 11s pass
5. runs high 12s - blames the track or lack of traction


first off i like constructive critism there's alot of experience people on here that can help me out point me in the right direction

and whats with 4 and 5 ??

[Mr_ET]

Stevo ever run a car at Racecity?

[Revhard]

I think having goals is very important. You have to have direction.
It's not like I'm the only one who didn't reach their goals at race city. Alot of us on here are the victims of a terrible track.
I met my goals in edmonton 2 years ago, with street tires and almost 20whp less.
This makes me very bitter sometimes. Again, I'm sure I'm not alone.
The goals you have set are lofty to say the least, and I would say if you are brave enough, head out of town to achive them.
If I can hit 13.7@101 in edmonton with 187whp, street tires, and a mediocre driver, hitting 12's there with even 50-60whp more
shouldn't be all that difficult with awd.
Anthony ran a [email protected] in medicine hat in 30+ weather
with 259whp inthe same platform as me(fwd).
A good night in edmonton in august or september will be about 10-15 deg at night, and will give great results because the traction is there.
Don't think it has to be done here, because as mentioned, here is a tough place to be fast.
There is a very wild talon on here that hasn't run 9's yet, so concentrate on learning as much as you can this year, then build on that.

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by Mr_ET
Stevo ever run a car at Racecity?


Racecity is even prone to giving AWD cars a problem with traction?

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by stevo 27



first off i like constructive critism there's alot of experience people on here that can help me out point me in the right direction

and whats with 4 and 5 ??

well then dont bitch when people ARE giving your constructive criticisms. They are telling your that:
1. Its going to be "HARD" to reach that goal of yours, not impossible, but hard. Now wanting to hit 9s with your current setup, thats impossible. but obviously i actually read and know thats not your current goal.
2. Good luck, you are going to know how to drive in order to hit 12s. So its possible IF you hit your hp goal.

and whats with 4 and 5?

Well if you have been here long here to read threads like this, there are tons of people who dynos high and runs 14s. And then goes on to blame the track or traction (lack of), or they blow up making a billion hp for a week or so. Its not uncommon.

[Mr_ET]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint



Racecity is even prone to giving AWD cars a problem with traction?

They will launch much better then fwd cars but at the horsepower it takes to run 9's yes traction will be an issue there.

Also keep in mind that Racecity is at 2700ft above sea level and that the ambiant air makes your car feel like we are sitting between 5000-6000ft on most summer nights.

I've been going for 3 years and aside from Z_Fan, almost no imports run even 11's here.

I think with 350awhp in a gt-four that should be good for a high to mid 12 pass on a good night with a good driver.

[Fuji]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


well if you dont want people commenting then put this in the member ride section, hell i will even move it for you. Its a damn forum and people are here to express their opinions. Sounded like you just want people kissing your ass...:thumbsdow

me and gpomp were discussing this thread, we came up with a few possible results:

1. blowing up, with one 12sec pass
2. never runs
3. runs 13s
4, blowing up while running that 13s pass
addition to 4: claims that if it didnt blow up its a 11s pass
5. runs high 12s - blames the track or lack of traction


lol all valid results when building a car for power lol....

You forgot one... Leaves transmission at the 60 ft mark if he makes that much power lol

[A3GTiVR6SC]

Originally posted by 962 kid

4g63 > 3sGTE ;)



:werd: :poosie: :D


Originally posted by Mr_ET

I've been going for 3 years and aside from Z_Fan, almost no imports run even 11's here.



Ron korolak ran 10.6 in his 2G Talon...
he will prolly chime in this thread sooner or later.

[stevo 27]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren


well then dont bitch when people ARE giving your constructive criticisms. They are telling your that:
1. Its going to be "HARD" to reach that goal of yours, not impossible, but hard. Now wanting to hit 9s with your current setup, thats impossible. but obviously i actually read and know thats not your current goal.
2. Good luck, you are going to know how to drive in order to hit 12s. So its possible IF you hit your hp goal.

and whats with 4 and 5?

Well if you have been here long here to read threads like this, there are tons of people who dynos high and runs 14s. And then goes on to blame the track or traction (lack of), or they blow up making a billion hp for a week or so. Its not uncommon.

with 4&5
you see my goal is to do it for me i dont give a shit what other people think of me or my car so im not gonna blame anything
if i can't get traction (unlikly) i will buy better tires and coil overs

if i purly dont have enough power i will kick up the boost and run race fuel

if im really close but not quite there i will finally do my lexan windows and remove even more wieght from the car

if i blow up in a week or at the track itll make a cool vid and my quest for 9's will start sooner than i expected

im not gonna blaim anything IF i cannot make my goal whats the point "oh that woulda been an 11 secound pass if i had traction" well it wasnt so do somthing about it



and i wasnt bitchin about the critisim

i was bitching at the bickering between people of the capabilitys of the motor both providing wrong information
that spaned 1 1/2 pages yes it is a forum people arnt gonna get along but when the same thing is said 30 times it's a bit agrvating



and to those who wished me luck i thank you
to those who said its "impossible" i will prove you wrong

[stevo 27]

and for those who are intrested


UPDATE: i have all the peices for my manifold im prepping everything for it tonight i will have the turbo next friday (when i go to montreal) maybe a new clutch to picking up all my intake piping cuplers tonight or tomorow things are starting to come together