Shaw - 100Mb/sec

[anarchy]

Shaw is working on introducing 100Mb/sec internet speeds for consumers. It should come out in the next year, possibly in the first quarter of Fiscal 08.

That would be amazing!
It'll probably cost an arm and a leg though, as Nitro (25 Mb/sec) is already $100 bucks.

[Xaroxantu Zero]

Wonder if they're actually gonna use fiber optics. That way we can have 100 mbps for both download and upload.

[benyl]

wow, that is going to be some megafast porno... hahahaha

Unless you have some massively seeded torrents, I doubt you can take advantage of such speeds.... Although, that is what people said when high speed cable internet first came out... haha

[beecue]

That is useless unless they increase upload speeds

[kenny]

And I wouldn't be surprised if Shaw puts a ridiculously low usage cap for the 100Mbps package like 10GB transfer / month.

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by benyl

wow, that is going to be some megafast porno... hahahaha



Well it's about gosh darn time.

[anarchy]

Originally posted by kenny
And I wouldn't be surprised if Shaw puts a ridiculously low usage cap for the 100Mbps package like 10GB transfer / month.
That wouldn't make any sense business-wise. The whole point is to have the fastest internet speed for consumers in Canada. I doubt they would restrict the transfer limit for customers that are paying huge money for it.

Nitro is only 25Mbps and the transfer limit is 150 GB/month.

[asuth077]

Originally posted by anarchy
Shaw is working on introducing 100Mb/sec internet speeds for consumers. It should come out in the next year, possibly in the first quarter of Fiscal 08.

That would be amazing!
It'll probably cost an arm and a leg though, as Nitro (25 Mb/sec) is already $100 bucks.

Quit leaking business secrets.

[Crymson]

I allegedly have the 10Mbs "extreme" and i have NEVER tested greater than 5Mbs

[Thaco]

Originally posted by Crymson
I allegedly have the 10Mbs "extreme" and i have NEVER tested greater than 5Mbs

that's because speed tests are crap, try a usenet server, i have maxed out at around 1300KB/s on a usenet server, With extreme-i

[anarchy]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/LAC.20070825.RCOVER25/TPStory/Business/?pageRequested=2


Capital spending will be roughly $650-million this year, he says, as the company introduces 100-megabit-per-second Internet service - the industry's fastest available speed, which other cable companies are also actively testing.

"It will be rippin'," Mr. Shaw says. "We'll charge for it, but you know, if you want it, you can get it."

[Crymson]

Originally posted by Thaco


that's because speed tests are crap, try a usenet server, i have maxed out at around 1300KB/s on a usenet server, With extreme-i

The most i've ever grabbed off bit torrent was abotu 700-KB/s, i'll have to try somewhere else.

[beecue]

yup .. I can get 1100KB/s+ constant on usenet

[kenny]

Originally posted by anarchy

That wouldn't make any sense business-wise. The whole point is to have the fastest internet speed for consumers in Canada. I doubt they would restrict the transfer limit for customers that are paying huge money for it.

Nitro is only 25Mbps and the transfer limit is 150 GB/month.

Yeah I was exagerrating a little bit ;)

X-TremeI: 10Mbps 100GB cap
Nitro: 25Mbps 150GB cap
SuperSonic: 100Mbps 250GB cap

This is what my guess is for the new service haha. Not that it matters though since I do well over 200GB per month on the X-TremeI package and they never say anything. I just laugh at the ridiculous limits ISPs put on their packages :)

As to your comment of them restricting the package that is "huge money". The Nitro package is $100 per month which IMO is huge money for personal internet access, and they restrict it to 150GB.

[benyl]

holy crap, how much porn are you watching to download 200 GB / month?

Your forearms must be HUGE

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by kenny


Yeah I was exagerrating a little bit ;)

X-TremeI: 10Mbps 100GB cap
Nitro: 25Mbps 150GB cap
SuperSonic: 100Mbps 250GB cap


That never made sense to me.

Shouldn't the cap be 100GB, 250GB and 1TB?

[culebra]

Just like what they are advertising, It should be unlimited.

[anarchy]

Originally posted by kenny


Yeah I was exagerrating a little bit ;)

X-TremeI: 10Mbps 100GB cap
Nitro: 25Mbps 150GB cap
SuperSonic: 100Mbps 250GB cap

This is what my guess is for the new service haha. Not that it matters though since I do well over 200GB per month on the X-TremeI package and they never say anything. I just laugh at the ridiculous limits ISPs put on their packages :)

As to your comment of them restricting the package that is "huge money". The Nitro package is $100 per month which IMO is huge money for personal internet access, and they restrict it to 150GB.

Fair enough. But as you mentioned, they rarely enforce their caps to the best of my knowledge. I know a lot of people who go over their "caps" and they MIGHT receive a warning if any. I agree that $100/mo is already a lot of money for consumer internet, and I would suspect the 100Mbps would be a significant rate increase over that. IMO it would be hard to believe that they would place an unreasonable cap or go out of their way to enforce it when a customer is bringing in lots of revenue for one service.

But anyways, we'll just have to wait and see what they set for price and cap. 100Mbps is pretty crazy though. Like someone mentioned, I'm not even sure if you could fully utilize it's potential!

[dr_jared88]

oh how i miss saskatchewan internet. huge speeds with no bandwidth cap for cheap :drool:

[tictactoe2004]

Originally posted by culebra
Just like what they are advertising, It should be unlimited.

The reason they advertise that is because of back in the day of 56K Dial up some providers limited the amount of hours you could use per month. They never advertised unlimited bandwidth or unlimited downloading..



They better do something about the upload speed if they want to sell this service.. thats the only reason I havent upgraded my extreme to nitro.. for that much more per month it's stupid nitro doesnt upload faster than extreme.

[Lagerstatten.ca]

Back in December of 2006 I was using Shaw Regular High Speed and after about 2 weeks into the month the modem light was blinking and I had no connection. I called Shaw and they said that I've been flagged for downloading too much (200+Gigs at the time). So they suspended my account for a week and after that the connection was very sporadic. If I even remotely touched a torrent or downloaded a file larger than 10mb...the light would start to blink, and then I'd have to wait an hour or so for it to go solid again.

Now Telus is charging $2 for every gig you're over a month...sucks.

Who to go with...any suggestions?

[kenny]

Originally posted by benyl
holy crap, how much porn are you watching to download 200 GB / month?

Your forearms must be HUGE

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

LOL. Lets just say I don't goto the theatres too often :D

[Zero102]

100mbit would be nice, but like the others I would really like to see the upstream numbers increased, even 10mbit upstream would be good.

I have the 10mbit package and mine is capped at 600K/sec. Even from the shaw speedtest server, whatever I try it ALWAYS caps between 598 and 600K/sec.

For that reason I just use my server at work on the 100mbit unmetered connection for my torrents and seeding to pimp my ratios, and only ever use my shaw connection for browsing forums, since I grab all my files straight off my server at work.

[codetrap]

Originally posted by culebra
Just like what they are advertising, It should be unlimited.

They don't advertise unlimited. In fact, if you go to their website, they clearly state what the limits are in the service description.

What I don't understand, is why everyone expects unlimited bandwidth usage for such cheap prices. And that they have a right to it. It makes perfect sense business wise to put reasonable limits on how much data transfer you get.

After all, if 2% of the customers are utilizing 90% of the infrastructure, then it makes a hell of a lot of sense to turf those 2%, before you allow them to piss off the other 98% of your customer base.

[codetrap]

Originally posted by Lagerstatten.ca
Now Telus is charging $2 for every gig you're over a month...sucks.

Who to go with...any suggestions?

Curb your usage? get multiple providers?

[ronaldo]

i have telus, with a 30 gb cap.

lol 30 gb is like my minimum every month, ive never got a phone call email or paid a cent more

[Supa Dexta]

fuk that... You guy's shouldn't put up with the idea for over usage, because it will only get worse.. It will end up like cell phones, where you only have so much, you go over and you owe huge $$$... Files are getting bigger every day, I think the idea is ridiculous... :bullshit:

[avow]

Originally posted by Lagerstatten.ca

Now Telus is charging $2 for every gig you're over a month...sucks.
Who to go with...any suggestions?
telus as of yet is not enforcing their caps. where did you hear this crap?

[HondaRice]

hahaha

pricing probably

189 a month.

100 mb down

1.5 up.

my evdo REV a is faster UPLOAD then shaw at 150 a month i pay shaw.

[beecue]

Originally posted by codetrap

What I don't understand, is why everyone expects unlimited bandwidth usage for such cheap prices. And that they have a right to it.

Because in other parts of the world they pay like $40 for 50/50 connections .. Canada is way behind

[Lagerstatten.ca]

Originally posted by avow

telus as of yet is not enforcing their caps. where did you hear this crap?

It's right on their website at the bottom:

http://consumer.telus.com/jsp/productcatalogue/personal/internet/highspeed/plansPrices.jsp

This is for Alberta...not sure if it's the same for all the other provinces.

What I'm wondering is if this will be applied retroactively to existing customers as when I signed up for Telus this wasn't on their website.

[codetrap]

Originally posted by beecue


Because in other parts of the world they pay like $40 for 50/50 connections .. Canada is way behind

Really? Where are these internet connections? Also, why don't you start your own ISP and do this yourself? Especially since according to you Canada is way behind.

[codetrap]

Originally posted by Supa Dexta
fuk that... You guy's shouldn't put up with the idea for over usage, because it will only get worse.. It will end up like cell phones, where you only have so much, you go over and you owe huge $$$... Files are getting bigger every day, I think the idea is ridiculous... :bullshit:

Infrastructure costs big money. Networks are not designed to have everyone using it all the time. In order to build them so that everyone has maximum available bandwidth all the time would be prohibitively expensive, and nobody would do it.

Therefore, the network providers limit the amount of traffic by usage caps in order to ensure the the maximum amount of people have access to the maximum amount of bandwidth, without congestion.

For that really small percentage of users that sharing larger and larger file (*cough* illegal movies *cough*) and such, I have little to no sympathy.

Cell phone bandwidth is another story altogether, and they telco's are raping us on the cost per Kb.

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by codetrap


Really? Where are these internet connections? Also, why don't you start your own ISP and do this yourself? Especially since according to you Canada is way behind.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070529-survey-average-broadband-speed-in-us-is-1-9mbps.html

While I was in Europe I was a amazed by the speeds some of my friends were running, and some of them were pretty poor, they pay less for faster internet. I think the problem is that our population density is much lower than many european and asian countries, they can afford the infrastructure and cheaper prices because there are more people living in a sq km.

Canada is not as far behind as the U.S, but it will be awhile before we have affordable prices for higher speeds.

[beecue]

yup I have talked to a lot of people from netherlands and they got quick speeds ... even the U.S has fios from verizon ... I like shaws download speed but if they could increase the upload a little that would be awesome

[codetrap]

Originally posted by Hakkola


http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070529-survey-average-broadband-speed-in-us-is-1-9mbps.html

Canada is not as far behind as the U.S, but it will be awhile before we have affordable prices for higher speeds.

Canada is also catching up quite a bit with the advent of private/public partnerships like the Alberta SuperNet. It was pretty much the only way that broadband access was going to happen for rural communities. There was no way companies like Telus or Shaw would have ever put fiber into the ground for most of these places, as it would never have made money for them. Now, they're offering services in remote locations, and using the Supernet as a backbone back to the urban centres.

http://www.albertasupernet.ca/

[Zero102]

Supernet is _EXPENSIVE_, so much so that when I helped start up a WISP, it was cheaper to build our entire infrastructure than to pay their fees.

[codetrap]

Expensive? AT $50/Mb of bandwidth? That's not too bad I would think. I have a really hard time believing that it's cheaper to building your own infrastructure than to pay their fees.

From what I understand, once you get past the installation charges and tower fees for your wireless gears, it's a recurring charge of $50/Mb, plus $50 access fee.

I'm not sure where else you can get dedicated bandwidth for that cheap.

[signature7]

is there any other way of getting the net in rural communities? My gf lives outside of chestermere but her net is dial up..such a pain cause she has nice computers that hardly ever get used unless she's at my place or at school.

[codetrap]

Wireless ISPs like Xplornet or Platinum. Not sure of the coverage in that particular area though.

[SilverRex]

Originally posted by Lagerstatten.ca
Back in December of 2006 I was using Shaw Regular High Speed and after about 2 weeks into the month the modem light was blinking and I had no connection. I called Shaw and they said that I've been flagged for downloading too much (200+Gigs at the time). So they suspended my account for a week and after that the connection was very sporadic. If I even remotely touched a torrent or downloaded a file larger than 10mb...the light would start to blink, and then I'd have to wait an hour or so for it to go solid again.

Now Telus is charging $2 for every gig you're over a month...sucks.

Who to go with...any suggestions?

telus is charging 2 dollar for every gig over? wtf

I was with telus for many years until last year switched to CIA kuz I moved out, but while I was on telus I would be like 100Gb over every month. I didnt see any extra charges there..

=/ dam I got out at a good time

[rage2]

People bitching about caps should buy some real internet and see how much it really costs (US or Canada). For consumer level internet, shaw is dirt fucking cheap.

We have 2 full duplex 100mbit connections with one being unlimited usage... the amount we pay is about the same as a lease on a F430 lol. Even our dual T1 at our US office can pay for a lease on a SLK55 haha.

If you want to see expensive, check out the rates in India. We pay double our dual T1's costs and get a whopping 512k bandwidth lol.

[kenny]

Originally posted by rage2
We have 2 full duplex 100mbit connections with one being unlimited usage... the amount we pay is about the same as a lease on a F430 lol. Even our dual T1 at our US office can pay for a lease on a SLK55 haha.


Let's scale back the internet at the office, blame Vista for the slow speeds and get ourselves a company car!! :thumbsup: :rofl:

[Thaco]

Originally posted by signature7
is there any other way of getting the net in rural communities? My gf lives outside of chestermere but her net is dial up..such a pain cause she has nice computers that hardly ever get used unless she's at my place or at school.

my brother lives near drumheller gets his internet through some wireless company, he has a bigass antenna on his house for it, it's called wild rose internet or something... it's not bad, better than dialup, but not highspeed by any means.