What would buy if 45k was your max budget ?

[ryanallan]

Helping a friend decide what to buy. He wants a sunday sports car per-sais :thumbsup:

NSX
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/2236/sunday20september201020bc9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1601/nsxequip06ij2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4122/dsc0152gz2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7216/img2098ys6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9820/interiorcn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

993
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/6959/504833653906925c95dowd1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5665/993sidewhollowsfz1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3871/img0440vg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

996
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/316/dsc01284dv8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/1332/dsc1703yn5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Cayman
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/8474/normal2vw8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

C5
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7/mine7br5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

C6
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7732/newvette047fc5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Z4 /M
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/7043/bmwz4grandeme1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

S2000
http://img340.imageshack.us/img340/2531/2008hondas2000crbg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Canmorite]

A C4S or a C6 ZO6 for 45K? Where can I get one?

[arian_ma]

993!!!!
:drool:

[ryanallan]

haha not in canada.

should have specified the prices are USD . . .

and ya, you would be hard pressed to find a C6 Z06 for under 45k.

[Khalil.e]

Wow..

Are you sure some of those vehicle prices dont have to be revisited?

If thats the case - then wow, its time to go sunday cruiser shopping:love:

[Jlude]

In regards to the NSX pic that looks to be a 2002+ (or just conversion)... GL finding I 2002+ NSX with low mileage for 45k!!!! I've tried...


I'd buy an M3!!!

[Hakkola]

993, great performance, little depreciation, and IMO the best looks in the bunch.

Didn't realize you could get a cayman, even used for the price, that is a pretty cool car.

IMO, the 993 is head and shoulders above the others.

[The Cosworth]

I voted NSX but would probably get a 350Z

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by brendankharris
I voted NSX but would probably get a 350Z

For a sunday sportscar? It isn't even near the performance of most of these other cars, and is not on the list.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by Hakkola


For a sunday sportscar? It isn't even near the performance of most of these other cars, and is not on the list.

hence why I said I voted for NSX but I would still rather get a 350Z due to it being new. 300+ Hp, rwd, lsd, two seater sports car?

I dont know sounds pretty close to the S2000 and Z4 to me so it does belong in this group, but don't want a z4 or s2000

[Jlude]

Originally posted by brendankharris
I voted NSX but would probably get a 350Z

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Because they're very similiar cars!!!:nut:

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by Jlude


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Because they're very similiar cars!!!:nut:

I dont know sounds pretty close to the S2000 and Z4 to me so it does belong in this group, but don't want a z4 or s2000

[TE4MFaint]

1998 Toyota Supra TT :drool:

[Jlude]

Originally posted by brendankharris


I dont know sounds pretty close to the S2000 and Z4 to me so it does belong in this group, but don't want a z4 or s2000

Just buggin' ya bro... everyone has their preference... Mine would be an 05 NSX... not gonna find one for 45k... not even close

[TE4MFaint]

Bone stock 98 TT Supra..BALLER! :love:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1998-SUPRA-TWIN-TURBO-6-SPEED-BLACK-AND-BONE-STOCK_W0QQitemZ230168676061QQihZ013QQcategoryZ6447QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[eblend]

Caddy CTS-V :D

http://www.dragtimes.com/images/9701-2004-Cadillac-CTS-V.jpg

[bmeier]

993 by far and its not even close. that being said its not going to be easy to find a nice 993 turbo for $45 000 plus maintenance is not cheap.

NSX would be second but not a close second, there are a lot of other cars not on this list that i would take over an NSX.


You should ask your friend if the cost ok upkeep is important to him because some of those cars are going to cost a lot more in maintenance.

[gpomp]

e46 m3 not on the list?

[stevo 27]

993 :drool:

[EK 2.0]

1992 Honda Civic Sedan.

Then with the other 43 grand I would invest that.

[FatalError]

Are you talking 993 Turbo? If so, best of luck.

993 Turbo's are still big money my friend and $45KCAD or USD is only going to get you in the game to buy someone else's problem.

NSX plus Comptech SC would get my vote out of that bunch, but only because the 993 and C6 Z06 for that price isn't realistic, and the rest aren't all that special.

[max_boost]

2003 BMW M3
http://forums.beyond.ca/st/187263/fs-2003-bmw-m3/

[schocker]

i had to say c6 z06 but i am biast right now as i want a c6 in the spring as i left the s2000 wanting zone.

[ekguy]

thats what i was thinking isn't the cayman like one year old or 2 at the most at like a 90 plus price tag new??? is there that much depreciation with porsche

[riceeater]

996 or the Gayman for sure!! Sorry, but everything else doesnt hold a candle to them... well the 993, but that's a bit old.... you just cant beat new comfort features :nut:

[ryanallan]

Originally posted by bmeier
993 by far and its not even close.

NSX would be second but not a close second, there are a lot of other cars not on this list that i would take over an NSX.


You should ask your friend if the cost ok upkeep is important to him because some of those cars are going to cost a lot more in maintenance.

This friend of mine is really hooked on the NSX because of its simplicity. you just take it to the dealer if anyting goes worng; no exautic mechanic needed.

And yes the red NSX is one of the newer ones, but the side angle is all i wanted.

A M3 is not really a sunday sports car, its really just a raced up coupe.

Also the C6 Z06 most likley wont be under 45k, but its just to tese him. haha

Would you think the 993 would be the most costly of the bunch to maintain ?

What others would you suggest ?

[ryanallan]

Originally posted by ekguy
thats what i was thinking isn't the cayman like one year old or 2 at the most at like a 90 plus price tag new??? is there that much depreciation with porsche

heres an 06' for 50k, and im sure you could talk them down to $45,000

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?rdpage=thumb&car_id=227390916&dealer_id=82086&car_year=2006&marketZipError=false&awsp=false&search_type=both&num_records=10&keywordsfyc=&make=POR&model=CAYMAN&transmission=&distance=0&address=85001&make2=&default_sort=priceDESC&advanced=&certified=&max_mileage=&max_price=50000&sort_type=priceDESC&min_price=&body_code=0&end_year=2008&keywordsrep=&color=&start_year=1981&drive=&search_lang=en&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&engine=&fuel=&doors=&style_flag=1&cardist=1433

[street]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint
1998 Toyota Supra TT :drool:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
you cant get a 98 supra TT it has to be 15 years old

[95EagleAWD]

NSX.

I did, and I love it.

And you don't have to take it to a dealer, since it's a Honda, and nothing breaks.

And my NA1 will keep up with a lot of newer cars. 13.7 @ 101 is what I ran at Bud Park last year, at 2200 feet.

If you can find a nice one, they're awesome cars.

[Sorath]

is ur friend in calgary? i can get ahold of a red nsx thats in great shape, shoot me a pm i can see if i can pull out something

[funkedelic]

get an m3!
kind of a biased opinion tho :D

[rip]

You could get a monster of an STi from the states for that much.

[a social dsease]

I'd personally get a Supra TT, althought I voted S2K because I didn't think most of those choices were in the right price range.

[civickid_21]

M3 FTW!!!:thumbsup: There such great cars to drive

[bmeier]

Originally posted by ryanallan


This friend of mine is really hooked on the NSX because of its simplicity. you just take it to the dealer if anyting goes worng; no exautic mechanic needed.

And yes the red NSX is one of the newer ones, but the side angle is all i wanted.

A M3 is not really a sunday sports car, its really just a raced up coupe.

Also the C6 Z06 most likley wont be under 45k, but its just to tese him. haha

Would you think the 993 would be the most costly of the bunch to maintain ?

What others would you suggest ?


The 993 maintenance wise is going to cost more than every other car listed plus its older so things are going to need repair sooner than the newer cars.

NSXs are cool cars for sure but once you drive a 993 you will not want to go back. the styling and all around performance of the car are incredible. You just cant find that feel anywhere else as far as im concerned

z06 would probably be the cheapest option in the long run because they are newer and have warranty but you cant get one for 45000 so thats out.

s2000 i have no idea why this is even in the same list, personally i dont like them they are fun for awhile but i prefer more torque.

[962 kid]

Originally posted by bmeier



The 993 maintenance wise is going to cost more than every other car listed plus its older so things are going to need repair sooner than the newer cars.

NSXs are cool cars for sure but once you drive a 993 you will not want to go back. the styling and all around performance of the car are incredible. You just cant find that feel anywhere else as far as im concerned


:werd: to that... 993 is the worst 911 to work on by far. I pity anyone that has to deal with maintenance costs on it. Spark plug change, for example, is 10-12 hours plus the cost of 12 spark plugs.

[4doorj]

Originally posted by 962 kid


:werd: to that... 993 is the worst 911 to work on by far. I pity anyone that has to deal with maintenance costs on it. Spark plug change, for example, is 10-12 hours plus the cost of 12 spark plugs.
damn that would suck! :eek:

[Vagabond142]

For under 45k? Mk V Golf GTI. I know it's not a "super car" but it is a superb car. Stick shift 6 speed or DSG 6 speed, they both are amazing.

For the cars listed, I chose NSX because it's my favorite car and you can import one from the states, with all included fees and taxes, for under 32k

[doublepostwhore]

Audi s4 with mods.

[4doorj]

i chose s2000 because im biased
plus u can build a pretty sick s2k with that!

[calgarygts]

There's no question I would buy an elise if I had that much money. Used starts in the mid 30's (in the states) and goes up from there.

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by street

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
you cant get a 98 supra TT it has to be 15 years old


What the hell are you talking about you silly JDM fan boy?

Doesn't matter what the year is when you are bringin up from the STATES. I'm pretty sure we aren't talking about RHD vehicles here buddy.

Yah lets get a 2000+ 993 From Japan...DURRR :banghead:

[dezinr]

996 FTW!

[murd4]

i wud have to say the NSX dood!

very sleek looking car
it would only be a summer/spring car tho lol
so it wouldnt be a every sunday of the year car!:zzz:

[me&you]

Originally posted by calgarygts
There's no question I would buy an elise if I had that much money. Used starts in the mid 30's (in the states) and goes up from there.

Can't import an Elise and pre-owned here is still out of his range. Great choice otherwise!

[Mangina]

NSX? WTF? Are there that many asians on here? :dunno:

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint



What the hell are you talking about you silly JDM fan boy?

Doesn't matter what the year is when you are bringin up from the STATES. I'm pretty sure we aren't talking about RHD vehicles here buddy.

Yah lets get a 2000+ 993 From Japan...DURRR :banghead:

Actually, it does matter what the year of the vehicle is if you are bringing it from ANYWHERE. If it wasn't originally sold in Canada, it can not be brought in until 15 years is up. Supra was only sold in Canada until 1997, in the states it was sold until 1998, those cars sold in 1998 can not be brought into Canada.

Case in point, 2000-2005 mr2 spyder, legal in the U.S, but can not be legally imported into Canada. Ohh, and I'm talking about LHD vehicles.

If you are going to give people attitude, make sure you're right first. DURRR :banghead:

[calgarygts]

Originally posted by Hakkola


Actually, it does matter what the year of the vehicle is if you are bringing it from ANYWHERE. If it wasn't originally sold in Canada, it can not be brought in until 15 years is up. Supra was only sold in Canada until 1997, in the states it was sold until 1998, those cars sold in 1998 can not be brought into Canada.

Case in point, 2000-2005 mr2 spyder, legal in the U.S, but can not be legally imported into Canada. Ohh, and I'm talking about LHD vehicles.

If you are going to give people attitude, make sure you're right first. DURRR :banghead:

I'm embarassed for you.

[Justing]

Originally posted by calgarygts


I'm embarassed for you.


why?

he's right:dunno:

[gpomp]

no he's not. you guys ever heard of the RIV? it's called "Transport Canada's List of Vehicles Admissible from the United States". the supra is one of those vehicles.

[Hakkola]

So 1 more year of the supra can be brought in? Actually didn't know that. Fact remains though, mr2 legal in states and not in Canada. I figured teamfaint was saying any car from the states can be brought up, reread and it sounds like he might be making the statement supra specific. So I could be wrong, LOL. Selfownage, there should be a retard smiley. :banghead:

[adamc]

2003 m5

[Justing]

Originally posted by Hakkola
So 1 more year of the supra can be brought in? Actually didn't know that. Fact remains though, mr2 legal in states and not in Canada. I figured teamfaint was saying any car from the states can be brought up, reread and it sounds like he might be making the statement supra specific. So I could be wrong, LOL. Selfownage, there should be a retard smiley. :banghead:


me defending you, turned into my own self ownage
you son of a bitch :banghead:




oh and yes i would go with a 993 :thumbsup:

[soloracer]

One thing most of you are forgetting is that to bring something up from the US you still have to pay the duties and taxes on it. So add another 13% on top of the cars you are considering bringing up from the US.

As for the selection the pictures you showed are not necessarily representative of cars that you would get for that kind of money. First of all you have a picture of a 993 GT2 which is beautiful but in excess of $100K if you can find one. A 993 Twin Turbo is going to be a minimum $60K and that is for a high mileage car - not the primo one's in your pictures. The C6 Z06 is going to be more money as well although I'm not sure how much.

A 993 N/A and 996 N/A would be in that range and are nice cars to be certain but maintainence could be an issue. The S2000 to me isn't worthy of consideration because of the price you would pay for one (Why have a budget of $45K for a $25K car?) I think your friend is looking for something a little higher end than the S2000 - no offense to the guys who have them.

I personally don't like the looks of the Z4/M and the Cayman is still going to be over the $45K price tag because of how new they are. Even if you could find one for the $45k price the Cayman wouldn't be my choice because the depreciation is bound to be huge. Take a look at the Boxster and how cheap they are today compared to what they cost new.

Which leaves us with the two real contenders - the NSX and the C5 Z06. If you are looking for bang for the buck power you can't beat the C5 Z06. If you are looking for something more exotic and don't mind getting an older example get the NSX.

I don't have a bias against Porsche - I'm the VP of the local Porsche Club and own 4 myself - but if I only had $45K to spend the NSX would be my choice. In fact I bought a 1993 Comptech Supercharged NSX for under that price and don't regret it. Just my $0.02

[ryanallan]

^^ thanks for the input.

I am aware that the pics i posted do not represent the actual cars in the given price range. Like the GT2 you mentioned, i also posted a 996 GT3, a S2000 CR, and the C6 Z06, which all do not fall below 45K.

The pics are just to represent the cars in their many body treatments.

I suggested the S2000 to my friend as an allternative to the NSX. Being a newer Honda product, I thought it may be of intrest to him despite the fact that the two cars are in different leagues.

I really think he is leaning towards a early 90's NSX though. I dont think he can resist the Senna fan inside of him :burnout:

[ryanallan]

Originally posted by adamc
2003 m5


allthough a nice car, it's not really the "low slung", exautic, loud, track ready car you spend entire the week waiting to dive every sunday. . .

[JRSC00LUDE]

Fuck it man, buy 35K worth of dairy queen cheeseburgers and 10K worth of kegs and throw the bitchin'est Burger n' Beer party the city has ever seen. :drool:

[ryanallan]

haha just think of all the girls that would come :poosie:

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by me&you


Can't import an Elise and pre-owned here is still out of his range. Great choice otherwise!

That's pretty fucked that you can't import an Elise, but you can buy one up here... odd.

[me&you]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


That's pretty fucked that you can't import an Elise, but you can buy one up here... odd.

There are mechanical differeces, but mostly it's political. The Lotus Dealers in Canada have created a little monopoly for themselves.

I have a list of required changes to make a US Elise eligible for Canada and rough pricing to perform the changes. Once they're done, you're not really that far ahead.

The main hurdle is getting Lotus Cars to issue the proper clearance letters. Just won't do it.

[calgarygts]

Roughly how much would it be for the changes needed? What kind of changes need to be made? I'm guessing they're trying to say it's a safety thing.

[gpomp]

doesn't matter. it's not on the riv list, which means they won't let it in.

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by Hakkola
So 1 more year of the supra can be brought in? Actually didn't know that. Fact remains though, mr2 legal in states and not in Canada. I figured teamfaint was saying any car from the states can be brought up, reread and it sounds like he might be making the statement supra specific. So I could be wrong, LOL. Selfownage, there should be a retard smiley. :banghead:


No thats not what I meant.

MR2 spyders are not allowed up here for the same reason Evo's arent, they failed our crash test ratings. Nothing to do with how new the car is.



Anyways.
Back on topic.
If I had to choose one from the list, I'd go 996.

Let us know what the decision is!

[TE4MFaint]

Originally posted by ryanallan
I really think he is leaning towards a early 90's NSX though. I dont think he can resist the Senna fan inside of him :burnout:


There is one for sale down here in Medicine Hat..I have no idea what the prices should be for these cars, so I have no idea if this is a decent deal or what-not:

1991 ACURA NSX

93,000 Km Immaculate, Never Winter Driven, Stored Inside Under Cover, 5 Spd., Aluminum Body, Mid Engine, Air, CD, Very Fast, Babied, 3 Litre, 6 Cyl.
Asking $37,000.00
Phone (403) 529-5309 or 502-5827

http://www.forsalebyphoto.ab.ca/pics/C-2144.jpg

[ryanallan]

sweet thanks.

ill show him the link !

[FatalError]

Originally posted by TE4MFaint
1991 ACURA NSX

93,000 Km Immaculate, Never Winter Driven, Stored Inside Under Cover, 5 Spd., Aluminum Body, Mid Engine, Air, CD, Very Fast, Babied, 3 Litre, 6 Cyl.
Asking $37,000.00
Phone (403) 529-5309 or 502-5827


Very fast? Compared to what, a horse and buggy?

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by FatalError


Very fast? Compared to what, a horse and buggy?

13.7 @ 101 in 1991 was pretty fast.

I like that people think they're slow though. Makes me smile when I can jump on an STi and keep up with him.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD


13.7 @ 101 in 1991 was pretty fast.

I like that people think they're slow though. Makes me smile when I can jump on an STi and keep up with him. that is pretty much even with an sti. maybe a bit faster, i don't think i've seen an sti trap over 100 mph.

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by gpomp
that is pretty much even with an sti. maybe a bit faster, i don't think i've seen an sti trap over 100 mph.

Yeah, I know. Not that I do much dragging, but I don't lose to many STIs around here.

[premiere1]

buy my 05 m3 coupe!!:D

[ricefarmer]

My vote would be for a 01+ NSX, otherwise a 996 Carrera S, which ever is more atainable to your buddy

[Revhard]

The nsx is neat, but it's not very special for a sunday car.
I would not even hesitate to buy a 328 gts ferarri, they are that price locally, right here, right now.
I have a Honda, and I really like it. The technology is amazing.
The NSX is not that fast, so I would hope he is basing it mostly on looks.
Older Ferarri's like the 328gts are about 35-45k usd right now.
Just my .02:thumbsup:
If he is stuck to the list, 993. It's not any more exotic than the nsx, it's VW owned.

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by Revhard

It's not any more exotic than the nsx, it's VW owned.

:werd: Bugatti isn't exotic anymore for the same reason.

:rofl:

FYI, it is porsche that owns part of VW, not the other way around.

Also, porsche didn't buy into VW until 2005-2006, and the 993 wasn't being built anymore, so I don't see how the BS info you've supplied is pertinent in any way, shape or form.

[ryanallan]

arnt the older Ferraris very very expensive to maintain ?

like 10k / year

[ScottysZ]

Depends how many miles you put on them but ya, a big service will run close to that.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by doublepostwhore
Audi s4 with mods.

It's not on the list, but, ditto. Year round convenience, and if you got a little older one, you could turn it into an RS4 powerhouse wolf in S4 sheeps clothing. 450hp+ 2.7tt FTMFW!

[E36M3]

So when Porsche takes over VW (as they are trying to do), will it make every VW product Porsche-like?


Originally posted by Hakkola


:werd: Bugatti isn't exotic anymore for the same reason.

:rofl:

FYI, it is porsche that owns part of VW, not the other way around.

Also, porsche didn't buy into VW until 2005-2006, and the 993 wasn't being built anymore, so I don't see how the BS info you've supplied is pertinent in any way, shape or form.

[ex1z7]

Uhh.. Is he actually bringing the car into Canada, or buying it in the states and living down there?

That may be a pretty big factor in the decision making.

Ariel Atom !