86 and older Supras

[Khyron]

I know they aren't speed demons, but how are they to work on? Any known bad things that happen often?

I'm looking for a cheap 2nd beater car that I can learn to work on, do some body work etc and have always liked the old pre-F&F style supras.

Khyron

[Initial-D-Nerd]

go for 88 and up

[92 Teg-B18A]

Speed Dreams used to have awhile back. He should be able to tell ya all about em!

[183ci]

get a 82-86 supra for like 2000-3000 and dump a 7mgte (2500) in it and it will run high12's if your a good driver.
very cheap and fast

[Speed_Dreams]

Originally posted by 92 Teg-B18A
Speed Dreams used to have awhile back. He should be able to tell ya all about em!


I had 2 of them!!!

Best cars ever!!!!

just think you can get a car with 4 wheels disc brakes power steering , brakes , windows , locks , mirrors and sunroof. They are pretty fast... I know that i have suprised people in preludes and integras with it. Not to many performance parts for them but they are a good first car and to learn how to drive Standerd, and if you really needed to go fast you can put the 7M-GTE from the MKIII supra in it. Reg Rimer (sp?) has an 82 supra with a 7M in it and its FAST, like 12 seconds fast. They are RWD and in the Supra you get an LSD witch is Awsome for doing burnouts. There aren't ANY aftermarket rim choices for less then an arm and a leg for. They are lighter and more nimble then the MKIII's. All in all a kick ass car and its super reliable. Just gotta watch out for 2 things...


Volvo's and 240km/h

[Khyron]

I've always loved the look, and RWD drifter car sounds fun fun fun. If I could find a good one for a good price I think I'd jump on board.

Tho I'm really exploring everything from old american muscle (nova/chevelle, etc)to an old VW Mk1 or 2 - hell I was checking out a nice turbo minivan earlier. :angel:

Mainly something that will be easy to learn to work on, will be easy to get parts, and will be fun at the track/races/whatever.

Khyron

[Khyron]

The more I think about it, the more I think a Supra as a project would be fun. How hard would it be to learn basic mechanics? I know some gear heads but they are mostly domestic.

Do they make good track/drift cars? Any huge differences to know about between the 82-86?

Khyron

[dj_honda]

Originally posted by Khyron
The more I think about it, the more I think a Supra as a project would be fun. How hard would it be to learn basic mechanics? I know some gear heads but they are mostly domestic.
Khyron

i don't know about how the car is to own because i have never owned one, but my family has had several cressidas in the family, which shares the same engine and drivetrain. i learned the basics of mechanics off of the 5mge engines.....they are perfectly fine to learn the basics on

[TEG_G2]

I use to own an 82 Celica-Supra...pretty reliable car!

[redline]

Originally posted by 183ci
get a 82-86 supra for like 2000-3000 and dump a 7mgte (2500) in it and it will run high12's if your a good driver.
very cheap and fast

My friend has one that he wants to sell with a 7m engine and upgraded turbo. It ran a 12.77 @ 112 on street tires.

[Khyron]

Unless he's selling for under 1500, I'll have to build my own. :bigpimp:

Khyron

[method]

reg's car wasnt cheap.

rims aren't expensive... 4x114.3 isnt an uncommon bolt pattern.

[GTS Jeff]

u mentioned using the supra to drift. the supra isnt really a popular drift car because of its weight and behicle dynamics.

[Khyron]

Oh not looking to enter any contests or anything, but being RWD at least it's possible (unlike my Jetta). :D

Khyron

[Speed_Dreams]

Originally posted by method
reg's car wasnt cheap.

rims aren't expensive... 4x114.3 isnt an uncommon bolt pattern.

Bolt patterns Common....but the back spacings not. if i can remember correctly it was +48?? something rediculiously weird....I asstually got laughed at when i went to Kal tire to ask about rims.

[Speed_Dreams]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
u mentioned using the supra to drift. the supra isnt really a popular drift car because of its weight and behicle dynamics.

Absolutly right. Killer to drive and they handed awsome. BUt its not a car that can be flung into and out of corners by a rookie. you could do it...just would take a lot of practice becuase of the cars Weight distribution

[Ashkente]

Reg's MkII dyno sheet (http://www.ucalgary.ca/~jrwoo/PICT0277.jpg) :D

Note: Beware, this pic is huge, but it'd be unreadable if I resized it :(

[boosty]

Originally posted by 183ci
get a 82-86 supra for like 2000-3000 and dump a 7mgte (2500) in it and it will run high12's if your a good driver.
very cheap and fast

S-Zero can testify first hand that a straight engine swap in a MKII is not enough for 12's regardless of what someone else may CLAIM (read: B.S.). High 13's at ~103 mph is all his 7mgte powered '83 Supra could muster. Only after adding the Lexus AFM, HKS turbo upgrade and 550 cc injectors could he break 12s.

[Cueman]

Originally posted by Speed_Dreams


Bolt patterns Common....but the back spacings not. if i can remember correctly it was +48?? something rediculiously weird....I asstually got laughed at when i went to Kal tire to ask about rims.

Stock offset is +8 on a 7" rim. Not that unusual.

[Scat]

The Celica Supra is a pretty good car to start out with. But so is a Nissan 300zx. The car is not that complex, and there are more aftermarket parts for it than there are for the supra.

Khyron, I have an '84 non-turbo 300zx comin up for sale soon. 2 seater, 5 speed, fully loaded, a/c, power everything and of course its rear-wheel drive. 190000 kms. I don't have a set price but I will accept any reasonable offer.

I know someone is selling a turbo on beyond too for like $1200. Its just rusty, but a killer deal.

[CRX crazy]

Originally posted by TEG_G2
I use to own an 82 Celica-Supra...pretty reliable car!


i would have to disagree with ya on that one. . . just for the fact i'm driving an 83' supra until i buy my new car and it just crapped out on me in the middle of the storm today and hail on 16th ave ne thats a long way form home, i'm sure ppl had a good laugh watching a little blonde girl trying to push her car off the road :thumbsdow good thing i had a friend behind me . . . . so if you want practice i have one you can practice on

[Speed_Dreams]

Originally posted by CRX crazy



i would have to disagree with ya on that one. . . just for the fact i'm driving an 83' supra until i buy my new car and it just crapped out on me in the middle of the storm today and hail on 16th ave ne thats a long way form home, i'm sure ppl had a good laugh watching a little blonde girl trying to push her car off the road :thumbsdow good thing i had a friend behind me . . . . so if you want practice i have one you can practice on


Well I had 2 supras and one was pretty good. and the other...well I blew up the engine in my own stupidity. But i learned that you shouldn't try to open the throttle more then the factory WOT position :nut:

[dj ambiguous]

supra's are heavy.. the ae86 is a nice weight.. just underpowered.. personally i think the supra is too big a car for me.. that corolla is just the right size :)

[Scat]

Yeah, corolla AE86 would be a great car!
rwd platform, and a very nimble chassis.

[finboy]

Originally posted by Khyron
hell I was checking out a nice turbo minivan earlier. :angel:



:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

as for the supra's i love the looks of them but they seem kind of overweight.

[Scat]

How much do they weigh?

[Khyron]

So I'm still casually looking, and I keep seeing Celicas - how are they compared to the corolla/supra?

For instance, 1983 celica gts.

Thanks,

Khyron

[Speed_Dreams]

the cars are pretty much the same from the fire wall back. but the celica only has a 4cyl and the supra has the 6

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Khyron
So I'm still casually looking, and I keep seeing Celicas - how are they compared to the corolla/supra?

For instance, 1983 celica gts.

Thanks,

Khyron err corolla and supra have almost nothing in common, but the celica supra used to be a higher model of celicas

[Seanith]

yeah back in the day celicas/supras were pretty much the same thing..

[Speed_Dreams]

Originally posted by ~$eanith~
yeah back in the day celicas/supras were pretty much the same thing..


They were never exactly the same. the SUPRA had the 6cyl engine and the celica had the 4 bangger. supras had pop up headlights and the celicas had flip ups. the seats in the Supra were more Racey/supportive. and the Celica just had plain low backet buckets. Supras had Independant Rear suspention with an LSD and Celicas have solid rear axel with no LSD...thats all i can think of right now.

[Khyron]

Well that tells me stick with a Supra or get something else (fun project).

When you guys were talking about Corollas as an alternative what year range is good?

Thx!

Khyron

[Cueman]

AE86 was available 85-87

Certainly more affordable and interesting is TE71 and TE72. These were available from 78-82. This is the platform that the AE86 was derived from, most of the AE86 parts bolt on (even the 4ag).