attention all new vw owners, or anyone with newer vw knowledge!!!

[fcuk_it]

k i'm thinkin of getting a 2000+ vw jetta but i don't know jack shit about them... can someone give me some info about how good the quality is and how hard it is to maintain them and if the parts are expensive and all that kinda shit!!!!!!!!

[nickyh]

there is a VW forum - www.newveedub.com

I have an 02 Jetta 1.8Turbo and for the most part I like it.
Plenty of power when needed thanks to the turbo boost (plus I enjoy hearing the whistle). Just had a few issues with it but like many 02 1.8T owners i was not alone. Quality control problem on ignition coils.

FludicDigital knows just about all there is to know about these cars.

If you are interested I am selling mine..... under 16,000 km. Sports Suspension package (w/17" wheels).....
Did not mean to turn your thread into a classified ad.

[Weapon_R]

2002 had extensive ignition coil problems. Otherwise, a super car!

[Lumburgh]

Yeahhhhh...If you could go ahead and look past the ignition coil problems that Bosch had supplied VW with that would be great...

Terrific car as far as mixing luxury with performance, and decently quick too if you have it chipped, so long as you know how to drive it.

Thats one thing I'm sure about right now...

[Fluidic]

Originally posted by fcuk_it
k i'm thinkin of getting a 2000+ vw jetta but i don't know jack shit about them... can someone give me some info about how good the quality is and how hard it is to maintain them and if the parts are expensive and all that kinda shit!!!!!!!!

PM me the info of this 2000 VW Jetta you are looking at purchasing – we can talk for hours about the pro's and con's of new Volkswagens. For the most part, they are totally kick-ass cars!!

Thanks to NickyH for recommending my website/club. We have two meets a month now – one formal, the other informal – you should come out and check out a few of the dubs that show up – anywhere from 1999.5 to 2003 models.

Hope to see/talk to you later. Here are a few pics (taken by a fellow member) of our latest meeting...

http://www.fluidicdigital.com/FluidicDigital/F1090005.JPG

http://www.fluidicdigital.com/FluidicDigital/F1090024.JPG

Regards!

Peter

[Khyron]

I'd say if you don't mind quirky cars, get one. If things rattling/breaking makes you furious, get a Honda/Toyota. I had 2 coils blow, took less than 3 minutes to get back on the road back to normal.

The actual engine/transmission etc is pretty solid - most vw complaints are stupid stuff like windows falling in the doors, etc. Hence the "quirky" part.

Khyron

[fcuk_it]

did they make 1.8t or the vr6 w/ leather in 1999.5 and 2000???

[Fluidic]

They made a 12V VR6 model in 1999.5 through to 2002 and then the 24V VR6 with more HP and torque took its place. The 1.8T model was first introduced in 2000 -- but it's not the "same" 1.8T engine you might find in a new model like 2002 or 2003. Different turbo (downpipe as well), very little work done internally -- but there is some -- and different size piping too and from the intercooler.

Are you looking at a 2.0L, a 1.8T, a TDI or a VR6?

Peter

EDIT: Oh, and regarding leather -- yes. Leather has always been available in the Jetta regardless of engine size or year.

[TalonVelocity]

mkII's are bettah :)

[fcuk_it]

im lookin for either a 1.8t or vr6, but i want a sunroof too haha

when did they come w/ the 5speed auto tiptronic for those too??

[Fluidic]

They have always have 5-speed manuals... as for the tiptronic... that was introduced in 2002 I believe. It's ok... but nothing like the AMG Mercedes tip! :drool:

These are the standard rules you must follow when picking "motors".

1.8T for the person who want's to really tune ones motor. The turbo has LOADS of potential -- just need to tap it.

The VR6 12 or 24V motor is a nice, factory fast car. Put an exhaust and a cold-air-intake and you are happening. But when you pull up to a chipped 1.8T... don't even try racing him or her -- you will lose.

Peter

[Fluidic]

Oh... I have owned both a 12V VR6 2002 Jetta and a 1.8T Jetta. My 1.8T was faster -- factory.

Don't fool yourself... these aren't race cars. If you want race car... buy Mercedes or BMW -- or maybe an S2000. We can hold are own come top speed runs (track days, etc)... but on the Q/T -- you need some mad skills to pull off good times.

Go and test drive either the 1.8T or VR6 -- then YOU decide! :)

Peter

[boosty]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
They made a 12V VR6 model in 1999.5 through to 2002 and then the 24V VR6 with more HP and torque took its place. The 1.8T model was first introduced in 2000 -- but it's not the "same" 1.8T engine you might find in a new model like 2002 or 2003. Different turbo (downpipe as well), very little work done internally -- but there is some -- and different size piping too and from the intercooler.

What about the 2001 1.8t engine and turbo? Is it the same as the 02/03?

[Fluidic]

Depends.

AWD Motor Classification - 2000 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI
AWW Motor Classification - 2001 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/Wolfsburg
AWP Motor Classification - 2002 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/337
AWP Motor Classification - 2003 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/20AE

AWD a compression ratio of 9.5:1 running a 55mm inlet K03 0.6bar (stock) capable turbo with no Variable Valve Timing (VVT)

AWW a compression ratio of 9.3:1 running a 50mm inlet K03/K04 hybrid turbo capable of 0.6bar stock. First year with VVT

AWP a compression ratio of 9.5:1 running 55mm inlet K03/K04 turbo producing 0.8bar stock. VVT equipped.

[fcuk_it]

awd motor??? all wheel drive??
how good is the motor and tranny?? does it break down and if so does it cost alot to fix?? and are the parts expensive
im thinkin of gettin a 1.8t but i sorta want a auto cuz im lazy but if i have to i'll get a 5speed

[VWhooligan]

AWD is the engine code, its not all wheel drive.

I have an AWD 2000 1.8t Golf. The AWD's are great because they are not susceptable to the failing coilpacks of newer models, although they come with lower power output from the factory. However, you can throw in a turbo from a newer model and have the same output.

[alien]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
Depends.

AWD Motor Classification - 2000 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI
AWW Motor Classification - 2001 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/Wolfsburg
AWP Motor Classification - 2002 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/337
AWP Motor Classification - 2003 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/20AE

AWD a compression ratio of 9.5:1 running a 55mm inlet K03 0.6bar (stock) capable turbo with no Variable Valve Timing (VVT)

AWW a compression ratio of 9.3:1 running a 50mm inlet K03/K04 hybrid turbo capable of 0.6bar stock. First year with VVT

AWP a compression ratio of 9.5:1 running 55mm inlet K03/K04 turbo producing 0.8bar stock. VVT equipped.

Peter, I think you've got the inlet sizes wrong, 44mm on AWD, AWW and newer are 45mm inlet.
I also think you mean to say that AWD and AWW motors run 0.6bar/8.5 psi versus AWP with .8bar, they are all "capable" of flowing the same.

AWP motors will have a slightly taller gearing than the first 2 years too. As well, are AWD drive by wire?:D

[fcuk_it]

so whats better then
the 2000 1.8 or the newer ones???

[VWhooligan]

2001 and newer are all basically the same (after being chipped)

they're faster than the 2000.

[Fluidic]

Originally posted by alien


Peter, I think you've got the inlet sizes wrong, 44mm on AWD, AWW and newer are 45mm inlet.
I also think you mean to say that AWD and AWW motors run 0.6bar/8.5 psi versus AWP with .8bar, they are all "capable" of flowing the same.

AWP motors will have a slightly taller gearing than the first 2 years too. As well, are AWD drive by wire?:D

Hmm... better check my resources. Perhaps they are wrong. I'll get back to you.

Peter

[VWhooligan]

Eng Code Compression Exh. Dia. Turbo Stock Boost Timing
AWD 9.5:1 55mm ko3 0.6bar No VVT
AWW 9.3:1 50mm ko3/ko4 0.6bar VCT
AWP 9.5:1 55mm ko3/ko4 0.8bar VCT emmis

According to www.vwvortex.com FAQ

[fcuk_it]

would it be possible if you guys can give me all the specs/info/detail bout the 2000 jetta 1.8t
like the pros, cons, if their expensive to fix if their good to drive in winter and all that shiet!!! it would be really helpful

[Fluidic]

The 2000 Jetta 1.8T.

A classic and original K03 turbo producing a stock 8.5PSI of boost. Coilpacks that don't seem to fail (good thing). FWD so easy to drive in the winter -- BETTER to drive in the winter with "winter" rubber. A lot of local car/mod support here in Calgary through Concept-1 (www.concept1.ca). A local MK4 club full of enthusiasts willing to help and teach. Fairly good on gas, but at the end of the day it all depends on your lead foot. Oil changes CAN be expensive (German OEM parts) -- but if you stay away from the dealer (with a 2000 model, you won't have a warranty to worry about) -- head to Concept-1 for the best prices and great service.

A 4-cylinder turbo-charged four-door sedan. Period.

[fcuk_it]

so you can't change your oil yourself??? or go to any mechanic to get it changed???
are the parts expensive for the car too???

[Fluidic]

Man. Seriously, it's like any other car. Sure you can change the oil yourself, sure you can goto Canadian Tire to have shit done... it's all about what you pay for now-a-days.

Just buy the car, it's a fine car. The parts are fairly expensive. They are Bosch... same shit BMW uses... so yah... it's not cheap.

Peter