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dino_martini
10-15-2007, 09:56 PM
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Features/articleId=122951


Debuting at the 2007 Tokyo Auto Show on October 24, the long-awaited 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI stands at the very top of Subaru's performance lineup.

And as expected, the Tokyo showcar arrives in an all-new five-door hatchback look.

Subaru enthusiasts will doubtlessly be enraged at the idea of motoring in a hatchback, but we've discovered the STI is ready to do business.

The Way of the Five-Door
The new Impreza rides on a wheelbase that's 4.0 inches longer than before, but this is actually a fractionally smaller package, some 1.7 inches shorter although 1.7 inches wider. As a result, the 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI will weigh 3,263 pounds.

While the WRX is offered in a four-door sedan layout for the U.S. market, our sources suggest that the hot STI version will only be available in hatchback configuration. For the street, there will be two models of the STI fully equipped with curtain-type head-protection airbags, Legacy-style cupholders and even headlight washers, but later there will be a stripped version for competition use.

Compared to the base WRX model, the new STI incorporates a full set of aerodynamic trim pieces including a larger front airdam, a roof-mounted rear wing and an aero diffuser integrated into the rear bumper, plus big fender flares, all designed to smarten up its on-road presence as well as deliver an efficient aerodynamic profile. Even the vents behind the front quarter panels are functional, extracting hot air from the engine bay.

Different Power, Same Numbers
When it's unveiled in Tokyo, we'll see the Japanese-specification STI with its EJ20 turbocharged 2.0-liter horizontally opposed four, and it's expected to produce 304 horsepower at 6,500 rpm. Even more impressive is its torque output of 311 pound-feet at 4,500 rpm, and 90 percent of peak torque is available by 2,400 rpm.

A six-speed manual transmission is part of the package, and it carries triple-cone synchros on 1st gear and double-cone synchros on 2nd and 3rd. Subaru is also promising better fuel economy than the previous engine.

Of course, we'll see a turbocharged 2.5-liter horizontally opposed four for the U.S. version of the STI, an iteration of the EJ257 from the Legacy with revised intake ports and combustion chambers, plus a new turbocharger package.

Magic All-Wheel Drive
Like the new Mitsubishi Evo, the 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI will carry all the most sophisticated chassis hardware at the manufacturer's disposal.

The STI will highlight a revised version of Subaru's all-wheel drive with DCCD (driver's control center differential). This central differential combines a quick-response, electromagnetically operated clutch pack that actively varies the torque split between the front and rear wheels from 41 percent front/59 percent rear to 50 percent front/50 percent rear during cornering, thanks to input from an array of electronic sensors. A helical-type front limited-slip differential helps the front wheels carve through the corners, while a Torsen-type limited-slip does business at the rear.

The STI has Subaru's SI-drive like the current Legacy, a strategy to match engine performance to the kind of driving you do, but the three-mode torque management strategy is completely different.

The 18-inch wheels will come with 245/40R18 tires, which will be Bridgestone Potenza RE050s. Optional 235/45R17 Bridgestone Potenza RE070s are available on 17-inch wheels. The brakes seem to represent a step backward, as four-piston Brembo calipers (with STI branding) are specified for the front wheels.

With the conversion from strut-type independent rear suspension to a new double-wishbone arrangement, the STI promises a smoother ride and greater stability at high speeds. As Subaru sources emphasize to us, the new STI is meant to replace the outgoing model's raw, neck-wrenching performance with smoother acceleration and refined on-road dynamics.

Step Back, Subie Fanatics
The STI's move away from boy-racer image to something with improved interior quality and extra roominess is expected to impress a new type of buyer.

Not that Subaru fanatics care. Enthusiast forums like nasioc.com are rife with comments like this one, as "moaddict" says, "Dear lord the rear end of the STI is FUGLY FUGLY I TELL YOU!!!! I'd like to club one of their designers."

But over time, emotions have settled, as "hondaslayer" noted on the same forum: "It's happened with every generation so far. Subaru announces a face-lift, everybody screams bloody murder, [then] 25 percent of the screamers end up buying one, [and] 50 percent eventually like it [and] even find them hot. Twenty-five percent buy a VW and then come back in two years and buy a Legacy."

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http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/features/general/08.subaru.wrx.sti/08.subaru.wrx.sti.prf.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/features/general/08.subaru.wrx.sti/08.subaru.wrx.sti.rear.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/features/general/08.subaru.wrx.sti/08.subaru.wrx.sti.dsh.500.jpg
http://a332.g.akamai.net/f/332/936/12h/www.edmunds.com//media/il/features/general/08.subaru.wrx.sti/subaru.wrx.sti.group.500.jpg

It's not too bad looking I guess. I saw a Impreza Sedan this evening and it looked pretty good.

mark4091
10-15-2007, 10:08 PM
Meh, like said, it does look nice in person, I just expected something more.

Xtrema
10-15-2007, 11:00 PM
Is that cheering I hear in Mitsu dealerships?

jsn
10-16-2007, 12:20 AM
from the Silhouettes posted in another thread, I thought it would look more aggressive than it actually does... Doesn't have the same STI flare as the older generations did. The car is ugly, but at the same time it's starting to grow on me. Might just be because of the fact that I've always been a fan of imprezas. :thumbsup:

SilverRex
10-16-2007, 06:46 AM
"then] 25 percent of the screamers end up buying one, [and] 50 percent eventually like it [and] even find them hot. Twenty-five percent buy a VW and then come back in two years and buy a Legacy."

das right

wtb
10-25-2007, 11:57 PM
the interior looks nicer...cause of the seats...but thats about it

schocker
10-26-2007, 12:02 AM
that article pretty much sums it up for me. a more refined vehicle, some items a step backwards, a huge change none the less. but i am going to have to side with the evo on this one.

Mibz
10-26-2007, 12:07 AM
I can't stop comparing this to other vehicles, they keep changing though.
Side profile now looks like a Protege 5 and rear end looks like an X3. At least the front is unique.

heavyD
10-26-2007, 12:54 PM
I think it will look better in real-life. One thing buggin me is that the wider front fenders don't blend well with the doors. The cut-off is too abrupt.

analbumcover
10-26-2007, 12:55 PM
i dont like that they made it a hatch and i think the back end is terrible

403Gemini
10-26-2007, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by analbumcover
i dont like that they made it a hatch and i think the back end is terrible

Agree, whats with the craze of hatches lately? :thumbsdow imo all the hatches just look like updated station wagons

michael_tseng_
10-26-2007, 01:18 PM
doesn't look as bad as i thought it would. Evo X for sure though :)

LUCKYSTRIKE
10-26-2007, 01:31 PM
meh

still ugly, i think of mazdaspeed 3 when i look at it.

KRyn
10-26-2007, 01:36 PM
I am interested in what they have this models projected sales pinned at and what they actually turn out to be.

The STi no longer looks like one! It just looks like every other car out there. In my opinion that is lame. :barf:

rc2002
10-26-2007, 01:54 PM
Why does it look so much better in these pictures? I think the silver colour just looks like ass.

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/wrx_sti_r.jpg


http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/wrx_sti_f.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/wrx_sti_int.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sti__02.jpg

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.autoblog.com/media/2007/10/sti__01.jpg

treg50
10-26-2007, 02:05 PM
^ When compared to what?

While driving a week ago, I saw the rear and side (and a bit of the underside, lol) of a WRX hatch (not STi) and a WRX sedan --- both in the classic subaru rally blue! They were on a car-transport truck amongst other Subarus. The WRX hatch looks decent from the little I saw of it. (I gotta start taking my camera in my car with me, first the R8 now this :) )

odin7
10-26-2007, 02:32 PM
I like.

Trini
10-26-2007, 02:45 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

tr4cti0n
10-26-2007, 09:44 PM
the front is very sexy but the back is so disgusting. Why hatch? i prefer the old ones ^^ now that would be sick if they still had the coupes or sedan

95EagleAWD
10-27-2007, 01:27 PM
It's a hatch because the STI in the WRC is going to be a hatch.

Eleanor
10-27-2007, 02:22 PM
Man, i totally disagree with a lot of you guys. I hate the front, looks too toyota corolla. The back end in nice - the clear tails. Make em red and you're solid. Love the interior though. Anyone else think that the R34, the Evo IX and the 04/05 STis look better then their contemporaries? Higher end Japanese sports cars are going downhill in my books anyway.

jtsimaras
10-27-2007, 02:34 PM
NOT TOO SHABY looks better with the widebody fenders.
Whereas wrx 08 is just boring!:thumbsdow

GTS Jeff
10-27-2007, 02:40 PM
The interior is really nice, much better than the EVO X interior in my opinion. It actually resembles my Legacy's interior a lot heh.

GTS Jeff
10-27-2007, 02:49 PM
Dammit, the more I look at these pics, the more the car is growing on me. Maybe this car really is a good contender with the EVO X...

01RedDX
10-27-2007, 06:16 PM
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mazda_maniac
10-27-2007, 06:21 PM
Looks like a Mazda 3/ P5.... terribly similiar. Look at the side profile shot....

Team_Mclaren
10-27-2007, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by GTS Jeff
The interior is really nice, much better than the EVO X interior in my opinion. It actually resembles my Legacy's interior a lot heh.


really? i thought the dash was huge/boxy like. but theres ALOT of room inside.

vadeit
10-27-2007, 06:41 PM
When is the sti coming to N. America? All the pictures and articles I have seen are about the JDM version. Is it going to be an '08 or an '09 model here?

Toms-SC
10-27-2007, 07:13 PM
I like, when is this due for release? MSRP?

tr4cti0n
10-27-2007, 07:44 PM
dude, the interiors is soo nicee, i always love the STi interiors, its just their new exterior that i find so disgusting

gpomp
10-27-2007, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by Toms-SC
I like, when is this due for release? MSRP? 2007 was $49k. the 08 should be the same or slightly cheaper.

tr4cti0n
10-27-2007, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by gpomp
2007 was $49k. the 08 should be the same or slightly cheaper.
08 id 49K as well?#@%$@

Toms-SC
10-28-2007, 12:39 AM
Originally posted by gpomp
2007 was $49k. the 08 should be the same or slightly cheaper.

Yankie or Canadian? That look is growing on me but that is a serious amount of coin for a sport wagon.

Skyline_Addict
10-28-2007, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by Toms-SC


Yankie or Canadian? That look is growing on me but that is a serious amount of coin for a sport wagon.

CAD

forkdork
10-28-2007, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by mazda_maniac
Looks like a Mazda 3/ P5.... terribly similiar. Look at the side profile shot....

Yeah it definately reminded me of the mazda. Also has a sort of Peugeot 307 type look going on.