Update regarding importation of Toyotas from the US.

[Redlyne_mr2]

So we all know that Toyota/Lexus dealers in the US have been told not to sell to Canadians. There are however many dealers out there that you can buy a brand new vehicle from. Transport Canada has now made most of the 2008 toyota lineup and certain Lexus models innadmissible in Canada. I'm hearing reports of more and more people getting stuck at the border with their new Toyota. Just an fyi for anyone looking into a new Toyota/Lexus. If you check the RIV list they shoudl be list on there.. I just cant access pdf files from my Mac.

To fill everyone in.. the new immobilisers that come on the US toyotas do not meet Canadian standards and therefore cannot be brought in.

[dino_martini]

The following Toyota's are importable:

1992-2008 All passenger car models except those listed in the inadmissable column
2008 Yaris Sedan

Not Importable:

1992 Corolla
1992-1994 Tercel/paseo
2000 SC400/300
2000-2005 MR2
2005 and 2006 Scion TC
2008 Yaris Hatchback
2008 Corolla
2008 Prius
2008 Matrix

So you can still import most models..

[schocker]

Well the list is getting bigger and bigger, which is not great as they have added even more vehicles now in addition to the toyotas like 08 corvettes, and others.

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by dino_martini
The following Toyota's are importable:

1992-2008 All passenger car models except those listed in the inadmissable column
2008 Yaris Sedan

Not Importable:

1992 Corolla
1992-1994 Tercel/paseo
2000 SC400/300
2000-2005 MR2
2005 and 2006 Scion TC
2008 Yaris Hatchback
2008 Corolla
2008 Prius
2008 Matrix

So you can still import most models..
There is a list newer than that...Tundra, Sienna, Tacoma, Camry are on there as well IIRC. Ive got the email at work.. Ill post the new release on Monday.

[FishPoo]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

There is a list newer than that...Tundra, Sienna, Tacoma, Camry are on there as well IIRC. Ive got the email at work.. Ill post the new release on Monday.

Yea, when in doubt, always call first, that list changes frequently it seems especially for new models.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

There is a list newer than that...Tundra, Sienna, Tacoma, Camry are on there as well IIRC. Ive got the email at work.. Ill post the new release on Monday.
Wow, that is not good news for people wanting the new models. Are they just getting more picky or are the models changing that much?

[88jbody]

this is getting ridiculous.

here is the RIV list directly

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation/VAFUS/list/Menu.htm

[schocker]

Originally posted by 88jbody
this is getting ridiculous.

here is the RIV list directly

http://www.tc.gc.ca/roadsafety/importation/VAFUS/list/Menu.htm
Looking at it more closely, only 4 08 acura/honda vehicles are allowed.
2008 Acura TSX
2008 Acura TL
2008 Acura RL
2008 Honda S2000
All other 2008 models not listed in the admissible column.

[Ekliptix]

Originally posted by schocker
Well the list is getting bigger and bigger, which is not great as they have added even more vehicles now in addition to the toyotas like 08 corvettes, and others.
WTF about the 2008 Corvettes! I had one all lined up in SD. They don't give an explanation on the RIV site about this. I'm not aware of any immobilizer requirement in Canada. Anyone have any more info on this?

[schocker]

Originally posted by Ekliptix

WTF about the 2008 Corvettes! I had one all lined up in SD. They don't give an explanation on the RIV site about this. I'm not aware of any immobilizer requirement in Canada. Anyone have any more info on this? well that sucks. i was considering one, didnt see this coming. didnt the only thing that really changed is the new engine? and you just had to beef up the bumpers on the other c6's to make them legal.

[Toms-SC]

Perfect timing. This was a card well played by the industry. They have successfully slammed the door on US imports for the 2008 model run due to the 'mobilizers' on the vechiles not being up to spec. Notice that it is mostly the cars with the most price discrepancy? ;) Well done auto makers.

[Tik-Tok]

lol, if you read CMVSS 114 (immobilizer requirements), it basically states that this is all to save insurance companies money. As if they aren't raping us enough.

Oh, that and 6 whole people died in Manitoba in one year due to stolen vehicles being driven dangerously. :rofl:

The way I'm reading it though, if you install an aftermarket immobilzer that complies with all the regulations, you should be legal.

Federal Regulations on immobilzers (http://www.canlii.org/ca/regu/crc1038/part248669.html)

[natejj]

So much for NAFTA eh?

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by natejj
So much for NAFTA eh?

Just another loophole around it, since the U.S. immobilizers aren't the same as ours, it's not the same product as a whole, and can legally be charged different prices.

But when has NAFTA ever benefitted canada?

[88jbody]

our shop brought a couple new c6's up to import spec not long ago...but they may have been 07's

but it was just the crush pad under the bumpers that needed changed to meet canadian spec's

this is complete BS, but then again does not affect me greatly because the newest car I own is an 90

[Plasma69]

well played card by the automakers i must agree. still prickish.. but who says you can't have a friend live in seattle, pick up the car for you and sell it for a buck? or do consumers in the US must sign a non import agreement n shit like that?

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Plasma69
well played card by the automakers i must agree. still prickish.. but who says you can't have a friend live in seattle, pick up the car for you and sell it for a buck? or do consumers in the US must sign a non import agreement n shit like that?
Customs wont let the car across and if you do somehow manage to get it here you wont be able to register it.

[88jbody]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

Customs wont let the car across and if you do somehow manage to get it here you wont be able to register it.

well that only goes for the list of non admissable cars

[kaput]

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[rusich]

Are 2008 Tundras admissible? I couldn't find them on the inadmissibility list.

[Ekliptix]

For the 08 Vettes, they have the same chassis as the 05-07's. The engine is different. The 05-07's are allowed with an upgrade to the bumpers.
I'm not sure how GM could have modified the immobilizer in the 08 production line to make them inadmissible. The 08's were out in the US at least 5 months ago, so they must have been thinking long ahead of how to screw us. I'd actually be surprised, if meeting the Canadian immobilizer specs is what makes the 08's inadmissible, that the 05-07's are any different then the 08's in that regard.

[Sailz]

Wow.....very interesting turn of events.

[heavyD]

Shocking turn of events.:rolleyes:

Corporations & Governments always win. Taxpayers & consumers always lose. We've been taking it in the rear all of our lives, what else did anyone expect? Good fortune with our dollar for once being worth more than US? There is no good fortune for the common people to be had. Carry on. Work your 40 or more hour weeks, pay your taxes, keep your rear end greased for the politicians and corporate execs.

[USED1]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

There is a list newer than that...Tundra, Sienna, Tacoma, Camry are on there as well IIRC. Ive got the email at work.. Ill post the new release on Monday.

I would like to see this release as there is nothing on the RIV inadmissable list.

[TorqueDog]

If one was so inclined, you could always dismantle the entire car, ship the parts up here, put it back together, and title it as a custom kit car.

... assuming you were crazy and had a lot of time on your hands.

Fuck the RIV.

[rage2]

Originally posted by TorqueDog
If one was so inclined, you could always dismantle the entire car, ship the parts up here, put it back together, and title it as a custom kit car.
That doesn't work. Go read the Kit Car rules.

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by rage2

That doesn't work. Go read the Kit Car rules. What part of the vehicle is used in determining how 'old' the car is?

What if I take an 87 Fiero frame but install parts off a 2008 on it? Or if I take a 2008 Corvette frame and install parts off an 87 Grand National onto it?

These are outlandish "What ifs" but there has to be a way around these pricks.

[rage2]

You're getting into hypothetical situations that'll cost 10x more than the savings.

Kit cars have nothing to do with age. You can bring a brand new kit car in, if you follow the rules. And one of the rules is the % of parts from one place.

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by rage2
You're getting into hypothetical situations that'll cost 10x more than the savings.

Kit cars have nothing to do with age. You can bring a brand new kit car in, if you follow the rules. And one of the rules is the % of parts from one place. I know, which is why I said they're "outlandish". ;)

The worst part about all of this is that we are, more or less, powerless to stop what is happening.

If you look at the RIV's site, it states that Kit cars, assembled or not, that are less than 15 years old are inadmissable.

[clem24]

Wow, just wow. Honda being the biggest assholes of them all. Toyota not too far behind. Lucky we bought up an 07 Odyssey instead of waiting for the 08s. :bullshit:

[autosm]

Wow it just seems to be fishy that a rule was changed to make 08's non compliant.

I read some where that this came into effect in early 07 ?

It also says 06 vetts ? Is that because of the bumpers as stated above ?

[Godfuader]

I dont think the list is too restrictive. Nissan, Jag, BMW, Chrysler/Dodge, Ford are quite lenient. Toyota/Lexus only has a handful of '08 models in the restricted column. 4 models hardly makes this a deterrent.
It says 05-06 Scion TC are inadmissible...does that mean 2004 and prior years can be registered in Canada now? :confused:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Tom posted a thread updating my info
http://forums.beyond.ca/st/196653/importing-why-your-getting-blocked-on-2008-models/

[dharminder]

I just did a quick skim of all the posts, so if someone has mentioned this I am sorry.
I called GM Canada, looking to bring in an escalade, and the lady mentioned that to bring in GM cars they have to be minima 6 months old/cretin number of miles (km). This could be the reason why you can’t bring in the 08 models or at least the Vett.

[clem24]

Originally posted by dharminder
I just did a quick skim of all the posts, so if someone has mentioned this I am sorry.
I called GM Canada, looking to bring in an escalade, and the lady mentioned that to bring in GM cars they have to be minima 6 months old/cretin number of miles (km). This could be the reason why you can’t bring in the 08 models or at least the Vett.

Nothing to do with admissibility. That's just a warranty issue.

[jdmXSI]

i was surprised to see that for 2008 the S2000 was the only one that is admissable.

Importing a Vehicle into Canada

HONDA / ACURA
ADMISSIBLE INADMISSIBLE NOTES
1992 TO 2007 All models.
2008 Acura TSX
2008 Acura TL
2008 Acura RL
2008 Honda S2000
All other 2008 models not listed in the admissible column.
See explanations on cover page.



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[Redlyne_mr2]

Ok here is the list all these vehicles do not comply with cmvss 114

All Tundra models
All Sequoia models
All Tacoma models
All Fj Cruiser models
All Sienna models
All corolla models
All Matrix models
Toyota Prius
Toyota Yaris hatchback
Toyota yaris sedan without optional factory installed imobilizer
Rav4 base and sport model
Toyota Highlander base model
Lexus lx570