The Beyond 2008 F1 Season Thread

[retro-steve]

Alonso is an amazing driver with tonnes of skill, I just lost all respect for him after his little wave to Schumacher when his car stalled out and Alonso passed him for the championship back in '06. From that point on every little thing he's done has pissed me right off.

Hamilton has insane amounts of skill, he's not just lucky or anything he's just damn good. Watch the Top Gear episode where he's in the reasonably priced car and does the 3rd fastest lap out of anyone (including Stig) in heavy rain with oil on the track, Hamilton doesn't look like he'll burn out any time soon.

One driver I'm cheering for is Nico Rossberg, he turned down drives with much better cars to stay loyal to Williams and progress the team further, that takes a lot of integrity and with his podium this year and consistantly good finishings I think he's a truly underestimated force on the grid.

[kayzee]

Okay about the Lewis-Alonso incident, Lewis initially was trying to make it look like it was Alonso's fault. He said "I made my move to the right and he made his move to the right and thats it" But by looking thru slowmo replay, Alonso stayed on his line and didn't move to the right. It was Lewis who move to the right albeit he rammed Alosno while doing it. I never read anything like Lewis accepting the blame for that incident.

I don't like Alonso but this time it wasn't his fault and now I think Lewis is turning into Alonso, a very good driver but at the same time somehat arrogant specially last year when he said "Kimi and Ferrari doesn't stand a chance" before the Chinese GP. He also said something like "next time he do it, I'll show him the way to the barrier" when asked how does he feel about Alonso's move at Spa 07.

[mikestypes]

Are the TSN/Speed HD feeds actually HD or just SD in widescreen?

[rage2]

Originally posted by kayzee
Okay about the Lewis-Alonso incident, Lewis initially was trying to make it look like it was Alonso's fault. He said "I made my move to the right and he made his move to the right and thats it" But by looking thru slowmo replay, Alonso stayed on his line and didn't move to the right. It was Lewis who move to the right albeit he rammed Alosno while doing it. I never read anything like Lewis accepting the blame for that incident.

I don't like Alonso but this time it wasn't his fault and now I think Lewis is turning into Alonso, a very good driver but at the same time somehat arrogant specially last year when he said "Kimi and Ferrari doesn't stand a chance" before the Chinese GP. He also said something like "next time he do it, I'll show him the way to the barrier" when asked how does he feel about Alonso's move at Spa 07.
Way to make shit up :rofl:.


Originally posted by mikestypes
Are the TSN/Speed HD feeds actually HD or just SD in widescreen?
SD widescreen upscaled to HD. It looks alright. Better than 4:3 ghettovision.

[ryanallan]

Lots to report from Barcelona.

I wonder if any of these aero updates will make it to the Spanish GP ?

Slick tyres back in testing - interestingly Massa has the fast lap so far w/ a 1:18.3 on slicks.
Back in February Truli was able to post a 1:20.8 on grooved tyres. (Ferrari's quickest time of that test was a 1:22.3)
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3825/f12008tesxp2871ls9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

McLaren's low drag setup - on slicks
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/266/f12008tesxp2884ej9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

McLaren revised wheel covers
New
http://img262.imageshack.us/img262/8619/f12008tesxp2923bi1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Malaysian GP
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/4861/f12008malhy0139rt2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Winter testing
http://img508.imageshack.us/img508/7626/mclarenwheeleb0.png (http://imageshack.us)

Ferrari nose - looks like a front suspension / brake / electronics cooling vent .
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8892/f12008tesxp2881tk5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Some teams were testing what appeared to be a HD onboard camera. Can any one confirm this ?
http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/328/f12008tesxp2930sl1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Renault's RedBull copied engine cover
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/9081/f12008tesxp3026yh1.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Honda's angel wings are back!
looks like they are designed to be used with the rear horns
http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/4315/f12008tesxp3131tm2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/8066/f12008tesxp3009bf4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[ryanallan]

Ok I have confirmed my suspicions of the new F2008 nose.
Due to the lack of under car views, the function of the vents are not exactly clear.
This image confirms an opening underneath the nose, allowing air to flow from the wing up through the vent,
improving the air flow underneath the car as well as reducing drag in these areas.

http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6915/f2008nosedw0.png

[rage2]

It's primary purpose is not to reduce drag... if anything it'll create more drag since the vent is redirecting airflow. Anytime air is "moved" there's drag. It's used to channel and redirect the front air, through that vent, to the rear wings to improve both front and rear downforce with a minimal drag penalty.

The only downside I can see is that it will make the F2008 even more sensitive to wind.

[ryanallan]

A couple more interesting photos from Barcelona .

BMW low drag setup
http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/1271/f12008tesxp3117qb2.jpg

new STR03 - some gifts from RedBull
Bourgay later put the new car in the gravel .
http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/8066/f12008tesxp3123gz6.jpg

MS back in the car - notice the absence of numbers on his test-spec car
also notice the absence of barge boards or any of the many winglets that normally reside on the car.
maybe this is F2009 development car ?
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4237/f12008tesxp3114sv8.jpg
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3320/f12008tesxp3119pf1.jpg

[ryanallan]

Originally posted by rage2
It's primary purpose is not to reduce drag... if anything it'll create more drag since the vent is redirecting airflow. Anytime air is "moved" there's drag. It's used to channel and redirect the front air, through that vent, to the rear wings to improve both front and rear downforce with a minimal drag penalty.

The only downside I can see is that it will make the F2008 even more sensitive to wind. i agree that its sole purpose is not to reduce drag .

f1.com : "This revision eases the passage of air under the crowded nosecone area (see blue arrow),
thus reducing drag and minimising the turbulence of the airflow directed towards the F2008's sidepods."

[BigBadVlad]

Nice pix from Barcelona you put up!

Those Angel wings are awesome! Can't wait to see some footage of a Honda chasing somebody down with those on the nose LOL.

Is 2009 when they are making the move to regenerative braking and that kind of stuff too?

[buh_buh]

Does Honda think they're Rolls Royce or something? I'd like to see some more pics of those wings.

[iceburns288]

Originally posted by ryanallan
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/3320/f12008tesxp3119pf1.jpg
If that is what the 2009 cars look like, I can't wait. That is SO sexy!:drool:

[forkdork]

Next year will absolutely rock.

It sucks that F1 is becoming more of a spec series in general. but at the same time I think it'll become alot more exciting with more equality in the pack.

[rage2]

Originally posted by forkdork
It sucks that F1 is becoming more of a spec series in general. but at the same time I think it'll become alot more exciting with more equality in the pack.
How is it a spec series? :dunno:

Last time I checked, every car looked distinctly different. Especially this year. Not to mention teams aren't even close to each other.

[forkdork]

Originally posted by rage2

How is it a spec series? :dunno:


I could have worded that better, I was a bit misleading there:

I dont like the constant tightening of regulations (banning active suspension, banning 2nd brake pedal, imposing 19k rev limit, 2 weekend engines, 4 weekend gear boxes etc).

[ryanallan]

same manufacture and size of tyres, same ecu, same engine layout, same rpm limit . its getting there, thats for sure.

I like the motoGP format where you could choose your engine (v5, I4, I3), and incur a weight penalty accordantly.
If this were the case im sure Mazda would have a rotary involved.
I think Bernie already shot them down once.

Do you know anything about this rage ?

[buh_buh]

well, active suspension was banned mostly due to its inherent dangers, and the rev limit was imposed in anticipation of the engine freeze. I didn't like the one tire manufacturer when it was first implemented, but I do think the racing has gotten better this year, as opposed to when you could easily predict the finish based on which tire manufacturer was stronger on which track. The one tire manufacturer, along with the TC ban has helped put the racing back in the hands of the driver rather than more external factors controlling the race.

On a separate note, how we be able to differentiate between the prime and option tires next year once they move to slicks?

[ryanallan]

maybe Bernie will give in and use a ChapCar like red-wall for a "soft" ?

Originally posted by BigBadVlad
Is 2009 when they are making the move to regenerative braking and that kind of stuff too? ya next year the kinetic energy recovery systems come online.

this year teams have to run a 10% mixture of bio fuel.
there is rumor about an engine switch in 2011 which would require teams to use a 2.2L V6-turbo and 100% bio fuel .

[ryanallan]

Two more interesting photos from this weeks test.

Today was "paint your wheel covers day" !

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/1685/f12008tesxp3203bb1.jpg
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/5341/f12008tesxp3206zs7.jpg

[l/l/rX]

soo i don't have cable, is there anywhere, where i can stream previous races online?

[rage2]

Originally posted by rage2
It's primary purpose is not to reduce drag... if anything it'll create more drag since the vent is redirecting airflow. Anytime air is "moved" there's drag. It's used to channel and redirect the front air, through that vent, to the rear wings to improve both front and rear downforce with a minimal drag penalty.

The only downside I can see is that it will make the F2008 even more sensitive to wind.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/66755


Speaking about the benefits of the design, Tombazis said: "It allows you to better control the airflow on the front wing, with benefits on other components behind, like the diffuser and the rear wing.
Damn I'm good :rofl:.

[ryanallan]

Another cool aero touch on the BMW car

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1902/bmwrearwingka3.png

Can you explain this one rage (without googling the answer) ?

[Mibz]

Originally posted by ryanallan
Another cool aero touch on the BMW car

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1902/bmwrearwingka3.png

Can you explain this one rage (without googling the answer) ? I can't see clearly. Is it a saw-tooth pattern along the top edge of the wing or a hundred tiny diffusers?

[ryanallan]

Originally posted by Mibz
a saw-tooth pattern along the top edge of the wing ya its the rear wing.
it looks to be the low-drag / 2009-spec wing they were testing in Barcelona this past week.

[rage2]

I'd have to see the front side of that wing to guess wtf they're doing. Do you have a pic of it fron the front angle? I want to know at which point it goes from a smooth surface to the pattern at the trailing edge.

This is a good challenge... testing my aero knowledge. I've actually been studying and learning this stuff the last 6 months hehe. It's like I'm in school, but I'm not. More useless knowledge!

[zxt]

Wow that 2009 spec Ferrari is a thing of beauty.

I hope they won't downsize the engine anymore. V6 isn't just right anymore. Sound won't be the same for sure.

[rage2]

downsize the engine? there's an engine freeze that's lasting a while.

[bashir26]

Originally posted by l/l/rX
soo i don't have cable, is there anywhere, where i can stream previous races online?

I dont know of any streaming websites, but you can download them from mininova.org

[buh_buh]

Barrichello to IRL and Andretti into F1? I find this highly unbelievable, but just passing on the news.

http://www.f1sa.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1294&Itemid=156
Rubens Barrichello has received an offer to see out his long motor racing career in America, according to reports.

The German newspaper Bild claims the 35-year-old, who next month will set a new benchmark as the longest serving grand prix driver in history, has been asked to run with the Andretti Green IndyCar team in 2009.

Barrichello's current contract with the F1 team Honda, owned by the Japanese marque that also equips Andretti Green with engines, runs out at the end of 2008.

Bild raises the possibility of a seat 'swap'; Barrichello to IRL in exchange for Andretti Green's Marco Andretti, the 21-year-old American son of former McLaren driver Michael Andretti, whose own father Mario won the world championship in 1978.

Reportedly, the American broadcaster Speed TV cited Barrichello as confirming the offer.

Marco Andretti has already collected about 900 kilometres of testing in a Honda F1 car.

[Team_Mclaren]

I can see Andretti fail as hard as speed

[forkdork]

Michael Andretti was absolute shit up to the point that he got sacked. I'd love to see how his son gets on haha.

[rage2]

Originally posted by forkdork
Michael Andretti was absolute shit up to the point that he got sacked. I'd love to see how his son gets on haha.
There's a difference... Michael Andretti was driving a really poor handling McLaren in his first year of F1, due to Honda pulling out in 92. And his teammate was Senna, who still to this day is the best driver I've ever seen, so there was a huge benchmark set for Andretti. He was pretty much setup for failure. Senna felt so bad for him, he was very vocal about the McLaren's problems that year and defended him as much as he can.

[buh_buh]

Well, there are still plenty of drivers more deserving of a F1 seat than Andretti, and I don't see Rubens coming to North America to drive in circles. But I could also see the push for another American driver on the grid in an attempt to boost popularity.

[redline]

Originally posted by rage2
downsize the engine? there's an engine freeze that's lasting a while.

they are talking 1.8l turbos again>>>>>>>:nut:

[redline]

Originally posted by buh_buh
Well, there are still plenty of drivers more deserving of a F1 seat than Andretti, and I don't see Rubens coming to North America to drive in circles. But I could also see the push for another American driver on the grid in an attempt to boost popularity.

deserving does not play too much in F1 when it comes to drivers, but money does talk and an Andretti in F1 will bring in US sponsors.

[rage2]

So what lap is Alonso coming in tomorrow? 1? 2? :rofl:

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by rage2
So what lap is Alonso coming in tomorrow? 1? 2? :rofl:

lol, no doubt. that didnt prove anything at all

[rage2]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
lol, no doubt. that didnt prove anything at all
It proved that he wanted to give something to the fans. Too bad it backfired when Kimi jacked it from him after he pumps his fist in victory lol. The pit radio message was awesome. "Kimi took P1 from you. You're P2". Cue silence lol.

I figured Nigel Mansell already taught that lesson. Never celebrate till it's over!

[Team_Mclaren]

ha "victory", something he won't see for at least another year.. or so...

[buh_buh]

Originally posted by rage2
So what lap is Alonso coming in tomorrow? 1? 2? :rofl: no kidding. Alonso P1, Piquet P10. Toyota tried the same thing last year in Fuji with quick quali, only to come in early. At least the Spanish have something to sort of cheer about for 1 day.

[rage2]

Originally posted by buh_buh
no kidding. Alonso P1, Piquet P10. Toyota tried the same thing last year in Fuji with quick quali, only to come in early. At least the Spanish have something to sort of cheer about for 1 day.
It lasted officially 8 seconds. The only time this year where I'm happy that a Ferrari got pole! :rofl:

[rage2]

Seriously hope Kovy's OK. That crash looks huge... he seems to be stuck under the tire barrier :(.

edit - looks pretty bad, car's out of the barriers, the entire lower front is missing, you can see thru the whole bottom front where the nose is through the cockpit. :eek:

[rage2]

Looks like a front left wheel assembly failure in the McLaren, much like Hamilton's problem last year. Heiki's concious, so that's good, but from the video feed, looks like his left foot is fucked.

[Team_Mclaren]

i thought he's fucked for sure. Good to see that he's conscious

[rage2]

McLaren says no injuries, even tho he's getting flown out by helicopter right now.

[/////AMG]

:werd: you could tell when he was being wheeled out his foot/leg doesn't looks too good. Guess we'll find out whats going on soon enough.
At least he cam eout a lot better than what everyone was thinking. :thumbsup:

[Revhard]

Nice. Honda scores points with Button placing 6th.
Good race, another bright red 1-2. Really competitive race, the gaps were small.

[mikestypes]

In a race series as advanced as F1 and with the tracks supposedly being so safe, it is beyond me as to why they still use actual tires for crash barriers....I wonder if some form of the Safer Barrier could be implemented with better results. IF it works well with 220+ mph IRL crahses, why not for F1?

[buh_buh]

Yeah, Heikki's leg looked like it was flopping around on the stretcher when he was getting carried off. What a finish for Honda! I didn't think he'd end up ahead of Nakajima, probably fighting with Trulli even though he went much longer in his second stint before stopping. And WTF happened with Barrichello's wing? The ITV feed only showed the aftermath.

I don't think the spot where Heikki crashed was a regular problem area. The only way you can really go off the way he did there was with some sort of part failure. A paved run off area or safer barriers would'nt have saved him. But I see where your coming from. Crashing 200km/h into some tires doesn't seem all that safe.

[rage2]

Kovy's OK. He was unconcious after the accident, thus the huge amounts of medical attention. No injuries, just slightly concussed. Expected to race in 2 weeks. Thank god!

[cloud7]

Originally posted by mikestypes
In a race series as advanced as F1 and with the tracks supposedly being so safe, it is beyond me as to why they still use actual tires for crash barriers....I wonder if some form of the Safer Barrier could be implemented with better results. IF it works well with 220+ mph IRL crahses, why not for F1?

That's because tires work... you rarely see IRL cars crash the safer barrier dead on with the nose first like Hekki's crash. I would guess that Hekki would have been more seriously fucked up if he had hit the Safer Barrier the way he did.

[mikestypes]

Originally posted by cloud7


That's because tires work... you rarely see IRL cars crash the safer barrier dead on with the nose first like Hekki's crash. I would guess that Hekki would have been more seriously fucked up if he had hit the Safer Barrier the way he did.

IRL cars crash into the safer barrier head on at MUCH higher speeds than Kovi's crash! Kovi only crashed at 130 kph impact speed and if he had not taken the tires in the head, he would have been fine.

What really needs to be corrected is that the tire barrier cannot lift like it did.

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by mikestypes


IRL cars crash head on into the safer barrier head on at MUCH higher speeds than Kovi's crash! Kovi only crashed at 130 kph and if he had not taken the tires in the head, he would have been fine.

What really needs to be corrected is that the tire barrier cannot lift like it did.

he pulled 27G for the stop.
imo, tires worked as they are supposed to, he's fine, no broken bones, no nothing.

[mattyp123]

was a good race but a little boring with no bloody passing!!!

Webber did ok again, Mr Consistency, and Alonso was pretty unlucky.

:drama:

[mikestypes]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
imo, tires worked as they are supposed to, he's fine, no broken bones, no nothing.

Yeah because being knocked unconcious by the "correctly" working tires hitting you in the head is no big deal....

I understand that the tires reduce impact loads alot, but using the driver's head to do it is what concerns me.

[Dave P]

Other then 5am on tsn, is there a reapeat of qualifying this weekend?

[buh_buh]

speed is not reairing, so nobody else will be.
PVR is your friend. :thumbsup:

[Team_Mclaren]

torrent

[ottamania]

Finally Its Istanbul GP. damn I couldnt find any tickets to fly back home be4 F1.

[civic_stylez]

For me its really sad to see the end of the Super Aguri team... you need the jr. teams in F1... alonso and webber all came throught junior teams like minardi, jordan and aguri... :(

http://www.saf1.co.jp/en/topics/2008/nws_080506.html

[rage2]

F1 in HDTV? Check these out...

http://img387.imageshack.us/img387/7954/vlcsnap494632pw2.png

http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/8642/f14je6.jpg

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/5201/f16ph4.jpg

Don't get too excited, just a Philips promo shoot haha. Maybe next year :).

[buh_buh]

we've got rain in the cards for Monaco! :clap:
I couldn't wait to see the first rain race of the year with no tc, but this'll be even better in Monaco.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/weather/5day.shtml?world=4648

[ryanallan]

Massa takes pole this morning, and Kovi crashes .

Looking forward to a wet race tomorrow !

I see Honda is using their new angel wings
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/2029/f12008monxp1129fl8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Trini]

Qualifying result from the Monaco Grand Prix:
1 Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari 1min 15.787secs
2 Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 1:15.815
3 Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren - Mercedes 1:15.839
4 Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) McLaren - Mercedes 1:16.165
5 Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:16.171
6 Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams - Toyota 1:16.548
7 Fernando Alonso (Sp) Renault 1:16.852
8 Jarno Trulli (It) Toyota 1:17.203
9 Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull - Renault 1:17.343
10 David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull - Renault 1:15.839
11 Timo Glock (Ger) Toyota 1:15.907
12 Jenson Button (GB) Honda 1:16.101
13 Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 1:16.455
14 Kazuki Nakajima (Jpn) Williams - Toyota 1:16.479
15 Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Honda 1:16.537
16 Sebastien Bourdais (Fr) Scuderia Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:16.806
17 Nelson Piquet Jr. (Brz) Renault 1:16.933
18 Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Scuderia Toro Rosso - Ferrari 1:16.955
19 Adrian Sutil (Ger) Force India - Ferrari 1:17.225
20 Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Force India - Ferrari 1:17.823

[Alpine Autowerks]

the only downside to this news is that Masa will probably be kept around to keep his seat warm until then.


http://www.totalf1.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=10041

[iceburns288]

http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=34550

"Alonso to Ferrari would be damaging to Ferrari, claims Montezemolo"

[rage2]

What happened to Kimi? Poor Force India... :rofl:

Hamilton for WDC! :thumbsup:

[/////AMG]

Good race :thumbsup: for Lewis, but I feel real bad for Sutil/Force India :thumbsdow even though they were jinxed :(

[cloud7]

Stupid James Allen jinxed Sutil... Kimi had a terrible race by his standard, and messed up by hitting Sutil... putting both out of the points. Sutil knew that he likely won't get another chance to score points like this for a long time.

Hamilton capitalized on a strategy that they had to use after touching the barrier. The weather and safety car cooperated, along with good driving from Hamilton made the win possible.

I am still impressed with Massa. His strategy didn't pay off and it wasn't really his fault. He out scored his teammate Kimi (and all other drivers for that matter) since his mistakes in the first two rounds of championship. I think he has a serious chance of competing for this year's title.

[Trini]

poor sutil and force india..but was a bit of driving kimmi put down there before he ran in the rear of sutil.

congrats to hamilton..Canada is next:bigpimp:

[Dave P]

Does anyone have a torrent of Monaco?

Thanks

[treg50]

Good work by Hamilton, I hope he gets some well deserved redemption this year for last year's result. A shame for Sutil how the good driver and good car DNF while the guy who f'd up stays in the race and finishes.

Did Kimi actually think he could regain control and brake? If it was a Ferrari in front of him he would have gone into the wall or way off into the run off area, he wouldn't drive into the back of another Ferrari.

[mikestypes]

Originally posted by treg50
Did Kimi actually think he could regain control and brake? If it was a Ferrari in front of him he would have gone into the wall or way off into the run off area, he wouldn't drive into the back of another Ferrari.

Actually, he did! There are Ferrari engines in the Force cars.

There was no room to go to the runoff area and I am sure his first instinct isn't "put it in the wall" when he starts a slide...

[Chandler_Racing]

Anyone going to be in Montreal?

[ryanallan]

just finished watching Monaco. ( i have a torrent if any one wants it )

i, and sutil, have one word, f%*k !

it was fun to watch the cars w/o tc in the rain though

[Inzane]

Go Kubica!!! :thumbsup:

[Dave P]

Originally posted by Dave P
Does anyone have a torrent of Monaco?

Thanks



Originally posted by ryanallan
just finished watching Monaco. ( i have a torrent if any one wants it )





Please Post

:thumbsup:

[ryanallan]

how, where can I post ?

so thunder showers expected for this weekend
a high speed track and rain sound like a fun combo to watch

go red :burnout:

[boosted_88_crx]

sweet so i was gonna watch the qualifying today and speed has the channel on the backout restriction, progrmam not available in are area...BS

[Team_Mclaren]

holy fuckkkk 6/10 quicker thats unreal. Not even close/fair. :rofl: :rofl:

[nightfx]

That was amazing! :eek:

[rage2]

Lewis fucking Hamilton.

WDC 2008. That performance was fucking unreal! So wish I was in Montreal this weekend. Holy shit!!

[boosted_88_crx]

got to watch the last few laps. been watching the f1 live timing. good times.

[The Cosworth]

do you think that Montreal is going to loose the race in the coming years. I know it is hard to pave a road in Canada, but I don't know if the FIA will have the patients when there are places within the US that are always warm that can pave a track properly



note: for those of you who didn't watch qualifying the track is breaking up when they race around it. They even had to stop between q2 and q3 to sweep the round about.





edit: 1 sec you SF fans..... 1 sec :D

[buh_buh]

that was the best quali session we've had all season. Great lap by Kubica, I don't even know what to say about Hamilton's last lap. Lets finish off this weekend with some rain.

[Trini]

what time is the race tomorrow?

[rage2]

11am

[Trini]

^cool thanks

[Kobe]

Originally posted by buh_buh
that was the best quali session we've had all season. Great lap by Kubica, I don't even know what to say about Hamilton's last lap. Lets finish off this weekend with some rain.
Kubica for president
http://www.theodora.com/flags/new10/poland_eagle.jpg

[rmk]

Currently calling for thunder showers @ 29 degrees C

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/weather/caqc0363

[Trini]

Originally posted by The Cosworth
do you think that Montreal is going to loose the race in the coming years. I know it is hard to pave a road in Canada, but I don't know if the FIA will have the patients when there are places within the US that are always warm that can pave a track properly



note: for those of you who didn't watch qualifying the track is breaking up when they race around it. They even had to stop between q2 and q3 to sweep the round about.





edit: 1 sec you SF fans..... 1 sec :D

this is disturbing hope those in charge get their act together and fix it properly..

Kubica and Raikkonen commented on it.

[buh_buh]

well, they're resurfacing the track before the race tomorrow. So they'll probably have a permanent fix by next year, although a track breaking up just causes more action in the field so maybe not such a bad thing.
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/68095

[rage2]

Currently clear in Montreal with 2 hrs to go before start. (1:00pm Eastern).

http://www.accuweather.com/canada-radar-large.asp?partner=accuweather&traveler=0&site=ON_&type=SIR&anim=1&level=province&large=1

The rain system is currently in TO, by 1pm Montreal time it'll make it's way to Ottawa. By the end of the race, it'll be in Montreal. So looks like a dry race today.

[The Cosworth]

27°C partly sunny currently

32°C and lightning showers for later it says

[rage2]

Rain will be well after the race. It's completely clear around the Montreal area, so unless the storms move at 4x the speed, it WILL be a dry race.

[rage2]

Start in 2 minutes!!!

[iceburns288]

Lewis you fucking DOLT. Gets beat out of the pits by both Kubica and Raeikkoenen and runs into Kimi at the pit exit.

[The Cosworth]

fuck


:(



why wasnt the team on the radio telling him the lane was still closed





edit: well, maybe force india can score a point. That would be nice.

[Trini]

what a race!!

congrats Kubica!!

Results from the Canadian Grand Prix, Montreal

1. Robert Kubica (Pol) BMW Sauber 1:36:24.447
2. Nick Heidfeld (Ger) BMW Sauber 16.495 secs behind
3. David Coulthard (GB) Red Bull-Renault 23.352 secs
4. Timo Glock (Ger) Toyota +42.627
5. Felipe Massa (Brz) Ferrari +43.934
6. Jarno Trulli (Ita) Toyota +47.775
7. Rubens Barrichello (Brz) Honda +53.597
8. Sebastian Vettel (Ger) Toro Rosso-Ferrari +54.120
9. Heikki Kovalainen (Fin) McLaren-Mercedes +54.433
10. Nico Rosberg (Ger) Williams +57.749
11. Jenson Button (GB) Honda +1:07.540
12. Mark Webber (Aus) Red Bull-Renault +1:11.229
13. Sebastien Bourdais (Fra) Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1 lap behind

R Giancarlo Fisichella (Ita) Force India-Ferrari 51 laps completed
Kazuki Nakajima (Jpn) Williams 46 laps
Fernando Alonso (Spa) Renault 44 laps
Nelson Piquet (Brz) Renault 39 laps
Lewis Hamilton (GB) McLaren-Mercedes 19 laps
Kimi Raikkonen (Fin) Ferrari 19 laps
Adrian Sutil (Ger) Force India-Ferrari 13 laps

Fastest Lap: Kimi Raikkonen, 1:17.387, lap 14.

Key: R = retired

[The Cosworth]

well, it is a good day to be british at least. Congrats DC you old bastard.