Revolution GT42R Killer Project Build

[Lovitt]

Dual Injector setup... NICE!

[ron korolak]

Originally posted by Lovitt
Dual Injector setup... NICE!

It should help in tuning the car as I'm looking to get a tune for 4 or 5 different fuel combinations.

[ron korolak]

Some pics of the car during the body work stage, the car has since been repainted and the color changed.:eek:

http://talongt66.4t.com/CB1.jpg

The new motor prior to being instaled!:cool:

http://talongt66.4t.com/m1.jpg

[Ron@Revolution]

Can a Mod please move to new build forum.

[TheCheff]

Hey Ron.

Awesome build setup you have going on here. The motor is looking beautiful and I cant wait to see the new color :D. I'm just curious as to what the profiles are on those custom cams u received?

[ron korolak]

Originally posted by TheCheff
Hey Ron.

Awesome build setup you have going on here. The motor is looking beautiful and I cant wait to see the new color :D. I'm just curious as to what the profiles are on those custom cams u received?

I would have to dig the specs up but unless your running extremely high compression and boost and 2mm+ valves they probably loose power.

[modfreak]

Up-dates?

[ron korolak]

Sorry have tons of new pics but can't find my cable to down load from my camera.:banghead: I might have to buy a new one this weekend.:thumbsup:

[Jlude]

can't stop reading this thread

[Ron@Revolution]

Ask and you shall receive! This also goes out to Markis who has banned me from 780Tuners! :guns: That's what happens though when someone is just trying to make money off us enthusiasts and is not an enthusiast himself. Please don't promote his site or events!:mad:


Well sorry for the lengthy delay in updates but I got my camera working! Here is a shot of the motor in the car and wired up, and fuel system installed. Just going to fab up a new intercooler pipe 3 1/2" and a new down pipe, and exhaust 4".



http://talongt66.4t.com/2009motor%20front%20good.JPG :guns:

[Ron@Revolution]

I should have some more updates this weekend stay tuned! Wow no comments on the new color?:dunno:

[Mr_ET]

It's quite bright:burnout:

Motor looks good in there, looking forward to seeing some dynos

[Ron@Revolution]

Yes hopefully some track numbers

[redsrt4]

i always like a yellow car.. looks really nice..

[Ron@Revolution]

I wanted something new and different to set the car apart from the majority of DSM out there. The red in the engine bay well be changed out when I pull the motor to clean everything up prior to final installation.

[4lti7ude]

Full pics of car??

[91blackbird]

Thanks god you are taking out the red:clap:

[Ron@Revolution]

A few more pics



http://talongt66.4t.com/2009%20motor%20driver%20good.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/2009%20motor%20pass%20good.JPG

[SNAATCH]

I liked the subtle silver that you had before, but kudo's for doing your own thing and to be unique! :thumbsup:

[Ron@Revolution]

This is a pic of the car it still has a year worth of dirt and dust, and is not finished but just to give everyone a idea of what the finished product well look like.

http://talongt66.4t.com/2009car%20side%20good.JPG

[prudzzz]

Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Ask and you shall receive! This also goes out to Markis who has banned me from 780Tuners! :guns: That's what happens though when someone is just trying to make money off us enthusiasts and is not an enthusiast himself. Please don't promote his site or events!:mad:


I completely agree. I have been banned countless times and i am one of the few who actually contributed good information surrounding Honda's. I was consistantly banned for making jokes just like the reg's and the admin singled me out. That site is a joke.

Your build looks great, i'll probably see you out at castrol this year mid summer if you are out there often. :thumbsup: I love the engine bay shave btw, looks really clean :) not digging the black rims though. I have never been a fan of black rims.

[Ron@Revolution]

Thanks. Really I though the Blk rims looked real nice against the yellow

[prudzzz]

honestly, i am sure alot of people like them. I am just not a fan of them on any cars. I have seen some cars i think that look pretty good with them but even then i think they could look much better with different colour rims. Just ignore my comment about the colour of them because i am biased.

Your car and engine bay are still :drool:

[95EagleAWD]

It's umm.... really bright, Ron!

Looks pretty sweet though. The engine bay is killer. I'd love to have mine that empty!

I can't wait to see it on the road and out at the track.

[Ron@Revolution]

Yep hopefully out on the street to.

[Supa Dexta]

Is your other little vent on the VC just to open air?

And is that a coolant overflow next to your catch can? I'd like to do something with mine, but we have a sensor in our 1gs for low coolant, so I'd have to transfer it to whatever setup I came up with.

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by Supa Dexta
Is your other little vent on the VC just to open air?

And is that a coolant overflow next to your catch can? I'd like to do something with mine, but we have a sensor in our 1gs for low coolant, so I'd have to transfer it to whatever setup I came up with.

No just no line hooked up yet, and yes that is my coolant catch next to the breather.

[Ron@Revolution]

New exhaust manifold is being built everything is being re powder coated

[Jason Lange]

Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
New exhaust manifold is being built everything is being re powder coated

I didn't mind the red in there. What is the new color scheme going to be. Everything looks good man!

[Ron@Revolution]

Well Jim at JM Fabrication is up to his old tricks and working on a new tubular Top Mount Manifold for my car. If it is anywhere near the quality of his Drag Intake Manifold it should be killer. Patiently waiting. :)

Have some new pics up this week!

[Daxin]

I think the hood is slamm'n!!

BTW, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of spark plugs and ignition system are you using? I"m running a 9:1 JE pistons and I was told by some to use BR7ES and others BPR7ES.

thnx

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by Daxin
I think the hood is slamm'n!!

BTW, if you don't mind me asking, what kind of spark plugs and ignition system are you using? I"m running a 9:1 JE pistons and I was told by some to use BR7ES and others BPR7ES.

thnx

Ethier of those should work

[Daxin]

Will you be racing in Calgary anytime soon? Wanna see the thing go!!

[Ron@Revolution]

So the car moves another step closer with my NHRA certification to run up to 8.50!

http://talongt66.4t.com/cert.JPG

[Ron@Revolution]

I couple of teasers of the new setup! Thanks to Jim at JM Fabrications this manifold is so damm nice I hate to even cover it up with a turbo and Downpipe the thing is almost a work of art.:2gunsfiring_v1:

http://talongt66.4t.com/NewSetup1.jpg

http://talongt66.4t.com/NewSetup2.jpg

http://talongt66.4t.com/NewSetup3.jpg

[Ron@Revolution]

Here is some pics of the manifold itself, in all its glory!

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman1.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman2.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman3.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman4.JPG

[91blackbird]

holy shit!!

How long until you think it will be running?

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by 91blackbird
holy shit!!

How long until you think it will be running?

Hoping a couple of weeks:whipped:

[1-Bar]

wow, that mani is nuts....I wonder how many prototypes it took to get it to that stage.....

[Ron@Revolution]

I'm sure not many thats what they do for a living and they are very, very good at it.

[ls/vtec-crx]

Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Here is some pics of the manifold itself, in all its glory!

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman1.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman2.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman3.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/jmman4.JPG

WOW T4 twin scroll w/dual wastegates :eek:

[1-Bar]

Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
I'm sure not many thats what they do for a living and they are very, very good at it.

no doubt.....very nice piece indeed, I could understand the heartache with the turbo covering it :thumbsup:

[Ron@Revolution]

I'm sure when its in the car it well stil put a smile on my face.

[Ron@Revolution]

Got the downpipe and manifold cermaic coated and now ready to get the motor back in the car soon.

http://talongt66.4t.com/Mar24m1.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/downpipecoated.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/manifoldcoatedonmotor.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/Mar24m3.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/Mar24m4.JPG

[Supa Dexta]

Who did you use for ceramic... And does it chip easily? The stuff I had done in edm wasn't worth the cost.

[Ron@Revolution]

I used Impact talk to Bruce tell him I sent you he well treat you good, and does great work. Plus he is a car guy and a racer.

[Supa Dexta]

Yeah thats who I use, first stuff I ever had ceramic'd so I didn't know what to expect, but the black I had done on my manifold and hotside are pretty delicate, anything touches it, it'll chip/brush off... The powder they did turned out good.. So far anyways.. Have another valve cover sitting there I need to pick up.

[Ron@Revolution]

Thanks been real busy working on everyone's stuff but mine. But anyways got the motor and tranny back in and wired up now just plumb the rad hoses, and make intercooler pipes etc and she should be ready to fire up.

http://talongt66.4t.com/june%20m1.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/june%20m2.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/june%20m3.JPG

[Redlyne_mr2]

Just amazing man!

[Ron@Revolution]

Sorry for the delay to busy working on other peoples stuff to get anything done on mine. Some recent engine shots.

http://talongt66.4t.com/IMG_1018.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/IMG_1019.JPG

http://talongt66.4t.com/IMG_1020.JPG

[Revhard]

Looks good. New downpipe? It is already coated in the last pics...

[Ron@Revolution]

Had to change it up so I well have to re-coat it.

She's ALIVE! WWAHHHH:eek:

[Ron@Revolution]

Quick little vid of initial start up!

The Talons Alive!! (http://talongt66.4t.com/images/09startup.wmv)

[962 kid]

Sounds gnarly! Now hurry up and give us some drive-by videos :D

[Ron@Revolution]

I wish I wasn't so busy with other peoples stuff otherwise I would have been driving this thing along time ago:banghead:

[962 kid]

No you wouldn't, you'd be wondering how on Earth you could afford to finish such a monstrous car ;) I know the feeling though, at least there's still lots of summertime left. Hell, our street just got swept last week haha. Is your fusebox relocation all finished up?

[bundi]

:drool: :drool:

Very nice :)

[Ron@Revolution]

Updated photo with all the dirt off the car!

http://talongt66.4t.com/IMG_1042.JPG

[bundi]

Your car has an underbite :P

Again.. looks great, can't wait to see a timeslip :)

[scat19]

Time to school some exotics!

Very nice build, I'm jealous :bigpimp:

[Ron@Revolution]

Hope to be out crusing this weekend!:eek:

[91blackbird]

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/5497/038zdm.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=038zdm.jpg)
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http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/1255/036pmm.th.jpg (http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?image=036pmm.jpg)
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/3567/024tvj.th.jpg (http://img31.imageshack.us/my.php?image=024tvj.jpg)

Some pics of a meet we had tonight. Car look and sounds unreal.

[Ron@Revolution]

Well have to do it again when theres not thunder storm warning! :drama:

[tomt64]

Looks fantastic, I cant believe I missed this thread for so long! ETA on which Friday you are going to RC?
I want to see the runs in person :thumbsup:

[blackpeople]

Looks great Ron.

[Ron@Revolution]

Trying to get the car tuned but going to have to re-engineer the wastegates to get them to work! But on 10Psi this thing is already feel very strong, can't wait to see what 45Psi feels like, and oh yeah the nitrous system might come out of hybernation this year to. :wink:

[Ron@Revolution]

UPDATE

The car is and has been running and is tuned. The problem my Synapse wastegates just aren't working for me. In my opinion they are very poorly designed and the quality control is less then I expect not to mention the many different story's I get when I talk to various employees from Synapse. I just forked out the money for 2 new Tial 44mm's and should have the boost cranked shortly. But I well say even at a very low 13 Psi the car is a beast I can't wait to see what 45psi is going to feel like. Ron

[Ron@Revolution]

New Tial wastegates in the car and starting to tune the car on a pump gas tune.:thumbsup:

[Ron@Revolution]

Here is a quick vid of me doing some tuning of the staged injectors. This pull was from 58Mph or 93 kph to around 96Mph or 154Kph in third on wastegate spring, and pump gas. I'm just rolling into the throttle at first trying to get the transition smoothed out a bit more.

Right click and save
http://talongt66.4t.com/tuning%201%2009%20sept.wmv

[Mr_ET]

Ron will this hit the track before the end of the summer?

[Ron@Revolution]

I would like to but am very busy working on some big projects for customers, and have a cruise coming up so time might be a huge factor.

[962 kid]

So how does it compare to last year's setup so far? First impressions?

[Ron@Revolution]

Faster with 5 psi less boost

[Ron@Revolution]

So to make a long story short took the car to get dyno'd today, and had some technical difficulties. Only made 2 full pulls as the car was loosing either ground or power and resetting the AEM etc... Also never even had a chance to bring the boost up off wastegate spring.:mad: Here is a quick vid of the car and hopefully I well get this electrical problem sorted and get he car tuned. I can say the power and timing this E85 is making is crazy! :eek:

Right click and Enjoy

http://talongt66.4t.com/sept%2009%20dyno_0001.wmv

[Ron@Revolution]

So took the Talon out tonight before I go on my cruise just in case the weather doesn't hold out until Oct. For some reason my clutch is slipping something terrible, and I'm not sure why? :banghead: Still managed a new PB of 10.5 @ 151Mph. :rockon:

[Ron@Revolution]

Looks like I'm already making 800Whp on very mild boost.:poosie:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Ron since the 3sgte and the 4g63 are both 2L 4 cyl what would you recommend for a turbo with decent spool and top end power. I'm running a KKK turbo, basically a k26 hybrid but I'm looking at the gt3071r.

[Ron@Revolution]

PM your details there are so many different factors to take in account like use, rpm, compression, etc..

[Ron@Revolution]

Vid of my 10.5@150Mph pass
I did not shoot the vid just found it on youtube please don't listen to the commentary it well give you a headache. :facepalm:

Right Click and Enjoy!

http://talongt66.4t.com/images/10.5at150mph.mp4

[Ron@Revolution]

Going to test out my clutch tomorrow wish me luck last event of the year up here in Canada this weekend so its do or die for the season. Going to fab up the chute this week, as I was warned by the track to have it on before I returned.

[blackpeople]

was just curious how does that comp turbo compared to the previous one on the hks manifold?

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by blackpeople
was just curious how does that comp turbo compared to the previous one on the hks manifold?

It was also a comp Dual ball bearing this is a Comp Triple ball bearing. Shit 800+Whp on 28Psi its working great.:eek:

[blackpeople]

hahaha I like your reply. I wouldnt be complaining either with those numbers.

Do you have a syncroed transmission or straight cut gears?

[lil*tymer]

Saw this car at castrol today, Ran in the 9's! But something happened on his last run, broken?

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by lil*tymer
Saw this car at castrol today, Ran in the 9's! But something happened on his last run, broken?

Thanks set a new PB today 9.8 @147Mph. Broke a rear axle later on. Does anyone happen to get any video of my runs? Thanks Ron

[Cody D]

Originally posted by Ron@Revolution
Thanks set a new PB today 9.8 @147Mph. Broke a rear axle later on. Does anyone happen to get any video of my runs? Thanks Ron

That really kicks ass Ron, congratulations. What kind of tires are you running these times on?

[95EagleAWD]

Awesome Ron. Congrats!

[Ron@Revolution]

Well went to the track today and besides being cold as hell, had a great time and got to talk to and meet alot of good people. Between the cold, rain cancellation and constant oil downs still managed to set a new PB just two weeks after my last PB. Even though I haven't' had much time to change the tune since I brought on my secondary set of injectors the car is running real rich which is at-least safe. Looks like I also got the clutch problem sorted out finally and something less then a 1.9 60ft.:D Well on to the run. Car went a 9.8@147Mph. This was the same boost setting as my other 150Mph passes but like I said the car is running pig rich and that probably accounted for that few lost Mph. I'm extremely happy with the car and finally getting that elusive 9 second pass. Can't wait for next year. Here is a in car vid of the run enjoy.

Right Click and save

http://talongt66.4t.com/9.8incarOct3.wmv

[Revhard]

Congrats Ron!!!!
The less MPH is more likely due to traction and hook-up on the clutch.
Clutch slipping on the line is like wheelspin, always gives you a false mph.
The weather was perfect too really. Edmonton is an awesome track, the cold air isn't much of a penalty there. Getting good conditions is nice, but you have to be there to take advantage of them. It must be a blast to drive!!!
It's nice to see this come together in time to rip off some great runs before the season ends. The project was cool to watch come together, and will be a force next year for sure. I get the feeling there is a bit left in that beast of yours yet.:thumbsup: :burnout:

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by Revhard
Congrats Ron!!!!
The less MPH is more likely due to traction and hook-up on the clutch.
Clutch slipping on the line is like wheelspin, always gives you a false mph.
The weather was perfect too really. Edmonton is an awesome track, the cold air isn't much of a penalty there. Getting good conditions is nice, but you have to be there to take advantage of them. It must be a blast to drive!!!
It's nice to see this come together in time to rip off some great runs before the season ends. The project was cool to watch come together, and will be a force next year for sure. I get the feeling there is a bit left in that beast of yours yet.:thumbsup: :burnout:

Most of my lost Mph I think was switching the night before from 4 1600cc inj to 8 1600cc inj and not having enough time to get the AFR right. I had the first set of 1600cc maxed out already. I was mid to high 9 AFR on that pass compared to 11's on the same boost on my 151Mph pass.

[Ron@Revolution]

Here is a little compilation I did up of the car on the dyno and track. Best Mph this year was 151Mph, best ET was 9.8. Both runs were done on only 28Psi. Considering since switching to staged injectors, and E85 the car has only made a handful of passes I'm very happy and excited to see what next year brings. Thanks to all my sponsors and friends and family. Be safe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNEqyEsN-P4

[Redlyne_jr]

This is just insane, Congrats on the Personal best!!! who did you acquire your E85 from if you dont mind me asking? :poosie:

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by ~Porsche~
This is just insane, Congrats on the Personal best!!! who did you acquire your E85 from if you dont mind me asking? :poosie:

I bring it in for myself and my customers. Ron

[Redlyne_mr2]

E85 at the pumps would be so much fun... what are your winter plans?

[Ron@Revolution]

I have some plans but nothing concrete yet, obviously switching out to some DSS Stage 5 axles. And a general cleaning up and a good possibility or a switch to a different displacement short block but not sure yet.

[blackpeople]

Does this car have a manual steering rack now?

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by blackpeople
Does this car have a manual steering rack now?

No there is no manual rack for 2G's.

[Ron@Revolution]

Well since my stock rear axles gave up the ghost after tons of 11, 10 and 9 second passes I figured it was time to setup to the big time. DSS Stage 5 Axle and hub kit :spend: Hopefully these should take the abuse of more power when I start to turn the wick up on the Talon.

http://talongt66.4t.com/axles.JPG

[ekguy]

Just a random question. Since Edmonton is still quite a bit above sea level, how much more power do you think you'd have at a sea level? It would make a noticeable difference on a car like this wouldn't it?

[Ron@Revolution]

Originally posted by ekguy
Just a random question. Since Edmonton is still quite a bit above sea level, how much more power do you think you'd have at a sea level? It would make a noticeable difference on a car like this wouldn't it?

Oh for sure I would love to get to Mission B.C this year once I get the car tuned on some higher boost and go for some really fast Mph and ET's.:thumbsup: I'm guessing for sure a couple tenths and 2-3Mph from what it would do in Ed or Calgary.