91 civic won't start

[japplan]

to the point.
girlfriends car wont start.
no spark.
Replaced cap, rotor and coil.
still nothing. Wanted to take out the ignition module to get it tested, screws are stripped. and its cold out.
Is there any way I can test it myself??

Or should i try something else?

Thanks

[sr20s14zenki]

Is there fuel? No spark directly off the coil? if so, most likely ignition module....get those screws out dood.


or what buddy said below (=

take the cap off, and turn the car over, make sure the rotor is spinning.

[Eken9]

Sounds like what happend to my friends old accord. We tried everything you listed. Turns out it was the timing belt?:dunno: Hope you get that fixed, broken cars suck.

[japplan]

Yes rotor is spinning. Yes there is fuel. Danm screws!!
Yeahh i hope its not the timming belt.
Thanks guys.

[sr20s14zenki]

If the rotor is spinning, its not the timing belt

[japplan]

lol guess soo.

[japplan]

So can i test it myself or do i need to take it to a parts store?

[sr20s14zenki]

I dont think you can test it yourself....maybe autovalue can test it?

they close in like 20 mins tho haha

[japplan]

yeah i dont plan on getting it out tonight. because of those screws. And another piss off, stupid security Torx bits. tons of tools and its one size to big.
bought one today. try tomorrow.

[johnboy27]

Check the main relay. It is located in the drivers side footwell. Take the kick panel off right next to your left foot. You'll be able to recognize it when you see it. Black box witha wiring harness attached to it. Unplug it and try another one. If it fires up then you found your problem. If you are handy with repairing electronics then you could actually fix it yourself. Apparnetly the cold solder joints go bad on them. Just resolder them and all is fixed.

[japplan]

cap, rotor, coil, ignition mod, all repalced.
Still no spark??

[G-ZUS]

Check the main relay, also check the fuses under the dash. With my old Civic, I blew 1 of the IGN fuses(2 of them), got no spark, changed the distributor, cap, wires, plugs, nothing work until I changed that fuse.

[japplan]

i checked all the fuses, but i think the ign fuse on this car is under the hood. either way its good.
but i dont know where the main relay is. i know its up near the fuse box in and around there but cant find it. maybe its somewhere else?

[G-ZUS]

It should be around there somewhere, in both my civics and integras it was there. its a gray box

[japplan]

ill go look again.

[G-ZUS]

Originally posted by japplan
ill go look again.

My bad, it is black not gray, here is what it looks like

http://img.eautopartscatalog.com/live/P203659956OEA.JPG

[japplan]

yeah i know what it looks like, i found it on my 93. but i cant find it on the 91.
on the 93 it actually is grey.

[G-ZUS]

Try looking a bit further up

[japplan]

k found it. there is like a black peice of plastic that its encased in. well just surrounding it.

so can i use the one from my 93 to test it?

[G-ZUS]

see if they are both the same #, if they are then yes

[89s1]

if you're 100% sure there is fuel getin to the motor its not the main relay. that main relay controls the fuel pump and ECU.

[japplan]

im 100 percent sure there is no spark.
then whats my prolem now.

[89s1]

its likely the ignitor or the coil (parts in the distributer)

if you've got a friend with the same car test his dizzy on your car.

[japplan]

But like i said ive replaced the cap, rotor, coil, ignition mod.:guns:

[sr20s14zenki]

Did you check the wires going to the ignition module for a short?

another thing, find the computer,see if theres power getting to the ecu by trying to pull codes, troublecodes.net will show you how. Maybe a code will lead you in the right direction too.

[ibcinya]

Try another ecu.. how many blinks is it giving off, look at the red light on the ecu and let us know what it is saying..

[johnboy27]

Originally posted by 89s1
its likely the ignitor or the coil (parts in the distributer)

if you've got a friend with the same car test his dizzy on your car.
Try what this guy is saying. It will likely solve your problem.