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Tik-Tok
03-21-2008, 03:57 PM
By Alex Johnson
Reporter
MSNBC
updated 12:12 a.m. MT, Fri., March. 21, 2008

Last week, Dallas officials reviewed the numbers and decided that a quarter of the cameras they had installed to catch motorists running red lights were too effective. So they shut them down.

They are not alone. Faced with data showing that drivers pay attention to cameras at intersections — resulting in fewer ticketable violations and ever-shrinking revenue from fines — municipalities across the country are reconsidering red light cameras, which often work too well.

At the heart of the discussions taking place in city councils and county commissions is tension between the twin benefits that were touted when local governments began installing cameras about a decade and a half ago. Officials were promised that the cameras — which take snapshots of busy intersections, capturing the license plates of any cars that are running the light — would simultaneously save lives and generate millions of dollars in extra fines.

The first half of that equation is arguably true: A federal study found a small but measurable reduction in injuries nationwide in accidents at intersections monitored by cameras, though there was an increase in some kinds of collisions.

It is the second half of the equation that may be beginning to collapse. As drivers learn where the cameras are, they are more careful. Fewer of them run red lights. Local governments collect fewer fines.

Fewer violations = less revenue
Sometimes, as in Dallas, cameras generate so little revenue that they can’t even pay for themselves.

Citywide statistics obtained by NBC affiliate KXAS-TV found that red light cameras do reduce accidents. That is a good thing.

But they do it by reducing red light violations, by as much as 29 percent from month to month at particularly busy Dallas intersections. On the face of it, that, too, is a good thing — but not, necessarily, if you rely on traffic fines to make up a healthy chunk of your budget.

Dallas lawmakers originally estimated gross revenue of $15 million from their 62 cameras this fiscal year, which ends June 30. But City Manager Mary Suhm estimated last week that the city would fall short by more than $4 million.

So last week, the city turned off about a quarter of the least profitable cameras, saying it couldn’t justify the cost of running them.

More to story, and source (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23710970/)

BrknFngrs
03-21-2008, 03:59 PM
:rofl: :rofl: This just made my afternoon

4lti7ude
03-21-2008, 04:03 PM
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Get rid of those cameras

98type_r
03-21-2008, 04:51 PM
Doesn't seem to be the case locally though, red light camera revenue increases year over year.

LilDrunkenSmurf
03-21-2008, 04:53 PM
Calgary drivers don't learn.

Rocky
03-21-2008, 05:02 PM
Pretty sad. Just goes to prove that speeding tickets and all those bs fines are in fact financially based and not safety based. "Well, our cameras seem to be reducing fatalities, but since we're not cashing in let's get rid of them". Stupid.

TomcoPDR
03-21-2008, 05:03 PM
Sounds like a good excuse for Bronco to be expensing some $$$ to head down to Dallas for some red light camera equipment.

Eleanor
03-23-2008, 10:17 AM
Originally posted by 98type_r
Doesn't seem to be the case locally though, red light camera revenue increases year over year.

Source?