Bmw E36 M3 Yakk!

[Fluidic]

Ok... so I decided to make a new thread to discuss what everyone knows about the E36 M3`. Anyone who knows anything about these prestige vehicles -- please chime in. :)

This is pretty yummy -- stock too! :D

1998 BMW E36 M3 w/ 70,000KM (not that bad)

http://media.canadatrader.com/companies/2587/items/normal/uirfm9lfv11060270199593.jpg

Selling price of $33,000. Maybe I can talk him down to $30,000 even. What's a good asking price for an M3 in "good-shape" with this many KM?

Peter

[Fluidic]

Oh... and I took the advice of the wise Max_Boost and I found this baby in British Columbia. Damn... so much cheaper then in Alberta! lol :D

Peter

[Fluidic]

Just yummy. The Dakar Yellow M3's are SO HOT!

Peter

[lammer]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
Just yummy. The Dakar Yellow M3's are SO HOT!

Peter

theres one rolling around on 19inch chromies. its low. like i mean very low haha.

[Fluidic]

I'm going to make the phone call tomorrow... maybe take a WestJet trip down and say hello! :)

Peter

[ACS-e36]

yo man! 30 g is a GOOD deal! and that color looks AMAGING!!!! i usually see most of the later model M3's like that at bout 40g+ish

cough cough OBD1 conversion! cough

[ACS-e36]

what u wanna know...... ? just ask

[Hakkola]

Yeah, OBD1 is the best if your going to do mods, but last year of it was 95, which I don't think we got in Canada. How much does the conversion cost?

[ACS-e36]

it shouldnt cost tooo much... all you have todo is find parts from pre 95 e36 models (intake manifold, OBD1 wiring harness) . and yes they did sell the 95 OBD1 M3 here.

[D'z Nutz]

Find out if the water pump's been changed or not on any E36's as they near 100,000 KM. Reason being that they were made out of plastic from the factory and usually after 100K, they kinda fall apart. You should've seen the piece of shit on my car when it went. If it hasn't been change, it's probably a good idea to get it changed before it becomes a necessity along with the thermostat. If you hunt around for parts, the water pump *I think* only costs around like $110-130 and the thermostat's like $20-30.

I've read that O2 sensors go around that mileage too (mine did). About $130 (fucken RIP OFF!!).

And don't take it to Calgary BMW :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

[Dave P]

:thumbsup:

[bosa]

Damn Dave P! That BMW is nice. :drool:

Peter, if you do decide on buying an M3, will you be selling your Jetta?

[Fluidic]

Originally posted by bosa
Peter, if you do decide on buying an M3, will you be selling your Jetta?

Yep. :)

Selling it all together (all my mods) -- or parting it out... then selling "almost" stock. :thumbsup:

Peter

[Super_Geo]

DaveP,

Fuckin' nice sig ;) :thumbsup:

Too bad it's not actually Kristin Kreuk..... :(

[ACS-e36]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Find out if the water pump's been changed or not on any E36's as they near 100,000 KM. Reason being that they were made out of plastic from the factory and usually after 100K, they kinda fall apart. You should've seen the piece of shit on my car when it went. If it hasn't been change, it's probably a good idea to get it changed before it becomes a necessity along with the thermostat. If you hunt around for parts, the water pump *I think* only costs around like $110-130 and the thermostat's like $20-30.

I've read that O2 sensors go around that mileage too (mine did). About $130 (fucken RIP OFF!!).

And don't take it to Calgary BMW :thumbsdow :thumbsdow

yeah once you get over 100 000km things go wrong so its best to get them replaced before a nightmare happens
things that need replacing:
- radiator (only good for bout 150 000ish km)
- water pump
- replace plastic impellar with a metal one (plastic will crack eventually)
- ball joints and tie rods (if the car becomes shakey when turning, replace ASAP)
- rear shock mounts (if you decide to lower the car, replace at this time. they wear out and you will hear a knocking sound from the rear)
- you dont need to replace O2 sensors till the light comes on or untill mileage is down allot. oh yeah OBD2 cars have 4 o2 sensors so its gonna cost you bout 500+ to replace them all OUCH

[bosa]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital


Yep. :)

Selling it all together (all my mods) -- or parting it out... then selling "almost" stock. :thumbsup:

Peter

Well I hope it all works out for the best (get the blue - looks rad). :)

But if you do decide on buying an M3, then whats going to happen with newveedub.com? :dunno:

[Fluidic]

I'll still run it! :D ;)

[max_boost]

Yah man
BC Rocks!
I still love the E36M3, it was my dream car for so long. Supercharge that thing! haha

[syeve]

one of the only cars I ve raced in my RSX...got my ass handed to me..so wicked car in my books!!

[E36M3]

The 98 might have a metal impeller water pump, depending on the build date, so be sure to check for that.

The radiator on the M3 will be fine, don't worry about it. The only way you will torch the radiator is if you don't replace the water pump, which will fail.

Get the rear shock mounts replaced with a better set, the OEM M3 ones suck and will need to be replaced every 50k+ km. You will hear a rattle in the rear suspension if they are toast. Make sure to have them inspected, as damage can occur if they aren't replaced in a timely manner.

The front guibo should be replaced, or at the very least carefully inspected.

Try to find a car that has run Mobil 1 from birth.. synthetic oil is a requirement to me in an engine with that kind of load being placed on it.

Get an XBrace installed (they are OEM parts, and come stock on the convertible models). This will improve handling, turn-in and stability and increase the life of the suspension.

Other than that, they are bulletproof and it is hard to go wrong. Pay particular attention to the clutch, as it is expensive to replace, so if you are buying one without a good one, you are going to be sorry. My clutch went for 150k miles (yes miles) and was still perfect.

The 96-99 cars are ODB-II, but they are also 3.2L vs. 3.0L so they have a bit more torque to make up for the tunability issue. If you are going to modify engine in any significant way, you may want to import a 95 from the U.S., or find a 94 in Canada (good luck). There are several OBDII turbo kits and chips available now, so it isn't as big of an issue, but make sure to research that decision in advance.

Make sure to swap out the transmission fluid with redline synthetic.. it will make you much happier.

[ninefourfour]

Fluidic if that is the same car and I am 99% sure....I saw it ans it is a nice car...line are clean and all but did you ask for its history? the guy told me it had been in a front end collision which was not too bad...I thought ok not too bad....saw the car and the lines are still clean, the car is in good shape....Dinan intake and chip so he said...I was thinking it is a great deal even with the collision...then he wouldn't let me take it to a garage to get it checked(he's also a BMW mechanic) as you can see the cars around he only has older cars except this one...then I thought that the guy has to be desperate to sell it that cheap...I second guessed it and did a carfax report....you'll find out that its has five hits...its from ontario and now has a title of REBUILT/SALVAGE...this is probably why its about 10g's cheaper than the others...its tempting but whats the next guy going to say when you go and sell it...

[Fluidic]

I found this BMW (the one we are speaking about) in B.C.

I'm still thinking about an M3... I just got back from test driving a 1998 BMW 328is.

Peter

[Boostn]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
I found this BMW (the one we are speaking about) in B.C.

I'm still thinking about an M3... I just got back from test driving a 1998 BMW 328is.

Peter

The E36 M3's are nice but the E46 is even better. Have you looked into picking up one of those?

[Fluidic]

I'm not interested in an E46 right now... I have always had a thing for the E36 model years and I actually prefer the "older" styling to the new. :)

Peter

[ACS-e36]

of course the e46 m3 is better! thats a given $$$$

[Fluidic]

Yah... money is always a concern... sure someone can go out and buy a Ferrari... but do they have enough left over for gas money?

Get an E46 M3 if you have that kind of disposable income. If you don't... keep searching! :D

Peter

[Boostn]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
Yah... money is always a concern... sure someone can go out and buy a Ferrari... but do they have enough left over for gas money?

Get an E46 M3 if you have that kind of disposable income. If you don't... keep searching! :D

Peter

I hear ya... ;) just assumed you were rich.

[Fluidic]

Far from it my friend... I would be selling my Jetta to afford this kind of payment. :)

Peter

[Dj_Stylz]

Hell Yea M3 Rocks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I really Like the new E46
http://www.dtmpower.net/ppost2/data/501/871275432_96_full.jpg
http://www.dtmpower.net/ppost2/data/501/871275432_98_full.jpg
http://www.dtmpower.net/ppost2/data/501/1009370dsc00829-med.jpg

[Fluidic]

Ok. So here's the beast I test drove today. Not bad... a few rattles... but nothing "abnormal". What DID strike me as strange is why they repainted the hood. Guess it was so badly "chipped" they sprung to have it painted.

It didn't have the full computer system thingy. It just had like temp and time, and all that. I really crave the full multi-use computer where it tells you your speed... and if you are exceeding your "preset" limit.

Oh well...

Peter

[Ben]

wont your insurance be astronomical on that car with your driving record? (e36m3)

TD wants 4000 from me for an S4 and marginally more for an M3, and you've got a write off under your belt and you're younger.

[Fluidic]

Originally posted by Ben
wont your insurance be astronomical on that car with your driving record? (e36m3)

TD wants 4000 from me for an S4 and marginally more for an M3, and you've got a write off under your belt and you're younger.

Well... I'm looking at an E36 BMW 328is... it's considerbly lower (insurance wise) then the E36 M3. Yes I've had a "write-off" -- but it was no-fault - act of god. So it's not nearly as high as it COULD be if I had hit someone or something and written my car off.

The funny thing is the E36 328is insurance is cheaper then what I'm paying now.

Peter

[Ben]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital



The funny thing is the E36 328is insurance is cheaper then what I'm paying now.

Peter

Older Lesser Car :)

[Fluidic]

I'm assuming your non to happy with my idea of going to the dark side... eh dude? You should have come with me... it rode nice... felt like I was in Bol's Bimmer again... grumble.brumble.grumble!!! VROOOM!

Peter

[Ben]

hell, I could care less what you buy, just seems like a waste to blow all the time/money/effort you put into your Jetta and buy a car that is WAY more expensive to modify and maintain...but hey, I may be in the market for a new car too where I'll be "moving over to the dark side" so y'never know ;) :D Keep us posted.

[Fluidic]

Right on man. I wouldn't be leaving Volkswagen... like I would still attend meets and stuff... and of course run NewVeeDub... I'd just be cruising on a different wave length. Like AM and FM! lol

Peter

[Redlyne_mr2]

Save some cash for an m3...screw getting a normal bimmer..hell get an e30 m3 if you dont have enough cash..or just keep the jetta

[Fluidic]

AWWW!!! I'm so boggled. I like my Jetta so much... and it's, well... "very" tuneable. Is tuneable even a word?! lol

Peter

[ACS-e36]

if you get an e30 m3 youll have to spend quite a bit of time and $$$ just to restore it and they are hard to find and interior is very outdated. as far as tunability goes... both the 328 and jetta have great potential, but modding a bimmer does cost a bit much for the goodies.

[three.eighteen.]

i wouldnt daily drive an e30 m3, its too precious

but yeah 3.2 M3, OBD-I...mod away...

i heard the 94 m3s we got in canada have the euro engine? can anyone verify/falsify?

[RiceCake]

Originally posted by ACS-e36
if you get an e30 m3 youll have to spend quite a bit of time and $$$ just to restore it and they are hard to find and interior is very outdated. as far as tunability goes... both the 328 and jetta have great potential, but modding a bimmer does cost a bit much for the goodies.

I know of a 1991 E30 M3 for sale and the thing is a baby... no restoration needed... ODO reads 25 000km and the car is mint in and out :hitit: :drool: :drool: PM me if you want the guy's contact info :)

[ACS-e36]

Originally posted by three.eighteen.
i wouldnt daily drive an e30 m3, its too precious

but yeah 3.2 M3, OBD-I...mod away...

i heard the 94 m3s we got in canada have the euro engine? can anyone verify/falsify?

nope... north america didnt get 94 m3's 95 was first year

[ACS-e36]

oh yeah how was the 328 compared to your jetta?

[three.eighteen.]

canada got m3s in 94...when europe got them...which means its possible that we got a european model in 94, but i kinda doubt it

and whats faster 1.8T or the 328?

[ACS-e36]

naw we never not the euro cuz the emissions were to high and europe got the first of the m3's with 286bhp in 92 and then designed a new engine for the US that began to sell in 95 with the 240bhp

[GTS Jeff]

How about keeping your Jetta and possibly learning to drive it too?

[Fluidic]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
How about keeping your Jetta and possibly learning to drive it too?

You have become evil lately... what's wrong?

Peter

[max_boost]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
How about keeping your Jetta and possibly learning to drive it too? Coming from someone who drives a POS corolla, I don't think you know how to drive your car either. what did you run? 17 secs with that special motor swap?:rofl:

[max_boost]

And yes
E36M3's were available in 94. 286hp Euro version.

I saw a black one going for $40K with 40K kms in Ontario awhile back. Very tempting at the time! haha Actually, all cars are tempting

[ACS-e36]

wow really?! damn i should hunt one down!!!

[Boostn]

Originally posted by max_boost
And yes
E36M3's were available in 94. 286hp Euro version.

I saw a black one going for $40K with 40K kms in Ontario awhile back. Very tempting at the time! haha Actually, all cars are tempting

Yes but from what I understand there were only a very limited amount (94 euro spec M3s) imported by BMW Canada. Somewhere around 45-50 I believe.. the funny thing is that the US got none.

[max_boost]

Originally posted by Boostn


Yes but from what I understand there were only a very limited amount (94 euro spec M3s) imported by BMW Canada. Somewhere around 45-50 I believe.. the funny thing is that the US got none. Yah I think there was 40

[E36M3]

Yes. The Canadian 94s (the U.S. didn't get them) had the Euro spec I6. Canada didn't get the 95 M3s (buy the U.S. did)


Originally posted by three.eighteen.
i wouldnt daily drive an e30 m3, its too precious

but yeah 3.2 M3, OBD-I...mod away...

i heard the 94 m3s we got in canada have the euro engine? can anyone verify/falsify?

[Altezza]

Originally posted by three.eighteen.
i wouldnt daily drive an e30 m3, its too precious


My old boss had one of those amongst his collection. I used to drive it all the time. That was one of the funnest cars I've ever driven. I'd recommend one to anybody.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by max_boost
Coming from someone who drives a POS corolla, I don't think you know how to drive your car either. what did you run? 17 secs with that special motor swap?:rofl: or maybe there was a huge hole in my intake tubing and the car wasnt running properly and u in fact have no idea how well i drive. or maybe im just a shitty driver...who knows.

[Fluidic]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
and u in fact have no idea how well i drive.

... and you are making these very same claims about my driving skills. Shut the fuck up Jeff... once you become super-pro-driver -- then come talk to me.

Peter

[Abom]

Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
... and you are making these very same claims about my driving skills. Shut the fuck up Jeff... once you become super-pro-driver -- then come talk to me.


:werd:

[Fluidic]

I request that this thread be closed.

BOOM!!