*RANT WARNING* Carline muffler going downhill

[The Cosworth]

I used to take all my cars to Carline muffler in the NE for work on my car. They had a good group of techs working there and the work was always inexpensive, well done, and always sounded/behaved the way Rick (the owner) said it would.

I have had four cars worked on there

- 1982 Celica/Supra
- 1993 Ford Escort
- 1991 Toyota Camry
- 2008 Lancer


Most were cat backs but the escort also had a 'test pipe' installed. Never had a complaint of ANY of these cars.




When I moved back from BC I got to work straight away on my 2008 Mitsu Lancer. Second thing I did after an Intake was the exhaust at carline.

First the quote came in at $170.00 which I thought was reasonable for the work I was getting done (an axle back)

When he went to give me the keys it came in around $220.00, and told me it was because it needed a bit extra fiddling to work it out. Fair enough. A couple weeks later I was fiddling with the silencer it came with it and I couldn't get the silencer out that came with it, I went back to the store where one of the young new techs pulled on my exhaust with a pair of pliers. It eventually came out with a big metal part on the end of the silencer which was obviously what was holding it on. I asked the guy to grind it down and put it back on for me. He did and i left

About two weeks later I was driving home from canmore after a day of scrambling when my exhaust is putting along and all of a sudden gets really loud. I look in the read view mirror out of a reaction, and see my silencer bouncing down the highway. Damn I though

I go into the shop a week or so later and explain the situation, I was told that it would cost $70.00 to make one and it wouldnt be made out of stainless so it wont match the exhaust, and there is no way to order a new one. I leave angry

Today I finally have enough with no silencer and go back to the shop again where his son Cam helps me out after waiting for 30 minutes and the other techs coming out, talking to me, then wandering back into the shop. He tells me that the muffler that was on my bill is not what is on my car. :eek: I ask does that mean I paid more than I should have and he profusly denies it.

I finally argue down a $175.00 new muffler (Rick said $175.00, his son Cam said $220.00 :nut: ) to $150.00 installed (the one that was supposed to be installed in the first place).

I went for a spin this afternoon to hear it (i dont drive to work) and it was making this funny whirling noise (I already new what it was) so I parked and sure enough the weld on TOP of the connection point isn't done properly and is leaking. :whipped:



All I can say is that I have now paid almost $400.00 for an axle back exhaust and wasted probably 6 or 7 hours out of my last few months getting a MUFFLER put on.

Something else to note is that Rick (the owner) has very rarely been around when this was happening, and the next youngest person in th shop is in their early/mid twenties.

[luxor]

What are you even rambling about, this is all YOUR OWN fault! You have no one else to blame but yourself and not only that you accuse them of giving you the wrong product haha. If you would've left even thing alone then none of the aftermath would've occurred. Somebody close this useless thread.

:drama:

[The Cosworth]

^^ what?


left what alone, did you even read it?

[luxor]

Originally posted by brendankharris
I used to take all my cars to Carline muffler in the NE for work on my car. They had a good group of techs working there and the work was always inexpensive, well done, and always sounded/behaved the way Rick (the owner) said it would.

I have had four cars worked on there

- 1982 Celica/Supra
- 1993 Ford Escort
- 1991 Toyota Camry
- 2008 Lancer


Most were cat backs but the escort also had a 'test pipe' installed. Never had a complaint of ANY of these cars.




When I moved back from BC I got to work straight away on my 2008 Mitsu Lancer. Second thing I did after an Intake was the exhaust at carline.

First the quote came in at $170.00 which I thought was reasonable for the work I was getting done (an axle back)

When he went to give me the keys it came in around $220.00, and told me it was because it needed a bit extra fiddling to work it out. Fair enough. A couple weeks later I was fiddling with the silencer it came with it and I couldn't get the silencer out that came with it, I went back to the store where one of the young new techs pulled on my exhaust with a pair of pliers. It eventually came out with a big metal part on the end of the silencer which was obviously what was holding it on. I asked the guy to grind it down and put it back on for me. He did and i left

About two weeks later I was driving home from canmore after a day of scrambling when my exhaust is putting along and all of a sudden gets really loud. I look in the read view mirror out of a reaction, and see my silencer bouncing down the highway. Damn I though

I go into the shop a week or so later and explain the situation, I was told that it would cost $70.00 to make one and it wouldnt be made out of stainless so it wont match the exhaust, and there is no way to order a new one. I leave angry

Today I finally have enough with no silencer and go back to the shop again where his son Cam helps me out after waiting for 30 minutes and the other techs coming out, talking to me, then wandering back into the shop. He tells me that the muffler that was on my bill is not what is on my car. :eek: I ask does that mean I paid more than I should have and he profusly denies it.

I finally argue down a $175.00 new muffler (Rick said $175.00, his son Cam said $220.00 :nut: ) to $150.00 installed (the one that was supposed to be installed in the first place).

I went for a spin this afternoon to hear it (i dont drive to work) and it was making this funny whirling noise (I already new what it was) so I parked and sure enough the weld on TOP of the connection point isn't done properly and is leaking. :whipped:



All I can say is that I have now paid almost $400.00 for an axle back exhaust and wasted probably 6 or 7 hours out of my last few months getting a MUFFLER put on.

Something else to note is that Rick (the owner) has very rarely been around when this was happening, and the next youngest person in th shop is in their early/mid twenties.

Let me see if i got this right then...

It all started when you had to fuck with the silencer but it wouldn't budge so you went to Carline and got the tech to grind it down at your request.

Your silencer falls off.

You go back to get a new one and it would've cost you $70 for a non matching one so you don't buy it.

You go back again for a new muffler that would cost you $150 installed. The test drive reveals a simple mistake in welding that Carline would've gladly fixed for you.

Now you come on beyond trying to bash Carline for your own fuck up and trying to blame Carline for wasting your $400 and 7 or 8 hours?

Doesn't sound like Carline is "going downhill". I just read: i'm a whiny bitch.

Does that sound about right? correcet me if you think i'm wrong. You shouldn't have touched the silencer to begin with and you wouldn't have had to spend that money and waste your time. Again YOUR OWN FAULT!

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by luxor


Let me see if i got this right then...

It all started when you had to fuck with the silencer but it wouldn't budge so you went to Carline and got the tech to grind it down at your request.

Your silencer falls off.

You go back to get a new one and it would've cost you $70 for a non matching one so you don't buy it.

You go back again for a new muffler that would cost you $150 installed. The test drive reveals a simple mistake in welding that Carline would've gladly fixed for you.

Now you come on beyond trying to bash Carline for your own fuck up and trying to blame Carline for wasting your $400 and 7 or 8 hours?

Doesn't sound like Carline is "going downhill". I just read: i'm a whiny bitch.

Does that sound about right? correcet me if you think i'm wrong. You shouldn't have touched the silencer to begin with and you wouldn't have had to spend that money and waste your time. Again YOUR OWN FAULT!


isnt the point of a bolt on silencer within the muffler to UNBOLT AND COME OFF?!?!?


I dunno, maybe it is just me but I expect things to work when I purchase them. I am just saying that compared to the service I used to get there (when I was under 20 and would be seen as a punk by other places) they treated me with respect and this NEVER would have gotten to this point. But now it is just not that way it is anymore.

Edit: It seems as though the bolt fell off after the silencer was put back in, hence why it fell off.

FUck your pissing me off


http://www.mufflermall.com/images/mufflers/rs101.JPG

[TomcoPDR]

:drama:

[jibber]

I'm gonna go grab some popcorn, because both luxor and bkh have valid points. I agree with both of you.

bkh: I agree Carline in the NE has been going downhill. I used to only be able to get my exhaust work done on Saturdays, mainly because I wanted to wait with the car in case they needed me there to show me something. Carline NE was my shop of choice. They are no longer open on Saturdays, so I stopped going there. The shop I now use and recommend is Rapid Brake and Muffler, 5720 1st St. S.W. (it's tough to find their new place but it's in the yard behind the Corvette shop).

I also agree with Luxor. You stated that the silencer had to be pulled out with pliers and when it came out, it came with some metal that "was obviously what was holding it on". You asked the tech to grind off the metal and put it back. I'm not surprised that the silencer fell out after that, because the part that was holding it in had been removed. Unless there's some clarification needed here, this is what I read as well.

I can't comment on the muffler, however. I always supplied them with all my own mufflers and simply had them do the installation.

EDIT: After this post made it online, you added the integral fact about the silencer bolt falling out. That was the clarifying point I was interested in. Thank you.

[The Cosworth]

It looked like weld drip that wasn't cleaned up. It pretty much welded the silencer inside the exhaust.

The silencer is supposed to be held into the muffler by the bolts. I dont know for sure but I would bet that the bolts were not tightened sufficiently, when the tech put it back on. Then today he told one of the guys I asked him to MODIFY the exhaust, when I mentioned what I asked him to do, take the weld drip off and bolt it back on, he looked at me puzzled.

As I have stated (3 times now) Rick is a good guy and I would still trust HIM with my car, it is just the young guys with no supervision that is pissing me off.


Sorry I didnt explain that better, a rant is just that, a rant. Grammer and clarity be damned :nut:

[TurboD]

its not the shops fault you didnt use thread lock on the silencer bolt.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by TurboD
its not the shops fault you didnt use thread lock on the silencer bolt.

I DIDNT PUT THE FUCKING SILENCER OR BOLTS BACK ON, THE SHOP DID

[IntegraG2]

sorry to hear about your mishap. Hopefully they eventually look after you. I have been to carline ever since I have owned a car and I have never had a problem. Good luck

[Weapon_R]

its your fault for being a ricer

[TurboD]

the shop can't control what kind of vibrations your exhaust system is getting, a silencer is worth 5$ on ebay, suck it up and fix it yourself, you should have kept a closer eye on it.

maybe if you didnt tell them to grind it down it would have stayed in properly off the bat.

maybe you should have spent more money off the hop and got a higher quality pre made exhaust for your brand new car, instead of cheaping out and having a small time muffler shop make one.

next time either save up for a quality exhaust, or dont buy a car that leaves you too broke to afford quality mods.

edit: ricer :thumbsdow

[jibber]

Originally posted by brendankharris


Sorry I didnt explain that better, a rant is just that, a rant. Grammer and clarity be damned :nut:

That's the kind of mindset that starts these kind of arguments on beyond :D

That's also why I always preview my posts to make sure I give them each a quick once-over so the message I want to convey is presented properly.

[sr20s14zenki]

I wasnt aware that anybody even used the silencers that came with those. Just out of curiosity....why would you buy a tuned exhaust, and then throw a silencer on it.......seems kind of defeating the purpose to me......dont you buy a tuned exhaust accepting the fact that its going to be louder than stock? If you wanted a quiet exhaust, why didnt you leave the stock piece on....

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by Weapon_R
its your fault for being a ricer

see that is the kind of comment I needed. A good laugh!



Originally posted by TurboD
the shop can't control what kind of vibrations your exhaust system is getting, a silencer is worth 5$ on ebay, suck it up and fix it yourself, you should have kept a closer eye on it.

maybe if you didnt tell them to grind it down it would have stayed in properly off the bat.

maybe you should have spent more money off the hop and got a higher quality pre made exhaust for your brand new car, instead of cheaping out and having a small time muffler shop make one.

edit: ricer :thumbsdow


I hear what your saying but I feel I have to mention it 1 more time:

The weld drip that was there (damn I wish I had a picture) was not supposed to be there and was in no way suppoed to hold the silencer in.

As for the silencer, the shop said they couldnt order another one, the ones at canadian tire fit the canadian tire exhaust, and I couldnt find anything with the proper bolt pattern on ebay. Trust me I tried.

Which one should I have purchased, the non existent Greddy kit? the Injen kit that melts the bumper, or the RRM exhaust that is made by a muffler shop.



Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


That's the kind of mindset that starts these kind of arguments on beyond :D

That's also why I always preview my posts to make sure I give them each a quick once-over so the message I want to convey is presented properly.

yeah I cant be myself on here if I dont make an ass of myself every once and a while





Originally posted by sr20s14zenki
I wasnt aware that anybody even used the silencers that came with those. Just out of curiosity....why would you buy a tuned exhaust, and then throw a silencer on it.......seems kind of defeating the purpose to me......dont you buy a tuned exhaust accepting the fact that its going to be louder than stock? If you wanted a quiet exhaust, why didnt you leave the stock piece on....

YAY A REAL QUESTION :clap: haha


I do a lot of driving for work, and because my car is geared short I run around 3500/4000 rpm on the highway. So when I go out of town for work I put it in, otherwise I usually run without it.

[luxor]

Originally posted by brendankharris


Edit: It seems as though the bolts fell off after the silencer was put back in, hence why it fell off.

FUck your pissing me off


http://www.mufflermall.com/images/mufflers/rs101.JPG

LOL

So according to that pic BOTH bolt that seem to be held by nuts came off??? yeah right buddy you told the tech to grind down the "big metal part on the end of the silencer which was obviously what was holding it on."

I sense moronism and all i can do now is laugh at you.

[jibber]

Originally posted by sr20s14zenki
I wasnt aware that anybody even used the silencers that came with those. Just out of curiosity....why would you buy a tuned exhaust, and then throw a silencer on it.......seems kind of defeating the purpose to me......dont you buy a tuned exhaust accepting the fact that its going to be louder than stock? If you wanted a quiet exhaust, why didnt you leave the stock piece on....

He didn't get any kind of tuned exhaust put on the car, he simply had the muffler changed. This doesn't really create any more horsepower (but every little bit helps), but it definately changes the sound the car makes, whether it be the tone and/or the volume.

For an audiophile like myself, I would definately spend a couple bills to make my car sound the way I want it because I would procure more pleasure from driving the car. Even if it went no faster at all.

[TeamBestBud]

You should have took it to Calgary Muffler. :)


Originally posted by TurboD
the shop can't control what kind of vibrations your exhaust system is getting, a silencer is worth 5$ on ebay, suck it up and fix it yourself, you should have kept a closer eye on it.

maybe if you didnt tell them to grind it down it would have stayed in properly off the bat.

maybe you should have spent more money off the hop and got a higher quality pre made exhaust for your brand new car, instead of cheaping out and having a small time muffler shop make one.

next time either save up for a quality exhaust, or dont buy a car that leaves you too broke to afford quality mods.

edit: ricer :thumbsdow

Carline isn't a "small time" muffler shop and regardless, does that give them the right to not give a fuck about what kind of work they are putting out? I haven't dealt with any other muffler shop other than Calgary Muffler and Allan takes care of any issues I have had no questions asked.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by luxor


LOL

So according to that pic BOTH bolt that seem to be held by nuts came off??? yeah right buddy you told the tech to grind down the "big metal part on the end of the silencer which was obviously what was holding it on."

I sense moronism and all i can do now is laugh at you.

Last time I quote you and comment on something.

My muffler had 1 bolt, this one was the closest one that came up on google images when I typed in muffler bolt silencer.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


He didn't get any kind of tuned exhaust put on the car, he simply had the muffler changed. This doesn't really create any more horsepower (but every little bit helps), but it definately changes the sound the car makes, whether it be the tone and/or the volume.

For an audiophile like myself, I would definately spend a couple bills to make my car sound the way I want it because I would procure more pleasure from driving the car. Even if it went no faster at all. spoken like a true ricer. no wonder you're defending the OP.

[jibber]

Originally posted by luxor


LOL

So according to that pic BOTH bolt that seem to be held by nuts came off??? yeah right buddy you told the tech to grind down the "big metal part on the end of the silencer which was obviously what was holding it on."

I sense moronism and all i can do now is laugh at you.

If you can't picture a small piece of spatter, from the welding of the muffler to the stock pipe, even remotely possibly tacking the silencer to the muffler housing internally, then it is not only I who is wasting my time on you.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by gpomp
spoken like a true ricer. no wonder you're defending the OP.

what is a true ricer? sounds like a mythical creature.

[sr20s14zenki]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


He didn't get any kind of tuned exhaust put on the car, he simply had the muffler changed. This doesn't really create any more horsepower (but every little bit helps), but it definately changes the sound the car makes, whether it be the tone and/or the volume.

For an audiophile like myself, I would definately spend a couple bills to make my car sound the way I want it because I would procure more pleasure from driving the car. Even if it went no faster at all.

Well...you may as well leave it stock if you dont care about horsepower gains. Why put an aftermarket louder different sounding muffler on your car just to muffle it.....doesnt really make sense. I agree with the OP about using the silencer during daily driving, altho its not something i would worry about (noise) its something he may worry about. I have an HKS Hi power 3.75" exhaust, thank god for the fact that a turbo acts as a muffler, or it would be loud as fuck.

[jibber]

Originally posted by gpomp
spoken like a true ricer. no wonder you're defending the OP.

Label me however you want, but I do understand the differences and benefits between a muffler and a full cat-back exhaust system. I was only clarifying things for sr20s14zenki.

But alas, this is how beyond is nowadays. Even if you try and be helpful, you still get bashed.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by brendankharris


what is a true ricer? sounds like a mythical creature. ricers are invisible to fellow ricers.

[jibber]

Originally posted by sr20s14zenki


Well...you may as well leave it stock if you dont care about horsepower gains.

Hence the term 'ricer'.

[luxor]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


If you can't picture a small piece of spatter, from the welding of the muffler to the stock pipe, even remotely possibly tacking the silencer to the muffler housing internally, then it is not only I who is wasting my time on you.

You obviously have never welded anything before. Maybe you should be asking yourself that absurd question. Here i'll ask it for you. If you think a small piece of spatter, from the welding of the muffler to the stock pipe, even remotely possibly tacking the silencer to the muffler housing internally, then it is not only I who is wasting my time on you.

For the weld to make it that far it would take quite the trajectory angle and velocity to project the weld, FROM THE INSIDE of the pipe mind you, that far to the tip where the silencer sits. Welds fly everywhere so you might be right, it could be possible. But the muffler is a good 10-14 inches long and weld would've cooled long before it would reach near the tip to "weld" the silencer in place.

Thanks for coming out, ricer. I call :bullshit:

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by sr20s14zenki


Well...you may as well leave it stock if you dont care about horsepower gains. Why put an aftermarket louder different sounding muffler on your car just to muffle it.....doesnt really make sense. I agree with the OP about using the silencer during daily driving, altho its not something i would worry about (noise) its something he may worry about. I have an HKS Hi power 3.75" exhaust, thank god for the fact that a turbo acts as a muffler, or it would be loud as fuck.

The stock muffler (I was looking for a pic online) is the size of the gas tank (literally 4.5ft by 2ft and weighs about 50lbs (taking from RRM, a Lancer tuning company) so I am sure mine helps. I mainly did it for the look because the 1.5" tip coming out looked retarded. So call me a ricer if you want. I have lots of comments at DTP and the Cruise so I dont care.

I also dont tune my car for you guys so whatever. (note this is not directed at you sr20s14zenki, it seemed like a natural progression)



Originally posted by gpomp
ricers are invisible to fellow ricers.

Ah, wait who said that. :thumbsup:

[analbumcover]

what the fuck does a different muffler do? add airflow after its already travelled down your stock pipe

sweet

i thought ricers bought mufflers for the sound but you are bitching about losing your silencer i dongetit

[jibber]

Originally posted by luxor


You obviously have never welded anything before. Maybe you should be asking yourself that absurd question. Here i'll ask it for you. If you think a small piece of spatter, from the welding of the muffler to the stock pipe, even remotely possibly tacking the silencer to the muffler housing internally, then it is not only I who is wasting my time on you.

For the weld to make it that far and would take quite the trajectory angle to project the weld, FROM THE INSIDE of the pipe mind you, that far to the tip where the silencer sits. Welds fly everywhere so you might be right, it could be possible. But the muffler is a good 10-14 inches long and weld would've cooled long before it would reach near the tip to "weld" the silencer in place.

Thanks for coming out, ricer. I call :bullshit:

http://www.nengun.com/image/catalogue/original/nengun-0767-01-blitz-nur_v_spec_exhaust.jpg

As you can see by the silencer removed from the muffler on the left hand side of this picture, the spatter doesn't quite have to travel as far as you think it does to tack the silencer in place. Depending on the size of the muffler, a few inches would all but suffice.

[luxor]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


http://www.nengun.com/image/catalogue/original/nengun-0767-01-blitz-nur_v_spec_exhaust.jpg

As you can see by the silencer removed from the muffler on the left hand side of this picture, the spatter doesn't quite have to travel as far as you think it does to tack the silencer in place. Depending on the size of the muffler, a few inches would all but suffice.

The skinnier part of the silencer doesn't touch the mesh nor any part of the muffler so it doesn't matter even if weld splatter was all over it. The inside diameter of the muffler is the same as the diameter of the tip, and hence the same size of the larger ring of the silencer. You must be delusional if you think a "performance" oriented muffler(ricer) would be of that small in diameter and yet make so much noise at the same time. Also what the hell would be the point of a "silencer" if it were the same inside diameter as the muffler itself. Do you know what restriction is? and do you know what restriction does to the noise in the muffler system? Know your shit before coming up with absurd arguments.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by luxor


The skinnier part of the silencer doesn't touch the mesh nor any part of the muffler so it doesn't matter even if weld splatter was all over it. The inside diameter of the muffler is the same as the diameter of the tip, and hence the same size of the larger ring of the silencer. You must be delusional if you think a "performance" oriented muffler(ricer) would be of that small in diameter and yet make so much noise at the same time. Know your shit before coming up with absurd arguments.

I said I wouldnt comment but I changed my mind.

YOU are wrong, the inside diameter was the same diameter as the small part on the silencer (the model I had on my car before anyways)

Also I believe the weld drip was from making the muffler, not from installing it.

[luxor]

Originally posted by brendankharris


I said I wouldnt comment but I changed my mind.

YOU are wrong, the inside diameter was the same diameter as the small part on the silencer (the model I had on my car before anyways)

Also I believe the weld drip was from making the muffler, not from installing it.

Holy bullshit to the max. The "silencer" would be utterly useless if it was the same diameter as the inside of the muffler. The silencer works by restriction, you know like slowing down the spent gas coming from the engine, more or less like oem mufflers. The silencer and the muffler are manufactured seperately, so how can the weld drip "weld" the silencer when it wasn't even on there during the manufacture of the muffler?

You're in denial buddy.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


http://www.nengun.com/image/catalogue/original/nengun-0767-01-blitz-nur_v_spec_exhaust.jpg

As you can see by the silencer removed from the muffler on the left hand side of this picture, the spatter doesn't quite have to travel as far as you think it does to tack the silencer in place. Depending on the size of the muffler, a few inches would all but suffice.

pm'd

[jibber]

Originally posted by luxor


The skinnier part of the silencer doesn't touch the mesh nor any part of the muffler so it doesn't matter even if weld splatter was all over it. The inside diameter of the muffler is the same as the diameter of the tip, and hence the same size of the larger ring of the silencer. You must be delusional if you think a "performance" oriented muffler(ricer) would be of that small in diameter and yet make so much noise at the same time. Also what the hell would be the point of a "silencer" if it were the same inside diameter as the muffler itself. Do you know what restriction is? and do you know what restriction does to the noise in the muffler system? Know your shit before coming up with absurd arguments.

I stand corrected. I was under the impression that the far end would be touching something, but if it is as you say, then I am mistaken.

I also apologize for being brash towards you earlier, that was uncalled for. It didn't help at all. I guess I just got a little riled up over nothing.

Meanwhile, gpomp and Weapon_R just go around calling people ricers. I was disappointed. They've both been around beyond long enough that I thought they might actually have something worthwhile to add to this thread. But if calling someone on beyond a ricer makes you feel like a bigger man, then do what you need to do.

Cheers,

[4lti7ude]

Seriously the most typing iv ever seen in one thread by every person ahhahaha. :drama:

[TomcoPDR]

Mike (JDMsupraTT), I THINK people were just throwing some ideas around trying to get to the bottom of things.

So what's the conclusion everyone can agree with here?

[jibber]

Originally posted by TomcoPDR
Mike (JDMsupraTT), I THINK people were just throwing some ideas around trying to get to the bottom of things.

So what's the conclusion everyone can agree with here?

No one knows everything! :D

[sr20s14zenki]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


No one knows everything! :D

But everyone knows something :thumbsup:

[Euro///Tuned]

Originally posted by JDMSupraTT


No one knows everything! :D


Moral of the story...don't be a ricer.

[The Cosworth]

mods please close & delete. I should have known this was a bad idea.

[TomcoPDR]

Hey you got a name change, does it really cost $500?

[The Cosworth]

^^ well I was bitching about $160 at a muffler shop, it is because I am broke because of something else. :D

not cause I am a poor bastard haha

[ricoRA]

Originally posted by gpomp
ricers are invisible to fellow ricers.

In a ricer's mind they are unique since they can not see each other.

Just another useless post.

[zieg]

I like this thread.

[JRSC00LUDE]

Originally posted by sr20s14zenki


But everyone knows something :thumbsup:

But someone knows nothing!

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by JRSC00LUDE


But someone knows nothing!

:clap: i was expecting a lot worse from you

[Cooked Rice]

Well at least I have a heads up now. I was about to go to them to re-weld some hangers on my exhaust. I'll hit up Calgary Muffler then.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by Cooked Rice
Well at least I have a heads up now. I was about to go to them to re-weld some hangers on my exhaust. I'll hit up Calgary Muffler then.

and that was the WHOLE point of this thread

[TomcoPDR]

Originally posted by The Cosworth


and that was the HOLE point of this thread

Ture, just sharing personal experience.

[The Cosworth]

^^ fuck, maybe it is because it is 11 at night and i have had a few rum and cokes but that is pretty funny.

[reiRei]

dammit, I started reading this thread far too late..

anyone wanna sign up on MN and post in the thread there too? :poosie: