Increasing Horsepower

[MikeAg]

I just installed a cold air intake into my stock 2001 toyota celica gt. I wanted to ask your guys for tips on increasing my horsepower gradually. Starting from cheapest to expensive. Thanks a lot

[ercchry]

http://www.turbo-kits.com/images/turbokits_turbo_kit.jpg

[88CRX]

NAWz

http://www.hawkinsspeedshop.com/categories/products/images/nos-02001.jpg

[88CRX]

Seriously though.... thats a pretty vague question.

Intake/header/exhaust is probably your most common group of NA mods. After that start digging deap into your pockets for some sort of boost :burnout:

[Eleanor]

Ebay performance chips :thumbsup:

[ercchry]

Originally posted by 88CRX
Seriously though.... thats a pretty vague question.

Intake/header/exhaust is probably your most common group of NA mods. After that start digging deap into your pockets for some sort of boost :burnout:

or just go straigh to boost instead of wasting money on parts that you will not be using once you have boost :D

[HoTTNiXX]

buy a car worthy of money and horsepower?

[Cooked Rice]

Intake, header, exhaust.

Then lighten the bitch up.

Lightweight flywheel, pulleys, if your baller get lightweight wheels.

You can also get some cams and get a tune done.

Or forget all that and go turbo....

[88CRX]

Originally posted by ercchry


or just go straigh to boost instead of wasting money on parts that you will not be using once you have boost :D

If you have to ask what performance mods you need to make your car faster then boost is probably not for you.

But yes I do agree with you :D

[gretz]

:werd: - it will cost you more to gradually modify then to wait and buy a one shot deal. I would suggest a supercharger for you - easy install, less b.s. - clean on celicas (cost lots $$)

[MikeAg]

wuts the diff btwn boost and turbo?

[drtoohotty1]

I figure this would be your best bet for desired HP.

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[Mitsu3000gt]

I would suggest saving up for a better car that has more power stock than building up the current car. High HP and FWD are not a great combo anyways. You won't get much of your money back for the mods later on when you sell it either.

If you are hell bent on dumping money into this car, go straight for a turbo because I'd be surprised if you can even notice any HP gains from intake, exhaust, etc. on a smal 4cyl engine.

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by MikeAg
wuts the diff btwn boost and turbo?

If you need to ask this, you aren't ready to do anything to your car. Get a ricer bodykit and led taillights, fibreglass interior & 30lb chrome wheels and call it a day.

[ercchry]

Originally posted by MikeAg
wuts the diff btwn boost and turbo?

:rofl:

hahaha thats just funny. boost is a result of forced induction either super charger or turbo

[ga16i]

Originally posted by ercchry


or just go straigh to boost instead of wasting money on parts that you will not be using once you have boost :D

Word, if you do intake, exhaust, and header and then later decide to boost, you'll probably have to replace intake and header and probably exhaust as well. Let's say full on cat back exhaust is $800 + $150 for intake + $400 for header, that's $1300+ for like ~15hp at the wheels if you're lucky. Anyway, regarding your original question, the cheapest possible mod to go faster is always going to be weight reduction. It's free, just toss whatever is not necessary for making the car move. Take out all the trim, carpets, backbeats, power window motors, AC compressor, spare tire, speakers. Remove all emissions related stuff as well. If you take out all that stuff, you should be at least like 150 lbs lighter. After that you won't be getting any serious power until you spend thousands of dollars on turbos and superchargers.

[BigMass]

too bad it's not at least a GTS

[dimi]

Take your spare out, and then your tools as well. That is usually 50lb which you could do without. If you have any sort of audio equipment (subwoofers) take them out, they weigh too much. Lowering your car's weight is much more important than adding horsepower.

[syeve]

First, you HAVE to get a RHD and the RACE down 17th Ave sw...especially right in front of Melrose.

When you do this ALL the girls on the patio will notice you and ALL the guys will say to themselves "why aren't I that guy?"

Simple.

[brown_guy]

Originally posted by MikeAg
wuts the diff btwn boost and turbo?


lol:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: R U KIDDING????you on Beyond :drama:

[Tomaz]

Originally posted by MikeAg
wuts the diff btwn boost and turbo?

I hope this isn't real...

Boost = Forced induction (turbo or supercharger)

Turbo = turbo


Hopefully that helps ya out!:thumbsup:




Back to the original question,

if you have money and love your car, get forced induction and a bunch of other goodies with some weight-saving features.

If your broke-ass like me, short ram and exaust untill you get a more tunable car!

[A790]

Get a compressed air tank and route the hose into your intake. Set it up so you can trigger the tank remotely, and voila, you got compressed air goodness at your fingertips!

[ga16i]

Originally posted by ercchry


:rofl:

hahaha thats just funny. boost is a result of forced induction either super charger or turbo

yeah, that's probably the best explanation so far in this thread. Boost is like the opposite of vacuum.

If your engine just sits there, air isn't going to move into the engine by itself, there needs to be a difference in pressure. Normally, the Earth's atmosphere has a higher pressure than inside the engine ( vacuum ) and air wants to flow into the engine. Eventually the pressure is equal inside and outside the engine, no more going faster on a NA car, but with a boosted car ( via supercharger or turbocharger ), you can force more air into the engine, this is what boost is, the pressure forcing more air into the engine than what the atmosphere naturally provides.

Going faster mods probably fall into a 2 major categories
- lose more weight
- burn more gas

Can't really burn more gas if not going into boost.

[E46..sTyLez]

Originally posted by HoTTNiXX
buy a car worthy of money and horsepower?

But make sure it isn't 19yrs old like this guys :rolleyes:

[ercchry]

Originally posted by E46..sTyLez


But make sure it isn't 19yrs old like this guys :rolleyes:

no kidding, old cars suck, so many rusty bolts....

[D'z Nutz]

Stickers. Especially ones that say things along the lines of "Powered by _____", "Type R", and the ever popular "VTEC"

[Moe Man]

Originally posted by A790
Get a compressed air tank and route the hose into your intake. Set it up so you can trigger the tank remotely, and voila, you got compressed air goodness at your fingertips!

haha i used to think that that really worked. untill i found out that a ratio of fuel and gas is needed. :banghead:

[rc2002]

As already posted, modding that car isn't worth it. I/H/E might net you 5 WHP.

Just save your money and buy more car off the bat.

[MikeAg]

What car should i get next? I bought this stock '01 celica for 14,300 a year ago

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by MikeAg
What car should i get next? I bought this stock '01 celica for 14,300 a year ago

what do you want, if you want just speed get this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Chrysler-Laser.jpg




















j/k that is what happens when you leave yourself open.


You need to decide what you want, big V8? I6? 4 banger with turbo? New? Old? RWD? FWD? AWD? How much? how easy to mod. Etc.

Then we can help ya :thumbsup:

[MikeAg]

WELL v4 easily modded, 2000+, doesnt matter what type of wheel drive, 150hp +

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by MikeAg
WELL v4 easily modded, 2000+, doesnt matter what type of wheel drive, 150hp +

what is a v4? did you mean I4?

how much are you willing to spend. Do you prefer japanese, NA, european?

Top of head is a 1.8t, civic, mustang, lancer, superboob, etc.

[MikeAg]

v4 = 4 cylinder
Manufacturer doesnt matter
around 15000

take into account that i need to sell the celica first
how much do you think i can get for it?

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/219107/fs-2001-toyota-celica/

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by MikeAg
v4 = 4 cylinder
Manufacturer doesnt matter
around 15000

take into account that i need to sell the celica first
how much do you think i can get for it?

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/219107/fs-2001-toyota-celica/

i4 = inline 4 (econobox engine)

Flat 4 = horizontally opposed 4 cylinder (subaru, porsche)

Flat 6 = horizontally opposed 6 cylinder (subaru, porsche)

i6 = inline 6 (BMW, Supra's)

v6 = configured in a v shape with 6 cylinders (econo mustangs)

v8 = configured in a v shape with 8 cylinders (gt mustangs)


v4 = doesnt exist



I would say you will probably get around 8500/9000. Maybe a little more if it is cleaner than I imagine. Also spend 20 minutes to clean the engine bay. It looks like ass.



15k I would say your looking at an early 2000's 1.8t, best bet for tuning and comes turbo already.

[MikeAg]

how much can i get for my car easy?

[ga16i]

Although I love my JDM FR cars like the S13, cars old enough for age of consent aren't for everyone especially with our winters and not everyone can fix cars easily.

If you really do want to go fast in a straight line in something newish, keep the FF 4 banger layout (just like your celica), and not have to worry about car being too old and breaking down, stock turbo cars like SRT-4, Mazdaspeed5, Cobalt SS ('08 should be turbo) should theoretically walk all over stock SR20's and not cause you grieve for quite some time. Lots of SRT-4's down at race city runs 13's, that's plenty fast for most people. Level of gayness is high on these cars, but they are as quick as they are gay.

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by MikeAg
how much can i get for my car easy?

$6500/$7000




$1.00 would be the easiest obviously









Originally posted by ga16i
Although I love my JDM FR cars like the S13, cars old enough for age of consent aren't for everyone especially with our winters and not everyone can fix cars easily.

If you really do want to go fast in a straight line in something newish, keep the FF 4 banger layout (just like your celica), and not have to worry about car being too old and breaking down, stock turbo cars like SRT-4, Mazdaspeed5, Cobalt SS ('08 should be turbo) should theoretically walk all over stock SR20's and not cause you grieve for quite some time. Lots of SRT-4's down at race city runs 13's, that's plenty fast for most people. Level of gayness is high on these cars, but they are as quick as they are gay.

completely agree, but where is he going to find one for $15,000

[badatusrnames]

Get a better platform.

Instead of pouring thousands into a car... just take that money and instead get a more powerful car to being with that is better suited to being built up...

V4... :rofl:

[rc2002]

Originally posted by MikeAg
WELL v4 easily modded, 2000+, doesnt matter what type of wheel drive, 150hp +

I'd suggest an RSX-S. Huge aftermarket support (you can find used parts cheap too) and bolt ons are quite responsive.

Or if your budget is smaller then I'd go with a Civic si-R. One of the easiest cars to mod and parts are cheap and plentiful. Being a parts bin car really helps keep maintenance costs down too.

[MikeAg]

1.8T?

is there a special way to clean th engine?

[The Cosworth]

Originally posted by MikeAg
1.8T?

is there a special way to clean th engine?

VW 1.8T was found in the GTi's and Jetta's





cleaning the engine can be done in many ways. There are a few car washes (I found the one in Dalhousie works well) that have an acidic spray you spray on. Let it sit for a bit then spray it off. Just make sure you are as far back as you can so you dont force water into engine areas.

Or you can get a bucket and soap and do it yourself.

[alloroc]

Originally posted by BigMass
too bad it's not at least a GTS

Actually his options are greater without.

There were some TRD supercharger options for the lower hp engine that aren't available for the gts engine. That said, none of them were for the celica and they may not fit.

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by MikeAg
v4 = 4 cylinder
Manufacturer doesnt matter
around 15000




Well, if you're determined to get a v4, you're pretty limited to

1962 - 1968 Ford Taunus
1969 - 1972 Ford Capri
1967-1970 Saab 95, Saab 96 and Saab Sonett
1965-1972 Ford Transit
1967-1972 Matra 530
1972-1975 Ford Consul (German version)
1975-1981 Ford Granada (German version)
1971-1974 Saab 95, Saab 96 and Saab Sonett

And if you aren't educated enough to know that pretty much every other 4 cylinder engine (in cars) out there is NOT a V, then you might want to pick some books up/read the internet to learn more before you go fucking around with your engines.

[ga16i]

Originally posted by The Cosworth


$6500/$7000




$1.00 would be the easiest obviously










completely agree, but where is he going to find one for $15,000

A quick search in buysell.com came up with a used car lot selling a SRT-4 for $20k, you can probably get reasonably close to $15k through a private seller.

RSX is probably more money than a SRT-4, them JDM cars tend to hold their value higher and longer.

Choice is probably fairly limited for quick cars from 2000+ around the 15k mark. Starting with a turbo car makes later power mods much cheaper. Adding an extra 50hp to SRT-4 is probably way easier and cheaper than adding an extra 50hp to RSX

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok
And if you aren't educated enough to know that pretty much every other 4 cylinder engine (in cars) out there is NOT a V, then you might want to pick some books up/read the internet to learn more before you go fucking around with your engines.

This man speaks the truth.

[Toma]

LOL.... you guys are harsh....

:thumbsup:

[GQBalla]

the internet is serious business

[Dritto]

Maybe not everyone's cup of tea, but one can get into a brand new Caliber SRT-4 for ~21K.

Considering that an original SRT can go for that used, and in good condition, the new SRT is a pretty decent bargain. This is of course IF he wants to spend this much money on a vehicle. If you have ~15K to put down, you'd be able to finance and pay off the extra $6000 in no time.

Not as 'hardcore' as the original SRT, but still a decent little ride I suspect!


P.S. (Cosworth) Was that picture posted earlier a Turismo?!?

[ga16i]

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/217709/fs-2005-neon-srt-4-stage3-18k-obo/
This thing has been there for over a month, should be able to get close to $15k, it's even modded to go quicker than stock, awesome deal :thumbsup: