Drug bust near my house!

[Bimmer88]

Hey guys,

So today in Douglas Dale area around 2:30 ish? I saw white unmarked U-Haul type truck, and 6 Swat dudes, 3 or 4 police officers, 3 - 4 City of Calgary vehicles, 2 Calgary Police vehicles, and EMS.

They were being briefed at the Swiftey's, and then moved into position and executed their takedown with weapons drawn, such as the nice normal 9mm hand gun which were drawn by normal police officers, then the swat team had full tatical gear, and rifles, and gas masks...

The pic I took was blurry and not a clear shot since we just wanted to drive by and see... but holy smokes... one hell of a drug bust?

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/3927/media1mt6.jpg

Totally spelt the title incorrectly...

[01RedDX]

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[Bimmer88]

Serious? I wish I had more time... but we just wanted to get the hell outta there!!

[rmk]

Very cool!

They featured the drug unit not too long ago on the news and were showing the new software they use which shows the power grid and homes that suck the most out. Within the interview they had like 6 grow ups on the screen. :rofl:

[supra_11]

seems like everytime i hear of a drug bust the whole set-up is different, last time i saw one was in sundance right by midsun junior high. there were about 3 blacked out suv's, 1 police cruiser, 2 ems's and a gigantic armored vehicle with 15-25 swat members, looked like something out of a movie.

nice pic, wish i had one to share with you.

[88jbody]

solar power for the grow op so it doesn't use the house power. :thumbsup:

[QuasarCav]

Originally posted by 88jbody
solar power for the grow op so it doesn't use the house power. :thumbsup:


Are you aware of the amount of power consumed?

[SkittleFreak]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/02/End_view_of_Kramer_Junction_solar_field.jpg/800px-End_view_of_Kramer_Junction_solar_field.jpg

Thats about how many you'd need. lol

[Bimmer88]

LOL @ Solar Power..

Steal your neighbors power hahaha

[revelations]

All th smrt growers use warehouses where electricity is paid on a flat monthly rate.... or a condo like mine which has the same setup.

[nightfx]

Originally posted by revelations
All th smrt growers use warehouses where electricity is paid on a flat monthly rate.... or a condo like mine which has the same setup.
Thanks for the tip...? lol

[revelations]

its all how you use it !

[rmk]

Originally posted by revelations
All th smrt growers use warehouses where electricity is paid on a flat monthly rate.... or a condo like mine which has the same setup.

It has nothing to do with how much you pay, they measure how much electricity you are sucking down. Even if the home is stealing power, they can monitor it now.

[revelations]

Many storage/warehouses dont have individual metering, the whole building will just show a huge drain.

Its the same as my condo, we dont pay individual hydro bills. There are only 3 meters downstairs, 1 for outdoor plug-ins, 1 for the 100+ suites, 1 for the building equipment (AFAIK).

[Bimmer88]

Wow... thanks for the tips now.

Anyways back on topic... anyone know who lives there? lol

[brown_guy]

AWW man thats my house .....LOL j/k
I love the pic :thumbsup:

[Rat Fink]

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[Jlude]

wow, in douglas dale... I like that neighborhood.

I wonder if they were renting, if so, sucks for the owners.

[kaput]

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[Jlude]

Originally posted by kaput
That van looks bomb proof. Look how thick the door is!

I think it's a regular door... it's just the angle of the door, makes the corner of the van look like part of the door.

[bosanel]

I'm assuming what ever it was that was going on it that house required the explosive adrenaline fueled mistake prone brazen door busting take down typical of the ever growing SWAT team use epidemic.

... in fact I'm sure the people in that house we're all violent criminals with a violent past, but you know, that would be assuming the SWAT are at the right house, and well, even that's assuming too much. :banghead: :banghead: :rolleyes:

[Soren1989]

that must be an undercover swat truck, it looks like they could have gotten ready and shit in there

[Kritafo]

most grow ops aren't even being lived in.

I watched 2 busts here in Valley Ridge, first time the van just rolled in with a buncha cops. 2nd time...it was like a movie scene including the police dogs. they broke down the door, guns ready...scary....we just got the hell out as soon as they started to break down the door.

[schocker]

Originally posted by Kritafo
....2nd time...it was like a movie scene including the police dogs. they broke down the door, guns ready...scary....we just got the hell out as soon as they started to break down the door.
it is a good thing you got out before they could catch you.
then swat would have come and disrespected your family

[redline]

Originally posted by schocker

it is a good thing you got out before they could catch you.
then swat would have come and disrespected your family

:rofl: :rofl:

[rmk]

Originally posted by schocker

it is a good thing you got out before they could catch you.
then swat would have come and disrespected your family

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

She is probably too old to get it though.

[QuasarCav]

Originally posted by schocker

it is a good thing you got out before they could catch you.
then swat would have come and disrespected your family


I never knocked on no one.

[DayGlow]

Originally posted by bosanel
I'm assuming what ever it was that was going on it that house required the explosive adrenaline fueled mistake prone brazen door busting take down typical of the ever growing SWAT team use epidemic.

... in fact I'm sure the people in that house we're all violent criminals with a violent past, but you know, that would be assuming the SWAT are at the right house, and well, even that's assuming too much. :banghead: :banghead: :rolleyes:

I'd like to see the sources of examples of how mistake prone the Tac team is.

[rmk]

Originally posted by DayGlow


I'd like to see the sources of examples of how mistake prone the Tac team is.

No shit. I remember hearing a stat they have never killed anyone in their entire history. They had to shoot a guy but he fully recovered. The only death was one of their own durng a training exercise, and a member had his pistol discharge when exiting out of a truck some years ago.

[pf0sh0]

Damn, that is 3 minutes away from my house.. Calgary is fucked up haha

[teg_boya]

Originally posted by pf0sh0
Damn, that is 3 minutes away from my house.. Calgary is fucked up haha

to bad you were not able to benefit form this house before it got busted... or did you?

[GQBalla]

^^ every city has grow ops.

vancouver has so many that they just post a notice on your door saying to take it down in X amount of time, if you dont they come and bust you.


they don't even waste their resources now, they warn you and if you don't take it down THAN they come after you

[revelations]

Originally posted by GQBalla
^^ every city has grow ops.

vancouver has so many that they just post a notice on your door saying to take it down in X amount of time, if you dont they come and bust you.


they don't even waste their resources now, they warn you and if you don't take it down THAN they come after you

Vancouver city cops are the laziest slackers around - this just goes to prove it.
Damn liberal-hippy land! :nut:

[5hift]

Originally posted by bosanel
I'm assuming what ever it was that was going on it that house required the explosive adrenaline fueled mistake prone brazen door busting take down typical of the ever growing SWAT team use epidemic.

... in fact I'm sure the people in that house we're all violent criminals with a violent past, but you know, that would be assuming the SWAT are at the right house, and well, even that's assuming too much. :banghead: :banghead: :rolleyes:

They need a swat team because usually if there is someone in a grow up, as there is potentially millions worth of drugs, it would be stupid to assume they are not armed. Sending in regular cops fresh from a shift at Tim Hortons wouldnt be the smartest choice.


Originally posted by DayGlow


I'd like to see the sources of examples of how mistake prone the Tac team is.

:werd: Yeah the Tach team is nothing like regular police, actually somewhat of a filtering process to get in.


Originally posted by GQBalla
^^ every city has grow ops.

vancouver has so many that they just post a notice on your door saying to take it down in X amount of time, if you dont they come and bust you.


they don't even waste their resources now, they warn you and if you don't take it down THAN they come after you

I remember reading something about this in the Herald recently. Actually its not because they have so many, its because under the law they have to post a notice first after getting private info from the BC power companies. Think of how stupid your reasoning is... Not chasing criminals because of a waste of resources? Lol ever heard of the war on drugs, wasting resources unecesarily is pretty much what its about.


Originally posted by revelations


Vancouver city cops are the laziest slackers around - this just goes to prove it.
Damn liberal-hippy land! :nut:


Nothing to do with the cops if the laws are fucked. I remember reading something about the waiting window before entering houses being shortened or removed though.

[brandon]

What part of douglasdale was this?

[GQBalla]

Originally posted by 5hift

I remember reading something about this in the Herald recently. Actually its not because they have so many, its because under the law they have to post a notice first after getting private info from the BC power companies. Think of how stupid your reasoning is... Not chasing criminals because of a waste of resources? Lol ever heard of the war on drugs, wasting resources unecesarily is pretty much what its about.


ohh i see - well that sounds better,

my friends just told me its cause there was so many and not enough cops out there to bust a house for every single grow op

[revelations]

Originally posted by 5hift
Nothing to do with the cops if the laws are fucked. I remember reading something about the waiting window before entering houses being shortened or removed though.

Actually its both,,.the VPD are known to be the lazy cops of the lower mainland. All other districts (eg. Surrey, North Van) deal with things in a more prompt manner.

Its not entirely their fault though, the CCC is a federal statue but Vancouver judges tend to be (gasp) liberal... which makes the VPD very cynical and unmotiovated to arrest people and put them through the revolving door.

[Kritafo]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kritafo
[B]most grow ops aren't even being lived in.

I watched 2 busts here in Valley Ridge, first time the van just rolled in with a buncha cops. 2nd time...it was like a movie scene including the police dogs. they broke down the door, guns ready...scary...

We were just driving home one night and watched cop after cop roll into VR, so we followed them to see what was up. We had kids in the car of we would have stayed and watched the whole thing.

[Ukyo8]

Originally posted by revelations
All th smrt growers use warehouses where electricity is paid on a flat monthly rate.... or a condo like mine which has the same setup.

Good tip, ill keep it in mind.

thanks

[revelations]

Just watch out for those pesky infrared scanners :nut:

[bosanel]

Originally posted by DayGlow


I'd like to see the sources of examples of how mistake prone the Tac team is.


Originally posted by rmk


No shit. I remember hearing a stat they have never killed anyone in their entire history. They had to shoot a guy but he fully recovered. The only death was one of their own durng a training exercise, and a member had his pistol discharge when exiting out of a truck some years ago.

You both are terribly misinformed.


Eastern Kentucky University's Peter Kraska -- a widely cited expert on police militarization -- estimates that SWAT teams are called out about 40,000 times a year in the United States; in the 1980s, that figure was 3,000 times a year. Most "call-outs" were to serve warrants on nonviolent drug offenders.

From: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/02/05/224/48281

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4803570.stm



http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2007/02/14/police-inquiry.html

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=83414500-6fd4-4b7e-912a-d6f32ab218b2

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080613.wacquit14/BNStory/National/

http://www.drugwar.com/oopswrong.shtm

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/06/tennessee.shooting.02.ap/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188934,00.html

http://www.660news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n0613107A

http://www.primetimecrime.com/Recent/Police/CH20060825Drugraid.htm

And I mean that's just pulling up shit for Canada...

The fact is when you start dressing police up as soldiers and telling them that the people they are meant to protect are the bad guys, you've got a serious problem.


The SWAT and TAC teams came about because of a need for highly trained individuals and special weapons and tactics during hostage situations or barricated subjects, but they were never intended to be used durring low risk search warrant execution...

Wake up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT#Controversies

http://www.emergency.com/swat0797.htm

[Antonito]

Originally posted by bosanel

And I mean that's just pulling up shit for Canada...


Quick FYI, America isn't Canada. Just thought you should know that while pulling up "Canadian" statistics. You fucking moron.

[Supa Dexta]

I guess there was a bust out in front of my house last week too, but I was on vacation. The neighbour just told me bout it today. Big sting it seems.

[89coupe]

I thought this was the most amazing setup I have seen for growing weed.

http://www.onmarijuana.com/2007/04/03/the-great-tennessee-marijuana-cave/

[teg_boya]

Originally posted by 89coupe
I thought this was the most amazing setup I have seen for growing weed.

http://www.onmarijuana.com/2007/04/03/the-great-tennessee-marijuana-cave/

:drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[5hift]

^^

amazing setup, but a waste of money unless you are off the grid. A tiny house like that using the huge amounts of electricity for 500+ plants would be so obvious that something is going on.

[Bimmer88]

Originally posted by 89coupe
I thought this was the most amazing setup I have seen for growing weed.

http://www.onmarijuana.com/2007/04/03/the-great-tennessee-marijuana-cave/

Saw this one long time ago.. that's a crazy set-up...

But I wonder... where did they dump all that dirt? yet alone excavate it? Did they eat it as breakfast, lunch, and dinner? lol...

And a nucular type blast door... that's crazy.

[JAYMEZ]

Just saw 5 swat trucks in signal hill and the hawk... must be raiding another house... fuck they are scary when they are all up on your ass , i thought i did something wrong lol

[EIT07]

As long as you never do anything wrong you won't be scared.

[DayGlow]

Originally posted by bosanel




You both are terribly misinformed.



From: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/02/05/224/48281

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4803570.stm



http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2007/02/14/police-inquiry.html

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=83414500-6fd4-4b7e-912a-d6f32ab218b2

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080613.wacquit14/BNStory/National/

http://www.drugwar.com/oopswrong.shtm

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/06/tennessee.shooting.02.ap/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188934,00.html

http://www.660news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n0613107A

http://www.primetimecrime.com/Recent/Police/CH20060825Drugraid.htm

And I mean that's just pulling up shit for Canada...

The fact is when you start dressing police up as soldiers and telling them that the people they are meant to protect are the bad guys, you've got a serious problem.


The SWAT and TAC teams came about because of a need for highly trained individuals and special weapons and tactics during hostage situations or barricated subjects, but they were never intended to be used durring low risk search warrant execution...

Wake up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT#Controversies

http://www.emergency.com/swat0797.htm

Interesting, and which one of those details the Calgary Tac team?

You can't say they are incompetent unless you have evidence of it. Have teams from departments across North America made mistakes? Yes, and the thing is that all services learn from them to not make them again.

Also kicking in a grow op isn't a mondane task. Many are booby-trapped and the street level constable simply does not have the time to train dealing with them. Grow ops also house many very caustic chemicals and having a single group of people dedicated and training to enter and assess high risk situations is needed.

[revelations]

^ on the plus side, grows arent nearly as dangreous as meth labs.

[rmk]

Originally posted by bosanel




You both are terribly misinformed.



From: http://www.talkleft.com/story/2006/02/05/224/48281

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4803570.stm



http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2007/02/14/police-inquiry.html

http://www.canada.com/theprovince/news/story.html?id=83414500-6fd4-4b7e-912a-d6f32ab218b2

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20080613.wacquit14/BNStory/National/

http://www.drugwar.com/oopswrong.shtm

http://archives.cnn.com/2000/US/10/06/tennessee.shooting.02.ap/index.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,188934,00.html

http://www.660news.com/news/national/article.jsp?content=n0613107A

http://www.primetimecrime.com/Recent/Police/CH20060825Drugraid.htm

And I mean that's just pulling up shit for Canada...

The fact is when you start dressing police up as soldiers and telling them that the people they are meant to protect are the bad guys, you've got a serious problem.


The SWAT and TAC teams came about because of a need for highly trained individuals and special weapons and tactics during hostage situations or barricated subjects, but they were never intended to be used durring low risk search warrant execution...

Wake up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SWAT#Controversies

http://www.emergency.com/swat0797.htm
Are you an idiot? We have been talking about the Calgary Team. That whole post was an entire waste of time. You sound like total bleadingheart turd. Go run with Toma.

[misterrick]

i think it would be even easier for the cops to notice a bunch of equipment digging giant holes for no apparent reason without a permit.....






Originally posted by Rat Fink
That's why you bury a couple motorhomes/trailers in a field. Use diesel powered generators and have the grow op underground in the buried RVs.

Fuckin rights

.....so I've heard. (honestly not a chronic)

[teg_boya]

Originally posted by misterrick
i think it would be even easier for the cops to notice a bunch of equipment digging giant holes for no apparent reason without a permit.....

thats why you dont dig huge ass holes in your back yard and try and throw some buses in the hole. i am pretty sure he is referring to if you had some random land out in the country then his idea would be prime

[tm.88]

I wish that Canada was like the USA in these situations. If a home has a major drug bust, the house itself has to be demolished for safety reasons. In canada they just send in a the clean up crew. I have heard of many stories where 5 years down the road there is contamination in the home again.

[bosanel]

Originally posted by DayGlow


Interesting, and which one of those details the Calgary Tac team?



http://www.primetimecrime.com/Recent/Police/CH20060825Drugraid.htm

;)

[bosanel]

Originally posted by Antonito


Quick FYI, America isn't Canada. Just thought you should know that while pulling up "Canadian" statistics. You fucking moron.

I meant looking up stuff using search words for Canada.

But yeah, thanks for the ad hominem, it really goes a long way at attaqcking my character and disproving my point...

[BlueGoblin]

Originally posted by bosanel


http://www.primetimecrime.com/Recent/Police/CH20060825Drugraid.htm

;)

Just read through that and noted a couple points jump out:

1) Happened in 2000, so not exactly recent. Minor point though.

2) It wasn't the TAC team's mistake: a junior investigator was misled by a witness and was given a warrant by a judge based on faulty information.

[Rocky]

Originally posted by schocker

it is a good thing you got out before they could catch you.
then swat would have come and disrespected your family :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Antonito]

Originally posted by bosanel


I meant looking up stuff using search words for Canada.

But yeah, thanks for the ad hominem, it really goes a long way at attaqcking my character and disproving my point...

You never had a valid point, so calling you out on being a fucking moron is the only option I had left.

[rmk]

Originally posted by Antonito


You never had a valid point, so calling you out on being a fucking moron is the only option I had left.

lol :rofl:

[DayGlow]

and to be fair, a lot of the listed misactions taken by SWAT teams are done in small county departments in the United States. I fully agree that there is an issue when you have a part-time team that doesn't have the budget to properly train and equip themselves. It seems that the vast majority of the tragic incidents have this comminality and should be looked at.

I've had the opertunity to be part of some briefings that occure before a warrant execution and the amount of recon and planning put in to these actions is amazing.

[anhsicun]

thier was this big drug bust in toronto by my old area in a apartment with 22 units grow op

http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_5552.aspx

pretty crazy

[bosanel]

Originally posted by BlueGoblin


Just read through that and noted a couple points jump out:

1) Happened in 2000, so not exactly recent. Minor point though.

2) It wasn't the TAC team's mistake: a junior investigator was misled by a witness and was given a warrant by a judge based on faulty information.

" Police were initially told of the supposed grow op by the family's landlord, Michael Terrigno, with whom they had a long-standing dispute. Terrigno later recanted the story, but police pursued a warrant anyway. "

uhh, yeah.

Look, my whole point is that the use of paramilitary units for serving minor search warrants is growing... and it obviously doesn't take much to get them knocking down your door in the middle of the night.

If you care to look up the assortment of mistakes and deaths that occur when masked police break into private residences in the middle of the night...even when the people home are completely innocent... you might see the problem.

It's a scary thought to think they have the right to do that based on the information from one informant.

[bosanel]

Originally posted by DayGlow
and to be fair, a lot of the listed misactions taken by SWAT teams are done in small county departments in the United States. I fully agree that there is an issue when you have a part-time team that doesn't have the budget to properly train and equip themselves. It seems that the vast majority of the tragic incidents have this comminality and should be looked at.

I've had the opertunity to be part of some briefings that occure before a warrant execution and the amount of recon and planning put in to these actions is amazing.

Thanks blue goblin for being a mature debate opponent, but to be fair, did the recon and planning go something like this....

' Ok, it's 2 in the morning and and the non violent suspect is probably sleeping in his bed, he might be naked, so when he grabs something to cover his naked body, because he's unsure of who we are, remember, it could be a gun, so shoot him '

;)

[BlueGoblin]

Originally posted by bosanel


Thanks blue goblin for being a mature debate opponent, but to be fair, did the recon and planning go something like this....

' Ok, it's 2 in the morning and and the non violent suspect is probably sleeping in his bed, he might be naked, so when he grabs something to cover his naked body, because he's unsure of who we are, remember, it could be a gun, so shoot him '

;)

Well, I wasn't there, but I expect that given that they were mislead about what to expect inside, they were probably also misled about whom to expect inside.

That aside, I don't recall any report of anyone being shot.

[Antonito]

Originally posted by bosanel


If you care to look up the assortment of mistakes and deaths that occur when masked police break into private residences in the middle of the night...even when the people home are completely innocent... you might see the problem.


Really? Because you've been trying desperately to find stories about this, and have thus far only found one, in which there were no deaths. And I doubt it's for a lack of trying on your part.

[DayGlow]

Originally posted by bosanel


Thanks blue goblin for being a mature debate opponent, but to be fair, did the recon and planning go something like this....

' Ok, it's 2 in the morning and and the non violent suspect is probably sleeping in his bed, he might be naked, so when he grabs something to cover his naked body, because he's unsure of who we are, remember, it could be a gun, so shoot him '

;)

Now you are sensationalizing and making stuff up. Was that warrant executed at 2am? Was someone shot? Has there ever been a 2am entry been make in Calgary? Has anyone been shot in Calgary during one of these raids?

[Legless_Marine2]

Originally posted by Rat Fink
That's why you bury a couple motorhomes/trailers in a field. Use diesel powered generators and have the grow op underground in the buried RVs.

Fuckin rights

.....so I've heard. (honestly not a chronic)

I'm sure that plan could only appeal a stoner. The investment in both the motorhomes, and their burial, far exceeds any potential profit in such a setup - there's not enough space for a significant crop.

Not to mention that such a setup would stick out like a sore IR thumb in a rural setting.