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Legless_Marine2
08-07-2008, 02:15 PM
My (Canadian) friend is a nomadic sex trade worker. They're making money hand over fist abroad, wants to invest, but is unsure of where to best invest.

The more I thought about the question, the more I see that they're in a unique position. Additionally, there are tax-related complexities due to the source of their money.


Does anyone have any advice for this person?



Thanks in Advance,
LM2

Sadboy
08-07-2008, 02:26 PM
I would open an offshore bank account in the Bahamas (tax havens and secretive) and use third party MSBs to wire the funds. That's my guess

adam c
08-07-2008, 02:35 PM
pics for help

dannie
08-07-2008, 02:37 PM
I agree with Sadboy, offshore is the way to go for their situation.

broken_legs
08-07-2008, 02:55 PM
you can bring up to 10,000 dollars cash into the country without reporting it.

If they can't prove you got it via illegal or unlawful means, or prove that you got it via employment they cant touch it. I think?

Graham_A_M
08-07-2008, 03:10 PM
Interesting circle of friends you have

dannie
08-07-2008, 03:28 PM
You can bring in up to 10k without reporting it, but is that the same for all countries? What if you had 12k in cash and you were flying out of....i dunno, Morocco. What happens? Would they investigate?

Plus, if you deposit 10k or more at the bank, the clerk has to fill out a form stating what the amount was for. (Some are more leniant than others on this one). She would get busted if she came in every second day to deposit just under 10k.

And if these chicks are making money as hard core as it seems, they would be bringing waaaayyy more than 10k back with them. Just my thought.

tentacles
08-07-2008, 04:47 PM
Education. :thumbsup:

broken_legs
08-07-2008, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by dannie
....

And if these chicks are making money as hard core as it seems, they would be bringing waaaayyy more than 10k back with them. Just my thought.

I don't think theres any rule on taking money OUT of a country.



And who said they were chicks?:rofl:

rage2
08-07-2008, 06:49 PM
Originally posted by broken_legs
If they can't prove you got it via illegal or unlawful means, or prove that you got it via employment they cant touch it. I think?
This is not true. They can re-assess your income based on your standard of living. Meaning if you got away with say $200k in cash every year with a reported $0 income for 5 years and they can't prove it, they'll just look at how you're living, and assess your last 5 years at ~$200k. Sometimes they'll assess you at $300k and fuck you over even more.

That's what gets "cash income" guys such as drug dealers most of the time. So even if you're a drug dealer or a whore, you should report your actual income and deposit the money, and pay taxes on it.

Now, if she's making her money abroad, make sure the years she made the money she hasn't been in canada for over 176 days, otherwise she's accountable for Canadian taxes.

Bringing money over the border can be done, but that's a whole another thread.

If she wants to invest the money, offshore is the best way to go... keep everything out of the country, and when you want to spend the earnings, use an offshore credit card and you're set. Just don't buy a house/car or anything that sizable with that money, or you'll run into the above problems. If you need to buy a car and a house using offshore money, there are ways around that too... again, need another thread.

I had experience dealing with this stuff from years ago, and know what works and what doesn't ;).

Tik-Tok
08-07-2008, 06:55 PM
Originally posted by rage2

I had experience dealing with this stuff from years ago, and know what works and what doesn't ;).


In the traveling sex trade industry? Wow. You pimp you. Now we know how you can afford a 700hp car :rofl:

KRyn
08-07-2008, 06:57 PM
How much "sucky sucky" did you have to give to get where you are now?

:poosie: :nut: :D

rage2
08-07-2008, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by Tik-Tok
In the traveling sex trade industry? Wow. You pimp you. Now we know how you can afford a 700hp car :rofl:
haha ya I wish. There's not a huge market for Asian dudes in the sex industry :rofl:.

Weapon_R
08-07-2008, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by rage2

haha ya I wish. There's not a huge market for Asian dudes in the sex industry :rofl:.

Supply and demand. There's way too much supply :thumbsdow

BigMass
08-07-2008, 07:05 PM
Originally posted by Weapon_R


Supply and demand. There's way too much supply :thumbsdow

supply is irrelevant when there's zero demand :rofl: Am I right or am I right. Or am I right… :D

Pacman
08-07-2008, 07:39 PM
Originally posted by rage2

haha ya I wish. There's not a huge market for Asian dudes in the sex industry :rofl:.

I thought the "Lady Boys" were quite popular with old, overweight, sweaty German sex tourists.

broken_legs
08-07-2008, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by rage2

This is not true. They can re-assess your income based on your standard of living. Meaning if you got away with say $200k in cash every year with a reported $0 income for 5 years and they can't prove it, they'll just look at how you're living, and assess your last 5 years at ~$200k. Sometimes they'll assess you at $300k and fuck you over even more.

That's what gets "cash income" guys such as drug dealers most of the time. So even if you're a drug dealer or a whore, you should report your actual income and deposit the money, and pay taxes on it.

Now, if she's making her money abroad, make sure the years she made the money she hasn't been in canada for over 176 days, otherwise she's accountable for Canadian taxes.

Bringing money over the border can be done, but that's a whole another thread.

If she wants to invest the money, offshore is the best way to go... keep everything out of the country, and when you want to spend the earnings, use an offshore credit card and you're set. Just don't buy a house/car or anything that sizable with that money, or you'll run into the above problems. If you need to buy a car and a house using offshore money, there are ways around that too... again, need another thread.

I had experience dealing with this stuff from years ago, and know what works and what doesn't ;).


Start a few corporations, try a real estate holding one, a management one etc.... Funnnel the money into them and create false rents for non existent apartments etc...

I think thats called Money Laundering, seem to work pretty good for lots of criminals on TV haha

TACO.VIDAL
08-07-2008, 08:28 PM
Band.

Canada Revenue will come in and due a "net worth" audit. Theyll tear your life apart. Theyll search every nook and cranny of your house and any property they can trace back to you. Theyll inventory and appraise everything you own. If you cant prove where your money came from, say bye bye to everything you own.


Originally posted by rage2

This is not true. They can re-assess your income based on your standard of living. Meaning if you got away with say $200k in cash every year with a reported $0 income for 5 years and they can't prove it, they'll just look at how you're living, and assess your last 5 years at ~$200k. Sometimes they'll assess you at $300k and fuck you over even more.

That's what gets "cash income" guys such as drug dealers most of the time. So even if you're a drug dealer or a whore, you should report your actual income and deposit the money, and pay taxes on it.

Now, if she's making her money abroad, make sure the years she made the money she hasn't been in canada for over 176 days, otherwise she's accountable for Canadian taxes.

Bringing money over the border can be done, but that's a whole another thread.

If she wants to invest the money, offshore is the best way to go... keep everything out of the country, and when you want to spend the earnings, use an offshore credit card and you're set. Just don't buy a house/car or anything that sizable with that money, or you'll run into the above problems. If you need to buy a car and a house using offshore money, there are ways around that too... again, need another thread.

I had experience dealing with this stuff from years ago, and know what works and what doesn't ;).

fcukda
08-07-2008, 09:04 PM
what about people who get paid under the table? i.e. servers working in a restaurant, and they get money from tips?

JAYMEZ
08-07-2008, 09:09 PM
^^ You still have to claim some TIPs. You can get really fucked over for not doing it.. The gov't isnt that dumb! Anyways , I think the poster is talking about big money.

- Offshore bank
- Offshore investments and Credit card :thumbsup:

broken_legs
08-07-2008, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by fcukda
what about people who get paid under the table? i.e. servers working in a restaurant, and they get money from tips?

I claimed 200 dollars in tips per year, i was reassessed and audited for 3 years in a row and no one said anything about my tips.

As long as you claim something you should be fine.

max_boost
08-08-2008, 11:32 AM
So how exactly do you open an offshore account? Certain countries to avoid? What are the requirements? Just simple as opening up an account here at home? Are these offshore banks brick and mortar with actual investment advisors I can talk to? haha

I might be completely off base here but if you were a regular traveler it would make more sense to have an offshore account to deal with international expenditures??!

88jbody
08-08-2008, 06:13 PM
I would like to know more about off shore accounts as well. just incase someone decides they want 1/2 of what I have

badatusrnames
08-08-2008, 06:20 PM
Has she talked to other girls in the biz and asked them what they do about it??

Can't you start an "escorting" business and say all money paid (your revenue) is strictly for companionship services (just to hang out) - and whatever happens is between consenting adults?

cam_wmh
08-10-2008, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by 88jbody
I would like to know more about off shore accounts as well. just incase someone decides they want 1/2 of what I have

Aw shit... every male needs to watch Eddie Murphy Raw, before taking the plunge.

civic_ek4
08-11-2008, 04:08 AM
i think if she proves/declares herself as a non-resident she should be okay. ( no ties to canada, no assets, healthcare, driver license..........) 3 real easy ways of doing that would be marriage, kids and if she bought a house elsewhere.

stealth
09-05-2008, 09:51 PM
Would opening an account with HSBC be considered an off shore account, since they are everywhere?

I do a lot of travelling and would like some easy access to cash, wherever I am, instead of using VISA.

Supa Dexta
09-05-2008, 10:18 PM
Originally posted by rage2

haha ya I wish. There's not a huge market for Asian dudes in the sex industry :rofl:.

hahah I missed this thread the first time round.. :rofl:

88jbody
09-06-2008, 09:55 AM
Originally posted by cam_wmh


Aw shit... every male needs to watch Eddie Murphy Raw, before taking the plunge.

now you tell me... 10 years to late

broken_legs
09-06-2008, 12:27 PM
Originally posted by stealth
Would opening an account with HSBC be considered an off shore account, since they are everywhere?

I do a lot of travelling and would like some easy access to cash, wherever I am, instead of using VISA.


Are they in Canada? Yes. Then I guess it's not really offshore is it.