Pre-Photokina News

[C4S]

It is nice!!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08082605canoneos50d.asp


Too nice! I dont get it .. there was a need from 30D to 40D .. and 40D has been the best mid range DLSR for a whole year, even now, it can still offer same level of IQ/feature to the $500 more D300 ..

Now ? 50D? KO! :eek: :eek:

15.5MP .. more then enough .. :dunno:


So .. should I sell my as new and almost never used still under warranty 40D ? :angel:

[jampack]

wonder how much it would be.. :)

[C4S]

Should be good deal ..

wont' surprise for just $1400 .. still $300 under D300, and about the same as when 40D come out. :D

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by C4S
even now, it can still offer same level of IQ/feature to the $500 more D300 ..



Really? The same features? The XXD series has always been cheaper than the DXXX series because it has fewer features, like 8 FPS, studio strobe connectors, wireless flash control, better weather sealing, advanced AF system, etc.

Really, I'm not seeing some "KO" from the 50D, I'm seeing the usual technology progression that we've been seeing from Canon over the last few years, at the exact same market placement it's been at for the same amount of time. A better LCD, more megapixels, a bit of ISO boost and that's pretty much it.

[D'z Nutz]

Jeez, 15mp on an APS sensor? It must take really good pictures.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Jeez, 15mp on an APS sensor? It must take really good pictures.

Don't forget the Direct Print button, it makes better prints. :poosie:

[benyl]

This is pretty cool.

Wireless connectivity
(optional WFT-E3/E3A)
• Mounts on base of camera and also acts as vertical grip
• Has its own BP-511A battery
• Wireless 802.11b / 802.11g
• Wireless security: WEP, TKIP/AES, WPA-PSK, WPA2-PSK
• Wireless methods: Infrastructure or Ad Hoc
• Wired ethernet (100 Base-TX)
• Transfer: FTP, PTP (remote control by computer), HTTP (view / remote fire)
• USB host capable: External hard drives, flash drives
• USB comms: GPS devices (records coordinates and altitude in image header)

[D'z Nutz]

Yeah, the wireless thing's pretty cool, but it's been available for the pro bodies for years, I believe. My understanding was it was pretty slow (not to mention expensive). I wonder if it's significantly faster now. 100 base-tx ethernet's pretty cool though! Hook it up to your printer and go nuts with Direct Print! 6.3 prints per second! :burnout: :burnout:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

^Interesting that Canon went with the battery-grip style transmitter, while Nikon went with the separate belt-module. I'm not sure which I like more, haha.

[D'z Nutz]

When is Nikon expected to make their pre-Photokina unveilings?

[3g4u]

Damn and i just bought a 40D last week:banghead:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
When is Nikon expected to make their pre-Photokina unveilings?

D90 should get the official unwrapping tomorrow at the press conference. Thom Hogan predicts:

* introduction of Nikon D90 with the 18-105 lens
* update of Nikon D3 (maybe D3s)
* maybe two or three lenses
* low chance of introducing a third DSLR

I'm not sure about the D3s, but the rest sounds plausible. I'm more interested in the rumors that we'll see a Nikon digital rangefinder next year, but who knows.

[D'z Nutz]

I hope Fuji releases something. Any buzz on them on the Nikon forums?


Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
I'm more interested in the rumors that we'll see a Nikon digital rangefinder next year, but who knows.

Haha, yeah that's the news I'm waiting on from Nikon! Word from some of the more knowledgable members at RFF is there have been prototypes spotted in Japan already. I can care less about SLRs since they're really reaching the limit of what you can squeeze into it. Give me something fun!

[kvanderlaag]

Nikon SP-D? =D =D =D

I would buy it.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
I hope Fuji releases something. Any buzz on them on the Nikon forums?




There's been the usual talk of an S6 based on the D300, but that's been rumoured since the D300 was announced. More interesting but much less likely is a digital version of the Natura F1.9, a manual compact with a fixed 35mm-equivalent f/1.9 lens on an APS-C sensor. (More or less what the Sigma SD-1 should have been.)



Originally posted by D'z Nutz


Haha, yeah that's the news I'm waiting on from Nikon! Word from some of the more knowledgable members at RFF is there have been prototypes spotted in Japan already. I can care less about SLRs since they're really reaching the limit of what you can squeeze into it. Give me something fun!

:werd: With video mode on the D90, SLRs have officially jumped the shark in the tickbox-feature race. Nikon also took out that huge advert in Rangefinder mag taking about a "BIG" upcoming announcement with no details, although that could just as likely be the D3X.

[483hp]

Finally support for UDMA cards.

I think I'll wait for the next full frame camera instead. Not a huge leap over the 40D in terms of features that you would use daily.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by C4S
It is nice!!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08082605canoneos50d.asp


now, it can still offer same level of IQ/feature to the $500 more D300 ..



Unless I'm missing something, the only thing it does better than the D300 is have more MP, and to many that will be a disadvantage if ISO performance isn't better than before. I suppose it also has ISO boost to 12,800 but normally the very highest ISO levels on any camera (even the D3) are pretty useless for most applications. The D300 is also a full year old now, almost to the day of its announcement, so I think if Canon wanted to release something that directly competed with the D300 they had more than enough time to do so. Lots of people were hoping for things like 1 series autofocus in the 50D, 8FPS, better sealing, better flash system, strobe connectors, etc. in order to make it a direct competetor to the D300. It looks like a great cam though, and they will sell thousands of them. I don't think this camera was meant to compete with the D300, and will likely be a closer competetor to the new D90, kind of like the D80 and 30D back in the day.

As for Nikon's possible announcements....
Although they are usually excellent lenses, I'm not overly fond of the 3.5-5.6 lenses Nikon keeps releasing (i.e. the New 18-105), but thats probably what they sell the most of so why wouldn't they I guess? A lot of people seemed to wish the 18-135 was a VR lens. The D90 should have the D300's sensor, 4.5 fps, and I've heard rumors of a video mode (not sure what to think about that!?). It will likely be priced slightly below the 50D.

As for the D3X, I've heard rumors of Sony's 24MP CMOS sensor being used, but there are no good sources that I've seen for info on that.

For new lenses, I think we will just see a few new ones, but as to what they will be I have no idea. I think the most likely thing is the introduction of some new AF-S primes with nano coating, specifically 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm. Primes seems to be what people are whining about the most these days, or perhaps a AF-S VR II 80-400VR.

I haven't heard any buzz about Fuji, but a S7 pro or something would surely be an interesting camera.

[D'z Nutz]

Pop Photo released specs on the new Canon G10, but quickly pulled it. Here's what one guy captured on FM:


Canon has today announced the Canon Powershot G10 (SRP: $499), a 14.7 megapixel luxe-class compact digital camera as the replacement to the popular G9. The G10, along with the other compact cameras announced today, is powered by the Digic 4 processor.


Key upgrades and features of the G10 include:

-True 5x zoom wide angle lens (28-140mm equivalent.)
--Face Detection can recognize profiles.

-14.7 megapixel capture

-RAW format files editable in Canon Digital Photo Pro (instead of ZoomBrowser/Imagebrowser like the G9)

-ISO up to 1600 with binned pixels lo-rez 3200 scene setting

-ISO dial now wraps around mode dial.

-Exposure Comp has own dial to left of the hotshoe (where the ISO dial was on the G9.)

The Canon Powershot G10 will be available in October 2008. Stay tuned to PopPhoto.com for a full test of this cool new compact camera.

14.7mp on a p&s sensor?? Jesus Christ. :banghead:

[Melinda]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Pop Photo released specs on the new Canon G10, but quickly pulled it. Here's what one guy captured on FM:



14.7mp on a p&s sensor?? Jesus Christ. :banghead:
Gah, no kidding. I can hear my clients now. I ALWAYS get asked how many MP my camera is and no matter how many times I politely tell them that MP is really one of the least important parts of a camera, they always manage the "your camera can't be that good, mine has the same number of megapixels as yours". Talk about overkill...

[BerserkerCatSplat]

And there I thought the moronic megapixel race was dead. Thanks, Canon!

[Gibson]

Originally posted by Melinda

Gah, no kidding. I can hear my clients now. I ALWAYS get asked how many MP my camera is and no matter how many times I politely tell them that MP is really one of the least important parts of a camera, they always manage the "your camera can't be that good, mine has the same number of megapixels as yours". Talk about overkill...


Just tell them that your camera has over 9000 megapixels.

I always thought the race was gonna cap at around 14...and a video mode on an SLR? Frig, I need to upgrade my body but I don't know what to do now.

[C4S]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat
And there I thought the moronic megapixel race was dead. Thanks, Canon!

I hope that too!

He he .. when I said KO .. I mean it KO 40D .. :banghead:

Don't get me wrong, I have a D300 to play with for a week, and few of my buddies are Nikon users as well, (and myself too lol)

May be just me, even back to 20D/D200 .. I think they have quite enough features already ... (it is welcome to hv more features .. but still, DSLR body is still just a tool .. for photography)

:D

Anyway, both Canon and Nikon .. they make good product, but now, both are more into market share war, good for new DSLR users! :)

And yes .. as Gibson said, I guess we need to upgrade ourself first .. in order to handle all the new features .. and much more MP .. :rofl:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by C4S


He he .. when I said KO .. I mean it KO 40D .. :banghead:



Oh, haha! :D Yeah, both makers have a nicely staggered lineup and are pretty consistent with the price/performance ratio all around.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by C4S

He he .. when I said KO .. I mean it KO 40D .. :banghead:



Misread that one too :D

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Gibson


Just tell them that your camera has over 9000 megapixels.

I always thought the race was gonna cap at around 14...and a video mode on an SLR? Frig, I need to upgrade my body but I don't know what to do now.

If you can't afford the D300, the D90 is going to be like a baby D300 with the same sensor (similar to the D80/D200 relationship). Should be priced around $1299 w/ kit lens as well.


As for the Canon G10, it badly needs an APS-C size sensor if its going to have 14MP. I'll never understand why the MP and ISO settings keep going up on P&S cameras. They should start finding ways to get bigger sensors in them. Just about every P&S looks like crap after ISO 200, a couple of them can do a nice ISO 400/800 but thats about it.

[C4S]

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0808/08082702nikond90previewed.asp


MOVIE !! MOVIE !!

May not be something useful for photographer .. however, great Bokeh in DIY movie at affordable price is not a dream anymore!

:thumbsup:


(a shallow depth of field and exceptional ISO performance while recording in low-light conditions.)

[Mitsu3000gt]

:rofl: Nikon is so bad at keeping secrets (unless they purposely do so to create hype). Those exact specs were available months ago but I'm glad they are true. Looks like a winner for sure. 720P movies are sort of cool, I'd rather have that option than not have it. I was hoping they didn't introduce a crappy movie mode just to say they have one. The 50D has some stiff competition now, which is good for everyone

:thumbsup:

[mboldt]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVQX1rC-fRA

[Gibson]

I know that at work we have a couple point and shoots that will do 3200, and a lot that will do 1600.

"What does ISO 3200 mean?"
"Well, it's an effect that will make it look like there's a snowstorm indoors."


Should I just be the cheap Asian that I am and buy a used or clearance D80 or D200? I read through the stuff on the D90, and I think that it has a lot of stuff I probably won't use. HDMI ports? Nope. Movie mode? Maybe, but I have a point and shoot for that and I'd rather not clog up my high speed memory cards with videos. Live view/face detection? Not really a huge deal for me at this point.

$1300 with the 18-105 isn't bad, but if I can get a D80 for 7-800 with the 18-135 I wonder if it would be worth it, or even the D200 body alone and use it with my lenses.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by Gibson
Should I just be the cheap Asian that I am and buy a used or clearance D80 or D200? I read through the stuff on the D90, and I think that it has a lot of stuff I probably won't use.

If you don't need exceptional high ISO performance or have a need for more than 3fps for what you normally shoot, the D80 will likely be just fine.

[clem24]

That movie mode sounds really really interesting, especially since it can do it in 720p. Not because an SLR can do movie, but because you'd be able to get some ultra sharp movies from your existing lens, and being able to do some real manual focusing and zooming, instead of the crappy buttons on camcorders. I really want to see what movies are like now. :thumbsup: It'd be sweet to buy this cam just to take movies. Who cares about pics! :D

[C4S]

:D So .. probably in a yr .. they can do AF in movie mode as well .. never says never .. lol

[D'z Nutz]

On September 15th, Zeiss is announcing lenses available for a new mount. Hmmm...

http://www.zeiss.com/photo

[KKY]

zeiss for canon EF

http://proimaging.blogspot.com/2008/08/propix-news-carl-zeiss-for-canon-eos.html

now lets see what the canon-lens-only-no-third-party-lens-for-me crowd is going to say:D

[D'z Nutz]

That's what many people's first guess would be, however Canon still holds the patent for their EOS mount and their attitude has always been "no lens will be better than an L lens on a Canon body" (and they've sold that idea on many people!). When Zeiss first came out with the ZF mount for Nikon, they also approached Canon and Canon told them to fuck off. I'm not sure how other third parties like Tokina, Tamron, Sigma got around that, but then again they aren't exactly on the same quality level as CZ is so maybe Canon didn't feel as threatened.

While it would be nice, I'm not holding my breath until I see an official announcement. If it's true, I'd put my name down for a 35mm Biogon :D

Another speculation is the 4/3rds mount.

[Gibson]

Have you guys heard about the micro-four-thirds system?

Basically a mirror-less SLR.

[D'z Nutz]

Originally posted by Gibson
Have you guys heard about the micro-four-thirds system?

Basically a mirror-less SLR.

Well, if there's no mirror, than by definition, it's not an SLR ;) A point and shoot with interchangeable lenses is probably a better description.

The whole point of micro 4/3rds is that the flange distance from the sensor is much closer than that of an SLR, which means there's no space for a mirror and prism. Lenses can also be made smaller, a la rangefinder lenses. Smaller lenses + smaller bodies = compact camera with the flexibility and image quality of an DSLR.

By the design of the mount, it also opens up the possibilities of using already existing rangefinder and SLR lenses with the right adapter.

[D'z Nutz]

Those fucken cock teases at Zeiss! Official new lenses are Zeiss ZE... Of course, that could still mean E == Canont EOS or E == Minolta E!

Edit: Olympus Exx

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Minolta E? I thought it was called Sony A-mount now.

[D'z Nutz]

Oops, I meant Olympus

[Ferio_vti]

http://www.popphoto.com/testsreviews/5516/sony-alpha-900-hands-on.html

[D'z Nutz]

It's official. EF Mount :D

http://www.zeiss.com/c12567a8003b58b9/Contents-Frame/239cad953b6dc283c12574c2003568ef

No 35mm Biogon though :(

[lint]

<Mitsu3000gt>something something nikon something my cat</Mitsu3000gt>

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by lint
&lt;Mitsu3000gt&gt;something something nikon something my cat&lt;/Mitsu3000gt&gt;

It gets funnier every time :thumbsup:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Canon embraces the DSLR HD Video trend with the 5D MkII:

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/08091705canon_5dmarkII.asp




"Recently introduced with the new EOS 50D, Canon's "CA" Creative Full Auto setting can also be found on the EOS 5D Mark II Digital SLR camera's mode dial. This setting allows users to make image adjustments such as aperture or shutter speed through an easy-to-understand navigation screen on the camera's LCD menu, allowing them to "blur the background" or "lighten or darken the image." These easy-to-understand image options allow photographers to experiment with image options while still shooting in an automatic mode. "


Needs more Direct Print buttons, I think. ;)

[KKY]

whoever selling their 5D please let me know. :D

[Phihalo]

Hello all canon fans! anyone got a chance to see the specs from the website? I can't get it to load probably due to traffics, anyone wanna screen print? :D

[BerserkerCatSplat]

All the specs can be seen at the link I posted in the Pre-Photokina thread.

[SprayGUN]

Key Specifications:

New 21.1 Megapixel CMOS sensor with improved EOS Integrated Cleaning System (E.I.C.S.)
New Full HD 1080 resolution movie recording
3.9 frames per second continuous shooting
High performance DIGIC 4 providing superb image quality
Maximum 310 large JPEG images in a single burst with a UDMA card
3.0” VGA (920k dots) Clear View LCD
ISO 100-6400 (expansion from 50 up to 25,600)
9 AF points + 6 Assist AF points

$2700

I want one. Right now!

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0809/canon/5D%20MarkII/Design-Cut-(15)_001.jpg

[Melinda]

Wow, 3 years to release that? Aside from the more attractive price, it doesn't seem all that spectacular of an upgrade. No one needs 20+ megapixels, bejeebus.

[SprayGUN]

Originally posted by Melinda
Wow, 3 years to release that? Aside from the more attractive price, it doesn't seem all that spectacular of an upgrade. No one needs 20+ megapixels, bejeebus. I need 20mpx. I can then become a 1337 pro photographer who is better than everybody else with the most megapixels :rofl:

In all seriousness. I'm seeing a trend here with video recording. Who else is going to follow suit and who is going to do the best?

[C4S]

Good .. awesome ..


I guess this is .. SHOWHAND from Canon .

Agree with Melinda .. dont really care about 21 MP and movie .(nice to hv, for kids or babies)

However, for market point of view .. Canon needs that .. price is better then expect too, $2700 US (probably 2999 Cad)

Just like we dont need 600 HP etc ..

As long as Canon doesn`t charge more for the high MP .. I dont mind .. ( even 15MP or 21MP, will be in this price too )

I guess when Canon call it mark II, they hv confident on the 5D series ..

Only down side is .. I wish .. this is called 3D .. :D

I am happy about the news ... and mean, my less then 300 shots 5D will be for sale!

[Melinda]

Originally posted by SprayGUN
In all seriousness. I'm seeing a trend here with video recording. Who else is going to follow suit and who is going to do the best?
I can see the sellability feature of being able to shoot video, but the 5D was (to begin with) marketed to the pro photographers. I don't honestly see why a pro photog would really need this feature. Nice to have I guess, but really not all that important to an actual photographer.

[C4S]

Originally posted by KKY
whoever selling their 5D please let me know. :D

I will .. but only around 200 actuations now ... by the time when 5DII arrives next month, may be still around 300 actuations ... :D

[KKY]

I bet the next 1D / 1Ds will have video too.

[Phihalo]

i wish that they would bump up the fps instead of the megapixal, oh well, it still looks damn good :D

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by C4S


I will .. but only around 200 actuations now ... by the time when 5DII arrives next month, may be still around 300 actuations ... :D

Have you ever sold a camera with more than 1000 shutters on it? ;)

[lint]

Originally posted by Melinda

I can see the sellability feature of being able to shoot video, but the 5D was (to begin with) marketed to the pro photographers. I don't honestly see why a pro photog would really need this feature. Nice to have I guess, but really not all that important to an actual photographer.

Wasn't the 5d marketed as a low cost full frame alternative to the pro-sumer market, not the pro market (1ds)?

[D'z Nutz]

Originally posted by KKY
whoever selling their 5D please let me know. :D

I got a friend selling a 5D + grip if you're interested. Less than 8000 actuations.


Originally posted by Melinda
Wow, 3 years to release that? Aside from the more attractive price, it doesn't seem all that spectacular of an upgrade. No one needs 20+ megapixels, bejeebus.

It probably only took them 6 months to release that. The other 2.5 years Canon was probably sitting on their asses thinking they had the whole full frame industry in their hands. Whoops!

[Mitsu3000gt]

Based on Canon's historical releases, I think this is pretty much exactly what everyone was expecting. A very minor upgrade, still in the MP war, and something that shouldn't cannibalize too many 1D sales. I think a lot of people will be sticking with the 5D MK1 unless they want more MP.

Something more interesting IMO would have had 10-15MP at the absolute maximum, perhaps a gapless sensor like the 50D, AF from the 1D, more FPS, a bigger buffer, and true weather sealing. Either way I'm sure they won't have trouble selling them - the more competition there is, the better it is for everyone.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Meow

[AccentAE86]

I'm totally bummed that the 45 point AF system isn't in there. That is what I wanted so bad. Oh well. I'm sure the 15 point system is decent but nothing beats the 45 points. I've never had AF problems on either of my mark III bodies... they all focused like champs.

[lint]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
Based on Canon's historical releases, I think this is pretty much exactly what everyone was expecting. A very minor upgrade, still in the MP war, and something that shouldn't cannibalize too many 1D sales. I think a lot of people will be sticking with the 5D MK1 unless they want more MP.


Why would the 5d cannibalize 1d sales when the 1d is 1/3 crop and aimed at sports shooters? Or did you mean the 1ds?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by lint


Why would the 5d cannibalize 1d sales when the 1d is 1/3 crop and aimed at sports shooters? Or did you mean the 1ds?

I just mean their pro line cameras in general I didn't mean any specific camera. You're right though that the 1D is not a full frame so it isn't as comparable. Offering all of the 1 series camera features in the 5D MKII would surely take away from 1 series sales at least to some degree. From a marketing standpoint, I think Canon is doing exactly what they should be to generate the most sales.

[C4S]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Have you ever sold a camera with more than 1000 shutters on it? ;)

Oh yeah .. when I sold my 20D, first 5D .. but may be 5K clicks..

I mainly use the 1DIII, I like it a lots, still, Canon's wide angle lens are not the best, with FF, still quite a bit distortion etc .. on 1.3X .. no problem at all, I have 9 or 10K on my 1DIII ..

Just his 5D, I bought it because I needed the "double" rebate .. :D

I used my camera, but not like machine gun .. even wedding .. I may do 500 shots max ..


I am old fashion .. alway think "Film" . :( :)

Anyway, still few weeks to a month to go till the new 5DII is out .. and it has everything I expect .. and now, there is a "REASON" for me .. I need the MOVIE feature ..

Same hardware on AF system .. but hopefully newer/better software will help ..

In general .. weather proof/dust proof is the main weakness on 5D, AF/metering is just "fair" as well .. ;)

[benyl]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt

Something more interesting IMO would have had 10-15MP at the absolute maximum, perhaps a gapless sensor like the 50D, AF from the 1D, more FPS, a bigger buffer, and true weather sealing.

Wait, so at almost 4 fps, a 310 image buffer from a single burst isn't enough? How much of a bigger buffer do you need to make it more interesting?

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by benyl


How much of a bigger buffer do you need to make it more interesting?

Maybe he's got a lot of cats.

[rage2]

Originally posted by C4S
Agree with Melinda .. dont really care about 21 MP and movie .(nice to hv, for kids or babies)
I'm probably the only one that is excited over the video functionality. I've been toying with videography for a while now (remember the old beyond vids? haha) and hit a wall in terms of video quality. I got myself a DSLR to learn more about shooting before commiting on a HD cam that has interchangable lenses (they're retarded expensive). Now that new DSLR's have this feature, it saves me a huge amount of $. It does HD vids, with interchangable lenses so you can really setup a scene with any look and feel, depth that you want, it's perfect!

But ya, I'm probably 1 out of a million that wants that feature lol.

[lint]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Maybe he's got a lot of cats.

Just one. But when you're trying to make a holographic 3d image based on thousands of center-point focus middle of the frame shots, while you walk around and hope that it doesn't move, you need more buffer and machine gun-like fps.

[lint]

Originally posted by rage2
But ya, I'm probably 1 out of a million that wants to create my own hd homemade pr0n lol.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by benyl


Wait, so at almost 4 fps, a 310 image buffer from a single burst isn't enough? How much of a bigger buffer do you need to make it more interesting?

My understanding was that the RAW buffer was 13 images and that is what I made my comment about - perhaps I should have been more specific. If I had the number wrong then I apologize and I stand corrected. Put a camera in JPEG and I'm sure you can get huge bursts out of most DSLRs these days. I think most people interested in a camera in the class of the 5DII would likely be shooting RAW most of the time so I thought that was a relevant piece of information for some. Not everyone has 5-8 grand to spend on a 1 series. I am not bashing the camera at all, I was simply stating what I thought would have made it a more interesting release.



Originally posted by lint


Just one. But when you're trying to make a holographic 3d image based on thousands of center-point focus middle of the frame shots, while you walk around and hope that it doesn't move, you need more buffer and machine gun-like fps.

I was bored and I did a quick little analysis just for you....I quickly looked at all of the pictures I have on my hard drive. I have almost 11,000 actuations on my camera. Roughly 50 are of cats, and roughly 500 were pictures taken in my back yard (I enjoy photographing birds and flowers so that is why I am often in my yard - my sincerest apologies). I would bet that 0.45% of your pictures (or anyone else's) are of the same or similar things. You have made a joke about cat pictures FAR more times than I have actually made threads including a picture of my cat, which all started I believe when I posted a small portion of my Sigma 18-50 test shots where I simply used my cat as a test subject for one of the tests so there were a bunch of cat pictures in that thread. After that, I've posted the odd cat pic, and one for demonstration purposes only where I fully acknowledged the fact that it was a shitty picture. Certainly no more often than anyone else posts pictures of their pets (i.e. most post your latest pic threads have plenty of dog pics, bird pics, etc.) That said, I do find your cat jokes somewhat clever and amusing lol so feel free to keep them up.

As for the HDRs, I apologize that my first ever attempt at an HDR was not up to your standards :rofl: I also understand that HDRs are not everyone's cup of tea. You must get everything right the first time though, right?

What surprises me the most is how adamant some people are here about trying to tell others how to enjoy photography. If some people think that I am a bad influence (because I also have an interest on the technical side of things), again, I maintain that they should be taking a closer look at the messages they are sending as well. If anyone is worried about something I say influencing someone's purchase, I would be far more concerned about the person willing to take one random guy's opinion on an internet forum and use that as the sole basis for their decision.

Anyways, I don't expect anything to change, so carry on, and I am thoroughly amused by how carefully some people here enjoy analyzing every last word of every post I make to try and find something to argue about - I am flattered by how much you care about what I have to say. I will continue to fuel the fire for my own amusement :D Just think of the cat pictures I'll be able to get if the rumored D3X and 70-200VR II come out :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I hope it has a good center focus point!!:rofl:

[lint]

hologram != hdr
can't wait to see what that crafty cat is up to :thumbsup

[Bukka]

You know what I would have enjoyed more than any feature on the 5D MKII? AF coverage that covers more than the center of the frame. They could have kept the damn camera the same, and made the AF coverage more full and I would have LOVED it! But they didn't so eff it.

[SprayGUN]

Originally posted by Bukka
You know what I would have enjoyed more than any feature on the 5D MKII? AF coverage that covers more than the center of the frame. They could have kept the damn camera the same, and made the AF coverage more full and I would have LOVED it! But they didn't so eff it. That's a huge drawback to this unit. But reading this review by Vincent Laforets is convincing me to save up for one.

http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/

[Bukka]

Video doesn't interest me. I'd be using it to take photos, so to me things like AF coverage, and the ability of those points to focus properly are importaint to me rather than frame grabs from video.

[SprayGUN]

They got the video down good with it though. Maybe you'll have to switch to nikon to get the AF you want :rofl:

[Bukka]

Nikon has the accuracy, but even their full frames don't have the coverage that I've grown used to on my crop body. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky, who knows. In the meantime I'll just stick with my crop body until nikon or canon can put out a FF with decent coverage..... Maybe get things that may be useful to a photographer down pat before they start hyping up features like 720p and 1080p video.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by SprayGUN


http://blog.vincentlaforet.com/2008/09/20/something-very-interesting-is-comingboth-to-this-blog-and-to-our-industry/

Finally, Canon seems to have gotten its own Ken Rockwell. :rofl:



Also, new Nikon 50mm.

http://images.quickblogcast.com/3/2/2/2/2/130718-122223/Nikon_prime.jpg

# AF-S 50mm lens — a fast, single-focal-length lens with normal picture angle (when attached to a DX-format SLR, the picture angle is equivalent to a focal length of 75mm in FX/35mm format)
# Large maximum aperture of f/1.4
# Well-balanced design realizes both high MTF performance and natural-looking picture blur
# Newly developed optical system effectively corrects sagittal coma flare and coma aberration
# Silent Wave Motor (SWM) ensures smooth, quiet AF operation
# Two focus modes are available — M/A (manual-priority autofocus) and M (manual focus)
# Focus ring does not rotate in AF operation
# Natural blur effects thanks to nine-blade rounded diaphragm
# Although all lens groups shift during focusing, the lens barrel length does not change

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Finally, Canon seems to have gotten its own Ken Rockwell. :rofl:





5. This camera will sell for approx. $2,700 - and perform better than many $100K plus video cameras out there…

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[AccentAE86]

d'oh!!!

of course, I recently bought a 50 1.4... a lens that hasn't been updated since forever... and then they update it.

[AccentAE86]

Originally posted by Bukka
Nikon has the accuracy, but even their full frames don't have the coverage that I've grown used to on my crop body. Maybe I'm just being nitpicky, who knows. In the meantime I'll just stick with my crop body until nikon or canon can put out a FF with decent coverage..... Maybe get things that may be useful to a photographer down pat before they start hyping up features like 720p and 1080p video.

I'm very happy with the AF point placement in my D700. The corner points line up awesome in terms of composition. Better than the canon 45 point corner points (though I'm not complaining about the canon 45-point system at all, I LOVE it). But yeah, the 5D AF points are probably the biggest reason I never could get into the 5D. I was hoping the 5D mark II would fix that, but they didn't.

Here's an interesting overlay someone did...
http://www.rjwhetton.co.uk/random/Overlay.jpg

The 5D point placement is pathetic.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

LOL, I was wondering why you were annoyed that Nikon updated the 50/1.4, I thought you sold your D700.

[benyl]

Wow, the 40D has better focal point placement.

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by benyl
Wow, the 40D has better focal point placement.

I suspect it's like the D3/D300 system, where it's the same focus points but on a differently-sized sensor.

D300:

http://a.img-dpreview.com/reviews/NikonD300/Images/viewfinderview.jpg

[The_Rural_Juror]

Are the 50D and 40D AF points identical? And when's that AccentAE86 Canon firesale again?:rofl:

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by AccentAE86


Here's an interesting overlay someone did...
http://www.rjwhetton.co.uk/random/Overlay.jpg

The 5D point placement is pathetic.

This picture illustrates perfectly why Nikon takes better photos of cats.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by The_Rural_Juror


This picture illustrates perfectly why Nikon takes better photos of cats.

It's not dead center though, so not quite :rofl: :rofl: