Dodge Viper ACR - 7:22 around Nurburgring

[xLostx]

http://image.motortrend.com/f/features/auto_news/2008/10528022+w455/112_0808_02l+dodge_viper_ACR+front_three_quarters_view.jpg

vid: http://www.motortrend.com/av/features/112_0811_2009_dodge_viper_acr_nurburgring_record_video/index.html

article: http://www.motortrend.com/features/performance/112_0808_2009_dodge_viper_acr_nurburgring_record/index.html

sounds evil

[GotRice?]

:drool:

[U4RIA]

Damn, America is really stepping up their game.

[Destinova403]

it isnt official yet, but its AMAZING

these ring wars are only going to help the consumer... not that i can actually pay for any of those cars :(

[redline]

Originally posted by U4RIA
Damn, America is really stepping up their game.

too bad it is too late, the new fuel and environmental standards are going to crush these types of cars in the short term

[Inzane]

Excellent!

http://news.filefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/excellent-mr-burns.gif

[4doorj]

man that car looks sooooo good!
american cars are definitly stepping up, and its fun to watch!

[teggypimp95]

The GTR does the ring fast and it looks smooth and easy as it does it.

The new vett and now this viper, sure they do the ring faster, but they sure look like a handful as they do it. Not smooth and controlled like the GTR or the 911. What was with the gear leaver shaken like that?

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
The GTR does the ring fast and it looks smooth and easy as it does it.

The new vett and now this viper, sure they do the ring faster, but they sure look like a handful as they do it. Not smooth and controlled like the GTR or the 911. What was with the gear leaver shaken like that?

Last time I was in a viper, everything shook/rattled. It is one of the biggest POS in my opinion. A fast POS though.

[teggypimp95]

Yeah I have never, Not once, liked a viper no matter how fast they are.

[Inzane]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt
A fast POS though.

And WAY, WAY better looking than the GTR! :poosie:

[Eleanor]

YES!!!!

Man, I absolutely love the Viper. MOPAR FTW!

[dino_martini]

Surprisingly I like it.

[Darkane]

7:22 is blazing.

The V-spec has serious competition. Shit now what?

Prediction: V-spec will do a 7:19, it will be grossly underrated and will put out 600hp.

Only the Viper has a chance to beat it next Year. The Zr-1 needs to much work in one model year to beat the V-spec.

Then the ring war will be over due to fuel... But then again maybe not!

[BigMass]

These cars are such limited production that the waiting lists are years long. I don't see how the price of fuel could ever impact such a small and niche market catering mostly to millionaires.

[imjimmylin]

Just finished watching the vid and wow.. what a fast car. I can't wait to see the V spec lap time.

[mark4091]

Insane.

[rage2]

Originally posted by teggypimp95
What was with the gear leaver shaken like that?
The driver was bouncing off the rev limiter. You lose too much time and speed shifting to the next gear, then downshifting back right away, so you're quicker if you just bounce off the rev limiter and stop accelerating for a little bit.

If the car had a dual clutch tranny, it would've been able to do 2 quick shifts without losing any time or speed... probably cut a good 8-10 seconds off the laptime.

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by rage2
If the car had a dual clutch tranny, it would've been able to do 2 quick shifts without losing any time or speed... probably cut a good 8-10 seconds off the laptime.
If the car had a dual clutch tranny, the Viper would be less of a car in my eyes. The whole point of the viper is to be crude and simple. That's why the car doesn't even have traction control. Does it even have ABS? (EDIT: Yes it does have ABS)

For me the Viper proves that the K.I.S.S. philosophy works.

[BlkMaxima]

Originally posted by Eleanor

If the car had a dual clutch tranny, the Viper would be less of a car in my eyes. The whole point of the viper is to be crude and simple. That's why the car doesn't even have traction control. Does it even have ABS? (EDIT: Yes it does have ABS)

For me the Viper proves that the K.I.S.S. philosophy works.

:werd: Viper = Modern day muscle

[rage2]

Originally posted by Eleanor
If the car had a dual clutch tranny, the Viper would be less of a car in my eyes. The whole point of the viper is to be crude and simple. That's why the car doesn't even have traction control. Does it even have ABS? (EDIT: Yes it does have ABS)

For me the Viper proves that the K.I.S.S. philosophy works.
You're probably right. I'm just saying it would've been a lot faster in comparison to the GT-R which has a dual clutch haha.

I don't even think the Viper ALMS racers had any sequential gearboxes. Imagine rowing thru gears non stop for 12 hrs haha.

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by rage2
You're probably right. I'm just saying it would've been a lot faster in comparison to the GT-R which has a dual clutch haha.
It would've been faster with twins turbos too :D but then again it's more amazing that they used relatively simple technology to best the computer on 4 wheels (GT-R).

I can't remember which magazine I read this in, but one of the testers asked one of the engineers from SRT why they didn't put in some sort of traction control on the car. The SRT engineer pointed at the guy's feet and said "There's your traction control, learn how to use them." That's what makes the Viper one of my favourite cars and why I've promised myself that I will own one someday.

[rage2]

Originally posted by Eleanor
It would've been faster with twins turbos too :D but then again it's more amazing that they used relatively simple technology to best the computer on 4 wheels (GT-R).
No replacement for displacement!


Originally posted by Eleanor
I can't remember which magazine I read this in, but one of the testers asked one of the engineers from SRT why they didn't put in some sort of traction control on the car. The SRT engineer pointed at the guy's feet and said "There's your traction control, learn how to use them." That's what makes the Viper one of my favourite cars and why I've promised myself that I will own one someday.
I never found the Viper hard to drive. Sure it's brutal and wear you out, but it's not a difficult car to drive. For me, I wanna own and master a 964 Turbo 3.6 someday... the one in the original bad boys. That's one of my favorite classic cars. Last of the true 911's. It's one of the few cars that's scared me, but then again, I haven't driven one in ages, and my driving has gotten a lot better since then.

[tentacles]

Only the Viper has a chance to beat it next Year. The Zr-1 needs to much work in one model year to beat the V-spec.

Nah.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3600/attachmentow2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3600/ (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=&i=attachmentow2.jpg)

Although it looks like they detuned the LS3.

[Canmorite]

That car does sounds evil. I love the rawness and simplicity to the Vipers. Total bad-ass car.

[imjimmylin]

http://image.motortrend.com/f/10528073/112_0808_19z+dodge_viper_ACR+spoiler.jpg

Love that picture from the article..

[m10-power]

holy understeer batman!

DSG will be nice once they can build them to handle the instant torque of a big engine. But I'm old and would stay with a manual shifter for now.

[herragge]

Originally posted by Mitsu3000gt


Last time I was in a viper, everything shook/rattled. It is one of the biggest POS in my opinion. A fast POS though.

Hahahaha

Wow by watching that video, if the lever actually does actually shake when it hits the limiter, it was hitting the limiter alot!

Incredible lap time. Done with absolute brute force too. Props.

[LancerShelby]

This car doesn't have a audio system as well as other things to lighten it up 40lbs, plus the most important part is that it uses Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires....road race tires. Not positive on the GTR but the ZR1 did it on run flat Michelin PS2's. Big difference in grip there.

[mikestypes]

Originally posted by LancerShelby
This car doesn't have a audio system as well as other things to lighten it up 40lbs, plus the most important part is that it uses Michelin Pilot Sport Cup tires....road race tires. Not positive on the GTR but the ZR1 did it on run flat Michelin PS2's. Big difference in grip there.

The Viper was also using the front splitter, which is not legal for road use.

While the rev limiter use was warranted for most of the lap, when he was on the straight, he definitely could have upshifted to 5th and gone faster.

[Destinova403]

they released 2 more videos of the run

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/05/video-dodge-viper-acrs-record-ring-lap-two-views/

heres the external one
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[Darkane]

Originally posted by tentacles


Nah.

http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3600/attachmentow2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/3600/ (http://g.imageshack.us/g.php?h=&i=attachmentow2.jpg)

Although it looks like they detuned the LS3.

Believe me, I'm a chevy fanboy. I'd like nothing better than the Zr1 to take it.

But the Viper has the setup for it. Will MORE power be the key for the vette? It seems the viper has a good balance right now so by added 25-50ponies they could drop their time significantly. If they added that power to the vette it might start to get get way to sloppy.

That's what I was trying to portray.. But who knows? Exciting stuff.

Has anyone ever raced a bike, say R1 on the ring before? Gonna google right now.

EDIT: 2007 R1 lapped it in 7:28.8 bahah. Fuck cars are fast now.

[alloroc]

Originally posted by Darkane
Has anyone ever raced a bike, say R1 on the ring before? Gonna google right now.

EDIT: 2007 R1 lapped it in 7:28.8 bahah. Fuck cars are fast now.

heh but how many R1's could you buy ( and insure) in lieu of that modded viper?

[syritis]

cars have always been faster on the road coarse, the accelerating on a bike is better yes but the stopping and cornering of cars is far superior due to the multiple and wider tires.

7:22 and he miss shifted twice. stereo is optional but cup holders are always included. :rofl:

[b_t]

Originally posted by mikestypes


The Viper was also using the front splitter, which is not legal for road use.

While the rev limiter use was warranted for most of the lap, when he was on the straight, he definitely could have upshifted to 5th and gone faster.

not really. the ACR has retarded long gears, barely accelerates in the top two

[Eleanor]

^ Good fuel economy too then :D

[tm88]

looks like a super rough ride but damn sexy

[Synne]

Hands down, all these cars are impressive...nice to see the americans and the japanese besting the europeans in their own backyard...

...for now at least ;)

[Casa]

Originally posted by Synne
Hands down, all these cars are impressive...nice to see the americans and the japanese besting the europeans in their own backyard...

...for now at least ;)

unreal run by that Viper.