G35 or 325i?

[SteveMo600]

I'm looking to "upgrade" and purchase a new vehicle. I've narrowed it down to a couple choices and am looking for a bit of input.

I'm just looking for a daily driver and am not gonna touch it mod wise. Looking to purchase an 04-05 that hopefully still has a year or two on warranty.

Basically, I think that a 04/05 G35 and an 04 325i are within my price range of $20-25k.

Any information or opinions on either car would be great. Also, any suggestions for something else would be appreciated as well.

[pf0sh0]

g35 :D

[DannyO]

I voted for the 325, but its a close one unless you are talking about getting 4 doors, then its 325 all the way.

[euro_racer]

if you go for a coupe then g35, if sedan then got for the 325

[95EG6P]

Originally posted by euro_racer
if you go for a coupe then g35, if sedan then got for the 325

+1

[SteveMo600]

Sorry to clarify, I would only consider a G35 coupe. The BMW, I could live with either.

I have also pondered the idea of a 330 but I think it's out of my price range.

[AE92_TreunoSC]

Neither are really reliable by any means.

I agree with the coupe to sedan comment.

I'd go with the G for power, and the 325 for interior and drive quality.

[gpomp]

i can't stand the interior of the g35, coupe or sedan. it doesn't drive nearly as nice either so i pick the 325.

[TorqueDog]

It's a tough one.

Sedan: BMW, hands down.
Coupe: Decide which one looks better to you, and buy that one. The G35 coupe is nice... I like the drive of the BMW better, but the G35 has more power, which is why I'd probably go with the G.

[nightfx]

G35, only cause it has more power.

[nbaker00]

G35 without question in my mind

[Ukyo8]

Originally posted by euro_racer
if you go for a coupe then g35, if sedan then got for the 325

+1

[vengie]

g35! i may be a bit biased tho :D

[pinoyhero]

Check the IS300 as well, owned one and deserves to be on your list.

[schocker]

Yes, G35 for Coupe, 325i for sedan.

[mac_82]

G

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by pinoyhero
Check the IS300 as well, owned one and deserves to be on your list. Yeah, I second this.


I don't think you'll quite appreciate the G35 or the BMW until you look at the glammed up RWD Camry and go "Uhhhh... no.".

[schocker]

Originally posted by TorqueDog
Yeah, I second this.


I don't think you'll quite appreciate the G35 or the BMW until you look at the glammed up RWD Camry and go "Uhhhh... no.".
:rofl:

[Casa]

Originally posted by pinoyhero
Check the IS300 as well, owned one and deserves to be on your list.

+1

[heavyD]

Originally posted by AE92_TreunoSC
Neither are really reliable by any means.

I agree. You would be better off getting something more reliable than either of these two cars used for $25K.

[Mckenzie]

Between the two you have, I would also second a look at the IS300. Its build quality is 10x both cars and is also a zippy fun little car to drive. Calgary Lexus also has the best service from any dealer I have ever been to (Acura / Infinity and BMW).

The g35 is the worst daily driver to possibly buy. Its expensive on gas, has no trunk / back seat making it useless to put things in, is not easy to drive around in manual if in the city and repairs are pretty expensive.

Cannot say much for the 325i except it will be underpowered compared to the g35. Repairs and maintenance are also expensive, not to mention you have to deal with the fine people at Calgary BMW.

[LUCKYSTRIKE]

Id go for the IS300 over the G, however, the rear seat space in the IS300 is probably just as bad as the 2 door G.

[TorqueDog]

Are you guys on crack? The IS300 has one of the most lacklustre interiors I've ever seen. Compared to the G35 and the BMW, you might as well jump in an horse-drawn carriage if you're getting the IS300.

It's like the old Acura EL 1.6s with the cloth interiors... you might as well have bought a Civic and paid the dealer $30 for some Acura badges.

[quincyb11]

Wasn't some guy on here selling a white g35 coupe for 25 to 27k??

[3clips3]

I have a white G35 coupe for sale... ;)

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/229663/fs-2004-infiniti-g35-coupe/

[quincyb11]

U better get on this, its a nice ride. White is pretty rare as well.


Originally posted by 3clips3
I have a white G35 coupe for sale... ;)

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/229663/fs-2004-infiniti-g35-coupe/

[SteveMo600]

Are the G35's really that brutal daily drivers? I really need to drive one to get a better idea, but I thought they would be a good all round car.

A relative just got a 330xi and I love it. Figured a 325 would be my economical alternative.

I am really not feeling the IS300, I agree with TorqueDog that they really remind me of an older civic of Acura 1.6.

I'd imagine repairs on a 325 would be a lot more expensive than the G35, no?

[rc2002]

The G35 Sedan would be one of the last cars on my list. They look like ass and drive like ass. They look great on paper though.

If you drive the G35 and 325 back to back, I'm pretty sure you'd end up with a 325. The power difference, while it looks like a lot on paper, really isn't all that much when you actually drive the two cars.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by richardchan2002
The G35 Sedan would be one of the last cars on my list. They look like ass and drive like ass. They look great on paper though.

If you drive the G35 and 325 back to back, I'm pretty sure you'd end up with a 325. The power difference, while it looks like a lot on paper, really isn't all that much when you actually drive the two cars.

I think the "looking like ass" is in the eye of the beholder. I think the coupe's look great.

If I'm correct, the power difference is nearly 100HP for the 04' models. I find it hard to believe that I couldn't tell the difference?

What would you recommend in the 20-25k price range?

[TorqueDog]

I think you'll like the handling on the 325i better.

You really need to go test drive 'em both, dude.

[JTL_ZXTT]

There are many other used cars you can look at for 25k.

Subaru WRX
VW GTI
Civic Si
Mini Cooper S
Acura TL/TSX
Legacy GT
Lexus IS



And if you are deciding between 325/G35
325- Handling/Balance
G35- Power/Good looks

Basically in the end its what you want- and TEST DRIVE every car you are considering and you will find your answer.


p.s- daily driver fun buy a honda fit that you can drive/rev like you life depended on it- and you wouldnt have to think twice about it! and the 10k you save buy a kawasaki ninja for summer :thumbsup: - plus you would be saving gas and the environment...

[Sorath]

g35 hands down if its only the 2 ur comparing, personally i`d pick up a used TL

[ipeefreely]

Originally posted by Ukyo8


+1

+2

:)

[Aleks]

If you're only considering a 325i sedan vs G35 sedan I'd pick the 325. G35 is of that vintage is a Very boring car.

[BigMass]

here, try something with power and that's not driven by %50 of the people living in Calgary :thumbsup:

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/232778/fs-2004-cadillac-cts-v/

[rc2002]

Originally posted by SteveMo600


I think the "looking like ass" is in the eye of the beholder. I think the coupe's look great.

If I'm correct, the power difference is nearly 100HP for the 04' models. I find it hard to believe that I couldn't tell the difference?

What would you recommend in the 20-25k price range?

I like the coupe, just not the sedan. The power difference between coupe and sedan is nowhere near 100hp. It is 20hp (260hp vs 280hp).

I'd recommend getting an Audi S4. They can be had for around that price now. You'd be looking at an older one that is most likely out of warranty but you might get lucky and find an owner who purchased the extended warranty.

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by BigMass
here, try something with power and that's not driven by %50 of the people living in Calgary :thumbsup:

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/232778/fs-2004-cadillac-cts-v/ Nice cars, but a bit 'fuel thirsty' compared to what he's look at otherwise, no?

Actually from what I've heard from some VQ owners, the BMW might be the most fuel efficient one of the 'choices'.

[MMAfighter]

The G35 ain't that great to be honest. I have the coupe, and that car is just too heavy, but has a decent power to back it up.

Do not get the G35 in auto, get it in stick. The automatic transition is too much of a bottleneck for this car.

I also agree with the sedan/coupe argument, you know the latter.

Good points for BMW - great handling, possible better than the G, better MPG, better interior, and of course performance all around (the HP is decent, and has a nice punch to it.)

Good points for the G 35 - More HP, definitely feel the torque off the bat, bose sound system, and nice leather quality (I like mine =P)

[MMAfighter]

Originally posted by Aleks
If you're only considering a 325i sedan vs G35 sedan I'd pick the 325. G35 is of that vintage is a Very boring car.

Sadly, I feel this way, but I'm also that guy who got it in auto :thumbsdow

[MMAfighter]

Originally posted by SteveMo600


I think the "looking like ass" is in the eye of the beholder. I think the coupe's look great.

If I'm correct, the power difference is nearly 100HP for the 04' models. I find it hard to believe that I couldn't tell the difference?

What would you recommend in the 20-25k price range?

The look is bleh, not sharp as the TL type S, but has a bold look to it.

I think the best part is the back side, but thats just imo. Oh, and a warning to new G 35 buyers, the re sale value of this car is horrendous, and if you don't take good care of it (considering it's from Nissan) you'll have a lot of problems with it down the line.

[Super_Geo]

E46 325i + Koni FSDs (http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/tests/koni_fsd.jsp) = :love:

http://www.tirerack.com/images/suspension/tests/koni_fsd/chart_1.gif
http://www.tirerack.com/images/suspension/tests/koni_fsd/chart_2.gif
http://www.tirerack.com/images/suspension/tests/koni_fsd/chart_3.gif
http://www.tirerack.com/images/suspension/tests/koni_fsd/chart_4.gif

[aklalani]

Originally posted by Sorath
g35 hands down if its only the 2 ur comparing, personally i`d pick up a used TL

+1 for the TL

[Casa]

i'd recommend a WRX STI
expensive on maintainence and not so great on gas
but .... BOOOST is worth it haha

[Pollywog]

Originally posted by AE92_TreunoSC
Neither are really reliable by any means.

I agree with the coupe to sedan comment.

I'd go with the G for power, and the 325 for interior and drive quality. Neither are really reliable? I've drove two g35's since 2003 (and an 06) and I havn't had one issue with EITHER.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by JTL_ZXTT
There are many other used cars you can look at for 25k.

Subaru WRX
VW GTI
Civic Si
Mini Cooper S
Acura TL/TSX
Legacy GT
Lexus IS



And if you are deciding between 325/G35
325- Handling/Balance
G35- Power/Good looks

Basically in the end its what you want- and TEST DRIVE every car you are considering and you will find your answer.


p.s- daily driver fun buy a honda fit that you can drive/rev like you life depended on it- and you wouldnt have to think twice about it! and the 10k you save buy a kawasaki ninja for summer :thumbsup: - plus you would be saving gas and the environment...

Great post. Thanks very much.

I'm not really interested in any sort of tuner vehicle like a WRX or a Civic. I want something a bit more classy and something more "mature." I want something well rounded.

Any actual 325i or G35 OWNERS that have had issues with either vehicle?

[AE92_TreunoSC]

I'm a 325 owner, I love the car but it has a few flaws, like small buttons not working, and the tail light wire. Also my seat has a tear from wear already (100k).

But I'm also a German and Import specialist.

I've seen huge problems on G35's from leaking injectors which almost cause a hydrolock, multiple check engine lights due to faulty MAF's and coils. Leaking rear diffs from the housing. etc...

E46's problems generally are wiring and SMG related. Also, they will overheat if the coolant isnt in good condition.

Both are expensive to fix, the trick is to find one in good shape. Lower km's the better. Try and stay under 150k if you can.

[blownz]

Originally posted by Super_Geo
E46 325i + Koni FSDs (http://www.tirerack.com/suspension/tests/koni_fsd.jsp) = :love:


I totally agree with this and can attest to it as I have that setup. :thumbsup:




Originally posted by AE92_TreunoSC
I'm a 325 owner, I love the car but it has a few flaws, like small buttons not working, and the tail light wire.

That is the only problem I had with my 03. Passenger front signal light wiring and passenger side tail light wiring. Aside from that the car was solid for 4 years and 70k.


I would totally go for the 325. Only downside is power. But they aren't really slow and if you don't have a mullet you should be fine. :D Aside from that they are amazing well rounded cars. :thumbsup:

[EM1FTW]

g35 for the coupe and 3 series for sedan!

[Casa]

Originally posted by Pollywog
Neither are really reliable? I've drove two g35's since 2003 (and an 06) and I havn't had one issue with EITHER.

same with my Dad
he had an 03
ZERO problems
he drives an 06 G35X
ZERO Problems

its recommended on consumer reports and Edmunds for the last 6 years

facking nabs spreading misinformation
I have a friend who has an E46 328i and he's spent some serious time repairing his car, quite often. He goes through suspension parts like monthly (and his car has 110xxxkm), he's had his taillights die twice, sunroof issues, and last week he thinks his tranny isn't working properly.. i'd stay away. Off warranty BMW is a scary thing especially if you're not sure how well maintained they are.
check out carsurvey.org (http://carsurvey.org/review_104869.html) and Edmunds consumer reviews for a better picture. Meanwhile as I said before, the G35 has been recommended for over 5 years straight, is super reliable, is Japanese, and is a lotttt better looking.

[MMAfighter]

Originally posted by Casa


same with my Dad
he had an 03
ZERO problems
he drives an 06 G35X
ZERO Problems

its recommended on consumer reports and Edmunds for the last 6 years

facking nabs spreading misinformation
I have a friend who has an E46 328i and he's spent some serious time repairing his car, quite often. He goes through suspension parts like monthly (and his car has 110xxxkm), he's had his taillights die twice, sunroof issues, and last week he thinks his tranny isn't working properly.. i'd stay away. Off warranty BMW is a scary thing especially if you're not sure how well maintained they are.
check out carsurvey.org (http://carsurvey.org/review_104869.html) and Edmunds consumer reviews for a better picture. Meanwhile as I said before, the G35 has been recommended for over 5 years straight, is super reliable, is Japanese, and is a lotttt better looking.

True, but the newer BMW's are really reliable. I think cuz of the 3 series, BMW is 3rd behind Toyota in reliability and quality.

But I agree, the G is a nice car. Only thing I don't like about it is that it's too heavy, burns gas like water (no matter how slow you drive it.), automatic transmission sucks ass (I have the automatic G35 coupe), the interior is bleh, and handles aren't that great.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by MMAfighter


True, but the newer BMW's are really reliable. I think cuz of the 3 series, BMW is 3rd behind Toyota in reliability and quality.

But I agree, the G is a nice car. Only thing I don't like about it is that it's too heavy, burns gas like water (no matter how slow you drive it.), automatic transmission sucks ass (I have the automatic G35 coupe), the interior is bleh, and handles aren't that great.

I think both the G and the 325 are fairly reliable vehicles, with the difference being that the BMW would be more expensive on repairs. No?

How poor is your infiniti's gas mileage?

[BlkMaxima]

Isn't the 325i a 4 cyl?

If it is, how is this even a close comparisson?

Either way I like the G35.

[schocker]

Originally posted by BlkMaxima
Isn't the 325i a 4 cyl?

If it is, how is this even a close comparisson?

Either way I like the G35.
inline 6....

[MMAfighter]

Originally posted by SteveMo600


I think both the G and the 325 are fairly reliable vehicles, with the difference being that the BMW would be more expensive on repairs. No?

How poor is your infiniti's gas mileage?

Yea, I agree.

It says 19 mpg on paper, but its more like 16-17. Quarter tank will take me 68 miles. Now thats horrid if you're a daily commuter.

Of course I'm speaking for myself, not for every G 35 owner. I don't know how the newer sedans or the G37 drive, nor have I test drivin any of them.

[BlkMaxima]

Originally posted by schocker

inline 6....

I see. Makes more sense now.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Casa


same with my Dad
he had an 03
ZERO problems
he drives an 06 G35X
ZERO Problems

its recommended on consumer reports and Edmunds for the last 6 years

facking nabs spreading misinformation
I have a friend who has an E46 328i and he's spent some serious time repairing his car, quite often. He goes through suspension parts like monthly (and his car has 110xxxkm), he's had his taillights die twice, sunroof issues, and last week he thinks his tranny isn't working properly.. i'd stay away. Off warranty BMW is a scary thing especially if you're not sure how well maintained they are.
check out carsurvey.org (http://carsurvey.org/review_104869.html) and Edmunds consumer reviews for a better picture. Meanwhile as I said before, the G35 has been recommended for over 5 years straight, is super reliable, is Japanese, and is a lotttt better looking.

That web site is weak. Try something more legit such as consumer reports;

http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4023544

Notice on the list of most unrealiable vehicles that only one Japanese car maker appears. Not only once but four times and it's Nissan. IMO they are a 2nd tier Japanese car company that build below average quality vehicles.

Fuck there's a guy with a six month old Frontier at work here and its been in monthly for water leaks in the interior and replaced ecu's.....JUNK! Nissan isn't only behind Toyota and Honda in reliability they lag behind smaller Japanese manufacturers like Subaru & Mitsubishi.

It appears that Nissan's famed Super Car is crap as well as Edmunds long term GTR has been in the hop on a steady basis:

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2008/09/2009-nissan-gt-r-back-to-the-dealer-again.html

[Casa]

oh HeavyD shut upppp you Mitsu fanboy :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Casa
oh HeavyD shut upppp you Mitsu fanboy :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Why? Just letting people know that Nissan doesn't have typical Japanese reliability. What's wrong with the truth?

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by heavyD


That web site is weak. Try something more legit such as consumer reports;

http://autos.msn.com/advice/CRArt.aspx?contentid=4023544

Notice on the list of most unrealiable vehicles that only one Japanese car maker appears. Not only once but four times and it's Nissan. IMO they are a 2nd tier Japanese car company that build below average quality vehicles.

Fuck there's a guy with a six month old Frontier at work here and its been in monthly for water leaks in the interior and replaced ecu's.....JUNK! Nissan isn't only behind Toyota and Honda in reliability they lag behind smaller Japanese manufacturers like Subaru & Mitsubishi.

It appears that Nissan's famed Super Car is crap as well as Edmunds long term GTR has been in the hop on a steady basis:

http://blogs.edmunds.com/roadtests/2008/09/2009-nissan-gt-r-back-to-the-dealer-again.html

This website is definitely much more helpful and trustworthy.

The problem is, I really don't like any of the luxury cars offered by Toyota or Honda. They're great cars for those solely looking for practicality and reliability.

I'm looking for a luxury sedan with some practicality and more reliability than a DSM, but still something with some class.

Also, I don't plan on bagging the shit out of the car. I would imagine a large number of the vehicles that fall within the "unreliable" column in that article, are driven to the ground.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by SteveMo600
This website is definitely much more helpful and trustworthy.
Originally posted by SteveMo600
The problem is, I really don't like any of the luxury cars offered by Toyota or Honda. They're great cars for those solely looking for practicality and reliability.
Fair and I agree that Toyota and Honda make bland vehicles.


Originally posted by SteveMo600
I'm looking for a luxury sedan with some practicality and more reliability than a DSM, but still something with some class.
DSM's haven't been made for ten years and have nothing to do with the conversation?:confused:


Originally posted by SteveMo600 Also, I don't plan on bagging the shit out of the car. I would imagine a large number of the vehicles that fall within the "unreliable" column in that article, are driven to the ground.
No. They are just bad vehicles.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by heavyD

DSM's haven't been made for ten years and have nothing to do with the conversation?:confused:

No. They are just bad vehicles.




I am just making a contrast as DSMs have a history of constant problems.

I agree, most of them are bad vehicles but I think that some of the "unreliability" is influenced by poor drivers. The Civics, Camry's, Fit's etc are all usually driven by a market that takes care of their vehicles, which will prolong the life and decrease the likelihood of problems.

I guess I'm just a firm believer that the owner has a large influence in the reliability and how long a vehicle will last.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by SteveMo600



I am just making a contrast as DSMs have a history of constant problems.

I agree, most of them are bad vehicles but I think that some of the "unreliability" is influenced by poor drivers. The Civics, Camry's, Fit's etc are all usually driven by a market that takes care of their vehicles, which will prolong the life and decrease the likelihood of problems.

I guess I'm just a firm believer that the owner has a large influence in the reliability and how long a vehicle will last.

So in your opinion Nissan has poor reliability because owners tend to bag on them more than owners of Hondas and Toyotas? Salesmen must love people like you.:nut:

[AE92_TreunoSC]

People that use their cars to relate to the large percentage of cars make me laugh.

They remind me of F150 owners when they say "I never had any problems, nor did my dad"

I'm an import technician, I've seen the problems with them. And like HeavyD says, Nissan has subpar build quality.

People give Nissan way too much credit. They make nice cars, but they never hold up nearly as well as an equivalent honda or toyota.

I'd put them on par with BMW and Audi.

[Casa]

Originally posted by AE92_TreunoSC
People that use their cars to relate to the large percentage of cars make me laugh.

They remind me of F150 owners when they say "I never had any problems, nor did my dad"

I'm an import technician, I've seen the problems with them. And like HeavyD says, Nissan has subpar build quality.

People give Nissan way too much credit. They make nice cars, but they never hold up nearly as well as an equivalent honda or toyota.

I'd put them on par with BMW and Audi.

I'd disagree immensely. First, lets go by facts. Find a Nissan not on the consumer reports recommended list.. very few of them aren't, just the larger pickup trucks and suv's as of late haven't been recommended (i don't believe Audi or BMW make recommended SUV's either...). All their midsize suv's and vehicles, such as the Maxima, Altima, and the newer Murano, have been recommended for years and years. All the Infiniti lineup was recommended except for their big suv, the QX56... where's the 325i on the recommended list bud? no where to be seen. German cars handle a little better, but you pay for it in maintainence, big time.
My mechanic, who has his own mechanic shop, who has specialized in German cars for over 25 years, such as BMW, Audi, and Mercedes, believes Japanese cars are about twice as reliable than any German car. to say that Nissan is as reliable as BMW and Audi is absolute garbage. What if I was new to the forums, i didn't know much about cars, didn't know anything about reliability and someone was saying Nissan was as reliable as BMW/Audi? ummm misinformation central here, and this is why i'm even responding to a post of such BS. I've owned Nissans, my friends have owned Nissans, my parents have owned Nissans, and i haven't heard one horror story. Don't even get me started on BMW's.. everyone knows they're money pits off warranty. You can't compare a 2000 Nissan Altima/Maxima with a 2000 BMW 323i for reliability if both were at 200 hundred thousand km. :guns:

[Casa]

dbl post error/

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Casa


You can't compare a 2000 Nissan Altima/Maxima with a 2000 BMW 323i for reliability if both were at 200 hundred thousand km. :guns:

Holy Nissan lover.

I'm willing to bet that a 323i will last longer than an Altima/Maxima. It may have more electrical gremilns but mechanically it will last longer.

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Casa


...everyone knows they're money pits off warranty. You can't compare a 2000 Nissan Altima/Maxima with a 2000 BMW 323i for reliability if both were at 200 hundred thousand km. :guns:

You are right, one will be a solid rattle free car with a burnt out tailight and the other a rust bucket that rattles as it goes

:D

[rc2002]

OP, Have you test driven the two cars yet? It'll be a no brainer once you test drive them.

I'd expect they'd both have similar maintenance/repair costs. I've seen firsthand that BMW requires special tools for a lot of repairs. So if you don't have the special tools, get ready to take it in ass from a shop that does. Some electrical gremlins aren't cheap to diagnose and fix either. Nissan isn't solid mechanically either - my parents' Maxima has had some pretty big repairs. The MAF and Coilpacks are very prone to failure and are quite expensive.

If you want reliability and practicality, buy a Camry or an Accord. Otherwise you'll have to make some compromises.

[Casa]

Originally posted by richardchan2002
OP, Have you test driven the two cars yet? It'll be a no brainer once you test drive them.

I'd expect they'd both have similar maintenance/repair costs. I've seen firsthand that BMW requires special tools for a lot of repairs. So if you don't have the special tools, get ready to take it in ass from a shop that does. Some electrical gremlins aren't cheap to diagnose and fix either. Nissan isn't solid mechanically either - my parents' Maxima has had some pretty big repairs. The MAF and Coilpacks are very prone to failure and are quite expensive.

If you want reliability and practicality, buy a Camry or an Accord. Otherwise you'll have to make some compromises.

i agree here.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by heavyD


So in your opinion Nissan has poor reliability because owners tend to bag on them more than owners of Hondas and Toyotas? Salesmen must love people like you.:nut:

You're taking this to the the extreme. The only point I'm trying to make is that I think a vehicles useful life is influenced largely by the owner.

Relax.

[SteveMo600]

Originally posted by richardchan2002
OP, Have you test driven the two cars yet? It'll be a no brainer once you test drive them.

I'd expect they'd both have similar maintenance/repair costs. I've seen firsthand that BMW requires special tools for a lot of repairs. So if you don't have the special tools, get ready to take it in ass from a shop that does. Some electrical gremlins aren't cheap to diagnose and fix either. Nissan isn't solid mechanically either - my parents' Maxima has had some pretty big repairs. The MAF and Coilpacks are very prone to failure and are quite expensive.

If you want reliability and practicality, buy a Camry or an Accord. Otherwise you'll have to make some compromises.

Thank you for the helpful post. I have not yet test driven either but definitely will when I start to very seriously look at buying.

Do you really see these major problems occurring on a couple year old car with under 75k on it though?

[Inzane]

Originally posted by heavyD
Notice on the list of most unrealiable vehicles that only one Japanese car maker appears. Not only once but four times and it's Nissan. IMO they are a 2nd tier Japanese car company that build below average quality vehicles.

JUNK! Nissan isn't only behind Toyota and Honda in reliability they lag behind smaller Japanese manufacturers like Subaru & Mitsubishi.


Originally posted by heavyD
Just letting people know that Nissan doesn't have typical Japanese reliability. What's wrong with the truth?

Just to let you know, my personal experience with Nissans seriously differs from your "data".

I currently own three Nissans, from three different vehicle segments, seperated by quite a few production years, and all built in different countries too. NONE of them have presented a reliability problem thus far.

Would I ever trade my Sentra or Altima for a Corolla or Camry...? No fucking way!

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Inzane




Just to let you know, my personal experience with Nissans seriously differs from your "data".

I currently own three Nissans, from three different vehicle segments, seperated by quite a few production years, and all built in different countries too. NONE of them have presented a reliability problem thus far.

Would I ever trade my Sentra or Altima for a Corolla or Camry...? No fucking way!

I have a 03 Altima 3.5SE and it's been the most solid car I've owned to date.

Ownership of my old Civic costed me way more (both car started new).

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Originally posted by heavyD


Holy Nissan lover.

I'm willing to bet that a 323i will last longer than an Altima/Maxima. It may have more electrical gremilns but mechanically it will last longer.

nonsense.