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littledan
09-12-2003, 05:20 PM
Saw this on ht

By Toby Forage
September 12, 2003
http://www.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,3600,284534,00.jpg
BAD-boy rapper 50 Cent reportedly dodged 10 bullets in a dash for his life as hitmen tried to knock him off at a Jersey City hotel on the US east coast earlier this week.
The former drug dealer - whose real name is Curtis Jackson - was pulling into the car park of the Doubletree Hotel when he and his posse were allegedly ambushed by an unconfirmed number of assailants.
50 Cent and his entourage then reportedly ducked and weaved their way into the hotel lobby where they took cover until the gunfire ended.
Nobody was hurt in the incident. Neither local police nor the hotel were able confirm to NEWS.com.au exactly when the incident occurred, although US reports say it was the early hours of Wednesday morning (early Wednesday afternoon AEST).
New Jersey police have launched a desperate appeal to the 27-year-old for his side of the story.
By the time police had arrived, the Eminem protege and his crew had left the scene.

Local police chief Ronald Buonocore said: "We're giving them an opportunity to come forward without using warrants."
Fellow officers have retrieved a video surveillance tape from the hotel and are examining it with New York City police in an attempt to identify those involved.

Ten bullet casings - seven from a .40 calibre handgun and three from a .45 - were collected for forensic testing.
Police are also investigating the failure of hotel staff to call emergency services until 30 minutes after the shots were fired.

A spokesman for the hotel said: "It's clear to us that [the police] needed to be called faster and that in the confusion after the shooting they didn't call fast enough and we apologise for that."
The shooting is the latest in a series of violent incidents to rock the hip hop fraternity. Last week, D.O. Cannon - an artist signed to rival hip hop label Murder Inc. was gunned down in Queens.
That shooting came just days after the murder of another rapper, Shadaha (Jah) Bey, who was a member of 50 Cent's crew, G Unit.
50 Cent has survived attempts on his life in the past, including a shooting in which he was wounded nine times and a stabbing. He now wears a bullet-proof vest in public.
The rapper, whose mother dealt drugs and was killed when he was just 8, sold 872,000 copies of his debut album, Get Rich or Die Tryin, in just four days following its release last February.
Music industry leader Billboard reports the album has now sold in excess of three million copies. With The Associated Press

shadowz
09-12-2003, 05:23 PM
G unit!

Super_Geo
09-12-2003, 05:27 PM
Oh no, what a crime against humanity... I hope this bastion of high culture doesn't get killed... what will our kids turn to then :rolleyes:

girlRACER
09-12-2003, 05:28 PM
The way I see it is cause and effect. If a person has or deals drugs for a living, bad things will eventually come to them. Those rappers live such a dangerous life! :(

yankeefan
09-12-2003, 05:38 PM
shoulda stayed in new york where its safe. friggin new jersey is dangerous:)

ryder_23
09-12-2003, 05:51 PM
It was bound to begin between those 2 groups. I dont think it will stop, until their all dead. One will get killed, other retaliates, etc, etc...

Super_Geo
09-12-2003, 05:53 PM
Originally posted by ryder_23
I dont think it will stop, until their all dead. One will get killed, other retaliates, etc, etc...

good

88CRX
09-12-2003, 06:06 PM
fidie prolly set it up to look like this happened just to get publicity :thumbsdow

SoSlowDx
09-12-2003, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by ryder_23
It was bound to begin between those 2 groups. I dont think it will stop, until their all dead. One will get killed, other retaliates, etc, etc...

:werd:

yankeefan
09-12-2003, 06:18 PM
:werd: was so many people involved in the beef, that it was inevitable it would get ugly :(

ZorroAMG
09-12-2003, 06:39 PM
Kill all those fuckers anyway...."retired" drug dealers do not deserve to live, much less make millions...50cent as a person, along with MANY MANY rappers are a bunch of fucked up low-life delinquents that are not worthy of life.

Child molestors, murderers and drug dealers are the so-called icons of our society and we think the middle east is bad....hahahaha

and for all you about to come with the Fresh start BS....eat it! There is no second chance when you do harm.

I am done venting. :)

nickopolis
09-12-2003, 06:46 PM
How can you say they deserve to die cuz they sold drugs? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't sell them someone else would of.

Anyway i think the whole thing is stupid their all friggin rich why risk going to jail cuz of someting someone said?

Ben
09-12-2003, 06:51 PM
Originally posted by ZorroAMG
Kill all those fuckers anyway...."retired" drug dealers do not deserve to live, much less make millions...50cent as a person, along with MANY MANY rappers are a bunch of fucked up low-life delinquents that are not worthy of life.

Child molestors, murderers and drug dealers are the so-called icons of our society and we think the middle east is bad....hahahaha

and for all you about to come with the Fresh start BS....eat it! There is no second chance when you do harm.

I am done venting. :)


In other words, Get your walk on Chump!:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

5.9 R/T
09-12-2003, 08:48 PM
"Get Rich or Die Trying" is obviously a hidden message that 50 cent will die very soon... :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

http://forums.beyond.ca/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23399

GT2NV
09-12-2003, 09:04 PM
Originally posted by shadowz
G unit! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
hahahahaha god i burst out laughin when i read that:thumbsup:

girlRACER
09-12-2003, 10:37 PM
Originally posted by nickopolis
How can you say they deserve to die cuz they sold drugs? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't sell them someone else would of.


If everyone thought like that then all of society would go to hell.
Yes it is true that people have to make a living to survive but they don't necessarily have to deal drugs.

dj_honda
09-12-2003, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by ryder_23
It was bound to begin between those 2 groups. I dont think it will stop, until their all dead. One will get killed, other retaliates, etc, etc...

no it wasn't....murder inc likes to act hardcore, but unfortunately they aren't....during that FBI raid, all they found was like a 22 caliber pistol. thats it. why else do you think they got off so fast? they supposedly started off funding from drug dealers, which is believable but all the bs after that is just bs. the murder inc crap is just publicity, both sides are using it to promote either shady aftermath or murder inc. rap lately (with some exceptions) is a bunch of bs....they have to have so called "beefs" to sell records.


Originally posted by girlRACER


If everyone thought like that then all of society would go to hell.
Yes it is true that people have to make a living to survive but they don't necessarily have to deal drugs.

all of society doesn't believe in heaven and hell. society has created a materialistic image that every young person sees and wants to be a part of...fancy clothes and benz convertibles etc. the only people kids/teens in those areas see with that kind of money are pimps, drug dealers, and rappers and professional athletes from tv so how else would they make the money? not to mention, things aren't always together at home....oh yea, and the public school sytem in the us....from what i hear from my cousins in the US :thumbsdow

of course there are those that come from that sort of situation and actually make it, but people just never hear about them

i remember reading snoop dogg's biography back in high school just for the hell of it in one of my english classes where we had to do book reports etc. in that book, there is like a chapter that explains his point of view, on why he chose to become a drug dealer before going to work at mcdonald's or whatever...its really enlightening and my teacher even asked about the specifics of the book so he could read it later on.

girlRACER
09-12-2003, 11:49 PM
Originally posted by dj_honda

all of society doesn't believe in heaven and hell.


I didn't mean it literally although it can be taken literally. Even if one doesn't believe in heaven and hell one should have morals at least. And I think society has a strong opinion of what is right and wrong even though they question the religious involvement of it.

Super_Geo
09-13-2003, 12:37 AM
Originally posted by nickopolis
How can you say they deserve to die cuz they sold drugs? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't sell them someone else would of.

You're so right. I mean, what's really wrong with Hitler's SS? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't kill them Jews someone else would of.

Hearing that a drug dealer got killed would really tug at my heart strings :rolleyes:

5.9 R/T
09-13-2003, 01:12 AM
Originally posted by Super_Geo


You're so right. I mean, what's really wrong with Hitler's SS? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't kill them Jews someone else would of.


I REALLY hope that was sarcasm.

rice_eater
09-13-2003, 03:16 AM
Originally posted by Super_Geo


good ahahahahahahahhaahahahaha....Shit man you are SOOO bitter! THen ad the angry smurf avatar and you got one bitter chinaman:rofl: buahahahahahahahaah

ZorroAMG
09-13-2003, 05:20 AM
Originally posted by nickopolis
How can you say they deserve to die cuz they sold drugs? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't sell them someone else would of.

Anyway i think the whole thing is stupid their all friggin rich why risk going to jail cuz of someting someone said?


Dude, I think that was possibly the stupidest comment EVER posted on an internet forum. Oh yeah, like there aren't other ways to survive in the "Ghetto" Try moving and getting a job.

People who sell drugs kill innocent people like kids who don't know any better. They DO deserve to die. I feel sorry for you that you feel the need to defend these wastes of air.

4wheeldrift
09-13-2003, 07:12 AM
Originally posted by nickopolis
How can you say they deserve to die cuz they sold drugs? PPl do things to survive, if he didn't sell them someone else would of. This "the end justifies the means" type of attitude is exactly the reason society is on a long, flaming spiral into oblivion.

Super_Geo
09-13-2003, 09:28 AM
Originally posted by rice_eater
ahahahahahahahhaahahahaha....Shit man you are SOOO bitter! THen ad the angry smurf avatar and you got one bitter chinaman:rofl: buahahahahahahahaah


;)

DUBBED
09-13-2003, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by ZorroAMG



Dude, I think that was possibly the stupidest comment EVER posted on an internet forum. Oh yeah, like there aren't other ways to survive in the "Ghetto" Try moving and getting a job.

People who sell drugs kill innocent people like kids who don't know any better. They DO deserve to die. I feel sorry for you that you feel the need to defend these wastes of air.


they dont kill innocent people... the people who buy the drugs off these dealers are just as guilty and 99% of the time were addicted before the "dealer" ever came along... now if this dealer went around getting people hoooked thats different...

i agree that selling dope isnt the best way to make a living... most people dont have a choice... if they did have the choice do just get up leave and start over dont you think they would take that path through life? 50 cent's mom was slangin shit he doesnt know any better!! thats the way he was raised that the only thing he knows... theres no right or wrong in the ghetto man... just life or death... thats the way i see it....

Importz
09-13-2003, 09:39 AM
I got the MAGIC STICK!!!!

Super_Geo
09-13-2003, 11:37 AM
Originally posted by DUBBED
i agree that selling dope isnt the best way to make a living... most people dont have a choice...

Don't have a choice?! You've gotta be fisting me. You're telling me that it's just impossible for drug dealers to get a 9-5?

Drug dealers sell drugs because it's easy money. It's cause they're too fucking lazy to get a job that requires real work. If they wanted to do hard work like any other decent member of society you better belive they can. I don't buy the "they don't have any other choice" arugment for one second.

DUBBED
09-13-2003, 11:44 AM
have you ever heard of someone raised in the ghetto making millions legitimately in the business world?

besides someone with a natural talent... like a sport or music or something...

in a place like calgary fuck yeah people have a choice... most of the people ive known who sell dope are fucking rich as hell to begin with and just do it to be "hardcore" or crazy or whatever.... some kid who is born in a family with no dad has no access to a decent education no money has very few choices in how to make a living... unfortunately selling crack is the only way to make a decent one.... sure it would be FANTASTIC if every ghetto child grew up to be a us senator or a lawyer or the next bill gates... but the fact is as long as you have an address in compton... compton is where you will most likely stay....

tell honestly who you would hire if a 19 year outta compton and a 19 year old out of beverly hills both applied for jobs at your corner store....

max_boost
09-13-2003, 11:54 AM
It's a dangerous life and growing up in the ghetto leaves one with very few options. Selling drugs provides an escape to enhance liberties and achievement of dreams. But like all things, there is a trade off. I firmly believe in karma, what goes around comes around. Everyone has a choice to lead a better life through hard work and perseverance, some just choose to take a shortcut.

Super_Geo
09-13-2003, 11:56 AM
Not everyone in Compton is a drug dealer. Somehow the other people there (against all odds and the will of God, aparantly) found a job that didn't require selling drugs. And you don't need to make millions to have a comfortable life... just because you can't be a 'us senator or a lawyer or the next bill gates' doesn't mean you have to start selling crack.


tell honestly who you would hire if a 19 year outta compton and a 19 year old out of beverly hills both applied for jobs at your corner store....

Let's assume we're not talking about a corner store. If it were a more specialised job, it might actually be a better choice to go with the kid out of Compton, cause you know he had to work to get the oppertunity to be eligible while the kid from 90404 might just be a rich little cum wad sitting daddy's money who wouldn't work if you shoved a brick up his ass.

DUBBED
09-13-2003, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by Super_Geo
Let's assume we're not talking about a corner store. If it were a more specialised job, it might actually be a better choice to go with the kid out of Compton, cause you know he had to work to get the oppertunity to be eligible while the kid from 90404 might just be a rich little cum wad sitting daddy's money who wouldn't work if you shoved a brick up his ass.



well put, i definately have to agree with you there...

nickopolis
09-13-2003, 12:07 PM
I just want to say that i am not condoning drug dealers and that comment about Hitler was a little overboard. And that my comment about if he doesn't sell it someone else will, is not entirely how i feel (though for now it is sadly the truth.) I think that the issue should be stopped at the roots for example producers of the drug (which in certain cases has been governements) and the issue of drug addiction needs to be resolved. ie more funding (money is tight but our society tends to spend a large amount of money on things that really aren't all that necessary) If you are concerened about the problem why don't you do something proactive to help end it?

You think drug dealers kill innocent ppl?(which some do) lets look at our society. How about drug companies putting patents on drugs that help aids victims, and charging way more then it costs to make all for that almighty dollar. Generic companies could produce these drugs at a much lower cost and help relieve some of the pain and suffering that a large percentage of ppl in africa and around the world are going threw.

Or how about that great UN of ours yes they do great things but how about trade sanctions against Iraq. I have heard on numerous occasions that more ppl have died as a result of these sanctions then (from starvation) then Saddam killed in all his years in power.(not that i condone what Saddam has done either)

do these ppl also deserve to die? Most of us drink coffee, thousands of ppl are killed by the coffee cartels(yes they do exist and no nothing is being done about it) These ppl who die are innocent do we all deserve to die because we are contributing to the deaths of these ppl? (there would be no cartels if there was no demand for the product)

I don't think that by me saying drug dealers don't deserve to die that i am contributing to the downfall of this society. Yes i feel that dealers who are not addicted to the substance that they sell should be prosecuted and those who are should undergo mandatory rehab and possible prosecution.

I think that the ppl who are contributing to the downfall of society are those who exploit others for their own personal gain(like a drug dealer, or even better a large company like Nike).

And back to this shooting, how can ppl be happy that it happened and wish that they had got him? He was going into a hotel you think their might have been innocent ppl around

If you think i'm wrong about this then you think i'm wrong, thats it.

And the comment about it being the stupidest thing ever said, thanks i appreciate being called stupid for my opinions. If you thought that last post was the stupidest ever i guess this one will give it a run for its money. You think i have a grim view on society? Is it not true that if for example 50 cent wasn't selling drugs someone else would? Well it is. I think its BS too but that is how things in this world are.

anyway sorry for the long ass post i just got off work and am waiting for ppl to actually wake up so i can go do something.

I respect your opinions and would actually like to hear what everyone thinks about this issue, but please have respect for others opinions. Theres lots more i wouldlike to say but i doubt anyone wants to hear it.
:D

yankeefan
09-13-2003, 12:09 PM
in ny we have da projects, but im glad we dont have ghettos cause those places sound like bad news;)

Id agree with the 'not haveing a choice cause its tough in the ghetto' arguement if drug pushers were exclusive to the ghetto. but you can goto any private college of university and you'll find snow white pushing drugs on campus. so its more of a cop-out then an arguement. dont be an enabler! hah

sin
09-13-2003, 12:18 PM
meh youve been misinformed, he was in the hotel checking in when the shots were fired, then him and his entourage took off and havent been seen since, and fifty is wanted for questioning

Super_Geo
09-13-2003, 12:22 PM
Originally posted by nickopolis
[B]I just want to say that i am not condoning drug dealers and that comment about Hitler was a little overboard.
I was drawing a parallel to show that your "if he didn't do it someone else would" argument should not take any of the weight off of the drug dealer.


I think that the issue should be stopped at the roots for example producers of the drug (which in certain cases has been governements) and the issue of drug addiction needs to be resolved. ie more funding (money is tight but our society tends to spend a large amount of money on things that really aren't all that necessary)
That's exactly what they do. The RCMP hunts out growers and sends them to jail, while smoking pot on the street will only get you a fine. I don't know how much money the government is spending on helping drug addicts, but I would definately give health care, social welfare and education ahead of helping some idiot get off of crack.


If you are concerened about the problem why don't you do something proactive to help end it?
I don't think it's really that big of a problem in Canada. There's not that much I can do about it, and even if there was I don't think I'd be bothered to.


You think drug dealers kill innocent ppl?(which some do) lets look at our society. How about drug companies putting patents on drugs that help aids victims, and charging way more then it costs to make all for that almighty dollar. Generic companies could produce these drugs at a much lower cost and help relieve some of the pain and suffering that a large percentage of ppl in africa and around the world are going threw.

Right, but it's not as simple as mixing chemicals together and then selling it for a proft. Pharmaceutical comanies spend billions on research and development. The prices they charge are set so they can be economically feasible and turn a profit. Welcome to capitalism.


Or how about that great UN of ours yes they do great things but how about trade sanctions against Iraq. I have heard on numerous occasions that more ppl have died as a result of these sanctions then (from starvation) then Saddam killed in all his years in power.(not that i condone what Saddam has done either)

I don't see how dabbling in this adds anything to the argument. Also, the topic of the Middle East is probably too deep for most of us to fully understand and apprechiate. I agree with you that the UN trade sanctions have had pretty horrendous effects on the Iraqi civilians.


Most of us drink coffee, thousands of ppl are killed by the coffee cartels(yes they do exist and no nothing is being done about it) These ppl who die are innocent do we all deserve to die because we are contributing to the deaths of these ppl? (there would be no cartels if there was no demand for the product)
That's how globalizations works. I don't fully agree with it, but there's not too much we can do about it.


I think that the ppl who are contributing to the downfall of society are those who exploit others for their own personal gain(like a drug dealer, or even better a large company like Nike).
Right. Damn all those fools wearing shoes... they'll ruin us all. ;)

tryst_one
09-13-2003, 12:43 PM
when you meet some a 10yr old kid from the ghetto packing a .22, talking about how everything's all f*cked up that definitely makes you realize how different it is for most of the people in the ghetto, their reality is based on survival, what we usually see in the media (most of the time) is a candy coated, one sided perspective of someone who's never actually lived in the ghetto/pj. it's hard to come by an authentic portrayal of how the ghetto's/pj's really are.

i'm not trying to justify what anyone from the ghetto does by any means, but when slinging or banging is a way of life instead of a choice you make, it's hard not to be part of it or not resort to that lifestyle.

the one's that have their mind right do what they can to get out, but that's easier said than done when your in a ghetto.

it's sad when you meet someone who's doing 9-5 to provide for his own and only to loose a son because of a drive by...
...he's now in lock up for trying to justify what happened to him.

reality is you make different choices when your exposed to a different environment, most of you have a different reality growing up and living where you do. some aren't as lucky.

just my $0.02

and by the way, great forum.

Spenser
09-13-2003, 07:39 PM
Everyone is always talking about 50cent and how he is so hardcore and he is(was) a drug dealer. IMO thats BS. He gets shot at because he goes around saying he's all hardcore, and shit, when he got shot the first time it's because he looked at someone funny. plus who cares about G-unit, I bet they never existed till like a year ago.(some one prove me wrong!!)

I would bet money that 50-cent is an image that was created to sell records.

hjr
09-13-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by nickopolis

1 - Or how about that great UN of ours yes they do great things but how about trade sanctions against Iraq. I have heard on numerous occasions that more ppl have died as a result of these sanctions then (from starvation) then Saddam killed in all his years in power.(not that i condone what Saddam has done either)
do these ppl also deserve to die?

2 - (... or even better a large company like Nike).

3 - I respect your opinions and would actually like to hear what everyone thinks about this issue, but please have respect for others opinions.
:D
1 - The USA blocked the abolishment of the sanctions. The UN wanted to drop them but wasnt able to. But your point is a good one.
2 - Nike payes very competitive wages in the countries the have plants. Sometime up to 2 to 3 times the normal wage. The media overhyped the situation. Thats not what i call taking advantage of people. And besides "if they didnt, somebody else would" to quote you.
3 - Good to hear you say that. You took the critizism well. good job.

nonsane
09-13-2003, 08:23 PM
I am glad 50 cent is still alive

because rappers make more albums when they are dead than when they are alive!! ;)

nickopolis
09-14-2003, 12:57 AM
Haha HJR you are very correct(as i suppose the others were too) though sadly it is true the "if they didn't someone else would" is not a strong defence for any situation. But in my defence I did not intend that statement to be taken as a defence for the actions of people but more as a comment on how the probem is not going to end with the policys/actions of governements that are currently in place, things have only gotten worse and its time we reevaluate how we dea with these issues.

edit* HJR I'm aware that the USA was the reason behind the sanctions staying in place but did not feel like getting into a rant on the US foreign policys and actions they have taken. My rant was long enough as it was ! haha

ps Working on sunday sucks! I'm not nearly as drunk as i should be right now and i'm home at 1 on a saturday...

ryder_23
09-14-2003, 02:08 AM
Originally posted by nonsane
I am glad 50 cent is still alive

because rappers make more albums when they are dead than when they are alive!! ;)

do u like 50cent as an artist?

if u do, then wouldnt u rather have him dead so u can hear more of his music? in the way that u look at it?

nismodrifter
09-14-2003, 02:16 AM
Originally posted by ryder_23


do u like 50cent as an artist?

if u do, then wouldnt u rather have him dead so u can hear more of his music? in the way that u look at it?

I am guessing that he DOESN'T like fifty

read his post again..

ZorroAMG
09-14-2003, 10:09 AM
I apologize to Niko for being rude, but I still think that it is FUCKED up that our society's idols are all fucking criminals and they get paid instead of punished. Once again I will also say that ALL illegal drug dealers should be drawn and quartered. They certainly do not remotely deserve to live the high-life and make millions...fucking LOSERS

Triptronic
09-14-2003, 06:26 PM
FUCK ALL THE RAPPERS!!!! THEY DON'T GET IN SHIT!!! NOW IF YOU WERE IN A GANG WITH EVERYDAY PPL POLICE ARE ON YOUR ASS 24/7.. FOR ALL I CARE FUCK THE MUSIC INDUSTRY AND FUCK THE LAW

kevie88
09-15-2003, 07:29 PM
heh.. whoa :D

Kona9
09-15-2003, 09:28 PM
I LOVE ALBERTA BEEF

403Gemini
09-15-2003, 11:29 PM
funny i bet you 90% of the peeps here have at least done drugs and then their bad mouthing dealers... okie that makes sense... :dunno:

peeps who dont deserve life:
rapists
murders
child molesters

but drug dealers, granted thre is easier ways to get along in life... but dont we all want a "get-rich-gimick" ?

you CANNOT survive on $5.95 an hour, even with 2 jobs. my buddy lives with his gf and they both have 2 jobs, he sleeps maybe 2-3 hours a day she has 2 jobs as well, and they are SCRAPING buy.. and each job pays $8+. he makes $14 an hour on his daytime job and $9.15 on his nite job, she makes $8.25 on her daytime job and $8.65 for her nitetime job... what does this say about society?)

Super_Geo
09-15-2003, 11:34 PM
Originally posted by 403Gemini
you CANNOT survive on $5.95 an hour, even with 2 jobs. my buddy lives with his gf and they both have 2 jobs, he sleeps maybe 2-3 hours a day she has 2 jobs as well, and they are SCRAPING buy.. and each job pays $8+. he makes $14 an hour on his daytime job and $9.15 on his nite job, she makes $8.25 on her daytime job and $8.65 for her nitetime job... what does this say about society?)

Scraping by? Assuming they have $3K a month after taxes and dedutions (pretty easy all things considered), I don't see how you can just be scraping by. I mean... I'm in University, and if it weren't for tuition I could probably live all year off of the money I made this summer. I wouldn't be able to go to the bars every night of the week, but it still wouldn't be that bad.

403Gemini
09-15-2003, 11:44 PM
oops:
forgot to mention they have a kid

Super_Geo
09-15-2003, 11:46 PM
Originally posted by 403Gemini
oops:
forgot to mention they have a kid

Should've wrapped :banghead:

403Gemini
09-15-2003, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by Super_Geo


Should've wrapped :banghead:

lol i agree
"no love without the glove"

4wheeldrift
09-16-2003, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by 403Gemini

you CANNOT survive on $5.95 an hour Yes you can, if you are willing to make the sacrifices necessary to do it. It isn't comfortable living, but it sure as hell isn't starving.