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89coupe
10-02-2008, 03:31 PM
Putting humans in their place

By David Suzuki with Faisal Moola

Andrew Weaver’s recently published book, Keeping Our Cool: Canada in a Warming World, is an urgent call to action that some of the folks running for the privilege of leading us into the future seem to be ignoring. Dr. Weaver, a world-class climatologist who is putting the University of Victoria on the global map, was one of the lead authors on papers put out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change. In that role, he shared with other panel members the Nobel Peace Prize last year.

In the book, Dr. Weaver argues that if we are to stabilize atmospheric levels of carbon at a level that will not result in climate going haywire, we must begin massive reductions in greenhouse gas emissions now with a goal of totally eliminating our output of them. If we don't, 80 per cent of all species could become extinct! That’s an astounding prediction, and if we think we’ll somehow survive such a catastrophic crisis, we should think again. When I first read about colonies of honeybees dying out, a bolt of fear went through me. Without pollinators, most flowering plants will not survive, and that would devastate the makeup of species on the planet.

We have become the dominant animal on the planet, and it has been an amazing story. But in puffing ourselves up with self importance, we have lost sight of how little we know about the way the world works and how utterly dependent we are on the services that nature performs for us, like removing carbon dioxide from the air and replacing it with oxygen – not a bad service for animals like us.

Eminent Harvard ecologist and ant expert E.O. Wilson once told me that if humans disappeared overnight, only a handful of organisms would also go extinct: creatures that live on our skin, in our armpits, and our groins and guts. The rest of nature would rebound, the planet would green up, and animals would increase in abundance. But if all the ants went extinct overnight, whole terrestrial ecosystems would collapse, and the makeup of animals and plants would change catastrophically. Kind of puts humans into perspective.

Today's youth spend the least amount of time outdoors of any generation in history. And most of us live in cities surrounded mainly by other human beings and a few domesticated plants and animals and pests. So when we hear reports of vanishing glaciers and breaking ice sheets in Greenland and Antarctica, even endangered polar bears, it's hard to relate. In British Columbia, northern forests have turned red because the mountain pine beetle, an insect the size of a grain of rice, is no longer kept in check because winters aren't cold enough to kill them. Yet this $65 billion loss still seems to have little impact on our thinking as British Columbians vent outrage at Premier Gordon Campbell's puny carbon tax.

I guess we think air is almost infinite, rising to the heavens. But astronaut Julie Payette described to me the experience of circling the planet in a space capsule: Every time the sun rose or set, which was every hour and a half, she saw a thin layer just above the Earth's surface. That’s the atmosphere. As the late Carl Sagan pointed out, if the Earth were shrunk to the size of a basketball, the atmosphere we all depend on for our very survival would be thinner than a layer of varnish. That's it, and everything our tailpipes, chimneys, and engines vent goes into that thin layer.

We apparently now put health as one of our top priorities in this election. Well, when we use air, water, and land as a garbage can, do we think we are somehow immune to the health consequences? We've got to see the world as it really is – a complex interaction of air, water, land, and living things, all interconnected and all interdependent. We are rampaging across the planet, treating it as our plaything, as our source of raw materials, as our dumping ground for our waste and emissions. And then we whine like mad when reminded that we have to change and we have to pay for what we do. Why haven’t we heard more about this perspective in the current election campaign?

Take David Suzuki’s Nature Challenge and learn more at www.davidsuzuki.org.

syeve
10-02-2008, 03:47 PM
I have said it before and I will say it again. This planet without humans would be an amazing place.

Mckenzie
10-02-2008, 04:04 PM
It would be admirable of the local / world leaders to not only acknowledge this problem BUT ALSO act on it by pursuing serious clean energy plans and climate change initiatives. Unfortunately, Big Oil dominates any potential for true progress in this direction.

I find it funny how many Albertans acknowldedge the environment is a an important issue / gloabl warming is dangerous but would not be willing to make lifestyle changes for the good of soceity / planet earth. Big oil and the paycheques that come with it trump long-term consequences of this problem.

I will now await the bashing and hating to begin. :clap:

89coupe
10-02-2008, 04:16 PM
Originally posted by Mckenzie
It would be admirable of the local / world leaders to not only acknowledge this problem BUT ALSO act on it by pursuing serious clean energy plans and climate change initiatives. Unfortunately, Big Oil dominates any potential for true progress in this direction.

I find it funny how many Albertans acknowldedge the environment is a an important issue / gloabl warming is dangerous but would not be willing to make lifestyle changes for the good of soceity / planet earth. Big oil and the paycheques that come with it trump long-term consequences of this problem.

I will now await the bashing and hating to begin. :clap:

That is so true. Humans are driven by greed.

Xtrema
10-02-2008, 06:12 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe


That is so true. Humans are driven by greed.

http://talesfromtheasylum.com/smith_morpheus.jpg

Eleanor
10-02-2008, 06:24 PM
I read "by David Suzuki" and stopped.

BerserkerCatSplat
10-02-2008, 06:29 PM
Originally posted by Eleanor
I read "by David Suzuki" and stopped.

Same here.

autosm
10-02-2008, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe


That is so true. Humans are driven by greed.




I read suzuki lives in a 3 million dollar house?

spikerS
10-02-2008, 06:37 PM
Originally posted by Eleanor
I read "by David Suzuki" and stopped.



Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Same here.

+2

the guy is the biggest tard and eco terrorist out there.

ZEDGE
10-02-2008, 06:39 PM
Originally posted by Eleanor
I read "by David Suzuki" and stopped.

Ditto

Fucking eco fear monger

Hes no better than the Bush admin and thier fear mongering.

:thumbsdow

mark4091
10-02-2008, 06:53 PM
Originally posted by Eleanor
I read "by David Suzuki" and stopped.



:werd:

ZorroAMG
10-02-2008, 08:19 PM
I saw david suzuki in YVR and tried (weak attempt) to stalk a photo of him with my iPhone...his hot daughter was on to me though....


Red shirt, white hair LOL

http://homepage.mac.com/markghanime/.Pictures/Hosting/IMG_0166.JPG

badatusrnames
10-02-2008, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by spikers





+2

the guy is the biggest tard and eco terrorist out there.

Agreed. This is they guy that went on a national tour in a big diesel bus. I wonder how he heats his home? What about all of goods he consumes and the food that he eats? Does he grow it all himself?

With all of the flying he has done in his life, his carbon footprint is probably almost as big as Madonna's or Al Gore's.

Anomaly
10-03-2008, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by Mckenzie


I find it funny how many Albertans acknowldedge the environment is a an important issue / gloabl warming is dangerous but would not be willing to make lifestyle changes for the good of soceity / planet earth. Big oil and the paycheques that come with it trump long-term consequences of this problem.

I will now await the bashing and hating to begin. :clap:

Pretty hard to care about the environment if your starving, no?

Mckenzie
10-03-2008, 06:49 AM
Originally posted by Anomaly


Pretty hard to care about the environment if your starving, no?

Pretty hard to eat / live when the planet's eco system is destroyed and crops / food sources cannot even grow. And who in the nations with the biggest environmental footprints are going to starve?:dunno:

badatusrnames
10-03-2008, 08:04 AM
Originally posted by Anomaly


Pretty hard to care about the environment if your starving, no?

Then grow your own food then instead of having it grown on factory farms and shipped halfway across the country to you.

malcolmk14
10-03-2008, 09:02 AM
+1 for Suzuki's daughter being hot.

89coupe
10-03-2008, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by malcolmk14
+1 for Suzuki's daughter being hot.

Pics!!!

syeve
10-03-2008, 09:44 AM
http://www.top20under20.ca/en/MentorProgram/sevbrownshirtlo.jpg

Not bad at all.

Eleanor
10-03-2008, 09:53 AM
^ she looks like a 10 year old boy.

http://www.lolsauce.com/RandomBS/Pedo%20bear.png

89coupe
10-03-2008, 09:56 AM
Originally posted by syeve


Not bad at all.

That totally reminds me of this movie...LOL.

http://www.apple.com/trailers/lions_gate/hardcandy/

Mibz
10-03-2008, 10:20 AM
Originally posted by Eleanor
I read "by David Suzuki" and stopped. I thought I would be the only one.

syeve
10-03-2008, 01:48 PM
Originally posted by Eleanor
^ she looks like a 10 year old boy.

http://www.lolsauce.com/RandomBS/Pedo%20bear.png

:D I double checked her age in a hurry there....

29...whew

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Severn_Cullis-Suzuki

89coupe
10-03-2008, 02:58 PM
She looks like an overweight granola to me.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/416749296_393afa87a1.jpg

Mckenzie
10-03-2008, 04:37 PM
^ nonetheless hittable.

QuasarCav
10-03-2008, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by Mckenzie
^ nonetheless hittable.


All creatures with a vagina are hittable. I am not sure what the appeal is with her... 89Coupe is pretty close with the description.

Masked Bandit
10-03-2008, 04:52 PM
Originally posted by Mibz
I thought I would be the only one.


No way, you can add me to the list.