Mah V-TECH Killer!

[epp01]

Sorry for this rant, but somebody needs to here this.

Today was the last straw for me and dealing with ricers. I can appreciate a nice car when i see one, and this doesn't mean this is 100% of the people who own Honda's or represent anybody on this forum but i can't deal with this shit anymore.

This falls on 90% of Honda's i come across on the road, I drive a completely stock LOOKING Talon, the only thing that you can see it's not stock is my slightly larger tip and my fmic sticking through my bumper. In the last 2 months, i've been revved at, at more lights then i can count on all my fingers and toes all by nice Civic's, preludes, and Integra's (Yes integra's are hondas)

Thats fine, rev at me all you want, i'm not going to race your 54hp one wheeler peeler. But sure enough when the light goes green they take off in V-tec furry.

I've seen 3 accidents caused by these "sick carz brah" because they don't seem to care about any other car on the road. They're choice not mine.

But the thing that gets me the MOST pissed off, is talking to some dumb ass kid who he has what he thinks is the GREATEST car in the world and his fwd Civic with a huge wing and massive ass body kit, could destroy anything else on the road.

At first i would try to keep these guys on ear and not let there head go into the clouds, that doesn't work, then i just tried ignoring them, it also doesn't really work. Now i'm just at the point where i play along. They ask what i drive, i just say a talon, nothing more, they go on and on about how they can just destroy me, i ask them to race on a completely dead road to show me. They brag about how it won't even be close. They say "I've got a 12 second civic" I've seriously heard "When V-TEC his it's over brah." Sorry i go to race city almost every weekend. Do you have any idea how fast 12 seconds is?! Or is it because they heard it on the interwebs other civics running 12's they can. Reality sets in when on the internet 12's really mean 16's.

So i say put 10,20,50 bucks on it i don't care. They shut up, put your money where your mouth is. They have no idea i have a 400hp talon that runs consistent 12.4's and a 1.7 60'. The only time i've gotten one guy to race me and i raced him and he said "You're not in the same league as me" I said.. Uhh? Because i've spent less money then you have? Because my car is older then yours? Or because i don't have ridiculous wings?

I'm so frustrated by the HUNDREDS of people in Calgary it seems to have these cars and drive them like clowns, which is appropriate i guess for the way they look.

Body Kits - Add Weight decrease fuel economy
Wings - More weight, and when you're going around a corner at 160+ that'll take the weight off your fwd car and put it on the rear wheels... wait a minute...

Decals - Steal me parts cars honestly, if you have SONY XPLOD and JVC stickers on your windows of your car, isn't that like telling a theft, HEY HEY look at me!

How do some of you guys deal with this?! I've just started to ignore it all. And anytime somebody brings up V-tec, b16, b18, bwhatever i have to walk away.

/rant.

[Eleanor]

A+ Thread :thumbsup:

[Supa Dexta]

http://www.singingpotato.com/graphics/Potato%20animation.gif

[410440]

Its because one day they know your car will blow a balance shaft belt or a timing belt, or the transmission will fall out, or youll get crankwalk, or the rear diff will fall apart (if its TSI) at the start of the race and they will win ! :burnout:


I had a 91 TSI with the same problem, ricers that is. and well all of the other problems stated above.

Now i drive a civic.


Good luck with your future races.

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y148/mythias2600/crankwalk.jpg

[ekguy]

i knew that pic would show in this thread haha. Awesome.

[epp01]

Thing is, I haven't have any reliably issues with my car as of yet. I've done all my "maintenance" even then how long do you think you can run 25psi on a 20 year old car without something breaking. It's going to happen, it's just a matter of time. This isn't about how shitty a type of car is from the manufacture, it's about the idiot behind the wheel.

Btw first gen talons don't crank walk :)

[Supa Dexta]

What turbo you run?

[410440]

Originally posted by epp01
Thing is, I haven't have any reliably issues with my car as of yet. I've done all my "maintenance" even then how long do you think you can run 25psi on a 20 year old car without something breaking. It's going to happen, it's just a matter of time. This isn't about how shitty a type of car is from the manufacture, it's about the idiot behind the wheel.

Btw first gen talons don't crank walk :)

It was mearly a joke at the expense of diamond star motors, i meant no offense to you personally.

[epp01]

^^^^ None taken :)


Originally posted by Supa Dexta
What turbo you run?

16g evo3 maxed out, the reason it's set at 25psi is because it won't do anymore :)

35r coming this fall.

[BenC]

Haha I drive a impreza RA and ve never been revved at. And I have a massive sti wing. In all of my cars I've never had these encounters.

[410440]

Wanna race sometime? I dont have stickers though so it might not be fair :dunno:



lol j/k

what color is your talon?

[Wehbeast]

pardon my ignorance, what is crank walk?

[410440]

1. crankwalk
Movement of the crank out of stock specifications. All cranks have L to R movement, to some extent, but an excessive lateral crank movement has bad reprocussions, such as hitting/grinding/destroying the crank sensor. A "walking" crank necessitates an engine rebuild.

Any car can crankwalk, but Mitsubishi Eclipses, Plymouth Lasers, and Eagle Talons with a 7-bolt motor are notorious for this problem. No recall was ever released as the problem was said to be isolated to a bad batch of cranks, which represented a fraction of the produced cars. Various theories of why crankwalk occurs and what years are most suseptible exist, but none are proven. General consenus is poor oil flow is one cause, and later model years seem to suffer less.

Contrary to popular opinion, any car can crankwalk; Manual, auto, import, domestic, turbo, manual, racecar, beater. All have walked, and all have a chance of walking.
My dsm crankwalked on me, but thankfully my dsm has broken down often enough to make me a real mechanic.
by Awdhooptie Apr 10, 2005 share this add comment

2. Crankwalk
Something that DSM drivers get when they become too cocky and decide to race a actuall import, like a honda or VW. It is a out of spec moving of the crankshaft (perticaully in 7-bolt 4G63s)side to side and WILL destroy your engine
Yo dogg, meh clips got some crankwalk and that teg owned meh

[Transp0rt3r]

I just completely ignore them ... I don't even turn my head (I can see this shit-can with my peripheral vision) :D They can revv up whatever they like, I just put little bit of throttle and leave them beind , spinning their tiny wheelzzz .

Some of them are dumb enough to keep flooring till 120 on a 60 zone ... I wish they would get caught ... just once ... right from the stop light , but this never happens .. :banghead:

I guess, just ignore them and drive responsibly !!

[Supa Dexta]

I only had my talon out a few times this yr, but I will agree.. It is a ricer magnet. I just started tearing mine down again today... ha.. 3 or 4 days out this season! not bad..:rofl:

[epp01]

Originally posted by 410440
Wanna race sometime? I dont have stickers though so it might not be fair :dunno:



lol j/k

what color is your talon?

It's a red 1gb (the none pop up head light first gen) i've ran it at race city a few times. Best time here was 13.4 at 106mph with a low 10AF tune : /

I did a lot better in medicine hat, like all cars that will run there as compared to here lol.

[ryanallan]

i parked my talon and got a rotary

it looks faster, but is twice as slow :thumbsup:

kids don't try to race me anymore. . .

[DannyO]

You underestimate the power of vtec.

[rmk]

Originally posted by DannyO
You underestimate the power of vtec.

:werd:

Even rage's M3 can't stack up to a B18. VTEC is king.

[epp01]

Originally posted by DannyO
You underestimate the power of vtec.

No offence but from what i've seen V-TEC is just noise, toyota's VVTi tech is so much better, i'd hate to give anything to GM but they're eco-tech from what i've seen works very well and isn't just noise or a chord less phone company.

[4doorj]

Originally posted by ryanallan
i parked my talon and got a rotary

it looks faster, but is twice as slow :thumbsup:

kids don't try to race me anymore. . .
Did you get a brand new rx8?
If so, they look sooo good:drool:
I like the new facelift they did to them.

[4doorj]

Originally posted by epp01


No offence but from what i've seen V-TEC is just noise, toyota's VVTi tech is so much better, i'd hate to give anything to GM but they're eco-tech from what i've seen works very well and isn't just noise or a chord less phone company.

I've driven eco-tech, and v-tech. Personally I would give it to honda.
I think it's just the retard drivers. They are the ones giving the bad names. There is bad drivers everywhere. They are the ones that are giving truck drivers bad names, bmw drivers bad names.

[kerry]

Fuck all y'all! DSG FTW!

[rp_guy]

Originally posted by epp01


No offence but from what i've seen V-TEC is just noise, toyota's VVTi tech is so much better, i'd hate to give anything to GM but they're eco-tech from what i've seen works very well and isn't just noise or a chord less phone company.

it was a joke..

[Supa Dexta]

V-TECH is no joke.

[Team_Mclaren]

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t26/anth4484/vtec.jpg

:poosie: :poosie:

[ShermanEF9]

Honestly man, you just gotta live with it. theres stupid kids everywhere doing it... i've had it happen to me (and i drive a civic)
hell, i've been revved at by talons... you can't avoid it.

[dj techsta]

meh, I just bought a faster car. I've yet to have a single idiot try to race me.

Still laugh at the idiots that are like "why would you install brembos on your car?"

but with my old car i'd tease them by thinking they were winning then drop it into third and drive away

[403ep3]

I drive a civic and noone tries to race me :( :love:

[rawsensation]

Originally posted by BenC
Haha I drive a impreza RA and ve never been revved at. And I have a massive sti wing. In all of my cars I've never had these encounters.

That's cause they take one look at you're impreza and they know something up, "Oh shieett yo it's got v-tech too" :D

http://photos-a.ak.facebook.com/photos-ak-sf2p/v248/207/100/537770376/n537770376_3088672_1129.jpg

[zipdoa]

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e3/Rollercoastervtec.jpg

[cam_wmh]

Originally posted by zipdoa
http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/e/e3/Rollercoastervtec.jpg

oh fuck I LOL'd. First 1:1 accurate post in this thread!1!!1!!!:thumbsup:

[95EagleAWD]

Originally posted by epp01
Thing is, I haven't have any reliably issues with my car as of yet.

You will. :p I've had enough DSMs to know they all need some special care. That said, I still love 'em.


Originally posted by epp01

Btw first gen talons don't crank walk :)

Yes they do. What year is your Talon? If it's after April '92, it'll have a stock 7 bolt engine in it. It's not as bad as the 97-99 7 bolts, but it still walks way more than the 6 bolt does.

[tabouli]

OP is stuck in 1997.

[EM1FTW]

I seem to get reved at in phases. Some weeks its terrible. I usually just rev back a little and then laugh when they take off across the intersection.



And to epp01.... Jake?

[Jlude]

I get revved at everyday I take my car out... I like to think it's just my fellow ricer saying "good day"

[xmattx8]

Originally posted by 410440


I had a 91 TSI with the same problem, ricers that is. and well all of the other problems stated above.

Now i drive a civic.


Good luck with your future races.




If you cant beat em, join em?

[D_flore]

:facepalm:

[410440]

Originally posted by xmattx8



If you cant beat em, join em? :rofl:

it broke one to many times.

[7thgenvic]

i was the one revin' @ your ass! my shitz fast Yo...JESUS

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by epp01
chord less phone company.

Like d-minor?

Cordless.

[CivicTunr]

so if you have so much money to spend tons of money on your talon?

Why is it you only have two shirts?

From the mexican. :D

[flopicok]

My dsm crankwalked on me, but thankfully my dsm has broken down often enough to make me a real mechanic.

Nice. Here come the rest of the DSM jokes :P

[lumss]

Its V-TEC, not V-TECH.

and i am going to spray it your DSM face.

[89s1]

epp01: You're clearly misinformed. That, or you have fetal alcohol syndrome.

[acura_el]

I imagine these are the same guys that put their cars in cruise control and then hit the accelerate button like it's NOS. :facepalm:

[urban.one]

http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6885/vteczo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[89s1]

Originally posted by lumss
Its V-TEC, not V-TECH.

and i am going to spray it your DSM face.

It's not V-TEC either dumbass.

no hyphen. VTEC.

Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control.

[Supa Dexta]

VEETEK?

[89s1]

VTAK!

[A790]

Nobody tries to race my Saab. It's fantastic :)

[DannyO]

I think the mob has spoken, as you can see, vtec is serious business.

[410440]

DSM: Making master mechanics since 1989.

[jbabante]

beef steak :love:

[Genjuro]

Originally posted by urban.one
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6885/vteczo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAA:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Typical Nissan Type R hommie!

[JordanEG6]

Originally posted by urban.one
http://img355.imageshack.us/img355/6885/vteczo2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It's missing some maroon.

http://images.forum-auto.com/mesimages/206555/80aa0b046a.jpg
:dunno:

[Hamann]

Get used to it, nothing you can really do about it, sad but true, you cant fix stupid :dunno:

[bawlls]

I do the only thing there is to do...
school the shit outta them.

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by Genjuro


AHAHAHHAHHAHAHAA:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Typical Nissan Type R hommie!

LOL, wtf is with the extra molding on the rear fender? :rofl:

[vengie]

i get revved at wayyy to much... young kid, quick car.. obviously he wants to race :confused:

just ignore it...

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by lumss
Its V-TEC, not V-TECH.

and i am going to spray it your DSM face.



Originally posted by 89s1


It's not V-TEC either dumbass.

no hyphen. VTEC.

Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control.



Originally posted by Supa Dexta
VEETEK?



Originally posted by 89s1
VTAK!


You guys are allllll wrong.

It's

http://www.pga.com/grandslam/2004/img/news/singh_story_112204.jpg

[max_boost]

Oh this issue is really bugging the OP.

What you need to do is completely ignore them and then if you get the chance, ricer fly by their ass. Oh man, that gets them so revved up haha:burnout: :rofl:

[Xtrema]

What's better than VTEC

xdzN95syKOQ



2 Vtechs!

[lumss]

Originally posted by 89s1


It's not V-TEC either dumbass.

no hyphen. VTEC.

Variable valve Timing and lift Electronic Control.


who's side are you on ass-hole :(

or is there no hyphen in ass-hole either??

[cyrusli]

.. just ignore them. that's what I do. We're car enthusiasts..why let morons ruin it for you? chances are, they prolly don't even know what vtec is NOR do they have vtec..Not worth the time imo. If they can make it to the next set of lights 2 seconds faster, let them be, not like their "vroom vroom" can save them that much time from point a to point b...

I drive a civic si, have people in blinged up accords, talens, and even domestics that rev and give me the stare once in a while. I assure you not all civics owners are idiots :angel:


i get revved at wayyy to much... young kid, quick car.. obviously he wants to race just ignore it...

not ALL young people are pedal crazy... only at RaceCity =).

But i do agree, some people just think their vtecs can outrun a sr20...so i dunno. either the tec has gone to their heads or they just don't have their heads on strait.. makes us who own a nice ride with vtec look bad.

Just ignore them and enjoy your ride. :thumbsup:

[nat_skyline]

i hear ya on this one. I have anything and everything trying to race me all the time.
Mostly are huge Diesel trucks, to Honda's BMW's...highway going to edmonton the specialty seems to be porches :dunno:
I cant help but laugh when they get pulled over but its annoying as hell that they think they can "impress me" :whocares:

..that and ive realised tail gaiting is getting bad...

[cyrusli]

Originally posted by nat_skyline
i hear ya on this one. I have anything and everything trying to race me all the time.
Mostly are huge Diesel trucks, to Honda's BMW's...highway going to edmonton the specialty seems to be porches :dunno:
I cant help but laugh when they get pulled over but its annoying as hell that they think they can "impress me" :whocares:

..that and ive realised tail gaiting is getting bad...

Yeah, i jsut let them pass.. and if they can't, i block them in and pace the car on the other lane until it's not pacable. =)

[D_flore]

hahahaha loved that video

[kamatayan]

http://th29.deviantart.com/fs9/300W/i/2006/142/f/3/Vtec_in_a_Box_by_StreekG.jpg

[cjay^]

Surprisingly i've only been revved at once, and it was some punk kid driving his jerk circle gang in daddies yukon. He got eaten. :zzz:

[HP2133]

I test drove the 09 RX8 / 45 all inclusive / it is a PoS for that price.

23x HP on standard, engine hasn't been modified in 3+ years, heavy car.
A big + : IMPROVED looks in comparison to 04 08



For roughly 46K am looking now at 08 300 C SRT8 with everything in. I hope to get one from Calgary, no PST.


Originally posted by 4doorj

Did you get a brand new rx8?
If so, they look sooo good:drool:
I like the new facelift they did to them.

[SR240SX]

Originally posted by 410440



I had a 91 TSI with the same problem, ricers that is. and well all of the other problems stated above.

Now i drive a civic.


Good luck with your future races.


If you can't beat em, Join em!

[SR240SX]

Originally posted by HP2133
I test drove the 09 RX8 / 45 all inclusive / it is a PoS for that price.

23x HP on standard, engine hasn't been modified in 3+ years, heavy car.
A big + : IMPROVED looks in comparison to 04 08



For roughly 46K am looking now at 08 300 C SRT8 with everything in. I hope to get one from Calgary, no PST.



Wrong thread BRA!

[CausalInfluence]

there are a few fast honda's in this city. but what people dont realise is that calgary is fucked for fast cars... we are at such a high altitude that stock 333hp m3's barely crack 220 to the wheels on a dyno.

People will always engage in contest, its human nature. if it really bothers you that much, Sell your car buy an oldsmobile and problem will be solved.

Its a part of the territory, you either accept it or move on. thats why car enthusiasm is fleeting. Rarely do you find lifers, for alot of people its a phase, like drugs, drinking and being irresponsible in general.

All I can offer you is the confort of knowing that you are far from alone in this plight. Dealwidit.


For the record the fast honda I am specifically talking about is a non vtec b18 fully built with an sc61. believe me. it is fast. Stupid fast.

[redline]

Originally posted by CausalInfluence
For the record the fast honda I am specifically talking about is a non vtec b18 fully built with an sc61. believe me. it is fast. Stupid fast.

:facepalm: :rofl:

[Mr_ET]

Originally posted by CausalInfluence
there are a few fast honda's in this city. but what people dont realise is that calgary is fucked for fast cars... we are at such a high altitude that stock 333hp m3's barely crack 220 to the wheels on a dyno.

People will always engage in contest, its human nature. if it really bothers you that much, Sell your car buy an oldsmobile and problem will be solved.

Its a part of the territory, you either accept it or move on. thats why car enthusiasm is fleeting. Rarely do you find lifers, for alot of people its a phase, like drugs, drinking and being irresponsible in general.

All I can offer you is the confort of knowing that you are far from alone in this plight. Dealwidit.


For the record the fast honda I am specifically talking about is a non vtec b18 fully built with an sc61. believe me. it is fast. Stupid fast.

Ah I see

thank you for enlightening us man, really appreciate it:rolleyes:

[Prelude_dude]

what part of the cities do u guys get revved at... i never get revved at, not that i want too, but i admit i drive a ricer, 2000 prelude with ground effects, and a stupid load exhaust that my buddie put on the car... but i never get revved at. Well actually i remember this one time on my way home from 32nd ave ne, there was a group of guys in a TL type s, revved the shit out of their car at the lights, me knowing better that i couldn't compete with their car anyways, i just ignored them, but they took off in a frenzy only too be pulled over at the next lights :clap: so that was pretty entertaining lol.

[Isaiah]

Originally posted by CausalInfluence
...we are at such a high altitude that stock 333hp m3's barely crack 220 to the wheels on a dyno.
You need to take a time out and think about that. Make sure you grab the dunce cap on your way to the corner.

[n1zm0]

Originally posted by Isaiah

You need to take a time out and think about that. Make sure you grab the dunce cap on your way to the corner.

lol you should have already known this guy was full of smart, he couldnt even spell casual properly in his own username :rofl:

[cyrusli]

yeah, generally cars pull up beside me are nice.. there are a couple of cobalts and civics..oh and minivans! that does a bit of a burnout right beside me... the worst is those older folks (no offence to anyone on here) that have chargers or a benz that cuts me off then speeds off, stops at light, i pull up behind them and zoom off again. but oh well, i'm kinda immune to it now..lol

anyway, no matter where you are, there's gonna be cars that think it'll be a great idea to speed up and pass you thinking you'll follow suite.. as repeated: just ignore them.