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Mckenzie

10-22-2008, 03:55 PM

Slash was quite direct in his auto-biography about why GnR broke up and why it will never get back together (unless Axl makes some serious personality changes). It was pretty obvious he wanted to lay the issue to rest.

1- Slash took serious issue with the disrespect for fans from Axl by not showing up on time for shows

2- Slash also took issue with the excessive musical creation and business dominance of GnR by Axl.

PS- everyone needs to read the Slash book...I read it in the spring and its a pretty unreal tale.

nonlinear

10-22-2008, 04:02 PM

OK let's get over the slash thing... he hasn't been in the band for like 12 years....

what do you guys think of the music? Does it meet your expectations?

Mibz

10-22-2008, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by googe
link to music video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0 Wow..... Just wow...

95teetee

10-22-2008, 06:31 PM

Originally posted by nonlinear
OK let's get over the slash thing... he hasn't been in the band for like 12 years....

what do you guys think of the music? Does it meet your expectations? I've had that song in demo form since October of '06 (the "whenever it's done'' bootleg 'release') and it sounds pretty damn good like this to me.
Axl will always be a god- the rest of the world would just be better off if he didn't know it:D

I'm just shocked to see an actual release date-thanks for posting

rmk

10-22-2008, 06:42 PM

It is not horrible.

I hate Axl Rose.

95teetee

10-22-2008, 06:45 PM

a quick usenet search shows me that: more than just the single was released today:D

Mr. Burns

10-22-2008, 06:47 PM

That was terrible. Fortunately for Axl the whole "classic" band revival trend is in full swing, so he will still make millions no matter how much his album sucks.

core_upt

10-23-2008, 09:01 AM

I've had Chinese Democracy for a few years via torrents and never thought much of it. But this single, I actually kind of like! It sounds like stuff off use Your Illusions, which, granted, isn't their greatest album, but its still good.

Inzane

10-23-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by rmk
I hate Axl Rose.

I just hated his bright red spandex shorts he wore throughout the Use Your Illusion I&II concert DVDs. WTF?? :dunno:

:barf: :thumbsdow

yt3030

10-23-2008, 09:39 AM

Personally i'm pretty stoked for this album...It's been a long time coming!

nonlinear

10-23-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by core_upt
I've had Chinese Democracy for a few years via torrents and never thought much of it. But this single, I actually kind of like! It sounds like stuff off use Your Illusions, which, granted, isn't their greatest album, but its still good.

yea, i agree. it's more of a 'piano album' than a 'guitar album.' with a bit of electronica/industrial influence in a couple of places.

that said, songs like the blues and madagascar are very november rain-esque. If The WOrld is a cheesy ass pop song.

i'm excited to hear the final versions of there was a time and catcher in the rye... those songs rock

95teetee

10-23-2008, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by nonlinear

yea, i agree. it's more of a 'piano album' than a 'guitar album.' with a bit of electronica/industrial influence in a couple of places.

that said, songs like the blues and madagascar are very november rain-esque. If The WOrld is a cheesy ass pop song.

i'm excited to hear the final versions of there was a time and catcher in the rye... those songs rock true dat^

even if new GNR means one less playing of one 'modern' song on one radio/satellite station, the wait is worth it:D

kerry

10-25-2008, 04:27 AM

Originally posted by Inzane
No.

GnR is dead.

Better than Steve Vai's douchebaggery. I actually don't mind it. The track def doesn't have Slash's "soul" to it but it's WAY better than Shacklers.

yt3030

10-29-2008, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by kerry

Better than Steve Vai's douchebaggery. I actually don't mind it. The track def doesn't have Slash's "soul" to it but it's WAY better than Shacklers.

Agreed. I'm still picking the album up just because it is G N' R (Kinda)

rage2

10-29-2008, 12:56 PM

I'm not picking up the new album. I need Axl to go broke so old GnR can re-unite. Part 1 already done, Velvet revolver is in limbo :rofl:.

95teetee

10-29-2008, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by rage2
I'm not picking up the new album. I need Axl to go broke so old GnR can re-unite. Part 1 already done, Velvet revolver is in limbo :rofl:. a reunion would absolutely freakin' rock:D

nonlinear

10-31-2008, 10:20 AM

i agree that slash adds a lot of character to the band, however i saw the band in the early 90s on the faith no more/metallica/gnr tour, and also in 2006, and I can honestly say that the band plays and sounds much better now. this is also super apparent in live recordings. slash and duff were just so fucked up and drunk all the time that it totally compromised their playing. robin finck, tommy stinson, ron thal, etc. are complete pros, and while they don't always play slash's solos note for note, they are a much tighter band and the performances are much better.

however, slash has been totally sober for a couple of years now, so it would be interesting to see the original band perform sober. i'm sure it would fucking rock.

unfortunately can't say the same for steven adler. have any of you seen him on the new season of celebrity rehab. man, he is completely fucked. he can hardly talk.

shin0bi

11-21-2008, 10:43 AM

*Necropost!!!*

Just heard the single for Chinese Democracy.

Ghey. I mean, its not a bad song, but it just doesn't sound like G n' R should sound.

Axl doesn't do his signature falsetto vocals. It just sounds like generic hard rock.

However, if you haven't listened to the track " Better ", I'd suggest you do because its... well, BETTER.

Look it up on seeqpod.com

rage2

11-21-2008, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by shin0bi
*Necropost!!!*

Just heard the single for Chinese Democracy.

Ghey. I mean, its not a bad song, but it just doesn't sound like G n' R should sound.

Axl doesn't do his signature falsetto vocals. It just sounds like generic hard rock.
Listen to the background, you can hear his falsetto voice layered over his low voice. Kinda like Knockin' on Heaven's Door.

Grogador

11-21-2008, 03:45 PM

Listened to the whole album, it's different and I really like it :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

badatusrnames

11-21-2008, 03:46 PM

Originally posted by googe
link to music video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHg5SJYRHA0

It's not that bad...

Kloubek

11-21-2008, 03:47 PM

With Metallica's "Death Magnetic", I was impressed that they were somehow able to get closer to the sound that originally made them famous. In the end, it's an alright album but still is something that history didn't really need.

With this new GnR, it sounds nothing like the old GnR. Axl is trying to reinvent GnR (since everyone has left), and he has failed. It's not that the music is absolutely abysmal, but it just doesn't live up to the hype.

95teetee

11-21-2008, 11:47 PM

Originally posted by shin0bi

However, if you haven't listened to the track " Better ", I'd suggest you do because its... well, BETTER.
I also think 'This I Love' is incredible (although, I guess it was written back in about 1993, so it's kind of an 'old GNR' song)

nonlinear

11-22-2008, 01:05 PM

i downloaded the entire album on tuesday. i've been listening to the various leaks for years now, but hearing the final album in mastered form, i have to say that it's a pretty damn good hard rock record, especially for 2008.

people will say it doesn't sound like GNR, but whatever. people said the same thing when use your illusions were first released. bob dylan once said that an artist must be in a constant state of change to stay relevant, so what you perceive as "not guns n' roses" is fact the art of GNR... if that makes any sense (just woke up heh)

anyhow, i'm gonna pick this up on vinyl tomorrow. might head to HMV this afternoon though and see if they can sell it early

95teetee

11-22-2008, 01:55 PM

Originally posted by nonlinear
i downloaded the entire album on tuesday. i've been listening to the various leaks for years now, but hearing the final album in mastered form, i have to say that it's a pretty damn good hard rock record, especially for 2008.

people will say it doesn't sound like GNR, but whatever. people said the same thing when use your illusions were first released. bob dylan once said that an artist must be in a constant state of change to stay relevant, so what you perceive as "not guns n' roses" is fact the art of GNR... if that makes any sense (just woke up heh)

anyhow, i'm gonna pick this up on vinyl tomorrow. might head to HMV this afternoon though and see if they can sell it early I was gonna PM you to see if you had it the other day, but I figured you would:)

mark4091

11-22-2008, 07:24 PM

Listened to it on the myspace leak, and it's pretty strange.

pyroza

11-23-2008, 12:06 PM

meh, free Dr. Pepper though :)

(US only, sorry!)

SJW

11-24-2008, 10:57 AM

I think this album is fantastic.

Mr. Burns

11-24-2008, 11:03 AM

I listened to it from front to back yesterday... very disappointing. I can't even say for sure that I would have liked it had it been released 12 years ago when it would have still been relevant.

mark4091

11-24-2008, 11:17 AM

Originally posted by Mr. Burns
I listened to it from front to back yesterday... very disappointing. I can't even say for sure that I would have liked it had it been released 12 years ago when it would have still been relevant.

:werd: Very industrial, overproduced. When I hear Guns N' Roses I want to hear hard rock, Chinese Democracy actually made me laugh.

rage2

11-24-2008, 11:21 AM

Horrible :thumbsdow

SJW

11-24-2008, 12:51 PM

it needs to be remastered. Axl put to much emphasis on high notes and less on low.

He shouldn't have produced this one.

nonlinear

11-24-2008, 01:00 PM

industrial... you guys are kidding, right? shackler's might be the clostst to that on this album, but it definately isn't industrial by any stretch of the imagination

:nut:

95teetee

11-24-2008, 07:03 PM

Originally posted by nonlinear
industrial... you guys are kidding, right? shackler's might be the clostst to that on this album, but it definately isn't industrial by any stretch of the imagination

:nut: well there's about 3 seconds at the start of 'Better' that I'd call industrial lol