Manual Luxury Sedan...which one?

[Godfuader]

Will be shopping around this weekend for a Compact Luxury Sedan with stick shift. Off the top of my head I have IS250 rwd and BMW 328. Any other reccomendations?

[Destinova403]

Cadillac CTS with the 6-speed...

http://compare.autodata.gm.ca/compare/frameset.asp?comps=CAB90BMC053A0&comps=CAB90MBC891A0&YearComp=B90&BrandComp=&SuperMakeIDComp=&ModelIDComp=&compVeh1=CAB90MBC891A0&compVeh2=CAB90BMC053A0&compVeh3=&Year=B90&BrandID=CA&MakeID=10117&SuperMakeID=CTS&BaseAcode=CAB90CAC111A0&Lang=en&ModelID=&Internal=N&adv=&dealer=&includeGMNavs=True&DeleteAcode=&Type=&returnToUrl=http%3A%2F%2Fconfigurator.autodata.gm.ca%2FGMCanada%2FvehicleCompare.html

[nbaker00]

Not really compact, but E39 M5?

[J@Tuner]

CTS-V with 6spd
E39 M5
Audi S4/RS4

[bspot]

Used IS 350 or a used S4. BMW 330i.

Don't bother with the 250... incredibly weak. Overpriced RWD Camry.

[A790]

Saab 9-3 Aero.

[Hakkola]

Not enough info. Price? New or used?

Are is250's and 328i's really luxury sedans?

[TeamBestBud]

Acura TL? My 05 is a 6 speed and I love it.

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Hakkola
Not enough info. Price? New or used?

Are is250's and 328i's really luxury sedans?
Was just gonna clarify:

Price: $35K - $45K
Looking for Lease (36-48mth)
Most likely New...or used with ample warranty
Will be all-season daily driver so needs to be compact size
Luxury in the sense that not looking for a mazda or matrix. So something entry level on the ''luxury'' brands.

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by Godfuader

Was just gonna clarify:

Price: $35K - $45K
Looking for Lease (36-48mth)
Most likely New...or used with ample warranty
Will be all-season daily driver so needs to be compact size
Luxury in the sense that not looking for a mazda or matrix. So something entry level on the ''luxury'' brands.

I'm driving an 08 328i right now and I have to say that it is a great car, not sure if you'll find a well equiped one for 45k though, I'm assuming you want a moonroof and all that stuff.

[imjimmylin]

RS4 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by bspot
Used IS 350 or a used S4. BMW 330i.

Don't bother with the 250... incredibly weak. Overpriced RWD Camry.
IS350 doensnt come in a manual. The IS250 is a great choice, decent lease rate however the manuals are rare and never in stock. Waiting time on one is anywhere from 4- 8 weeks generally depending on color and package.

[realazy]

Well not a luxury but a Legacy Spec B is a good car to consider.

It's AWD and has the 2.5 Turbo and comes with the 6 speed manual. It's right in your price range too.

[Xtrema]

TSX
C230/300
IS250
A4 2.0T (Spring 09 for manual)
S40 T5

If you find any 08 328 or 323 left, BMW is having 2% lease up to 39 months and $4100 off MSRP from factory.

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Hakkola


I'm driving an 08 328i right now and I have to say that it is a great car, not sure if you'll find a well equiped one for 45k though, I'm assuming you want a moonroof and all that stuff.

bmw.ca shows 2009 328i Sedan w/ Premium package + options
6-Speed Manual Transmission
Front seats, 8-way electrically adjustable w/driver memory
Premium Package
Heated Steering Wheel
BMW Assist with Bluetooth Wireless Technology

...for $42,700. But im sure there are freight, taxes, levies, fees that will probably stack couple thousand more.

[2002civic]

Originally posted by imjimmylin
RS4 :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool: :drool:
a little out of his price range;)

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Godfuader


bmw.ca shows 2009 328i Sedan w/ Premium package + options
6-Speed Manual Transmission
Front seats, 8-way electrically adjustable w/driver memory
Premium Package
Heated Steering Wheel
BMW Assist with Bluetooth Wireless Technology

...for $42,700. But im sure there are freight, taxes, levies, fees that will probably stack couple thousand more.

Freight $2K, Admin fee $300, Air/Tire tax probably about $200.

[urban.one]

if youre leasing and not planning to buy it out at the end, why worry about total price. monthly payment should be your concern.

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

IS350 doensnt come in a manual. The IS250 is a great choice, decent lease rate however the manuals are rare and never in stock. Waiting time on one is anywhere from 4- 8 weeks generally depending on color and package.
What kind of Lease rates are posted? between 08 vs 09 what is the difference in model and rates?

[Doozer]

Originally posted by Godfuader

Was just gonna clarify:

Price: $35K - $45K
Looking for Lease (36-48mth)
Most likely New...or used with ample warranty
Will be all-season daily driver so needs to be compact size
Luxury in the sense that not looking for a mazda or matrix. So something entry level on the ''luxury'' brands.

I love my Alty. I wouldn't call it luxury, but with a full leather package, heated seats, etc, it's still on the low end of your price range. Solid engine - the new ones are pushing 300hp; same engine as the 350Z and G35.

Although I'm not a huge fan of the new (07+) styling, I think the bang-for-buck is very competitive.

EDIT:
something entry level on the ''luxury'' brands Nevermind, just re-read this part....

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by Doozer


I love my Alty. I wouldn't call it luxury, but with a full leather package, heated seats, etc, it's still on he low end of your price range. Solid engine - the new ones are pushing 300hp; same engine as the 350Z and G35.

Although I'm not a huge fan of the new (07+) styling, I think the bang-for-buck is very competitive.

They are not "pushing" 300hp.

Altima has always used VQ35DE. 07+ 350Z and G have switched to VQ35HR.

Totally different experience. Plus manual Altima is hard to come by and you won't get much discount for it. It's fast but it's FWD, not as "fun".

And really Nissan - although improved since 2003 - still have one of the shittest interior in the industry.

[sillysod]

how about the A3? it is almost as large inside as the A4 or 3 series. A4 is gonna be over 45k but keep in mind that the A3 is only FWD with 6spd, which is kinda gay.

A 328i with virtually no options but the sport package is gonna run you $42k.

An A4 with nothing is $41k.

A nicely apoointed A3 is about $40k.

is250 gets taken by gas school busses so I wouldn't even consider it.

CTS is gonna be a safe bet but if it was me....


Passat CC for under $40,000.00 loaded with a 2.0T and 6spd

http://www.cars.com/features/autoshows/2008/detroit/coverage/images/2009_volkswagen_passat_cc/2009_volkswagen_passat_cc_0_430.jpg


http://www.automobilesreview.com/gallery/vw-passat-cc/vw-passat-cc-08.jpg

[Eleanor]

Caddy /thread.

[Boosted Gtir]

Passat CC is a good choice but it is not out yet and he said he is looking this weekend.

Reading > you

...but i do dig the CC styling :thumbsup:

[Aleks]

09 BMW 328i with premium and sport pack is $45K. S/R is now standard on those cars. They adjusted their options and prices.

If I HAD to have a manual it would be between that and IS250.

[Destinova403]

Originally posted by Eleanor
Caddy /thread.

the CTS with the DI V6 with plenty of power and the 6-speed can be had for less than 40k

not to mention that there will be sales incentives on top of that (love GM)

that alone makes it worth taking a look at...

that and the interior

http://z.about.com/d/cars/1/0/s/b/gm_06cts_int.jpg
http://www.seriouswheels.com/pics-2008/def/2008-D3-Cadillac-CTS-Front-Angle-Machinery-1024x768.jpg

[Masked Bandit]

While not in the world of luxury.......

What about a 2009 Pontiac G8 GT? 400hp, rwd and a stick available?

[Super_Geo]

You should check out leasebusters.com.

[Inzane]

Originally posted by Xtrema
And really Nissan - although improved since 2003 - still have one of the shittest interior in the industry.

While I'm not going to argue and pretend interiors are a strong point of Nissan (they're not), they are still LEAGUES ahead of anything from GM (other than maybe the CTS).

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Godfuader

What kind of Lease rates are posted? between 08 vs 09 what is the difference in model and rates?
o8'S were sold out months ago.. you're looking at 4.9% lease rate for an 09.

[blownz]

Originally posted by Boosted Gtir
Passat CC is a good choice but it is not out yet and he said he is looking this weekend.

Reading > you

...but i do dig the CC styling :thumbsup:

They are actually at the dealers already...sooo...knowledge > you... :D

[PINOY-X]

TL Type S

[sillysod]

Originally posted by Boosted Gtir
Passat CC is a good choice but it is not out yet and he said he is looking this weekend.

Reading > you

...but i do dig the CC styling :thumbsup:

saw 1 at southcenter already

:poosie:

edit: do you wanna deal with Calgary BMW anyways?

Calgary BMW is AWSOME!!!! (http://www.beyond.ca/calgary-bmw-staff-joyride-in-customer-m3/831.html)

[The_Rural_Juror]

All I have to say about the Caddy is "bong bong bong".

[Aleks]

Originally posted by PINOY-X
TL Type S

I guess he never said he wanted a sport sedan so ya this offering would qualify... :D

[GQBalla]

wow the new cts is amazing

[Moe Man]

I would say Cadillac CTS. :closed:

[Boosted Gtir]

"They are actually at the dealers already...sooo...knowledge > you... "

"saw 1 at southcenter already"

my bad I thought they were not out yet. Sorry guys.

In that case I say +1 for the CC then :thumbsup:

[Godfuader]

So asides from the IS and 328, I think the Caddy would be worth a look. The TL, not so much, considering that already have an 08 RDX ready for pickup tomorrow; Dont need two new Acuras. Not a huge fan of C-Series MB or Volvo.

As for used. How is Audi for running cost of ownership? Wouldn't mind having a look at a used S4 with some balance of warranty. VW/Audi owners tend to complain often about random problems.

[clem24]

I second the Legacy GT, over a used S4. The ratio of bad to good stories from Audi is quite high. I've also been getting average of 23-24MPG with my LGT wagon in the city and I drive downtown and back every weekday during rush hour (8am and 6pm).

[bituerbo]

Cost of owning an Audi is higher, but if you're going brand new w/ warranty, or certified pre-owned then you won't have to worry about it. With Audi you could probably flip it at the end of your lease and turn a profit, I don't think they give their residuals very much credit.

[bspot]

V8 S4's are one of the more reliable Audis actually. Fuel consumption is TERRIBLE though. Like really really bad.... if that is even a remote consideration don't get one.

[RC-Cola]

I've had a '06 A4 2.0T Quattro for 2+ years and haven't had a single issue. The dealership(s) have been excellent and would recommend one to anyone. That being said it's no the sportiest car around and you can get fast/more aggressive for less. It all depends your tastes, I would suggest going to some dealers and driving them. :burnout:

I would stay away from used A3's though as the first two model years as they had problems. One Audi mechanic told me under his breath to stay away from them as they are the bottom of the year for Audi and they built them that way.

[2002civic]

We have one in our showroom and a demo right now :dunno:

Originally posted by Boosted Gtir
Passat CC is a good choice but it is not out yet and he said he is looking this weekend.

Reading > you

...but i do dig the CC styling :thumbsup:

[doctortalon]

you have to try out the Subaru Legacy Spec B -- its sweet better value, awd 2.5L turbo 250hp 250lb.tq -- 18's bilstein suspention, 6speed manual -- etc. $45000


http://images.paultan.org/uploads/2006/08/subaru_legacy_sti_1.jpg

[sillysod]

I definately say no to used Audi.

I have owned mine since new (200,000km on it now) - all in all has been a fantastic car. Only problem is that normal wear n' tear parts are cracked out expensive to get replaced.

Clutch, Timing Belt, Brakes combined is over $7,000.00 at G.Audi to get done (I did them all at the same time).

I have never had my car break down on me other than coil packs (which is common) but it goes into limp mode and you can get to a dealership to get it fixed. Even in super cold weather up north in Alaska or hot hot weather in Vegas it has never sputtered.

If you get the APR 1+ kit w/injectors (Concept 1) it gets you up to about 230hp and 280ft/lbs.... which makes the car a lot more driveable. (180hp & 170ft/lbs is brutal in a heavy AWD car).

[rc2002]

OP, what's your budget? M3 sedan has 1% rate on it right now. That's an amazing looking and performing car.

*edit* Oops, didn't see your post about $35-$45k. I would opt for a gently used 335i or an S4 for that kind of money.

[Inzane]

Originally posted by doctortalon
you have to try out the Subaru Legacy Spec B -- its sweet better value, awd 2.5L turbo 250hp 250lb.tq -- 18's bilstein suspention, 6speed manual -- etc. $45000


http://images.paultan.org/uploads/2006/08/subaru_legacy_sti_1.jpg

I agree with the Legacy Spec B recommendation, however the car in the picture you provided is the Japan-only Legacy STi, which we sadly won't be getting. :(

[Casa]

How about an 03-05 BMW M3 sedan? i love those
or an 06 G35 sedan? cheaper, but the lease payments will be less.
Used S4 or IS250 would also be nice, IS250 is gutless though.
and if you don't want luxury, WRX STI
haha

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by Casa
How about an 03-05 BMW M3 sedan?
How do you love something that does not exist?

[Casa]

Originally posted by Eleanor

How do you love something that does not exist?

oh shoot
only E36 and the new E92 made them in Sedans. my fault.

E39 M5 than!

[Godfuader]

Originally posted by Casa


oh shoot
only E36 and the new E92 made them in Sedans. my fault.

E39 M5 than!
You got me all excited for nothing. haha. I went frantically onto Autotrader but could not find an '04-'05 M3 Sedan.

A few people chimed in for Suby's, so wouldn't mind testing those waters out. The car will be for my brother and we dont need to pull the trigger this weekend, but would like something before the white stuff moves in.

[syeve]

Originally posted by bspot
V8 S4's are one of the more reliable Audis actually. Fuel consumption is TERRIBLE though. Like really really bad.... if that is even a remote consideration don't get one.

QFT!! :D

[SilverRex]

how bout coupe (i know you want sedan), didnt someone posted a lease take over for a 6 speed v6 coupe and offering 2000 cash incentive?

[dj_rice]

RS4

[TunerF1]

My vote goes to the TL-S... love that car in the 6 speed! :love:

[rp_guy]

Originally posted by Casa


oh shoot
only E36 and the new E92 made them in Sedans. my fault.

E39 M5 than!

E90 sedan. no 'E92' sedan.

i think you're aiming for a new lease tho so that kinda limits your choice. but CTS :hitit: :guns: :clap:

[sneek]

Audi A3 3.2 or 2.0...they both kind of felt the same to me, although the 2 felt peppier but the 3.2 Quattro will be better for winter. As for reliability issues...it kind of comes with the territory. Besides Lexus and Acura chances are maintenance costs and reliability won't be the best.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by sneek
Audi A3 3.2 or 2.0...they both kind of felt the same to me, although the 2 felt peppier

New 2.0T has more torque than 3.2

[sillysod]

no a3 quattro w/manual. :(

[2.2vtec]

TL or wait till the TSX comes out with V6 :) but not sure when that will be.

[pinoyhero]

New TL, OMG!

[SetoJai]

audi a4 2.7T :thumbsup:

[asp integra]

you could easily get a really nice 2004+ audi s4 for what your looking to spend! thats what i would recomend for sure!

[A790]

I love my Saab. I have a 220HP turbo 6-spd, and I regularly get 47+ mpg around town. :)

[Neil4Speed]

Originally posted by A790
I love my Saab. I have a 220HP turbo 6-spd, and I regularly get 47+ mpg around town. :)

What?! That means on your 62L tank you get 1240km?! Phenomenal!

[Weapon_R]

Originally posted by A790
I love my Saab. I have a 220HP turbo 6-spd, and I regularly get 47+ mpg around town. :)

EPA rating for your car is around 18MPG in town...how are you getting almost triple that..

[gpomp]

Originally posted by Weapon_R


EPA rating for your car is around 18MPG in town...how are you getting almost triple that.. i get 95+ MPG in my civic around town

[Casa]

Originally posted by A790
I love my Saab. I have a 220HP turbo 6-spd, and I regularly get 47+ mpg around town. :)

please explain, how does that make any sense?

[A790]

Originally posted by Weapon_R


EPA rating for your car is around 18MPG in town...how are you getting almost triple that..
Well, Calgary has a lot of freeways (Deerfoot, Crowchild, etc.). I make use of them :)

Even in stop and go I routinely get 30+ mpg. Hell, I have pics to prove it (on board fuel consumption meter). And, unlike most fuel meter dealies, mine reports an average over the period that it was reset.

And yes, when I drove the car back from Ontario I was getting over 1,300km per tank of gas. This is exactly why I don't own a Civic (or some other gas-saving vehicle), as this thing is exceptional on gas. To anyone who doesn't believe me, I'll be more than happy to take y'all for a spin sometime so you can watch the fuel meter yourself :)

[Aleks]

Originally posted by A790

Well, Calgary has a lot of freeways (Deerfoot, Crowchild, etc.). I make use of them :)

Even in stop and go I routinely get 30+ mpg. Hell, I have pics to prove it (on board fuel consumption meter). And, unlike most fuel meter dealies, mine reports an average over the period that it was reset.

And yes, when I drove the car back from Ontario I was getting over 1,300km per tank of gas. This is exactly why I don't own a Civic (or some other gas-saving vehicle), as this thing is exceptional on gas. To anyone who doesn't believe me, I'll be more than happy to take y'all for a spin sometime so you can watch the fuel meter yourself :)

47mpg is about 5L/100kms. Unless you're using imperial mpg. It's just hard to see how anyone can get that in city driving. I get about 22mpg in pure city driving and I thought my car was awsome on gas.

:dunno:

[A790]

Originally posted by Aleks


47mpg is about 5L/100kms. Unless you're using imperial mpg. It's just hard to see how anyone can get that in city driving. I get about 22mpg in pure city driving and I thought my car was awsome on gas.

:dunno:
Yea, sounds about right. I don't see how this is so hard to figure out.

Most of my drives take me down Anderson (cruising at 80), on to 14th or Deerfoot. I don't really boost the car much unless I'm trying to pass someone. Hell, even when I'm driving aggressively I still average around 30 mpg.

And it's set to Metric, so it records an average of 5.6L/100KM-ish. Sometimes I can get it into the 4's if I'm on a stretch of a downward slope :P

[TorqueDog]

Man, I love some of the Saab product... but forgive me for being skeptical of your fuel economy figures, they just seem far too high.

[A790]

Originally posted by TorqueDog
Man, I love some of the Saab product... but forgive me for being skeptical of your fuel economy figures, they just seem far too high.
Fair enough. I'm not exactly a fan of Saab (I only like this one car). I just drive it nicely, and go a long time between fill ups.

[max_boost]

Isn't the SAAB the same motor as the WRX?

lol I get 10km/L on the WRX ...... sucks haha

[A790]

Originally posted by max_boost
Isn't the SAAB the same motor as the WRX?

lol I get 10km/L on the WRX ...... sucks haha
No. I have a 2.0L turbo based off the ecotec.

[nismodrifter]

Your numbers seem straight up wack. It's hard for me to get those numbers driving grandma style in either of our TDI's.

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by nismodrifter
Your numbers seem straight up wack. It's hard for me to get those numbers driving grandma style in either of our TDI's. I was doing 100 KM/H down-hill in sixth with my foot off the gas while drafting a semi and I was still only getting 36 MPG. :rofl:

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by TorqueDog
I was doing 100 KM/H down-hill in sixth with my foot off the gas while drafting a semi and I was still only getting 36 MPG. :rofl:

pfft, i turn my engine off when i go downhill. i still only get 20mpg.... but then again i drive a rotary.

btw: lol at 47mpg in a saab turbo

[adamc]

I'm at like 16l - 100kms

It's killing me.

[max_boost]

It's possible for A790's on board consumption meter to be off? lol I think he knows how ridiculars his claim is but he's a mod so we'll go easy on him......;)

[TorqueDog]

Originally posted by adamc
I'm at like 16l - 100kms

It's killing me. I saw an E34 M5 driving westbound down 17th Avenue SW past 14th St last night around 11:30 PM... you I presume?

[dimi]

Your trip meter is very optimistic. Also almost all the trip meters that I have used have the average function. I do a lot of highway kms in the winter going back and forth to Sunshine Village. The main vehicles that me and friends use are a Passat 1.8T and a Jetta 2.0. We have never seen over 30 mpg, although we do get close. Granted the cars are usually loaded up and heavy, I cannot see how you get 17+ mpg more on what you describe as "city" driving, which is basically freeway.

[A790]

Originally posted by dimi
Your trip meter is very optimistic. Also almost all the trip meters that I have used have the average function. I do a lot of highway kms in the winter going back and forth to Sunshine Village. The main vehicles that me and friends use are a Passat 1.8T and a Jetta 2.0. We have never seen over 30 mpg, although we do get close. Granted the cars are usually loaded up and heavy, I cannot see how you get 17+ mpg more on what you describe as "city" driving, which is basically freeway.
Perhaps, though my gas receipts show mileage that's similar. My last tank of gas was all city driving, to and from Mount Royal, etc. and I got just over 900km to the tank. I'm going to check the next 3 or 4 tanks and see what the average is. I'm also going to drive the car harder than I normally do :)

[gpomp]

maybe it's running on 3 cylinders? it's a saab after all.

[BoS_DC2]

Originally posted by gpomp
maybe it's running on 3 cylinders? it's a saab after all.

lol.

[A790]

Originally posted by gpomp
maybe it's running on 3 cylinders? it's a saab after all.

:rofl:

[Godfuader]

Update:

Only had time this weekend to check out the 328/335 and the IS250.

Dealing with BMW was a bigger problem than originally assumed. All the manuals were prefitted with useless options like premium sound ($1,200) Premium package ($2,800), Metallic Paint ($800?) Salesman was really insistent on the winter wheels for $2,900, so the price kept rising.

Lexus: First of all, I have to agree with everyone who said that the IS250 is gutless. Powerwise, it felt no different than a standard Toyota. Asides from power, the ride was very smooth, comfortable, everything was laid out in a good setup, and the price was decent.

Drove thru the Subaru dealership, and looks-wise nothing jumped out, especially the STi.

Next week, will try and re visit the TL. On a side note: The '09 RDX with Navi, bluetooth and Voice package picked up on Saturday is amazing value for the dollar.

[Inzane]

Originally posted by Godfuader
Update:

Only had time this weekend to check out the 328/335

Dealing with BMW was a bigger problem than originally assumed. All the manuals were prefitted with useless options like premium sound ($1,200) Premium package ($2,800), Metallic Paint ($800?) Salesman was really insistent on the winter wheels for $2,900, so the price kept rising.

Driving impressions? (I still have to drive a 328i for myself... I've only driven a 335i auto so far).

[Tik-Tok]

Originally posted by A790

Perhaps, though my gas receipts show mileage that's similar. My last tank of gas was all city driving, to and from Mount Royal, etc. and I got just over 900km to the tank.

Are you sure your odometer is right?

Your claims just seem so outlandish.. did you install a turbonator or something, lol.

[A790]

Originally posted by Tik-Tok


Are you sure your odometer is right?

Your claims just seem so outlandish.. did you install a turbonator or something, lol.
Pretty sure. It's going in for a service on Wednesday so I'll get them to check everything?

I do know that based on other vehicles I've driven that this one is by far the most fuel efficient. I go a long ways before I have to fill it, and now that gas is down again it's that much sweeter :P

[Team_Mclaren]

^ you should give Saab a call and tell them that their cars actually do 48MPG, maybe then they'll sell more than 2 cars a year :rofl:

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Godfuader
Update:

Only had time this weekend to check out the 328/335 and the IS250.

Dealing with BMW was a bigger problem than originally assumed. All the manuals were prefitted with useless options like premium sound ($1,200) Premium package ($2,800), Metallic Paint ($800?) Salesman was really insistent on the winter wheels for $2,900, so the price kept rising.

Lexus: First of all, I have to agree with everyone who said that the IS250 is gutless. Powerwise, it felt no different than a standard Toyota. Asides from power, the ride was very smooth, comfortable, everything was laid out in a good setup, and the price was decent.

Drove thru the Subaru dealership, and looks-wise nothing jumped out, especially the STi.

Next week, will try and re visit the TL. On a side note: The '09 RDX with Navi, bluetooth and Voice package picked up on Saturday is amazing value for the dollar.

They are probably trying to push the remaining 08s out?

You can always factory order the exact car you want.

PS what kind of deal were you able to get on the RDX?

[A790]

Originally posted by Team_Mclaren
^ you should give Saab a call and tell them that their cars actually do 48MPG, maybe then they'll sell more than 2 cars a year :rofl:

:rofl: They sold at least 3 last year... can't be doing that bad ;)

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by A790

I do know that based on other vehicles I've driven that this one is by far the most fuel efficient. I go a long ways before I have to fill it, and now that gas is down again it's that much sweeter :P

you can't be serious. you're not gettin 900km per tank unless your tank is around 120 Litre capacity (atleast).

[bobby_lu]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict


you can't be serious. you're not gettin 900km per tank unless your tank is around 120 Litre capacity (atleast).

Check your math skills, 900km on 120L is around 13.3L/100km which is good, for an SUV.

Actually just googled it and seems to be a 63L tank, which gives 7L/100km.

[Boosted Gtir]

wow maybe i should reconsider a hybrid and go get a 9-3 lol
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

but seriously isnt the saab fairly similar to the Mk5 GTI? Around 2.0L, turbo, front wheel drive, similar weight? How could it get soooo much better fuel economy???

I call :bullshit:

[khtm]

MSN calls BS too...by like 80% ;)

http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_engines.aspx?year=2003&make=Saab&model=9-3&trimid=-1

[CTSV]

Mileage for the SAAB does seem very high. Maybe yours has one of the secret carburetors on it? You know, the ones we all used to hear about. Has anyone from SAAB tried to buy it back from you? My son is really interested in SAABS.
Seriously though, idling in traffic just kills my mileage. In town I can do 13 litres/100 km with my V. If I get stuck in traffic goes to 16 which still isn't bad for 400hp car. Highway yesterday driving back from Vegas 10.0 litres/100KM. Got as high as 23.8 mpg US driving 73mph over 300 plus miles per trip computer.

[HP2133]

mine does 13 L / 100 KM in the city
8.5 outside with cruise control


47 MPG US = 5 L / 100 Km. My other one, the Mazda Protege LX with a 1.8 and lighter than yours uses 7 L / 100Km.
For city driving, the numbers for your SAAB are incorrect