Uh oh.... Snow on Tues.. Time for Winters?

[Pihsiak]

So I looked at the weather and it says flurries on tues....

time to swap out the summers? or do we have a few more weeks?

[riced]

lately it's been getting pretty chilly in the mornings and sometimes during the afternoon.. even though we had a good week
It wouldn't hurt to swap them just in case the snow decides to come early, or even just dump.

Knowing Calgary, I would if I didn't have them on yet.

[dimi]

I run Azenis RT-615. Pretty fucking sketchy during cold mornings. I have lowered my wheel swap time to 20 mins so they go on and off quite frequently depending on the weather conditions.

[nobb]

It says only 1-3cm snow over 24hr, that's barely anything. Going to warm up later on in the week anyways, so Im guessing it will all melt off. I guess if you have summer tires, then you probably should change them sooner. Im running all seasons, so I think Ill wait a little longer.

[CivicDXR]

people dont realize that winter tires are not just about grip in the snow, summers become fairly useless and turn into pucks below a certain temperature... I believe its 7 degrees celcius...

all seasons become useless at around -7... most all season tires are just called all seasons for areas of mild climates, they're not really meant to handle very cold temperatures...

winter tires are more about the compound of the tire, rather than the tread of the tire...

that being said, mine have been on for about 2 weeks now to be safe since its been colder out... I'd rather change them over when its nice out, rather than have to change them when its freezing and snowing outside...

[max_boost]

I think I'm going to switch over tomorrow :D

[RX_EVOLV]

swapped mine today.. looks like it will start snowing next next week

[ottamania]

Originally posted by RX_EVOLV
swapped mine today.. looks like it will start snowing next next week

I swapped mine as well. getting ready for the snow :banghead:

[badatusrnames]

Originally posted by CivicDXR
people dont realize that winter tires are not just about grip in the snow, summers become fairly useless and turn into pucks below a certain temperature... I believe its 7 degrees celsius...

all seasons because useless at around -7... most all season tires are just called all seasons for areas of mild climates, they're not really meant to handle very cold temperatures...

winter tires are more about the compound of the tire, rather than the tread of the tire...


:werd:

[ryanallan]

mine have been on for a couple weeks now

my summers were really loosing grip below 10C . . .
especially one evening when it was -1, they were useless

i would swap yours just to safe.
you wouldn't want to understeer into a curb and ruin your summer wheels .

[v2kai]

put mine on today, my summers turn to pucks as soon as it drops below zero

[n1zm0]

i put new observes on my winter beater about 2 weeks ago, still driving with Falken 451s on the summer car, till the bitter end! :nut:

actually one morning the glenmore resevoir overpass had a good 1.5 meter sheet of ice on it, almost pointed me towards the median

[barmanjay]

Just a few days ago I took off my 33 baja claws and put on my tiny 28" M+S's

good thing,.. even though the jeep looks funny

[Sorath]

just swapped over to my winter rims today

[BlackArcher101]

Personally, I always have them changed by Nov 1 or first snowfall, whichever is earlier. Weather out here is too unpredictable to rely on a forecast for warning.

However, I say if you want to drag it out... you can keep em off for now (if you don't have summer performance rubber). Have summers? Put the winters on now, as cold weather + harder compound doesn't mix.

If they are calling for a high of 0-5 degrees for the snowy days, then the snow won't accumulate on the road anyways. The road temperature is always higher than air with radiant heating from the sun. Of course this isn't as true on bridges or shaddy areas.

[dino_martini]

Swapped last week. Summers are sitting safely wrapped in plastic in the garage.

[Kavy]

Im holding out a bit longer my hakkas lasted one winter last year because of the -10 t0 +18 days we had.

My thoughts are one more week

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by dino_martini
Swapped last week. Summers are sitting safely wrapped in plastic in the garage.

They would probably be better off somewhere warmer - unless your garage is heated.

[Xtrema]

Originally posted by CivicDXR
people dont realize that winter tires are not just about grip in the snow, summers become fairly useless and turn into pucks below a certain temperature... I believe its 7 degrees celcius...

all seasons become useless at around -7... most all season tires are just called all seasons for areas of mild climates, they're not really meant to handle very cold temperatures...

winter tires are more about the compound of the tire, rather than the tread of the tire...

that being said, mine have been on for about 2 weeks now to be safe since its been colder out... I'd rather change them over when its nice out, rather than have to change them when its freezing and snowing outside...

This should be stickied. People keep thinking they are for snow.

[SetoJai]

i should go buy mine... lol

[Kloubek]

Originally posted by CivicDXR
people dont realize that winter tires are not just about grip in the snow, summers become fairly useless and turn into pucks below a certain temperature... I believe its 7 degrees celcius...

...all seasons become useless at around -7... most all season tires



Was going to bring this up if nobody else did.

I believe it's 7 degrees OVER 0 where all seasons begin to lose grip. But that doesn't make them uselless. They just start to lose grip. Some all seasons perform half decent in the cold and snow.

So, to the OP, put the winter tires on. You aren't going to see a lot of 7+ degree weather coming up for long.

[Pihsiak]

Damn better do mine in the next 2 days

[dino_martini]

Originally posted by The_Rural_Juror


They would probably be better off somewhere warmer - unless your garage is heated.

Heated garage. Nice and toasty in there :) Otherwise they would be in my basement for sure :thumbsup:

[rp_guy]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb70/rp_guy/VolvoWinter2004pg4.jpg

[BlackArcher101]

Excellent graph

[cloud7]

Originally posted by The_Rural_Juror


They would probably be better off somewhere warmer - unless your garage is heated.

Does it make that much of a difference for street tires, even if they are summer tires? Having said that, I always put my race tires in the basement for the winter.

[Speed_69]

I'll probably be putting mine on later this week or next week.

[2EFNFAST]

Originally posted by CivicDXR
summers become fairly useless and turn into pucks below a certain temperature... I believe its 7 degrees celcius...

.

Oh please :facepalm:

I've routinely driven 400-500RWhp (i.e., RWD) below freezing (0 to -15 probably) as long as they roads are clear - do you have less traction, absolutely, but are your tires useless pucks - no. Are you going to go sliding into guardrails because you tapped the gas - no.

See, there's this great mod called being a smart driver and knowing how to drive properly. I've never once spun out, slid on a curve, had any type of traction problem below freezing on winter tires (as long as the roads were clear - snow/sleet/slush/etc.., forget about it then, just talking perfectly clear road below freezing).

Unfortunately, this seems to be a foreign concept on here, with the 1zjzpdk4g super spoon engines that the kiddies feel they need to launch at every stoplight from 6000rpm.

Drive smartly and the only thing you have to fear with summers is snow/sleet/slush/etc....

[max_boost]

^^

not everyone has skills like you apparently :dunno:

for the average driver, winters will make an enormous difference.

[Altezza]

Originally posted by Kavy
Im holding out a bit longer my hakkas lasted one winter last year because of the -10 t0 +18 days we had.

My thoughts are one more week

Perhaps drive more sensibly during the winter. My Hakkas have lasted 6 years.

[dimi]

Originally posted by 2EFNFAST


Oh please :facepalm:

I've routinely driven 400-500RWhp (i.e., RWD) below freezing (0 to -15 probably) as long as they roads are clear - do you have less traction, absolutely, but are your tires useless pucks - no. Are you going to go sliding into guardrails because you tapped the gas - no.

See, there's this great mod called being a smart driver and knowing how to drive properly. I've never once spun out, slid on a curve, had any type of traction problem below freezing on winter tires (as long as the roads were clear - snow/sleet/slush/etc.., forget about it then, just talking perfectly clear road below freezing).

Unfortunately, this seems to be a foreign concept on here, with the 1zjzpdk4g super spoon engines that the kiddies feel they need to launch at every stoplight from 6000rpm.

Drive smartly and the only thing you have to fear with summers is snow/sleet/slush/etc....

:werd: I would have to agree. The only time my summers are sketchy is early mornings when they aren't warmed up. Drop the pressure from 36-38 to around 30 drive carefully for the first 5 mins while they warm up and I gurantee you will get more grip out of your summer tire. There is no way my winters will get anywhere close to the grip I have from summers at 7 degrees. Granted they have a smaller tread width, but the soft sidewall more than makes up for that. They are wicked in slush/ice/snow. Blizzak LM-60 Highly recommend. On a clear road though, man do they ever slide.

Then again if it snows while I'm at school I'm fucked.

[DC2]

Sawpped my summers on saturday, the vehicles I drive with all seasons can wait another couple weeks or so.

[5000Audi]

i got WR's on my car so no need to swap out :bigpimp:

[Casa]

i've been on winters for two weeks here just cause it gets cold and summers become useless.

[nobb]

Why do you guys store your wheels in the basement for the winter? Does storing them in the cold hurt them or something? I figure as long as you place them horizontally so no flat spots develop, then they should be fine. I did read that you should put them in bags to protect it from ozone though...which causes the rubber to dry and crack.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

[2EFNFAST]

Originally posted by max_boost
^^

not everyone has skills like you apparently :dunno:

for the average driver, winters will make an enormous difference.

Yo I've got teh mad skillz!

Either that or I don't throw my car around corners like it's a go-kart and I understand how the gas pedal works.

Either/or will do :drama:



Originally posted by nobb
Why do you guys store your wheels in the basement for the winter? Does storing them in the cold hurt them or something? I figure as long as you place them horizontally so no flat spots develop, then they should be fine. I did read that you should put them in bags to protect it from ozone though...which causes the rubber to dry and crack.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

Place them on their sides, ontop of some wood.

Same with storing a car - drive it up on wooden boards, don't let hte tires just sit on concrete.

[ShermanEF9]

Originally posted by nobb
Why do you guys store your wheels in the basement for the winter? Does storing them in the cold hurt them or something? I figure as long as you place them horizontally so no flat spots develop, then they should be fine. I did read that you should put them in bags to protect it from ozone though...which causes the rubber to dry and crack.

Someone correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct to my understanding.

[blownz]

^ what is wrong with being on concrete? Most people storing tires in the basement probably have them on concrete too. :dunno:


And as for me, I put my winters on my suv last week so I am ready, but I will keep the summers on my car as long as possible since if it snows overnight I can just drive the suv. Once the snow is here to stay (likely before the end of the month) I will put the winters on my car as well.

[CivicDXR]

Originally posted by 2EFNFAST


Oh please :facepalm:

I've routinely driven 400-500RWhp (i.e., RWD) below freezing (0 to -15 probably) as long as they roads are clear - do you have less traction, absolutely, but are your tires useless pucks - no. Are you going to go sliding into guardrails because you tapped the gas - no.

See, there's this great mod called being a smart driver and knowing how to drive properly. I've never once spun out, slid on a curve, had any type of traction problem below freezing on winter tires (as long as the roads were clear - snow/sleet/slush/etc.., forget about it then, just talking perfectly clear road below freezing).

Unfortunately, this seems to be a foreign concept on here, with the 1zjzpdk4g super spoon engines that the kiddies feel they need to launch at every stoplight from 6000rpm.

Drive smartly and the only thing you have to fear with summers is snow/sleet/slush/etc....

wow, I bow down to the 'summer tires in winter' driving god... wow, you've driven 400-500HP cars in the winter...

but lets consider this... and you said yourself that there is less traction on summer tires...

We're both sitting at the same light stopped. Its -15 out. You're on your summers, I'm on my winters. We hear a horn behind us and both look in our rear view windows at the same time to see a vehicle sliding sideways towards us, unable to stop. We both jam the gas to get out of the way. There is only one difference between after that. I'm filling out a police report as a witness to a car accident. You're filling out a police report because you got hit because of you had less traction and could not get out of the way in time, or hit someone else cause you could not control your car.

I'm not saying that its gonna happen. I'm just a firm believer of being prepared for emergency situations due to other drivers. Yes, I'm a smart driver. Do I drive in the winter like I've got the best traction in the world? No. I still drive careful. I still take my corners carefully, and accelerate/brake at a slow place.

The point I'm trying to make is that there is more to fear in the winter than snow/sleet/slush/etc. I fear other unprepared drivers. You could be the best driver in the world, and someone could come along and hit you. So I hope you are nowhere near me when its nasty out, and an emergency situation occurs.

That is all. Carry on. :)

[5G_celica]

WHAT?!?!??! winter's here? did summer even start? :D

if I ever get back my eclipse I'll be putting on the winter tires asap.


just wondering how all terrain tires work in the snow? just bought a jimmy and it has goodyear wranglers on with >90% tread on them. I don't really want to shell out the money to buy winter tires, since I already have a car that has winter tires on them for the really bad days.

[CivicDXR]

Originally posted by 5G_celica
WHAT?!?!??! winter's here? did summer even start? :D

if I ever get back my eclipse I'll be putting on the winter tires asap.


just wondering how all terrain tires work in the snow? just bought a jimmy and it has goodyear wranglers on with >90% tread on them. I don't really want to shell out the money to buy winter tires, since I already have a car that has winter tires on them for the really bad days.

Your A/T's are probably good for all terrains, but like I said earlier, they are built for warmer temperatures out. The compound of the tires is the difference because its harder at lower temperatures.

[alloroc]

http://wx.ca/?service=page/Forecast

It is rare that both weatherbug and environment Canada almost concur. If nothing else they both weem to guarantee the roads will be near freezing and wet. Something I dont' want to drive on with pure summers.

Think I'll swap tonight.