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Canwest Admin
12-23-2008, 04:56 PM
Deficit only temporary, Flaherty insists
Eric Beauchesne , Canwest News Service
Published: Tuesday, December 23, 2008

OTTAWA - Less than a month after projecting the government would not go into deficit, Finance Minister Jim Flaherty is now promising a plan for getting out of the red.

Flaherty's revelation that the Jan. 27 budget will contain a plan to escape what the government now admits will be a deficit next year came Tuesday, only hours before the Finance Department revealed that this year's shrinking budget surplus has almost disappeared.
Finance Minister Jim Flaherty: 'We’ll show in the budget itself how we will come out of deficit.'

The government suffered a $600-million shortfall in October, the third straight monthly deficit, leaving it only $200 million in the black seven months into the fiscal year, down from $6.1 billion a year earlier, the department reported.

"We'll show in the budget itself how we will come out of deficit," Flaherty told a news conference in Toronto, after reiterating his commitment that the slide into the red will be temporary.

"So it will be clear to Canadians that as the economy recovers, the deficit will disappear and we'll be in surplus again," he said, providing assurance to ease concerns among some that this could be the start of an extended period of deficit financing.

Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said his government may have to inject up to $30 billion in additional government spending and tax cuts to deal with the recession and stimulate the economy.

"We will ensure that spending that puts us into deficit is temporary, is for finite purposes, so that we will not be into a permanent deficit," Flaherty said at the news conference held just prior to his meeting with his newly created council of economic advisers.

While Flaherty said he has not yet decided what stimulus measures will be in the budget, he revealed the government is looking at eliminating the waiting period for the unemployed before they can collect jobless benefits.

"We haven't made any decisions . . . other than obviously there will be some stimulus . . . because the economy is weakening significantly," he said. "That is one of the items that's been brought up and that is being reviewed."

The government - in addition to admitting that it will go into a deficit - is also acknowledging that the economy is in recession, with a 0.4 per cent contraction expected in 2009. In its Nov. 29 budget update, the government projected growth of 0.3 per cent next year, as well as marginal surpluses over the coming two years.

But the latest monthly financial statement suggests that the slide towards a deficit this fiscal year was due to a rapid run-up in government spending, not a fall in revenues.

During the first seven months of the year, program spending soared by $7.8 billion, or 7.2 per cent, while revenues rose $1.2 billion, or 0.9 per cent.

"It's not a revenue problem, it's a spending problem," said Kevin Gaudet of the Canadian Taxpayers Federation, calling on the government to stimulate the economy with more tax cuts not more spending.

The increase in revenues was due to the growth in personal income taxes, offset by declines in corporate income tax and the GST, the Finance Department said. The increase in program spending, meanwhile, reflected higher payments to people and provinces and operating expenses of federal departments.

"Program spending growth has been relatively strong so far this year but began to moderate in September," the department said, adding that the growth in spending is expected to moderate even further into the fiscal year.


© Canwest News Service 2008

inline6turbo
12-23-2008, 05:01 PM
I smell bs and propaganda

HiTempguy1
12-23-2008, 05:07 PM
Uh, did I miss something? beyond.ca is part of the canada.com network? Cool!

sputnik
12-23-2008, 05:08 PM
WTF?

finboy
12-23-2008, 05:09 PM
Canwest admin, what is YOUR opinion on this subject?

Toms-SC
12-23-2008, 05:22 PM
Please keep this thread on track. Any further posts not relevant to OP will be removed.

sputnik
12-23-2008, 05:29 PM
I disagree Canwest.

I think the deficit will be permanent.

finboy
12-23-2008, 05:32 PM
Originally posted by sputnik
I disagree Canwest.

I think the deficit will be permanent.

i think the deficit is a result of the conservative government showing some concessions, as an aim to gain support from the voting base, though i would love to hear the actual opinion of the canwest admin.

Eleanor
12-23-2008, 05:34 PM
I agree, we will see a surplus again.

When is the real question.

Canwest Admin
12-23-2008, 05:42 PM
Dear finboy,

In my opinion, we as Canadians need to ensure that our governments are making reasonable and informed budget choices in today's sensitive economic climate. I am optimistic that it is within our abilities to achieve a balance between less spending and more efficient revenue generation. I think it is appropriate for us to wait and see what the proposal contains before creating too much controversy.

Thanks,
Canwest Admin

finboy
12-23-2008, 05:44 PM
touche ;)

Eleanor
12-23-2008, 05:47 PM
It isn't a bot? :eek:

1997GSR
12-23-2008, 05:50 PM
I LOVE JIM FLAHERTY

R154
12-23-2008, 06:04 PM
I dont know how I feel about this.

riceeater
12-23-2008, 06:20 PM
sounds like typical politician double-speak :drool:


question, what is the source of the article?The reason, and sorry, I dont want to come off like a douche, but i'm wondering if this section of the forum gonna slowly start getting filled with articles from canwest papers? Not that there's anything wrong with ANY of their papers, radios or tv stations, but i want to know if what i'm reading is biased... That's why most threads on here also include the link that the article is from, so people can make up their minds on their own, about how much weight they should put on what is presented... imo, it'd help if the canwest mods included links too

that said, we should welcome our new overlords to beyond!!!! :nut: WELCOME Canwest!!

googe
12-23-2008, 06:48 PM
^^

Originally posted by Canwest Admin
Eric Beauchesne , Canwest News Service
Published: Tuesday, December 23, 2008
...
© Canwest News Service 2008

its obviously an article by canwest :dunno:

they'd only post their own content, not random other websites. chances are it's on the front page of canada.com ;)

R154
12-23-2008, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by riceeater
sounds like typical politician double-speak :drool:


question, what is the source of the article?The reason, and sorry, I dont want to come off like a douche, but i'm wondering if this section of the forum gonna slowly start getting filled with articles from canwest papers? Not that there's anything wrong with ANY of their papers, radios or tv stations, but i want to know if what i'm reading is biased... That's why most threads on here also include the link that the article is from, so people can make up their minds on their own, about how much weight they should put on what is presented... imo, it'd help if the canwest mods included links too

that said, we should welcome our new overlords to beyond!!!! :nut: WELCOME Canwest!!

Ypu do remember Toma right?

revelations
12-23-2008, 08:13 PM
Originally posted by Canwest Admin
Deficit only temporary, Flaherty insists



Sure, and income taxes were a wartime measure only :nut:

Canmorite
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
Same with the GST, no?

broken_legs
12-23-2008, 11:43 PM
I think that the conservatives should not have:

a.) Killed the income trusts.
b.) Not kept their promise about re-investing capital gains tax sheltered
c.) Changed the budget in 2006 to allow 35 & 40 year mortgages, subprime and 0 down lending to happen
d.) Run a budget deficit
e.) I know this is provincial but, come out with the royalty regime and then flip flopped on it.


I like the talk coming out of Flaherty's mouth, but honestly everything that guy is doing just pisses me off. Fiscally conservative my ass.

We will maintain a budget deficit and it will grow larger.

I do like the GST cut though :D

Antonito
12-23-2008, 11:47 PM
Can't really give the government a hard time for going into deficit in a recession, that is the standard operating procedure, to provide enough stability and cash into the economy to keep things going while private industry is having to recover.

I'm glad they've come to their senses on this one. Fiscal restraint is all well and good, but the governments first job is to take care of the people, and standing on principles is not the right answer in situations like this.

How exactly they spend the money is another question and should be a source of either praise or derision depending on what they do.