The Wrestler

[xLostx]

Is there seriously no thread for this movie yet? I searched but de nada...anyhoo, very good movie! well worth a watch for sure. It's crazy what life after fame can bring to one. Kinda sad movie but it makes it even better. The ending is kinda ambiguous though, but you get the picture...

[b_t]

Fantastic movie. At the time, me and my buddies didn't really get it and thought it was a little slow, but the more I reflected on it, the better and better I thought it was. For sure in my top five movies of '08 and maybe all time..

Marisa Tomei being naked for so much of it was also a wicked bonus.

[xLostx]

Yeah it's worth watching just to see Marisa naked.

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[Jlude]

Haven't seen it yet, but read a few reviews that said it's the best performance of MR's career. I'll probably see it soon.

[torob]

I heard its propaganda like 300
Dont want to watch, but want to at same time

[black13]

Yea it was pretty good. Its like the Rocky Balboa for Wrestling. Some of the wrestling scenes were pretty brutal.

[wardpr68]

Obviously I may be a bit biased... but I thought this was the best movie I have seen in a longgggggggggggggggggg time.

It shows exactly what the business can be like... tough to get into and tough to make money and it really takes a toll on the body.

I would definitely recommend this to everyone.

The acting was top notch as well.

[BigShow]

It wasn't thaaaat good. After hearing all the rave reviews, I was probably expecting too much. It really wasn't that good.

[ragu]

Acting was good but all the true faces of wrestling I am sure everyone knows by now. Overall I think it was good only because of acting, nothing else was too great.

[Dave P]

Mickey Roucke is awesome.

Ill be def checking this one out

What theater is it playing at?

[b_t]

Originally posted by ragu
Acting was good but all the true faces of wrestling I am sure everyone knows by now. Overall I think it was good only because of acting, nothing else was too great.

I for one had no idea what they went through, and that wasn't the focus of the movie either :dunno:

[signature7]

What theater is showing this or is there anyway I can watch it online? I found a site (tv shack) but the audio quality isn't great. Sound mismatches with the actions.

[ragu]

Originally posted by b_t


I for one had no idea what they went through, and that wasn't the focus of the movie either :dunno:

I am not talking about if wrestling is fake or not. It shows us how you work to get in and how fucked up your life is because of the obsession with the sport; I think its somewhat the same as models and actors, pursuing the goal forever....

Obviously the acting was the best part but other than that I didn't find it that great, good but not the best movie of 08.

[wardpr68]

I think it will be in most theaters starting January 16th.... but don't quote me on that.

Also, Ragu, If you didn't think it was the best movie of 2008, what was?

Just wondering :dunno:

[x.staygold.x]

I actually loved this movie. One of the better ones i've seen lately.

[ragu]

Originally posted by wardpr68
I think it will be in most theaters starting January 16th.... but don't quote me on that.

Also, Ragu, If you didn't think it was the best movie of 2008, what was?

Just wondering :dunno:

slumdog millionaire!! :thumbsup:

[signature7]

How did you guys see it already? Advance screening? or Online?

[wardpr68]

advanced private.

its on the net as well though.

[03ozwhip]

i saw previews for this, and it looked pretty good. is it about a real life wrestler?

[BigMass]

just saw it... Awesome movie. It's more about life than it is about wrestling. The acting really made this movie. It's a one man show

[banned3x]

http://thepiratebay.org/torrent/4607030/The.Wrestler.DVDSCR.XviD-ORC_

[The Cosworth]

really liked it, the wife was a little confused by the ending though.

Made me sad

[01RedDX]

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[nightfx]

Used to love to watch pro wrestling ages ago, not so much anymore but this movie was very good. :thumbsup:

[signature7]

god damn he looks and sounds like dog the bounty hunter

[BigShow]

Originally posted by The Cosworth
really liked it, the wife was a little confused by the ending though.

Made me sad

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the idea was he was comitting suicide...right?

[signature7]

When he jumped over the ropes to the outside to hit Ayatollah ...That wasn't a holy shit moment, but it's great to see a movie incorporate very real aspects of wrestling culture (even have fanny packs down!), wrestling lingo ("lets take it home" ect) and wrestlers lifestyle. I could name a handful of guys that have walked down similar paths as depicted in this movie..

[wardpr68]

"lets take it home" is wrestling lingo? lol. ok.

I though the best capturing of "lingo" or wrestling in general was the backstage segment for the first show where they were going through their matches and deciding how to get heat and what to work on their opponents... that was fairly accurate.

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By him jumping off the rope the viewer really isn't supposed to know what happens... he may die... he may live... but eventually he will die since his body just can't take it anymore. Leaves you thinking about the film afterwards, which is a good strategy rather than just an obvious finish. Think about it... if he had died... everyone saw it coming. If not people would be like "pfft... lame, fairytale ending." so basically, it was a very good finish.

[signature7]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by wardpr68
[B]"lets take it home" is wrestling lingo? lol. ok.

My bad if it isn't. When wrestlers tell their stories they use that phrase a lot. I was stating that this movie is very detailed compared to the very few movies about wrestling (that is not a documentary). It makes people who have a passion for the business, appreciate it a little more than the average crowd. lol ok.

[Hakkola]

Originally posted by signature7
god damn he looks and sounds like dog the bounty hunter

I have to laugh anytime someone mentions Dog, I saw him in a casino in Vegas, he's like 5'6 and that's being generous.

[signature7]

Originally posted by Hakkola


I have to laugh anytime someone mentions Dog, I saw him in a casino in Vegas, he's like 5'6 and that's being generous.

Was Beth around? That's the size of her knockers lol.

I remember an episode of Dog where he mentioned he was short but he has a shop that modify his cowboy boots and gives him lifts lol.

[petoria]

amazing movie!

[Dave P]

Watched it last night.

Was a fantastic movie. Will be buying this one

[flipstah]

Will buy the movie when it comes out in HD.

Kinda sad the way it ended but it got me asking for more. I'm only a fan of wrestling and as mentioned, there's a lot of lingo that hardcore fans will get and shows the nitty gritty of that sport.

At one time in my life, I wanted to be a wrestler and travel the world, fight different opponents and make people happy. Kinda sucks that on the flip side, it becomes your only family.

[95teetee]

Originally posted by signature7
When he jumped over the ropes to the outside to hit Ayatollah ...That wasn't a holy shit moment, but it's great to see a movie incorporate very real aspects of wrestling culture (even have fanny packs down!), wrestling lingo ("lets take it home" ect) and wrestlers lifestyle. I could name a handful of guys that have walked down similar paths as depicted in this movie.. I just watched it-a lot of it was like watching old (and I mean real, before the WWF took it over) ECW. Especially the staple gun:D
Rourke was awesome.
except he should have told Pam that the Crue sucks:rofl:
as was the soundtrack:banghead: < should be headbang, but banging heads is what it's all about lol.

[beecue]

This movie was pretty boring .. I have seen documentary type wrestling movies already that show what they go through .. this was nothing new

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by Hakkola


I have to laugh anytime someone mentions Dog, I saw him in a casino in Vegas, he's like 5'6 and that's being generous.

5'7 according to IMDB....LOL what a beast!!

[Godfuader]

A+ for the acting....B+ for the movie. Very slow...but kept my interest the whole time.


Originally posted by wardpr68
By him jumping off the rope the viewer really isn't supposed to know what happens... he may die... he may live... but eventually he will die since his body just can't take it anymore. Leaves you thinking about the film afterwards, which is a good strategy rather than just an obvious finish. Think about it... if he had died... everyone saw it coming. If not people would be like &quot;pfft... lame, fairytale ending.&quot; so basically, it was a very good finish.[/SIZE]
Makes sense!

[Jlude]

Originally posted by Godfuader
A+ for the acting....B+ for the movie. Very slow...but kept my interest the whole time.


Makes sense!

100%

I just assumed he died.

[Gainsbarre]

Originally posted by torob
I heard its propaganda like 300
Dont want to watch, but want to at same time

A bit, but I didn't find it too bad (I’m overly sensitive to negative portrayals of people from the middle east, despite not being of middle eastern descent myself). The main villain ("The Ayatollah") is portrayed by an actual wrestler who was pretty much a jobber in WCW and WWE (Ernest Miller), but he is clearly African American, and wears a ridiculous wrestling singlet that resembles the current Iranian flag -- the whole character is an obvious play on Khosrow Vaziri's portrayal of the Iron Sheik. An Iranian flag does get used in the match, but at least it's only the flagpole that gets broken (unlike say Hulk Hogan actually tearing apart the Iraqi flag at WrestleMania VII -- very classy, but then again during his post match celebration he did use an American flag to wipe the blood from his face, so maybe he's unfamiliar with proper flag etiquette in general). Makes me wonder if they really wanted to be stuck in the 1980's they could have just as easily made the main villain a Soviet character (a la Nikolai Volkoff or Boris Zhukov) -- make it more obvious that it's a negative portrayal of an ideology rather than a people.

:rofl: I suppose as a counter to this, the polite and professional physician that has a speaking role early in the film (both the actor and character) is CLEARLY Iranian -- he couldn't look more Iranian if he tried to. So I suppose this (somewhat) offsets the negative portrayal of Iranians by the main villain.

As for the film itself, I thought it was great. Not a fan of Rouke, but I found his portrayal of a washed-up, down and out wrestler working the local indy scenes trying to recapture his former glory to be very convincing. I found the interaction between the boy and their conversation while playing that old NES game to be one of the best scenes of the film (it really captured the essence of the movie, in my opinion -- Rouke being stuck in the past while the whole world has moved on without him). Non wrestling fans should appreciate it as well, as it's only the first little bit of the film that's full of (perhaps unfamiliar) wrestling jargon.

As for the ending...
I thought it was fantastic... the ovation that he got from the crowd, the falling out with his daughter, him looking in the stands and not seeing Cassidy there anymore -- all made it abundantly clear that there is NOTHING left in his life except wrestling. I think that what was going through his mind during that final match was that "there's nothing left in my life besides wrestling -- wrestling IS my life, this is what I live for, and if this kills me, then so be it -- I've gone out doing what I love". While it isn't clear if he dies in the final scene, I think it leaves the viewer with the impression that he will kill himself through wrestling, but he wouldn't have it any other way.

[szw]

Lol it is not propaganda...

"The Ayatolla" is not the main villain in this movie....or any villain. I was going to write something snarky like "if you thought that, you didn't get the movie" but I don't think that was true after I read the rest of your post. But anyone thinking this movie uses "The Ayatolla" as some kind of pro-American propaganda is watching at a really really basic level of understanding.

[Gainsbarre]

Originally posted by szw
Lol it is not propaganda...

&quot;The Ayatolla&quot; is not the main villain in this movie....or any villain. I was going to write something snarky like &quot;if you thought that, you didn't get the movie&quot; but I don't think that was true after I read the rest of your post. But anyone thinking this movie uses &quot;The Ayatolla&quot; as some kind of pro-American propaganda is watching at a really really basic level of understanding.

Well that’s not exactly what I was getting at – if we put it that way then I'd have to go with "The Ram" as being the main villain -- Rouke's character is his own worst enemy.

"The Ayatolla" is the main heel of the film, The Ram's old arch nemesis. I wasn't thrilled about the portrayal of the main heel as a savage Iranian -- I just thought of it as going back to the same tool that is far too often used in works of fiction -- we need a "bad guy" and it'll be far more believable if we make him of middle eastern descent.

I'll go back to what I was saying earlier -- if they wanted a throwback to a 1980's feud, the main villain could have just as easily been a Soviet character -- villainize an outdated ideology rather than have a character dressed in a flag that is still in use today.

[szw]

I really don't feel that he was portrayed as a "savage iranian" at all...They are obviously playing that angle to the audience (the wrestling fans in the movie watching the fight) but not to the movie viewer. Basically they are saying "yeah this is the angle we play, laugh at the joke".

To the movie viewer he is definitely not a "bad guy".

[mac70135]

Just saw this last night, what a wicked movie. I've always been a wrestling fan since I was a kid and this really hit me hard.