Any way to move to the USA without a work Visa? [Archive] - Beyond.ca - Car Forums

Kobe

01-12-2009, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by 89coupe

Thinking about moving to Vegas? LOL

It has really been popping my mind man, life is so much cheaper out there, you can rent for 400/m it would be a fun to try out I think

malcolmk14

01-12-2009, 05:11 PM

Keep in mind that your poker winnings count as income there (online included), so you're gonna need a work visa if you plan on playing for a living.

Godfuader

01-12-2009, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Kobe

It has really been popping my mind man, life is so much cheaper out there, you can rent for 400/m it would be a fun to try out I think
$400/mth is great...if you already have a job.

Kobe

01-12-2009, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by malcolmk14
Keep in mind that your poker winnings count as income there (online included), so you're gonna need a work visa if you plan on playing for a living.

Who said anything about disclosing poker winnings? Say I go down with 20,000 for 6 months, and I do not withdrawl any funds from my poker account what is there to pay taxes on?

Zephyr

01-12-2009, 05:33 PM

Originally posted by Kobe

It has really been popping my mind man, life is so much cheaper out there, you can rent for 400/m it would be a fun to try out I think

LOL keep dreaming.

Kobe

01-12-2009, 05:40 PM

Originally posted by Zephyr

LOL keep dreaming.

I think it is possible, I have been living off online poker for the last 4 months here in Calgary now, and haven't had issues. I do not see why I wouldn't be able to do it in the states with cheaper rent...

21 Living on my own and going to school part time and doing financially well, I think it is possible?

Worst comes to worse I lose a few grand, and move back to Canada early..

Zephyr

01-12-2009, 05:46 PM

Originally posted by Kobe

I think it is possible, I have been living off online poker for the last 4 months here in Calgary now, and haven't had issues. I do not see why I wouldn't be able to do it in the states with cheaper rent...

21 Living on my own and going to school part time and doing financially well, I think it is possible?

Worst comes to worse I lose a few grand, and move back to Canada early..

There's no way for you to stay here without a student visa or work visa. They are on that stuff like crazy now due to lack of jobs and high competition for anything available. Plus how would you sign a lease without having a visa here?

$400 is a dream number too. With people losing their houses, renting has gone up.

Kobe

01-12-2009, 06:14 PM

Originally posted by Zephyr

There's no way for you to stay here without a student visa or work visa. They are on that stuff like crazy now due to lack of jobs and high competition for anything available. Plus how would you sign a lease without having a visa here?

$400 is a dream number too. With people losing their houses, renting has gone up.

Maybe not without a student work work visa that was always my guess as well.

But I was just in Vegas less then a week ago, and i saw a bunch of places for rent for 350 - 450, and a couple of the cab drivers I also talked to said they rented for that price/month so I think it is possible.. Even if rent was 700/m I would like to be able to try this out if there was a way of me being able to stay for 5-6 months without a work/ student visa...

rage2

01-12-2009, 06:18 PM

Originally posted by Kobe
Who said anything about disclosing poker winnings?
In Canada if you cheat on taxes, you get fined and it's just $.

In the US if you cheat on taxes, you get fined, pay, get a criminal record, and go to jail too. The IRS doesn't fuck around.

Also, if you're playing at Casinos, they keep track of you and automatically deduct your "earnings" of taxes owed. But that's for bigger winners, not sure how much you rake in playing poker.

rage2

01-12-2009, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by Zephyr
Plus how would you sign a lease without having a visa here?
Hang out with some mexicans for a few days, I'm sure they can tell him exactly how they do it lol.

Kobe

01-12-2009, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by rage2

In Canada if you cheat on taxes, you get fined and it's just $.

In the US if you cheat on taxes, you get fined, pay, get a criminal record, and go to jail too. The IRS doesn't fuck around.

Also, if you're playing at Casinos, they keep track of you and automatically deduct your "earnings" of taxes owed. But that's for bigger winners, not sure how much you rake in playing poker.

In Canada you will only get taxes on poker if it is your primary source of income, if it is a side of income they will not tax you...

I am aware of the issues winnings in poker, in Vegas they give out player cards, and they are good at most casinos, and I'm sure that is used for some sort of tax purpose...

Hahaha I should def go 2 Mexico first and ask them how I can get it done
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

Toma

01-12-2009, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by Xtrema
If you don't work or conduct business, you get 6 months within 1 calendar year.

If you collect money in anyway, you'll need a Visa.

Are you allowed to start a business?

johnboy27

01-13-2009, 12:37 AM

Originally posted by Kobe

In Canada you will only get taxes on poker if it is your primary source of income, if it is a side of income they will not tax you...

I am aware of the issues winnings in poker, in Vegas they give out player cards, and they are good at most casinos, and I'm sure that is used for some sort of tax purpose...

Hahaha I should def go 2 Mexico first and ask them how I can get it done
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
In the US any type of lottery( or poker) winning is taxable. Even if you win a car you have to pay the taxes before you collect your new car. The casino's will deduct your taxes from your winnings. If you stay less than 6 months you may be able to come back to Canada and then reclaim the tax money you have paid while you were there. I saw a commercial the other day for Canadians who have paid taxes on winnings in the US, basically said you can collect them after you come back to Canada.

Kobe

01-13-2009, 12:39 AM

Originally posted by johnboy27

In the US any type of lottery( or poker) winning is taxable. Even if you win a car you have to pay the taxes before you collect your new car. The casino's will deduct your taxes from your winnings. If you stay less than 6 months you may be able to come back to Canada and then reclaim the tax money you have paid while you were there. I saw a commercial the other day for Canadians who have paid taxes on winnings in the US, basically said you can collect them after you come back to Canada.

Let me clearify this, I will be playing online and not live...

Zephyr

01-13-2009, 01:01 AM

Originally posted by Kobe

Let me clearify this, I will be playing online and not live...

Online gambling for real money is banned in the states... though there are a few loopholes, it's generally banned.

sexualbanana

01-13-2009, 01:26 AM

The CBP guys really aren't going to like it when you show up at their counter with no work visa and no stated address where you're going to be staying.

sexualbanana

01-13-2009, 01:27 AM

And BTW, on my way for my first summer in LA, the CBP guys wouldn't clear me to take a volunteer job without a visa.

johnboy27

01-13-2009, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by Kobe

Let me clearify this, I will be playing online and not live...
Why move to Vegas then? There are lots of places in Canada to move where it is cheap to live and you have no hassles of moving to another country .

alloroc

01-13-2009, 03:01 PM

This is interesting and you may want to ask immigration.

If you could get a Visa you would still be under the Canadian tax regime as you are a Canadian citizen and not a US citizen so you do not have to worry about claiming winnings.

You would be making a living without taking away someone else's job.

Your earnings would now be spent in the USA in lieu of in Canada booting the US economy.

Why wouldn't they want you?

alloroc

01-13-2009, 03:03 PM

Originally posted by johnboy27

Why move to Vegas then? There are lots of places in Canada to move where it is cheap to live and you have no hassles of moving to another country .

He is making a living by gambling. Why do you think he wants go move to vegas (or Henderson)

johnboy27

01-13-2009, 03:54 PM

Originally posted by alloroc

He is making a living by gambling. Why do you think he wants go move to vegas (or Henderson)
But he plans to do all his gambling online, why move to Vegas to do online gambling?

chkolny541

01-13-2009, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by johnboy27

But he plans to do all his gambling online, why move to Vegas to do online gambling?

my thoughts exactly

ryder_23

01-13-2009, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by johnboy27

But he plans to do all his gambling online, why move to Vegas to do online gambling?

You not read the thread? He wants to live down there since hes found fairly cheap places to live, and just cause hes gambling online, doesn't mean he wont enjoy the finer parts of vegas. He's going to live the dream, let him live it.

Zephyr

01-13-2009, 05:31 PM

Remember, online gambling in the states is illegal if it is gambling with anything of monetary value.

Kobe

01-13-2009, 06:34 PM

Originally posted by ryder_23

You not read the thread? He wants to live down there since hes found fairly cheap places to live, and just cause hes gambling online, doesn't mean he wont enjoy the finer parts of vegas. He's going to live the dream, let him live it.

Thank you homie... haha

Originally posted by Zephyr
Remember, online gambling in the states is illegal if it is gambling with anything of monetary value.

I realize this, and I know it is very hard to deposit and withdrawal funds in the US, the new bill was suppose to state that there would be no US banks that would be able 2 accept any cheques from online gaming sites, but it was not passed...