Nba '03-'04

[pinoyhero]

I hope the rap's do better this year than last, other than last night, so far so good. But we'll see if Vince stays healthy.

[yankeefan]

SA vs Suns both teams shot under 30%
Minnesota had their franchise low against the NEts.

Defense is always ahead of the offense early in the year. It will catch up this week and will see alot better basketball accross the board. I know what your saying though watching these teams shoot so bad is tough.

[mo_virgin]

Man Toronto sucks... so does Vince, they should have never chose him to be the Franchise player.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by mo_virgin
Man Toronto sucks... so does Vince, they should have never chose him to be the Franchise player.

Who would you have chosen that they could get their hands on?

[max_boost]

I'm still wondering what things would be like had T-Mac stayed in T.O and Stephon Marbury never left Minny......

[accordboi_02]

Originally posted by max_boost
I'm still wondering what things would be like had T-Mac stayed in T.O and Stephon Marbury never left Minny......

Kobe actually said it best about T-Mac... he said that if T-Mac had stayed in T.O. then the Lakers would never have been three-peat champs...

And Marbury just didn't fit in Minny... he wanted the ball too much, and there was no way K.G. was going to give it up to him.

[Ajay]

Marbury is best where he's at. Phoenix is a good team for him...he's got Stoudamire and Marion to dish to and he's free to do his thing as well.

If T-Mac had stayed in Toronto the Raptors in my opinion would be in the top three in the East FOR SURE. But I'm glad McGrady's doing his thing in Orlando....if Grant Hill ever get's healthy again they might do better and better. The Magic are eventually gonna get sick of waiting for Hill to have a healthy season and deal him....and since he's Hill they'de probably get good shit in return.

That off season when Duncan was a free agent and was considering signing with Orlando....damn that woulda been sweet. Woulda been odd to see him in a Magic jersey though.

[mo_virgin]

Originally posted by pinoyhero


Who would you have chosen that they could get their hands on?

I was gonna say Tmac bro... seems everyone has already said it for me

[yankeefan]

They couldnt get their hands on Tmac because he didnt wanna play there=p, he was a freeagent and he left via sign and trade deal to orlando.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by yankeefan
They couldnt get their hands on Tmac because he didnt wanna play there=p, he was a freeagent and he left via sign and trade deal to orlando.

Thank you for saying it. I'm sick of people saying things like that. What if a team could have kept every single good player they ever had on their roster?

[accordboi_02]

Lakers just got SPANKED by New Orleans last night!!!

Go Hornets!!!!!!
:clap: :clap:

Also, Raps set a new record for futility for scoring points... maybe they should hook up with the Flames and talk about how easy it is to win without scoring!!!!
Just pathetic.

[accordboi_02]

Also forgot to mention:
LeBron's team: 0-6.
Carmello's team: 3-3.

I think rookie of the year is more than how many PPG they get... at least Carmello is helping his team win.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by accordboi_02
Lakers just got SPANKED by New Orleans last night!!!

Go Hornets!!!!!!
:clap: :clap:

Also, Raps set a new record for futility for scoring points... maybe they should hook up with the Flames and talk about how easy it is to win without scoring!!!!
Just pathetic.

Yeah too bad to see the unbeaten streak end so quick, it was fun while it lasted though. And yes the Rap's do have a serious offensive problem.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by accordboi_02
Also forgot to mention:
LeBron's team: 0-6.
Carmello's team: 3-3.

I think rookie of the year is more than how many PPG they get... at least Carmello is helping his team win.

Your right the Rookie award is more than just a PPG thing but I still don't think that Carmello has proven to be the best rookie just yet.

[yankeefan]

best thing that could happen to the cavs is to get the first pick next year and get Okafor. They will be a championship caliber team in 3 years if they can get him.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by yankeefan
best thing that could happen to the cavs is to get the first pick next year and get Okafor. They will be a championship caliber team in 3 years if they can get him.

Hmm.. I think they will be better but I have a tough time thinking that okafor and james are as good as some of the other duos (or quads) in the league right now.

[yankeefan]

Didnt say it would happen right away=p, it would take 3 years after they drafted okafor for them to make a run. Would be james 5th season and Okafors 4th season. If youve seen Okafor play, hes that good. And if you havent seen him play think Ben Wallace with an offensive game. Best player in college by far this upcoming year. Hes a beast. He will be the best center to come into the league since Shaq when he gets drafted. Type of player you build championships around.

With him can trade Davis the heck out of there, and would have james,miles,okafor as a very good trio. In the east they would challenge for the playoffs within no time.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by yankeefan
Didnt say it would happen right away=p, it would take 3 years after they drafted okafor for them to make a run. Would be james 5th season and Okafors 4th season. If youve seen Okafor play, hes that good. And if you havent seen him play think Ben Wallace with an offensive game. Best player in college by far this upcoming year. Hes a beast. He will be the best center to come into the league since Shaq when he gets drafted. Type of player you build championships around.

With him can trade Davis the heck out of there, and would have james,miles,okafor as a very good trio. In the east they would challenge for the playoffs within no time.

Haven't seen a whole ton of okafor but from what I have seen I'm impresssed. I guess only time will tell.

[TheXplosion]

You guys are simply forgeting about the Old School Baller like WILT Chamberlain. Chamberlain won both Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player, leading the league in scoring (37.6) and rebounding (27.0). Chamberlain scored 50 or more points in seven times. Tell me any rookie that try to compare to Wilt.


Originally posted by yankeefan
Allen Iverson 23.5ppg 7.5apg 4.1rpg 2.1spg
Tim Duncan 21.1ppg 11.9rpg 2.5bpg
Shaquille Oneal 23.4ppg 13.9rpg 3.5bpg
Michael Jordan 28.2ppg 6.5rpg 5.9apg 2.39spg

If those 4 arent enough ill come up with more. But those are examples of better 'rookies'. ANd we are talking about basketball ability not Star power or hype.

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by TheXplosion
You guys are simply forgeting about the Old School Baller like WILT Chamberlain. Chamberlain won both Rookie of the Year and Most Valuable Player, leading the league in scoring (37.6) and rebounding (27.0). Chamberlain scored 50 or more points in seven times. Tell me any rookie that try to compare to Wilt.



Your right Wilt the Stilt was ans is the best rookie of all time.

[TheXplosion]

I know this has nothign to do with this post but id like everyone to see what Wilt did, he simply changed the game, if it wasnt for him there would be no 3sec in the key and all these other rules. They made these rules to contain Chamberlain....

NBA Rookie of the Year (1960)

NBA Most Valuable Player (1960, 1966, 1967, 1968)

All-NBA First Team (1960-62, 1964-68)

All-NBA Second Team (1963, 1965, 1972)

NBA All-Defensive First Team (1972, 1973)

NBA Finals MVP (1972)
Holds the NBA Finals record for most rebounds (41, April 5, 1967 vs. Boston)

Scored 53 points as a rookie against Syracuse (March 14, 1960)

NBA All-Star Game MVP (1960), after scoring 23 points with 25 rebounds

Thirteen-time NBA All-Star (1960-69, 1971-73)

Holds the career All-Star Game record for most rebounds (197)

Holds the single-game All-Star record for most points (42) in 1962

NBA championships with the Philadelphia 76ers (1967) and Los Angeles Lakers (1972)

Scored 31,419 points (30.1 ppg) in 1,045 pro games, best in the league when he retired; currently second all-time behind
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

Led the NBA in scoring seven straight years (1960-66), including a career-high 50.4 ppg in 1962

Holds single game record for points in one game (100, March 2, 1962) against the New York Knicks in Hershey, PA

Scored 78 points against Los Angeles in three overtimes (Dec. 8, 1961)

Scored 73 points vs. Chicago (Jan. 13, 1962)

Scored 72 points against Los Angeles (Nov. 3, 1962)

Scored 50 or more points 118 times

Scored 50 or more points 45 times in the 1961-62 season, including seven consecutively (Dec. 16-29, 1961)

Scored 40 points or more 271 times

Scored 40 or more points 63 times in the 1961-62 season; 52 times in the 1962-63 season

Scored 40 or more points 14 straight times (Dec. 8-30, 1961)

Scored 30 or more points 65 straight times (Nov. 4, 1961 - Feb. 22, 1962); had a 31-game and a 25-game 30-point streak

Holds single-game record for most points by a rookie (58, Jan. 25, 1960 vs. the Detroit Pistons)

Made 35 consecutive shots (Feb. 17-28, 1967)

Went 18 of 18 from the field against the Baltimore Bullets (Feb. 24, 1967)

Led the league in field goal percentage nine times (1961, 1963, 1965-69, 1972)

Holds record for most free throws attempted (11,862)

Grabbed 23,924 rebounds (22.9 rpg), best in history in both number and per game average

Holds seasonal records for most minutes (3,338, 41.7 mpg), most points (4,029), points per game (50.4), field goals made (1,597) and field goals attempted (3,159), all in 1962

Holds the rookie record for most points (2,707, 37.6 ppg) and rebounds (1,941, 27.0 rpg) in 1960

Led the league in rebounding 11 times (1960-63, 1966-69, 1971-73)

Led the league in minutes seven times (1961-64, 1966-68)

In the 1968 season, averaged 24.3 ppg, 23.8 rpg and 8.3 assists per game

NBA 35th Anniversary All-Time Team (1980)

NBA 50th Anniversary All-Time Team (1996)

Ranks second all-time in scoring with 31,419 points (30.1 ppg)

Ranks second all-time in rebounding 23,924 rebounds (22.9 rpg)

[pinoyhero]

Gross list.

On another topic I finally had my draft for Yahoo fantasy ball and it doesn't look good, Shaq and Redd are my only good players.

[TheXplosion]

who are the others.

[yankeefan]

thexplosion, you left out his most impressive stat, 20,000 ladies strong. He was the man in more ways then one =D

[TheXplosion]

:D lol, theres one thing allot or all ppl dont knwo about Wilt is that before basketball he was a volleyplayer/coach/president of the iva(international volleyball assoiacation) he was pretty good too. And he was a part of the Harlem Globe Trotters for 1 year in 58-59 and then after that he went into the NBA .

What can i say hes a :eek:

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by yankeefan
thexplosion, you left out his most impressive stat, 20,000 ladies strong. He was the man in more ways then one =D

Going through the math its almost impossible, but if he did....

[PGTze]

Originally posted by yankeefan
thexplosion, you left out his most impressive stat, 20,000 ladies strong. He was the man in more ways then one =D

Ha, I was gonna say that... but yeah pinoyhero is right, that's impossible... I think :dunno:

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by PGTze


Ha, I was gonna say that... but yeah pinoyhero is right, that's impossible... I think :dunno:

Consider this, if he was going at it for ~35 years he would have had to had on average 1.5 women per day every single day. Possible, maybe but not likely.

[max_boost]

It is possible man, he said be bagged at least 1 different girl every night.....imagine those weekends!! haha

The dude is a pimp! lol

[pinoyhero]

Originally posted by max_boost
It is possible man, he said be bagged at least 1 different girl every night.....imagine those weekends!! haha

The dude is a pimp! lol

I bet he has like 500 children h doesn't know about.

[mo_virgin]

100 points? who the hell was everybody on the opposing team? pinoyhero? hahah peace bro peace j/k