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rumeo

01-21-2009, 11:45 AM

Starting January 23rd - February 11th, The Dark Knight will be re-released in Imax at select Cineplex Odeon theatres for only $9.95, and scene members get 2x the points.

BigMass

01-21-2009, 11:49 AM

The most over rated piece of shit in the entire history of the human race comes to Imax? Cool

gen2teggy

01-21-2009, 11:50 AM

:werd:
i did not like that movie

LadyLuck

01-21-2009, 11:52 AM

Im curious to see how many people will actually go and spend money to see it again in theatres, considering how many DVDs they sold over christmas.

I think its gonna bomb at the box office, we're pretty much over it by now.

RickDaTuner

01-21-2009, 11:56 AM

DLDP or bust, when the hell is calgary Going to get with the times, and move on to High deff theater.

Jeremiah

01-21-2009, 12:02 PM

You forget how many fucking nerds there are in the city.

Also anyone who didnt get a chance to see it the first time in Imax will probably like to see what all the fuss is about.

The movie had i think 4 or 5 scenes shot with an imax camera and it looked excellent.

beecue

01-21-2009, 12:55 PM

I'm going again with a few people that haven't watched it in Imax yet .. and it's not full price so why not :thumbsup:

Xtrema

01-21-2009, 06:06 PM

Those IMAX scenes on a 60" screen doesn't do them justice, let alone smaller set.

I missed it the 1st round, may go for it this round.

eb0i

01-21-2009, 06:20 PM

I thought it was rather lame on IMAX since there were only a few scenes that were in actual IMAX.

black13

01-21-2009, 06:36 PM

If you haven't seen it in Imax before then its definitely worth it.

This is actually the first movie to shoot movie scenes with Imax camera's so the 6 scenes in the movie look very very good on the big screen. It would've been pointless to shoot the whole thing in Imax since indoor scenes don't really show the effect as good.

beecue

01-21-2009, 06:59 PM

^^^ :werd: .. it's lame that all those other movies that play on Imax screens don't even use Imax cameras

jsn

01-22-2009, 01:41 AM

they're just trying to milk as much money out of this movie as they can now.

beecue

01-22-2009, 01:45 AM

Not really .. it's only being released in 250 Imax screens :dunno:

sl888

01-22-2009, 10:02 AM

Originally posted by jsn
they're just trying to milk as much money out of this movie as they can now.
I thought so it was in time for the Oscars

em2ab

01-22-2009, 10:36 AM

I might go see it for the third time. The story's no better than any other Batman movie but the acting really was exceptional.

Which scenes were shot in IMAX?

Tik-Tok

01-22-2009, 10:45 AM

Originally posted by BigMass
The most over rated piece of shit in the entire history of the human race comes to Imax? Cool

Originally posted by gen2teggy
:werd:
i did not like that movie

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't enjoy it. To me, the movie was made for people with ADHD. 75% of the scenes were half as long as they should have been, just so they'd have time for the ultra long action scene (car chase).

ie: WTF happened after Batman jumped out the window to save Rachael? He didn't bother going back to find the Joker? And the joker just left the party, just like that? :thumbsdow

r0g3r

01-22-2009, 07:19 PM

nightfx

01-22-2009, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by r0g3r

LoL holy shit thats a good point! Haha well I liked the movie. I am gonna agree, the story was meh but I think I liked the movie most cuz of the Joker. Heath ledger's acting was exceptional. I actually wanted to see it only cuz of the joker, really. Quite the intriguing character.

I think they should've had more focus on him, kinda find out what his story was before he became the maniac.
:werd: I couldn't even watch it through the second time cause I got so bored, the only entertaining parts were with the joker.

BigMass

01-23-2009, 12:34 AM

Originally posted by Tik-Tok

Glad I'm not the only one who didn't enjoy it. To me, the movie was made for people with ADHD. 75% of the scenes were half as long as they should have been, just so they'd have time for the ultra long action scene (car chase).

ie: WTF happened after Batman jumped out the window to save Rachael? He didn't bother going back to find the Joker? And the joker just left the party, just like that? :thumbsdow

I watched once in theater then again for laughs on PPV so me and my friend could tear it apart. The second time we couldn’t go 1 min without commenting on something idiotic in the movie. I could seriously write a 30 page report on what was wrong with that movie. Then you have morons on IMDB having debates on what is the greatest movie of all time. Godfather or TDK. ROFL seriously. As generations pass humans are getting dumber and dumber. Soon we’re all going to end up like in Idiocracy where the hit movie is just a 2 hour montage of non stop explosions.

I'll say it now, the first Tim Burton Batman blew these new ones away on all levels. And fuck everyone. Jack Nicolson was a better joker than Heath Ledge. Oops, did I just commit blasphemy?

LongCity

01-23-2009, 01:03 AM

Originally posted by r0g3r

LoL holy shit thats a good point! Haha well I liked the movie. I am gonna agree, the story was meh but I think I liked the movie most cuz of the Joker. Heath ledger's acting was exceptional. I actually wanted to see it only cuz of the joker, really. Quite the intriguing character.

I think they should've had more focus on him, kinda find out what his story was before he became the maniac.

The thing is that there is no concrete story on his life before him becoming "The Joker". Like how he has multiple stories to explain his scars.

rumeo

01-23-2009, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by BigMass

I watched once in theater then again for laughs on PPV so me and my friend could tear it apart. The second time we couldn’t go 1 min without commenting on something idiotic in the movie. I could seriously write a 30 page report on what was wrong with that movie. Then you have morons on IMDB having debates on what is the greatest movie of all time. Godfather or TDK. ROFL seriously. As generations pass humans are getting dumber and dumber. Soon we’re all going to end up like in Idiocracy where the hit movie is just a 2 hour montage of non stop explosions.

I'll say it now, the first Tim Burton Batman blew these new ones away on all levels. And fuck everyone. Jack Nicolson was a better joker than Heath Ledge. Oops, did I just commit blasphemy?

I would like to hear the 30 page report. I'm too lazy to go watch it the second time to point out all the stupid stuff

Tik-Tok

01-23-2009, 09:32 PM

Originally posted by rumeo

I would like to hear the 30 page report. I'm too lazy to go watch it the second time to point out all the stupid stuff

Like how he jumped out of a 30 story skyscraper, and landed with a joke, but then fell 2 stories and nearly broke his back?

Hakkola

01-23-2009, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by Tik-Tok

Like how he jumped out of a 30 story skyscraper, and landed with a joke, but then fell 2 stories and nearly broke his back?

Which 30 story skyscraper, what fall, who?

The only parts which I thought were stupid were when he gets picked up by the plane, he would be torn in half by the sudden acceleration, and the stupid spin off of the wall in his bike.

Joker walking out of the building I believe, guy with lots of guns and dirt on everyone it seems, plus multiple exits etc... They can't show everything or the movie would be a week long.

I'm curious what these other problems were, usually I notice them, and I've watched the film several times.

koopkoop2

01-23-2009, 10:35 PM

Originally posted by Hakkola

Which 30 story skyscraper, what fall, who?

The only parts which I thought were stupid were when he gets picked up by the plane, he would be torn in half by the sudden acceleration, and the stupid spin off of the wall in his bike.

Joker walking out of the building I believe, guy with lots of guns and dirt on everyone it seems, plus multiple exits etc... They can't show everything or the movie would be a week long.

I'm curious what these other problems were, usually I notice them, and I've watched the film several times.

The skyhook is real.

Hakkola

01-23-2009, 10:48 PM

Originally posted by koopkoop2

The skyhook is real.

I don't doubt it, you could pick up crates etc. that way but a plane that size must be travelling at around 200mph, minimum to stay in the air, no way you could pick up a stationary person at that speed without killing them.

pinoyhero

01-23-2009, 10:49 PM

I liked the movie but am not about to argue with those who didn't, to each their own. What's the point of this thread though?

Tik-Tok

01-23-2009, 11:26 PM

Originally posted by Hakkola

Which 30 story skyscraper, what fall, who?

When he jumped after Rachael, it was probably 30-50 stories high, and later when he fell beside two-face, it was only 2 stories high.

Hakkola

01-23-2009, 11:36 PM

Originally posted by Tik-Tok

When he jumped after Rachael, it was probably 30-50 stories high, and later when he fell beside two-face, it was only 2 stories high.

Probably? Maybe. Could have something to do with the cape, if he opened it to glide before they hit.

I still don't believe two-face died from that fall, you never see a body at the funeral. In one of the comics that the dark knight drew from Dent get's help and becomes normal, or at least seems like it.

I have to watch the movie again to see about the first fall.

MintRacer

01-23-2009, 11:41 PM

CKY

01-24-2009, 01:19 PM

anybody know exactly which scenes in the movie were filmed with imax lens?

black13

01-24-2009, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by BigMass

I watched once in theater then again for laughs on PPV so me and my friend could tear it apart. The second time we couldn’t go 1 min without commenting on something idiotic in the movie. I could seriously write a 30 page report on what was wrong with that movie. Then you have morons on IMDB having debates on what is the greatest movie of all time. Godfather or TDK. ROFL seriously. As generations pass humans are getting dumber and dumber. Soon we’re all going to end up like in Idiocracy where the hit movie is just a 2 hour montage of non stop explosions.

I'll say it now, the first Tim Burton Batman blew these new ones away on all levels. And fuck everyone. Jack Nicolson was a better joker than Heath Ledge. Oops, did I just commit blasphemy?

Oh good god, yea Jack Nicolson raiding Gothem city to Prince music really made him scary.
I just watched the original a week ago to see how it has held up and its like watching a saturday morning cartoon and while kids might enjoy that more, TDK is the real gritty batman where he throws people off balconies and has a realistic plot.

And the scene where he falls to save racheal, he actually uses a grapple gun but its not clearly shown. It's written in the script.

BigMass

01-24-2009, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by black13

Oh good god, yea Jack Nicolson raiding Gothem city to Prince music really made him scary.
I just watched the original a week ago to see how it has held up and its like watching a saturday morning cartoon and while kids might enjoy that more, TDK is the real gritty batman where he throws people off balconies and has a realistic plot.

And the scene where he falls to save racheal, he actually uses a grapple gun but its not clearly shown. It's written in the script.

The original Batman felt like a superhero comic book. It was fun and entertaining. The new Batman wasn't gritty, it was just plain stupid. There was nothing "realistic" about it. I could punch way more holes in TDK than the original Batman. When you try and portray something as "realistic" you're opening yourself up to a lot more scrutiny.

The original Batman had one thing the new ones don't. Character development and style. Both Batman and the Joker were far more interesting characters in the original than the one dimensional plot devices they portrayed in TDK

Hakkola

01-24-2009, 02:10 PM

Akagi Redsuns

01-24-2009, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by BigMass

I watched once in theater then again for laughs on PPV so me and my friend could tear it apart. The second time we couldn’t go 1 min without commenting on something idiotic in the movie. I could seriously write a 30 page report on what was wrong with that movie. Then you have morons on IMDB having debates on what is the greatest movie of all time. Godfather or TDK. ROFL seriously. As generations pass humans are getting dumber and dumber. Soon we’re all going to end up like in Idiocracy where the hit movie is just a 2 hour montage of non stop explosions.

I'll say it now, the first Tim Burton Batman blew these new ones away on all levels. And fuck everyone. Jack Nicolson was a better joker than Heath Ledge. Oops, did I just commit blasphemy?

Maybe you guys should watch the Tim Burton Batman and see how long of a "report" you can do. If you are basing it on realism and idiocy, the original had it in spades but I'm sure with your strong bias you will find nothing to complain about.

I also find it amusing that you hated the movie so much, you actually watched it again on PPV. I watched plenty of movies I despise and you won't find me wasting my time and money to watch it again.

BigMass

01-24-2009, 02:59 PM

BigMass

01-24-2009, 03:01 PM

This is just off the top of my head. I didn't bother going through it with a piece of paper and analyzing everything. This is just what i remember of a movie that i try and forget because it sucked so much. In a year or so i'm sure i'll have forgotten everything about this movie since it was so pointless.

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Batman and Joker appear and disappear from scenes as needed by the script. There is no flow to the story. Random part of town *enter joker*… How he got there? Nobody knows. *exit joker into the shadows* How he gets out, nobody knows…. Ok we need Batman in this scene. *enter batman*. How he got there, how he knew to be there, nobody knows. It’s just idiotic. The biggest example of this is at the party that Bruce Wayne holds.

Gordon death plot idiocy. The random events that needed to occur for Gordon to jump infront and get shot and fake his own death was just laughable. In the end that entire story was just pointless and accomplished nothing. You could have eliminated that entire plot element.

Joker wiring up ½ of gotham city with explosives. The Joker manages to pull off a conspiracy larger than 911. Wiring up a Hospital, 2 buildings and 2 boats with about 1000000000 tons of explosives. Where did he get them from? How did he rig them up? Nobody knows. How he found the crew of demo experts to be able to put this together? Who knows.

Harvey Dent is escorted by a professional SWAT team that can’t figure out that if the planned route is blocked off to “stop and analyze a new safer route with helicopter access”. They just randomly fell into a trap that a mouse wouldn’t fall for. The whole point of the helicopter is lost by travelling through a tunnel system. Nobody with an IQ over 70 would fall for a stupid trap like that.

When the Joker pulls up along side Harvey’s truck what would you do if you were SWAT? Stop the truck, get out, blow the Joker the fuck up. But no, these guys match speed and keep driving and let the Joker fuck them up. Like when a car is trying to run you over the road you just keep driving at the same speed it does? No you’d hit the brakes. Totally idiotic.

Batman extradites that Chinese guy through the most ridiculously complicated plan imaginable. If one factor out of 1000000 went wrong, that plan would have failed. Oh wait, the script calls for actions, so action we get. Turn off your brain.

The skyhook not only was idiotic, but obviously China would allow some random, cargo plane airspace access 100m above a city. That plane would have been shot down by Jets before it even got close.

The cell phone sonar, lol ok. Not to mention how they take a totally stupid idea like that and go Transporter 2 on us in the end where the entire city is mapped out using everyone’s cell phones.

Batman using devices, equipment and technology that would take a team of scientists years to develop and a team of engineers years to construct. But nobody spills the beans?

Batman using equipment that obviously only a super rich person or a person in power could have access too. It wouldn’t be too hard to narrow down the suspects.

Joker being an obvious psychopath continually killing his henchmen always has people working for him. How do these people willingly follow him? How do they get paid?

All of Harvey Dents rage and anger comes from the death of Rachael, however he lets the killer go willingly (The Joker) and ends up killing innocent people without a second thought. He was willing to kill Gordon’s kid but would not shoot the joker. Ok w/e. I guess the script called for it.

Christian Bale is a great actor. However, I feel really bad about his career being pigeon holed now into these blockbuster movies that have zero acting requirements. Reminiscent of how good actors can look downright pathetic in the new Star Wars movies, this is no exception. Throughout the movie, when he talks, he sounds like he has a cock stuck down his throat.

Heath Ledger is a good actor, but this role is nothing special. The lack of character development and one dimensional acting don’t garner any emotion towards the Joker. You don’t love him or hate him, he’s just an inanimate plot device. Where did the Joker come from? What’s his motivation? Where is he planning on going? He’s just a token inconsequential bad guy.

That idiot that is about to spill the beans decides it’s a bad idea because Batman is going to do what? Kill him? If he goes public with that information, anything bad that happens to him will automatically be attributed to Bruce Wayne. Going public basically ensures his safety. I don’t see how that threat that Morgan Freeman made held any water.

Bad guys have all their money in Cash with some random Chinese guy. Ok, I guess to the mob, money isn’t just numbers inputted into a computer just like it is for the majority of the population. It’s actually ALL physical cash that can be stolen and burnt.

Joker spends 2 weeks piling up a mountain of cash into a nice pile in the middle of nowhere so it “looks cool”. Then burns it to make a point?

Anything batman needs *bam it’s there*. Need a new underground batcave that would cost 500 million, take 5 years to build with 5000 workers? No problem. Hit a button and it magically appears.

Batman has 100 inefficient ways of killing people with bladed gadgets. His scientists should introduce him to the new technology of “bullets”

The Moral dilemma of the boats blowing up. If the choice comes down between 2 people that either one of them dies or they both die, that is no choice. That’s just a bad plot element meant to make some sort of idiotic and pointless sociological statement about the goodness of man. Ok whatever works for you.

The Rachael and Harvey dilemma. He saves him, she dies. I’d care if I didn’t feel like Rachael acted like a bitch her entire screen time. I felt no sympathy for her dying. Bad script writing again. Then I’m supposed to understand how Harvey goes from a fairly sane person to a total nut job because of this one event.

The scene at the start of the movie with the scarecrow was entirely pointless and confusing. Batman kills 100 henchmen but lets the leaders go because they might be useful in the movie sequal?

The way the Joker robs the bank at the start set the tone for the entire movie. Stupid, idiotic, pointless and insulting. He kills the people that work for him why? So people go “ahh he’s the Joker. He’s the BAD GUY” He kills people. Ok whatever. That’s the extent of the Joker’s character development. He kills random people for no reason. Ooooo scary.

*EDIT* If i actually sat down and watched the movie again i could probably come up with a list twice as long. I just don't care enough.

beecue

01-25-2009, 02:45 AM

:drool: Just watched it in Imax again without having to wait hours in line .. I will never get bored of this movie

PureDeXteritY

01-25-2009, 02:33 PM

Originally posted by Akagi Redsuns

Maybe you guys should watch the Tim Burton Batman and see how long of a "report" you can do. If you are basing it on realism and idiocy, the original had it in spades but I'm sure with your strong bias you will find nothing to complain about.

I also find it amusing that you hated the movie so much, you actually watched it again on PPV. I watched plenty of movies I despise and you won't find me wasting my time and money to watch it again.

Originally posted by Hakkola

Agreed, I watched it over xmas and it sucked, the only thing that was cool was Joker, "Ever dance with the devil in the pale moonlight?" Breaking through the clouds in the batwing and the shitty fight sequences and bad acting etc made the movie a joke. Strange how lame it was, considering how dark the Batman graphic novels were at the time.

Originally posted by black13

Oh good god, yea Jack Nicolson raiding Gothem city to Prince music really made him scary.
I just watched the original a week ago to see how it has held up and its like watching a saturday morning cartoon and while kids might enjoy that more, TDK is the real gritty batman where he throws people off balconies and has a realistic plot.

And the scene where he falls to save racheal, he actually uses a grapple gun but its not clearly shown. It's written in the script.

I'm gonna have to agree with these three quotes here.
Look, if poking holes into movies is what you like to do then hey that's cool. Personally though I see tons of flaws in a lot of freakin movies out there, sometimes...just sometimes you have to fuckin sit back and enjoy the movie.

Ever watch WANTED? lol that movie was fuckin idiotic if you really think about it, but I just let myself sit back and enjoyed that movie.

Personally I'm going to have to say that TDK was a fantastic movie.

Just wondering though, are you even a Batman fan?
cause a few of your complaints about TDK seems to be about Batman himself. All the batman movies have a "500 million dollar batcave" and High tech gadgets that scientists must of spent years on.

PureDeXteritY

01-25-2009, 02:39 PM

Like pinoyhero said, "to each their own"
but as far as being able to poke more holes in The Dark Knight than the Original Batman?
I really really have to say
Are...You...Fucking...Kidding...Me?

EDIT:
I'm not trying to start another retarded internet debate, I just thought I'd put my 2 cents in. So if you feel you have to come back at what I just said about the original batman you can save your time.
Everyone's intitled to their opinion, you didn't like TDK? cool I respect that.
but I did, and at nearly 1 billion in box office, so did a lot of other people.

koopkoop2

01-25-2009, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by Hakkola

I don't doubt it, you could pick up crates etc. that way but a plane that size must be travelling at around 200mph, minimum to stay in the air, no way you could pick up a stationary person at that speed without killing them.

Remind yourself to never be an engineer, if it's possible for you to dismiss things so quickly. Pwned:

7dU9JntKuh0

PErEsNhDmo8

95teetee

01-25-2009, 07:46 PM

Originally posted by BigMass

The cell phone sonar, lol ok. Not to mention how they take a totally stupid idea like that and go Transporter 2 on us in the end where the entire city is mapped out using everyone’s cell phones.

that's one I was going to mention.
Another, is the whole car-turns-to-bike part.
And the tractor-trailer rig doing an endo because of a cable hooked to the front end.
And the bend the rifle barrel. I can't single this movie out for that one, others have done it, too. But come on, even if you were strong enough to bend a frickin' rifle barrel, what's the chance that the guy holding the rifle is strong enough to hold it in place while you do it?

Hakkola

01-25-2009, 08:06 PM

Originally posted by 95teetee
that's one I was going to mention.
Another, is the whole car-turns-to-bike part.
And the tractor-trailer rig doing an endo because of a cable hooked to the front end.
And the bend the rifle barrel. I can't single this movie out for that one, others have done it, too. But come on, even if you were strong enough to bend a frickin' rifle barrel, what's the chance that the guy holding the rifle is strong enough to hold it in place while you do it?

Cell phone one, well, science fiction... car-to-bike, no problem, what makes that impossible?

Endo- I didn't mind it, if you make the front stop suddenly and the back end still wants to move forward, it is possible.

Rifle barrel - He didn't bend it with his bare hands if you were paying attention.

Hakkola

01-25-2009, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by koopkoop2

Remind yourself to never be an engineer, if it's possible for you to dismiss things so quickly. Pwned:

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PErEsNhDmo8

Interesting, guess it is possible if you have enough elasticity in the cable. :thumbsup:

ZorroAMG

01-25-2009, 09:14 PM

BigMass, you are beyond ridiculous. Was TDK the first hollywood movie you've ever seen? Congrats!

You don't care enough? Fuck, you clearly care TOO much. Let it go, it's a MOOOOOOVIE. :rolleyes:

BigMass

01-26-2009, 02:29 AM

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
BigMass, you are beyond ridiculous. Was TDK the first hollywood movie you've ever seen? Congrats!

You don't care enough? Fuck, you clearly care TOO much. Let it go, it's a MOOOOOOVIE. :rolleyes:

i dont care that it's a movie. I care about how people are saying this is the best movie ever made and possibly better than Godfather. If this movie got the rating it deserves, somewhere along the lines of 5-6/10 then nobody would be having this discussion now.

You could say "it's a moooooovie" to every movie reviewer on the planet as a response to their critique. It's pointless.

Oh and here :rolleyes: i can use stupid smiles too

ZorroAMG

01-26-2009, 10:28 AM

What, you don't realize that it got the ratings it did from the millions of basement masturbating comic freaks that live with their parents? I agree, the movie wasn't that good...in fact Heath was the only good part about it, really.

It's a movie based on a COMIC BOOK HERO and we are discussing realism??

LMAO

BigMass

01-26-2009, 11:32 AM

Ahh the old “it’s only a fantasy story, comic, sci-fi” response

Realism within the realms of a story plays a big factor. Like if in LOTR Aragorn started flying like Superman it would be un-realistic even though obviously the entire movie is a fantasy.

The whole big hard-on with this new batman is how it’s supposed gritty and realistic. Batman is portrayed as a normal person with exceptional skills. Not a superman character with fantasy superpowers.

ZorroAMG

01-26-2009, 11:57 AM

You aren't understanding my posts at all. I won't debate this with you any longer.

in*10*se

01-26-2009, 04:41 PM

Originally posted by BigMass
This is just off the top of my head. I didn't bother going through it with a piece of paper and analyzing everything. This is just what i remember of a movie that i try and forget because it sucked so much. In a year or so i'm sure i'll have forgotten everything about this movie since it was so pointless.

snip

*EDIT* If i actually sat down and watched the movie again i could probably come up with a list twice as long. I just don't care enough.

clearly you care enough to sit and write a novel about it... damn... :rofl:

beecue

01-26-2009, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by BigMass

i dont care that it's a movie. I care about how people are saying this is the best movie ever made and possibly better than Godfather.

It's a million times better than The Godfather for me and the best movie ever made imo. I bet that makes you mad huh .. you can't argue and tell me it's not. :rofl:

240SX92

01-26-2009, 05:45 PM

Where were you guys when I was getting bombarded by people on this forum when the movie first came out saying it's a "film masterpiece" and deserved "tops on IMDB."

Look, this movie was entertaining for what it was, it did what it had to do, but you can't seriously begin to get a hard-on for this movie and say it's the best movie of all time, hundreds of movies surpass and excel in sheer plot, innovation, and test of time, as exampled Godfather, or Citizen Kane for that matter... Everyone jizzed their pants over this movie saying how AMAZING it was, really? No it wasn't, it was a summer blockbuster that did it's job wow'ing us for a couple hours, blown far out of proportion by the death of an actor who did act very well in it. I enjoyed the movie quite a bit, and yes did buy the DVD, but really did have a ton of holes in it, and definitely NOT comparable to the top movies on that IMDB list. Was this movie better then Pulp Fiction? Nope. Was it better then Citizen Kane? Nope. Was it better then all 3 Star Wars, Schindlers List, Dr. Strangelove, Memento, Apocalypse Now, Taxi Driver. Nope, but it was decent.

On personal opinion, Nicholson's Joker > Ledgers. Just purely based on personal opinion. I don't think you can really compare them apples and oranges, two completely different adapted versions of Joker. Comic book psychotic vs. Menacing scary psychotic.