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DSM4LIFE
01-26-2009, 09:48 PM
hey!
i'm looking into a new project and i want your guys opinion on what i should get.

Should a get a 240sx or an EG civic hatch?

Redlyne_mr2
01-26-2009, 09:49 PM
What are you looking for in a car? Budget?

sr20s14zenki
01-26-2009, 09:50 PM
Depends, if you want to go fast for cheap, 240sx. If you want to spend 5000$ on an engine alone, civic :D

saiyajin
01-26-2009, 09:51 PM
^ hey redlyne.. did you get my PM by any chance?

sorry thread hijack :nut:

RZRSHARP_SVX
01-26-2009, 10:29 PM
do you want to do cool burnouts or boring FWD burnouts.


what kind of power do you want?


Forced Induction?

Budget really does come into play

ercchry
01-26-2009, 10:32 PM
do you want sweet wide low offset wheels or 7inch wide +50 offset wheels?

DSM4LIFE
01-26-2009, 10:34 PM
k well ill have enough for either an sr20 swap or a b16 with extra parts but i want it to be faster than my DSM and i also am pretty interested in kicking it sideways

JimmyBurner
01-26-2009, 10:35 PM
You want the 240sx.

DSM4LIFE
01-26-2009, 10:37 PM
but i also have to bring reliability into play

JimmyBurner
01-26-2009, 10:38 PM
Originally posted by JimmyBurner
You want the 240sx.

DSM4LIFE
01-26-2009, 10:42 PM
haha okay well now i gota find one

ercchry
01-26-2009, 10:44 PM
Originally posted by DSM4LIFE
but i also have to bring reliability into play

just check out the sr20 with a fine tooth comb and do not push too much boost without the right parts and you will be fine

way better off then a dsm ahhaha

and parts are plentiful

suprame
01-26-2009, 10:46 PM
whats a eg6?

also ill assume eg6's are wayyyy better. hands down.

if you wanna drift do it backwards in a eg6

DSM4LIFE
01-26-2009, 10:47 PM
haha yah dude the DSM is quite the headache but i'm thinking of getting a swap done by JDMSOURCE. have you guys had any experience with them?

suprame
01-26-2009, 10:49 PM
i have hes really good he just sold me this hott arc intake. o man my whip probs has like a good 79 hp now

Driven Sideways
01-26-2009, 10:51 PM
The 240 is more than likely the best bang for your buck. Don't get me wrong I tho! I love my old EG it's a tank! But a quick Civic always seems to cost a lot more money then people claim. Gotta remember it's not exactly a sports car <.< If you do go with a Civic id lean more towards Hatchbacks and preferably the SI models.

sr20s14zenki
01-26-2009, 10:52 PM
Originally posted by suprame
i have hes really good he just sold me this hott arc intake. o man my whip probs has like a good 79 hp now

Can you do us a favor please mr troll and hit the log out button?
thanks

:thumbsup:

Sorath
01-26-2009, 10:55 PM
if u like my customer is selling his 240 hb 93 its got 200k blue in colour only damage is it needs a new fender. if you're interested drop me a pm i have to look for his information at work tomorrow

suprame
01-26-2009, 11:01 PM
Originally posted by Sorath
Lowballed some guy on the marketplace so I only paid half of his asking price. Then met up with him and hid 10$ in my pocket and told him the only money I had was all in my wallet, so I saved 10 more dollars

haha awsome.

ercchry
01-26-2009, 11:06 PM
Originally posted by DSM4LIFE
haha yah dude the DSM is quite the headache but i'm thinking of getting a swap done by JDMSOURCE. have you guys had any experience with them?

get the motor there but make sure you check it out well first, compression test and check what condition the oil was in before it ended up there at least

and for install.... hint: he has posted in this thread haha

DSM4LIFE
01-26-2009, 11:09 PM
haha thanks dude well i don't really know what to look for cause i don't know a whole lot about cars. i'm 16

Driven Sideways
01-26-2009, 11:09 PM
Originally posted by suprame


haha awsome.

I really wish you would add something more constructive to this thread.

Furthermore an EG6 is a far superior JDM version of the typical 92-95 Civic... And as for drifting a Civic. Well I regret to inform you that anything can be drifted. From a shopping car to a smart car. Yes people are going to call you an ass hole for sliding your FWD around. There are those times people can't deny you make it look good tho ;)

SR240SX
01-26-2009, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by DSM4LIFE
i don't know a whole lot about cars. i'm 16

Hope you have lots of money, Buying a good condition S13 along with a complete SR swap will cost quite a bit...

sr20s14zenki
01-26-2009, 11:26 PM
still won't cost as much as getting torque from a honda sr240sx

Sorath
01-26-2009, 11:27 PM
naw sr swap is like 3000 tops and car is like 1500.

not that bad....

but being 16, learn how to drive first

SR240SX
01-26-2009, 11:31 PM
Originally posted by Sorath
naw sr swap is like 3000 tops and car is like 1500.

not that bad....

but being 16, learn how to drive first

I just did a swap for a buddy with a $3000 Budget, Only mod we got out of it was a used exhaust, And that dosent include my labour.

$1500 240 wont be in the best of shape, If he dosent care about condition, then sure. Then labour for the swap, We also all know these cars love to have problems, Nothing major but even the slightest thing he could have no clue about, Because he dosent know much.

Obviously for the money, If you want to go fast for cheaper then a honda, Buy a 240sx. Just prepare to spend some cash and be pissed when it dosent run.

ercchry
01-26-2009, 11:37 PM
low rust 240sx-$3000 (no such thing as a canadian rust free 240sx anymore ahha)
s13 sr20det from jdmsource ~$2500
good clutch and flywheel combo- $800
downpipe and exhaust staying on the cheap side ~$500
labor (cheap non-shop rate labor) ~$1200

sr20 powered 240sx built not bought- $8000

silvia or 180sx from japan with a sr20 already in it and rust free -$6000 hahaha so depends what you are looking for

EDIT: silly me i forgot front mount intercooler and a fuel pump :nut:

add up to another $1000

bawlls
01-26-2009, 11:40 PM
you can buy my 240.
pm moi

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 12:08 AM
haha thanks guys but just cause im 16 it doesn't mean i can't drive. i gone to quite a few tracks and ive driven cars with quite a bit of power

ercchry
01-27-2009, 12:14 AM
ah well if you want power... once you have what i listed above...

550cc injectors -$300
z32 maf- $150
t28 turbo (depends on the type) - $500-$1200
chipped ecu-$250
boost controller- $20-$300

set it to 15psi or so and depending on tune and turbo choice you will be near 300whp in a car that weighs around 1200kg

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 12:28 AM
thanks well im selling my dizzum for 5500 and i'll probably have around 6-7 grand for now and i can add on as i go. but what should i buy first. i can also get the sr20 engine for 2100 and labour will be 900

ercchry
01-27-2009, 12:32 AM
buy things that you need for the swap that take forever to ship.... ie. clutch/flywheel, and might be a good time to do motor mounts, and if you have the money now do the turbo when the engine is out of the car... much easier

if you want to save money just start searching here and on driftwest.ca for used parts that come up for sale and start collecting.

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 12:32 AM
Originally posted by SR240SX


I just did a swap for a buddy with a $3000 Budget, Only mod we got out of it was a used exhaust, And that dosent include my labour.

$1500 240 wont be in the best of shape, If he dosent care about condition, then sure. Then labour for the swap, We also all know these cars love to have problems, Nothing major but even the slightest thing he could have no clue about, Because he dosent know much.

Obviously for the money, If you want to go fast for cheaper then a honda, Buy a 240sx. Just prepare to spend some cash and be pissed when it dosent run.
i'll be getting all body work done by a friend for cheap. and i have a dsm so i'm used to having car problems

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 12:33 AM
do you guys think its better to build it yourself or should i buy one thats already done

ercchry
01-27-2009, 12:36 AM
depends... some people like building that way everything is done the way you like it and you know everything about all the parts on the car

but if you want to save money buying a prebuilt car is way cheaper, lots of nice examples for sale right now too

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 12:40 AM
well i gotta find something good but no RHD

ercchry
01-27-2009, 01:19 AM
s14 shell?
http://driftwest.ca/forums/showthread.php?t=3435

Tram Common
01-27-2009, 01:40 AM
Originally posted by Driven Sideways

Furthermore an EG6 is a far superior JDM version of the typical 92-95 Civic... And as for drifting a Civic. Well I regret to inform you that anything can be drifted. From a shopping car to a smart car. Yes people are going to call you an ass hole for sliding your FWD around. There are those times people can't deny you make it look good tho ;)

:facepalm:

If you're a 16 year old kid that wants something with a little "go" in it and is fun to play around with, then get the Civic.

You won't have the money, or the expertise to play around with an engine swap and all the headaches that will accompany it and that will accompany buying a rust bucket 240SX for under 2K.

My .02

Redlyne_mr2
01-27-2009, 01:56 AM
This may sound strange but it makes sense to me. For all the work and hacking involved in converting a USDM EG, s13, s14 to japanese spec car why not just buy a JDM version and do a LHD conversion? Dash's are cheap and easy to find for the most part and the rest of the transfer should be pretty straight forward. You'd have the benefit of the lower mileage superior oem engine and clean body with the convenience and admiration of LHD. If I was speedtech/autodream I'd be marketing this type of swap rather than engine swaps since it's much easier, less liability and would be quite popular I think.

rawsensation
01-27-2009, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
This may sound strange but it makes sense to me. For all the work and hacking involved in converting a USDM EG, s13, s14 to japanese spec car why not just buy a JDM version and do a LHD conversion? Dash's are cheap and easy to find for the most part and the rest of the transfer should be pretty straight forward. You'd have the benefit of the lower mileage superior oem engine and clean body with the convenience and admiration of LHD. If I was speedtech/autodream I'd be marketing this type of swap rather than engine swaps since it's much easier, less liability and would be quite popular I think.

Well that's a different take on things but does make sense, now I wonder how many people will be doing this :eek:

D911
01-27-2009, 02:25 AM
Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2
This may sound strange but it makes sense to me. For all the work and hacking involved in converting a USDM EG, s13, s14 to japanese spec car why not just buy a JDM version and do a LHD conversion? Dash's are cheap and easy to find for the most part and the rest of the transfer should be pretty straight forward. You'd have the benefit of the lower mileage superior oem engine and clean body with the convenience and admiration of LHD. If I was speedtech/autodream I'd be marketing this type of swap rather than engine swaps since it's much easier, less liability and would be quite popular I think.

i believe the probem with doing a RHD->LHD or vice versa, is that you have to transfer a lot of the sheetmetal work with it too, ie the whole firewall with most cars, unless you feel like doing lots of cutting welding and patching and making holes and whatnot.

Redlyne_mr2
01-27-2009, 02:31 AM
Originally posted by D911


i believe the probem with doing a RHD-&gt;LHD or vice versa, is that you have to transfer a lot of the sheetmetal work with it too, ie the whole firewall with most cars, unless you feel like doing lots of cutting welding and patching and making holes and whatnot.
Well many cars have holes in the firewall already since they're produced for various countries, many of the holes are just filled in with huge rubber grommets. It wouldnt be very hard to punch a couple of holes for the steering column, pedals etc. Some cars would be more difficult than others but it's just a suggestion. IMO id rather do that than try to piece together a swap and splice wires, rig things up etc.

ercchry
01-27-2009, 09:09 AM
it has been done, but i would think the amount of work involved is close to the same:

steering rack
dash
brake booster
clutch master and lines
extending wiring harness
then i would have to change the power locks and windows because it would drive me crazy

so pretty much need a whole entire parts car and since they are just starting to come down to a reasonable price it may start to be more common place to see

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by Tram Common


:facepalm:

If you're a 16 year old kid that wants something with a little &quot;go&quot; in it and is fun to play around with, then get the Civic.

You won't have the money, or the expertise to play around with an engine swap and all the headaches that will accompany it and that will accompany buying a rust bucket 240SX for under 2K.

My .02

well i have a car right now that has "go" i'm running 12psi in my awd talon so i just want my next car to be faster. but i've had to deal with all the dsm problems so i might be okay with the nissan

Driven Sideways
01-27-2009, 11:20 PM
Originally posted by DSM4LIFE


well i have a car right now that has &quot;go&quot; i'm running 12psi in my awd talon so i just want my next car to be faster. but i've had to deal with all the dsm problems so i might be okay with the nissan

The only problem is that the best mod for a Talon happens to be a tow truck. All this talk sounds like your ballin for 16. If you really have that kind of money to work with you should spend your on a real sports car. There are a few fully tuned race cars around these parts for that sum.

DSM4LIFE
01-27-2009, 11:52 PM
true DSM's are a major headache. i just can't decide what to buy. i'll have around 6000 or more so you know

DSM4LIFE
01-28-2009, 01:00 PM
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-Nissan-1991-240sx-no-rust-need-it-gone-this-week-W0QQAdIdZ101343423
what you guys think

LilDrunkenSmurf
01-28-2009, 01:11 PM
This thread makes me lol.

Redlyne_mr2
01-28-2009, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by DSM4LIFE
http://calgary.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicles-cars-Nissan-1991-240sx-no-rust-need-it-gone-this-week-W0QQAdIdZ101343423
what you guys think
Ad title states no rust but the front end is smashed with rust all over .. awesome!!

suprame
02-05-2009, 11:43 PM
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