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Fluidic
08-15-2002, 06:08 PM
LOL... nice Bobby... looks like you and a friend of mine had a teensy bit of fun yesterday! :)

http://www.newveedub.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard/ikonboard.cgi?s=3d5c38bfaa4bffff;act=ST;f=37;t=12;st=0

So who REALLY won?! LOL

Peter

buh_buh
08-15-2002, 08:56 PM
uh... WBB6 would SPANK a stock 1.8T

max_boost
08-15-2002, 09:07 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh
uh... WBB6 would SPANK a stock 1.8T

Only when its warm outside! Cause when its cold, the charger won't work!:rofl:

B18C
08-15-2002, 09:19 PM
He would kill a 1.8T.

max_boost
08-15-2002, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by B18C
He would kill a 1.8T.
And your car would kill them both but only when Gavin is driving though! j/k

B18C
08-15-2002, 10:00 PM
Originally posted by max_boost

And your car would kill them both but only when Gavin is driving though! j/k

I would win too ya know! :madred:

max_boost
08-15-2002, 10:17 PM
Originally posted by B18C


I would win too ya know! :madred:

I know you would! :burnout:

sexualbanana
08-15-2002, 11:55 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


I know you would! :burnout:

"it doesn't matter if u win by an inch or a mile. winning is winning."

words u live by right arch?

buh_buh
08-16-2002, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by max_boost


Only when its warm outside! Cause when its cold, the charger won't work!:rofl:
Hondata, my friend.

kenny
08-16-2002, 12:41 AM
Peter, know anyone with a black 1.8T w/ black/gunmetal wheels in the arbor lake area? If so... pass on the word, that his car looks nice! :thumbsup:

max_boost
08-16-2002, 12:43 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh

Hondata, my friend.

Yes, my friend!
But hondata doesn't come cheap, I say WBB6 should just throw it in for his buyer! HIgh Roller styles!

buh_buh
08-16-2002, 12:49 AM
Originally posted by max_boost
I say WBB6 should just throw it in for his buyer! HIgh Roller styles!
I say WBB6 shoudl just throw it towards me!

max_boost
08-16-2002, 12:51 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh

I say WBB6 shoudl just throw it towards me!

Or you can just trade cars, don't let the opportunity pass you by

B18C
08-16-2002, 12:52 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh

I say WBB6 shoudl just throw it towards me!

Hell, I'll take another one. Can never have enough of them

Fluidic
08-16-2002, 12:56 AM
Originally posted by kenny
Peter, know anyone with a black 1.8T w/ black/gunmetal wheels in the arbor lake area? If so... pass on the word, that his car looks nice! :thumbsup:

Hey Kenny!

I know of a person who fits that description, however it's a 2.0L N/A not a 1.8T. Did the car have a BORA badge and nothing else on the trunk?

Peter

girlRACER
08-17-2002, 02:10 AM
hahaha...this is so funny...can't believe I'm reading this!!
I was the one talking with him on the phone and he says to me "I think this guy in a black jetta wants to race me. I'll put down the phone for two seconds so hold on." And then the next thing I heard was that he beat the Jetta. Didn't expect to find this on the forums though! :)

James
08-17-2002, 07:01 AM
Originally posted by girlRACER
hahaha...this is so funny...can't believe I'm reading this!!
I was the one talking with him on the phone and he says to me "I think this guy in a black jetta wants to race me. I'll put down the phone for two seconds so hold on." And then the next thing I heard was that he beat the Jetta. Didn't expect to find this on the forums though! :)

ha, thats pretty funny!:thumbsup:

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 09:27 AM
Wouldn't a stock lude kill a stock 1.8T? The driver of the 1.8T sounded pretty confident that he would have won if he didn't have 3 other people in the car (is he stock?), I find that hard to believe!!

side note - WBB6 damn... I love your ride man, so hot :drool:

CRXguy
08-17-2002, 09:39 AM
Originally posted by kenny
Peter, know anyone with a black 1.8T w/ black/gunmetal wheels in the arbor lake area? If so... pass on the word, that his car looks nice! :thumbsup:

Looked exactly like FD's car, but with Superleggera's? I saw it yesterday when I was working in the area.

buh_buh
08-17-2002, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by RCBVtec
Wouldn't a stock lude kill a stock 1.8T? The driver of the 1.8T sounded pretty confident that he would have won if he didn't have 3 other people in the car (is he stock?), I find that hard to believe!!

side note - WBB6 damn... I love your ride man, so hot :drool:
stock vs. stock I think it would be a driver's race with the Prelude having a slight advantage.

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 11:51 AM
really??? That close hey... hmmm, what are the 1.8Ts stats????

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 12:51 PM
Ask anyone who has gone for a ride in my car; it's fast, DAMN fast! :)

Peter

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 12:55 PM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
Ask anyone who has gone for a ride in my car; it's fast, DAMN fast! :)

Peter

I have never drivin or been in a 1.8T... you might have to educate me with a ride in your ride man... :D

I have drove a VR6 last year, and it wasn't overly impressive, tons of low end torque, but seemed to loose power high end...

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 01:10 PM
Oh man... when my K03-Sport starts spooling... it's small size makes up for the small engine displacement... and since it's a hybrid of the bigger K04... the top end it almost TOO powerful! LOL

BTW: my redline was removed... :)

Peter

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 01:36 PM
you'll have to excuse me, I know nothing about Veedubs :confused: ... is your turbo aftermarket or stock?? I really am curious as to what your car can do... have you taken it to the track?? what are your times?? Have you raced any stock or near stockes ludes??

and how did you remove your redline???

B18C
08-17-2002, 01:36 PM
2001 Jetta GLS 1.8T:
- 0-60: 7.2 (car-stats.com)
- 1/4: 15.7 (car-stats.com)

2000 Prelude:
- 0-60: 6.8 (car-stats.com)
- 1/4: 15.4 (car-stats.com)

Looks like the Prelude has the edge.

Go Honda go :burnout:

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by RCBVtec
you'll have to excuse me, I know nothing about Veedubs :confused: ... is your turbo aftermarket or stock?? I really am curious as to what your car can do... have you taken it to the track?? what are your times?? Have you raced any stock or near stockes ludes??

and how did you remove your redline???

My present turbo is classified as "stock"; peaking at 14/15PSI (depending on temp and load) and steady at 12PSI... and this is completely factory. I have not taken my car out to the track yet, but I am hoping to do so ASAP! I played a game of "cat and mouse" with, what looked to be a relatively stock "blue" Prelude about a week ago... needless to say, I wasn't the one trying to catch up! :)

Peter

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by B18C
2001 Jetta GLS 1.8T:
- 0-60: 7.2 (car-stats.com)
- 1/4: 15.7 (car-stats.com)

2000 Prelude:
- 0-60: 6.8 (car-stats.com)
- 1/4: 15.4 (car-stats.com)

Looks like the Prelude has the edge.

Go Honda go :burnout:

That is incorrect information. My Jetta has a 2003 motor, classified as an AWP 1.8T, which means a little different tuning, some bigger pipes, better software and a K03 Sport Turbo. You listed an AWW 1.8T motor (2000.5-2001.5). The biggest difference, the Jetta you listed has is a smaller turbo inlet (50MM) vs. my 2003 with a 55MM inlet... and of course... different software!

Time will tell friends, time will tell... I'll see YOU on the track! :)

Peter

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 02:03 PM
AWD - 2000 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI
AWW - 2001 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/Wolfsburg
AWP - 2002 model year on Golf/Jetta/GTI/337 (yes its the same engine)

AWD 9.3:1 55mm K03 0.6bar No VVT
AWW 9.3:1 50mm K03/K04 0.6bar VCT
AWP 9.3:1 55mm K03/K04 0.8bar VCT emmis

Peter

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital


My present turbo is classified as "stock"; peaking at 14/15PSI (depending on temp and load) and steady at 12PSI... and this is completely factory. I have not taken my car out to the track yet, but I am hoping to do so ASAP! I played a game of "cat and mouse" with, what looked to be a relatively stock "blue" Prelude about a week ago... needless to say, I wasn't the one trying to catch up! :)

Peter

Interesting... so your turbo is considered stock anything else you got done to it. Or is it all stock? You really have me curious now with the little story about "cat and mouse"... I'd love to have a go with ya just to see the difference... I have never to to the track either, so I can't give you any times... that might have to change...

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 02:07 PM
Come on dude... let's head down there and go at it... next Friday if I'm not working?

BTW: all I have done to the engine is a drop in K&N filter... but that's more for sound then performance! :)

Peter

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 02:13 PM
Tempting... I might be working as well, we'll have to see...

BTW I have intake and exhaust, very minor gains, maybe 5HP... mainly just for the sound as well...

Robbie

B18C
08-17-2002, 02:34 PM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital


That is incorrect information. My Jetta has a 2003 motor, classified as an AWP 1.8T, which means a little different tuning, some bigger pipes, better software and a K03 Sport Turbo. You listed an AWW 1.8T motor (2000.5-2001.5). The biggest difference, the Jetta you listed has is a smaller turbo inlet (50MM) vs. my 2003 with a 55MM inlet... and of course... different software!

Time will tell friends, time will tell... I'll see YOU on the track! :)

Peter

Ahh...that would explain why car-stats hadthe 2000 model year as about half a second slow down the 1320.

CRXguy
08-17-2002, 03:58 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh
it would be a driver's race.

I think someone else is gonna have to drive Fluidic's juan-point-ate-tee then.;) :p :rofl:

2000impreza
08-17-2002, 04:04 PM
you can't go on some site like car-stat and compare the numbers...... it just doesn't work that way.

Fluidic's 1.8T is pretty fast. faster than i thought it was.... but this is bench racing right?

1.8T VS Prelude
RACE! RACE! RACE!
:clap: :devil:

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 04:08 PM
what's bench racing??? :dunno:

2000impreza
08-17-2002, 04:20 PM
where you take the specs of two or more vehicle's, compare them, and try to predict which one is faster(1/4 mile, corners,...etc) without actually racing in real time. :rolleyes:

RCBVtec
08-17-2002, 04:27 PM
ahh thanks man... yeah speculation doesn't mean a thing...

B18C
08-17-2002, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by 2000impreza
you can't go on some site like car-stat and compare the numbers...... it just doesn't work that way.

Fluidic's 1.8T is pretty fast. faster than i thought it was.... but this is bench racing right?

1.8T VS Prelude
RACE! RACE! RACE!
:clap: :devil:

Comparing stats can at least give you an idea of where the 2 cars sit. It's not the be-all-and-end-all but it's better than sitting here and saying a 1.8T is faster without any basis what so ever.

Besides, it shows that the guy is smoking crack if he thinks a stock 1.8T can take bobby's prelude.

Fluidic
08-17-2002, 05:28 PM
.... and we concluded that Bobby's Prelude WOULD INDEED beat my friends 1.8T... :)

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 03:29 AM
to prove this, lets race FD.

spyguy
08-18-2002, 03:44 AM
I'd like to see this race too....GOOOO PRELUDE!!!!!:thumbsup:

kenny
08-18-2002, 04:01 AM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital


Hey Kenny!

I know of a person who fits that description, however it's a 2.0L N/A not a 1.8T. Did the car have a BORA badge and nothing else on the trunk?

Peter

Hmm don't remember, I'll have to take another look at it. I see it every second day pretty much.

max_boost
08-18-2002, 11:32 AM
Ok, here is my question

Is the 1.8T faster than the VR6? I know it has less power but it has BOOST!

With FD driving, VWs are going to get embarassed haha:rofl:

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by max_boost
With FD driving, VWs are going to get embarassed haha:rofl:
oohh, FD you better put Sam in his place. You gotta represent for the VWs.

Fluidic
08-18-2002, 11:50 AM
Oh come on... that's not fair... that was my first standard I ever owned!! :( :(

The 1.8T is by FAR much faster then my VR6... turbo is where it's at!! :)

Buh Buh... you and I... Race City... it's on! :)

Peter

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 11:51 AM
fuck that man!!!! FD representing vw's...shit this is gonna be embarasing... heh

Fluidic
08-18-2002, 11:51 AM
oh yah... you too Sam... get your 2.5L ass to the track so I can hand it too you!! :confused: :)

Peter

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 11:54 AM
k, Sam wont be able to beat anyone....
We could just find a good ol fashioned road where nobody goes on and race there. I can't afford $20 anymore. SOMEBODY on this forum is making me spend all my money.:dunno:

max_boost
08-18-2002, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
oh yah... you too Sam... get your 2.5L ass to the track so I can hand it too you!! :confused: :)

Peter

FD, I trash talk alot. I am not a real racer nor I ever will be. The only form of racing I know is in a straight line and that's it.

Aside from that, don't you dare fcuk with me man!:guns: :rofl:

max_boost
08-18-2002, 11:55 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh
k, Sam wont be able to beat anyone....

Its not me, its my car. Take the car out of the equation, B18C won't ever win a race either!:guns: :rofl:

B18C
08-18-2002, 12:50 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


Its not me, its my car. Take the car out of the equation, B18C won't ever win a race either!:guns: :rofl:

Hey f#$k you! i'm going brush up on my mAd sKilLz this winter and show you ALL!!! :madred:

:burnout:

LUDELVR
08-18-2002, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh
k, Sam wont be able to beat anyone....
We could just find a good ol fashioned road where nobody goes on and race there. I can't afford $20 anymore. SOMEBODY on this forum is making me spend all my money.:dunno:

Geez, I wonder who that could be?? hahaha, well at least you'll have some nice shit on your car when it's all said and done!!!! hahaha:rofl:

max_boost
08-18-2002, 01:05 PM
Originally posted by LUDELVR


Geez, I wonder who that could be?? hahaha, well at least you'll have some nice shit on your car when it's all said and done!!!! hahaha:rofl:

I'm pretty excited to see the finished product too!

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 01:10 PM
Originally posted by max_boost


I'm pretty excited to see the finished product too!
there's nothign to see really.
its just a lot of hype, that's all.

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 01:12 PM
i know the perfect road for you guys to race :)

Fluidic
08-18-2002, 01:15 PM
Don't mention it on here Mike man... PM us... maybe if you guys go to this drift meet tonight... we can try there! :)

Peter

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 01:20 PM
heh i know..dude.....drift meet sounds fun hehe whos going?

redline
08-18-2002, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh

stock vs. stock I think it would be a driver's race with the Prelude having a slight advantage.

i dont think so, my friend has a 1.8t with intake and boost and still loses to a stock RSX-S.

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 01:23 PM
Originally posted by redline


i dont think so, my friend has a 1.8t with intake and boost and still loses to a stock RSX-S.
really??
hm....
maybe its not as close as I thought then.....

max_boost
08-18-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by redline


i dont think so, my friend has a 1.8t with intake and boost and still loses to a stock RSX-S.

Interesting..........:confused:

Fluidic
08-18-2002, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by redline


i dont think so, my friend has a 1.8t with intake and boost and still loses to a stock RSX-S.

Yah whatever... what year is it?

Peter

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 01:32 PM
hey FD race redline and the buhbuh :) see how u do! and 1.8t are fast but not that fast man..........they have pretty bad turbo lag......

Fluidic
08-18-2002, 01:35 PM
Ok... here's a lil` filler... I do not have the stock 180HP. I have close to if not a little more then 200HP... don't believe me... race me!

I'm not bullshitting... I am not known to do this... but sometimes... you gotta stand up and represent a lil` VW! :) :burnout: :angel:

Peter

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 01:39 PM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
I have close to if not a little more then 200HP... don't believe me... race me!
what mods do you have?

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 01:52 PM
just kick his ass kevin..jeez haha he drove a VR6 to a 16.8...........your gonna win!! :)

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Audi Kid
just kick his ass kevin..jeez haha he drove a VR6 to a 16.8...........your gonna win!! :)
I'm just curious dammit!
And plus, who knows. Maybe FD's polished up his skills a little.

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 01:55 PM
hehe maybe :)

buh_buh
08-18-2002, 01:58 PM
either way, I'm always up for a friendly race.
I'm not going to back out just because I think I'm going to lose (not that I think I'm going to lose to a 1.8T)

Fluidic
08-18-2002, 02:02 PM
Actually Mike it was 16.6... and you know what... that VR6 was NOT fast! LOL

This weekend, I raced a good friend of mine who has a 220HP K04 1.8T. It was a pretty even race... even amount of weight and what not... both with good starts. Now I felt bad when I did this... but I beat him. Don't ask me how, or why, or where... but I beat him fair and square... and he is very open to his losing to my relatively stock 1.8T K03/K04. I know my friend well enough to say that when he races... he races HARD... like I swear... he has no regard for his tranny.... but nonetheless... with my “skillZ” I beat him. :bigpimp:

I have brushed up my skills since my last adventure at Race City... but now... I'm ready! :D

Peter

Audi Kid
08-18-2002, 02:09 PM
thems fightin words!

The Raptor
08-18-2002, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by redline


i dont think so, my friend has a 1.8t with intake and boost and still loses to a stock RSX-S.

Yes I know this "friend" haha.. I remember doing our videos too.. eh Redline? :D

gpomp
08-18-2002, 06:37 PM
Peter gave me a ride in his car and I think the 1.8T can take a 5g Prelude. The boost feels faster than VTEC on my butt dyno, but I might be wrong.

2000impreza
08-18-2002, 07:02 PM
Originally posted by gpomp
Peter gave me a ride in his car and I think the 1.8T can take a 5g Prelude. The boost feels faster than VTEC on my butt dyno, but I might be wrong.

lol. no kidding. his car is pretty fast. a great deal faster than what i thought....... but.... anyways.... just race!!! we all want to know.

RCBVtec
08-19-2002, 08:40 AM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
Ok... here's a lil` filler... I do not have the stock 180HP. I have close to if not a little more then 200HP... don't believe me... race me!

I'm not bullshitting... I am not known to do this... but sometimes... you gotta stand up and represent a lil` VW! :) :burnout: :angel:

Peter

K... so your not stock then... I thought you said all you had done was a drop in K&N filter there's no way that gave you 20+HP... :confused:

and I'm with Kevin find a road to race on... $20 is too much...

buh_buh
08-19-2002, 11:23 AM
I don't care if your stock or not.
Lets go, now im itching to race.

CRXguy
08-19-2002, 11:26 AM
go buh_buh go!!!!:thumbsup: :D

RCBVtec
08-19-2002, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh
I don't care if your stock or not.
Lets go, now im itching to race.

you taking to me or FD??

2000impreza
08-19-2002, 03:07 PM
probably FD.

Ed the SOHC
08-19-2002, 03:16 PM
I want a friendly race with FD too. I don't care if I lose. I just want to use my car before it gets parked.:D

Ben
08-19-2002, 03:24 PM
The 1.8T has virtually no turbo lag...

Ben
08-19-2002, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by max_boost
Ok, here is my question

Is the 1.8T faster than the VR6? I know it has less power but it has BOOST!

With FD driving, VWs are going to get embarassed haha:rofl:

Keep in mind, the VR6 is only 174HP, and the 1.8T is 180 horse...

The New Jetta GLI puts out 200 HP stock with its 2.8L 24V VR6, ands I think would take the 1.8, but not by much at all...thats the beuty of VW i guess, they under-rate thier motors really badly...

Redlyne_mr2
08-19-2002, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by gpomp
Peter gave me a ride in his car and I think the 1.8T can take a 5g Prelude. The boost feels faster than VTEC on my butt dyno, but I might be wrong.
of course it would it has more torque but that doesnt necessarily mean anything..

Redlyne_mr2
08-19-2002, 03:46 PM
Originally posted by Benny
The 1.8T has virtually no turbo lag...
ya those are small ass turbos turbo lag is non existant on those

2000impreza
08-19-2002, 04:09 PM
i don't know about you guys. but i just want to see a 1.8T race a prelude:D

cocoabrova
08-19-2002, 05:50 PM
Originally posted by Ed the SOHC
I want a friendly race with FD too. I don't care if I lose. I just want to use my car before it gets parked.:D
Me too :clap: :burnout: The way the fuggin weather's been we'll prob. be parking our cars next month:banghead: :banghead:

Okay, here's the list of ppl that wanna race FD:
1) buh_buh
2) Ed the SOHC
3) cocoabrova

BTW peeps just add your name to the list as the post go on:thumbsup: :devil:

Ben
08-19-2002, 06:07 PM
Originally posted by cocoabrova



Okay, here's the list of ppl that wanna race FD:
1) buh_buh
2) Ed the SOHC
3) cocoabrova
4) Benny

Ed the SOHC
08-19-2002, 06:21 PM
Originally posted by cocoabrova

Me too :clap: :burnout: The way the fuggin weather's been we'll prob. be parking our cars next month:banghead: :banghead:

Okay, here's the list of ppl that wanna race FD:
1) buh_buh
2) Ed the SOHC
3) cocoabrova
4) Benny



FD, you got a hit list now... but I think you should race kenny before you even THINK about racing us.:rolleyes:

Fluidic
08-19-2002, 06:51 PM
HAHAHA... this is the best thread ever! LOL

I'll race WHOEVER wants to race on Friday at Race City (if I don't work)! :)

Peter

buh_buh
08-19-2002, 09:51 PM
I have no money.
So no race city for me

Fluidic
08-19-2002, 10:13 PM
It's 20 bucks man... come on... your not "skipping-out" on me are you? :confused: :p

Peter

OMOYYC
08-19-2002, 10:19 PM
I'll make it if my new wheels+tires come in by then :burnout:

buh_buh
08-20-2002, 12:18 AM
Originally posted by Fluidic Digital
It's 20 bucks man... come on... your not "skipping-out" on me are you? :confused: :p

Peter
that's how hurtin' for cash I am.

Fluidic
08-20-2002, 12:23 AM
Next time then! :thumbsup: