2002 R34 Skyline IN CANADA! (and for sale)

[nbaker00]

http://www.weissach.com/auto-details.asp?autoID=847

Nice car, wonder what they're asking.


Being a right-hand drive, this is the only vehicle of its kind in Canada, after completing a thorough importation process via a certified Nissan agent and government agencies. Don't miss your chance to own something very special!

[benyl]

How is that even possible.

[zipdoa]

i'm guessing $100k ++++ .... if I were rich :hitit:

[vengie]

Originally posted by benyl
How is that even possible.

this...

[eur0]

damn, yeah I wonder if thats even legal?

[Toms-SC]

Will they take a $500 deposit?

[Jlude]

Originally posted by Toms-SC
Will they take a $500 deposit?

you fuckin' beat me to it! :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:




It doesn't state anywhere, but perhaps it's a unibody reconstruction?

[Redlyne_mr2]

Wow I wonder how Weissach did it?

[yue]

could they have dissembled the car in japan and reassemble it here?
is that even cost effective?

[sr20s14zenki]

If its assembled here it can be called a "kit" car, and its not cost effective, prolly cost more than what he's listing it for.

[black13]

That would be nice to own.

[C4S]

It didn't say it is legal to drive on our steet .. right ?

Just for track may be ?? :dunno:

Few of my frend got R34 .. ( in HK .. bought 3 or 4 yr ago..:dunno: ) didn't ask which year .. it was app. $30K back then ...
So .. now I guess with shipping .. ~ $30-35K ? :dunno:

[sr20s14zenki]

Originally posted by C4S
It didn't say it is legal to drive on our steet .. right ?

Just for track may be ?? :dunno:

Few of my frend got R34 .. ( in HK .. bought 3 or 4 yr ago..:dunno: ) didn't ask which year .. it was app. $30K back then ...
So .. now I guess with shipping .. ~ $30-35K ? :dunno:


Maybe, but as far as i know, if a car comes here that isnt legal to the month and year, they make you send it back, or cut it in half right there. One of the bigger importers told me that back in the day, dont think he's around anymore tho. I think if its here for a track meet or something, it can only be here for so long, its timed.

[GQBalla]

wow nice car,


ill be importing one when its legal ahah

[dino_martini]

Nice.

[max_boost]

G-damn!

How much? Someone call!

[95EagleAWD]

I'm calling them tomorrow to see how it's street legal here.

I'd rather have this though.

http://www.weissach.com/auto-details.asp?autoID=843

[Cody D]

Originally posted by zipdoa
i'm guessing $100k ++++ .... if I were rich :hitit:

Would you really spend over $100,000 on an R34, I admit it's a nice car, but I could never justify spending that kind of money on it, frankly I'd take an R35 over it.

Edit: I agree with Ryan, 993's are beautiful.

[Redlyne_mr2]

OH man that Ruf turbo R is crazy.. I'd rather have that over the r34 any day of the week.

[95EagleAWD]

993's are the cat's ass of 911s, IMO. Especially with the widebody kits.

That '02 360 Modena is only 135K... Wow. And the 05 Gallardo for 150K. Gotta love the economy right now!

[nismodrifter]

That Ruf Turbo R is hella gangster. Especially that color. Sickness.

Any Vancouverites on the board that could check the car out/get some info? Very curious to know more about it.

[zipdoa]

Originally posted by Cody D


Would you really spend over $100,000 on an R34, I admit it's a nice car, but I could never justify spending that kind of money on it, frankly I'd take an R35 over it.

Edit: I agree with Ryan, 993's are beautiful.

No... Unless I was filthy rich. It would be fun for about 4 years until they're legal to import and it's worth nothing more than the next R34 GT-R.

[nbaker00]

Originally posted by nismodrifter
That Ruf Turbo R is hella gangster. Especially that color. Sickness.

Any Vancouverites on the board that could check the car out/get some info? Very curious to know more about it.
I'm actually in Vancouver right now.
I may be able to take a peek at it tomorow depending on my schedule/flight times.

[bigboom]

Originally posted by Toms-SC
Will they take a $500 deposit?

i think the question is whether they would take it and keep it or just take it and then give it back like the should.

[rc2002]

There was a company in the US that used to modify them to be LHD cars and sell them.

At that price tag though, you could just put your name down for a brand new GT-R instead.

[funkedelic2]

whoa that is one nice r34! Won't be cheap

[n1zm0]

I'll bet it's for track use, Sport compact car had imported an s15 a while ago and it was strictly a track car, perfectly legal (and it's 25 year rule in the states) You can import anything of any year but you'd just have it sit in the garage till it's legal or make it a track use only. Like you could have this r34 in your garage, then in 8 years get it oop'd.

I'd still like to know how the hell it's street legal if it really is

[Trini]

nice R34.
really curious how this could be street legal as well

[That.Guy.S30]

Originally posted by n1zm0
I'll bet it's for track use, Sport compact car had imported an s15 a while ago and it was strictly a track car, perfectly legal (and it's 25 year rule in the states) You can import anything of any year but you'd just have it sit in the garage till it's legal or make it a track use only. Like you could have this r34 in your garage, then in 8 years get it oop'd.

I'd still like to know how the hell it's street legal if it really is

from what ive been told, once its registered as a track car you cannot change its status back to a street car.

[narou]

Originally posted by Thi_Thi Subs


from what ive been told, once its registered as a track car you cannot change its status back to a street car. ààI believe you are correct..

an really how can they have had this car imported and clear custom's this must be some kind of mistake

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD

I'm calling them tomorrow to see how it's street legal here.

I'd rather have this though.

http://www.weissach.com/auto-details.asp?autoID=843



Originally posted by Redlyne_mr2

OH man that Ruf turbo R is crazy.. I'd rather have that over the r34 any day of the week.


And the PERFECT colour to boot...

[HiSpec]

I am thinking to some people that it is not worth buying it if they can't show it off on the street and only drive it on the track.

[black13]

I always wondered, couldn't you just sneak a container at the ports and maybe slap an R32 vin on it and get it registered and say it was a conversion or a kit car?

[Mibz]

Originally posted by black13
I always wondered, couldn't you just sneak a container at the ports and maybe slap an R32 vin on it and get it registered and say it was a conversion or a kit car? Yep, and then when you get caught you get fucked by Customs, the longest, hardest dick of the law.

[kwazy]

I was looking to buy this car, they were asking 250k before (not from weissach)

From what I was told, the lights had to be DOT approved which costs lots of $$$. IIRC something like 150k just to get it DOT approved. This car technically isn't 'legal'. It's kinda in the gray area. It's essentially registered as a U-Bilt kit car.

When I saw the car, it only had about 5000km on it. Also it's the NUR spec one.

Also, I don't think this is the only R34 in Canada. There is one in Ontario too!

Call me crazy, but i'm not going to spend 250k on a car just because it's rare.

[SpoonEG6]

soooo sexyyy:drool:

[a social dsease]

:hitit:

[EK 2.0]

Originally posted by kwazy

Call me crazy, but i'm not going to spend 250k on a car just because it's rare.



I would call you crazy regardless...

it's your user name...

[mystikalflip]

Kaizo Industries?

[Canmorite]

Do want.

[scat19]

I, too, would have that RUF. SICK SICK car.

Nice skyrine, but like everyone else said, wonder how its landed here and the cost.

[em2ab]

Originally posted by richardchan2002
There was a company in the US that used to modify them to be LHD cars and sell them.

At that price tag though, you could just put your name down for a brand new GT-R instead.
MotorEX, they got fucked by the FBI once people found out they were selling R33/R34 under crash test ratings done on R32. The ones already registered (illegally) got to stay and all else were turned away. There is still no current way of acquiring one in the USA.

If I remember correctly, this R34 is the one that had a thread here somewhere a year or 2 ago where it came in in pieces and got reassembled by some Asian mechanic in Vancouver that knew all about them. Maybe they finally got it back together and finished the registration process.

Also, is this the dark gray one? I've seen that one twice at car shows here in Calgary, got a few pictures of it.

[realazy]

^ Yup Motorex was the company. They screwed over skyline imports in the US for good. The only skyline that's even legal (with new crash test results) is the R33.


Also...

I've been noticing more and more newer than 25 y/o imports in the states though. Anyone know how they are legal? All grey market? Illegal VIN change?

I've seen RHD ITR's, CTR's, Silvias etc. in the states.

People register them and drive them. They're not RHD conversions.

[max_boost]

Kwazy,

$250K? Nevermind. Nice car though. :D

[Tezzating]

Originally posted by realazy

I've been noticing more and more newer than 25 y/o imports in the states though. Anyone know how they are legal? All grey market? Illegal VIN change?

I've seen RHD ITR's, CTR's, Silvias etc. in the states.

People register them and drive them. They're not RHD conversions.

I was under the impression that those cars came to Canada first, were legally registered here, then bought by US residents and re-registered as coming from Canada rather than coming from Japan ?

[Team_Mclaren]

depending on the state, there are various ways to register a RHD and drive it "legally". The US has very different import laws from us.

also, this kind of practice is nothing new

http://forums.beyond.ca/st/210575/fs-1997-jdm-subaru-wrx-sti-rhd-from-japan-toronto-ontario/

[Redlyne_mr2]

Originally posted by Tezzating


I was under the impression that those cars came to Canada first, were legally registered here, then bought by US residents and re-registered as coming from Canada rather than coming from Japan ?
Nope not the case, there was a big deal with Motorex a while back, they faked the crashs test on their Skylines to make them complient. When the government found out they shut them down and I think even seized every Skyline that Motorex sold.

Edit: Here is the full Motorex story, I dont have time to read through it now but I'm curious as to what exactly happened.
http://skylinegt-r.wikidot.com/0-60mrex

[scat19]

All that work for a car you can't purchase here.

I guess it's for uniqueness...

[bashir26]

cool.

[nbaker00]

They've put on the price as of this morning, $179,900!

[nismodrifter]

Originally posted by nbaker00
They've put on the price as of this morning, $179,900!

bahahahah. No thanks.

[em2ab]

ompliance with emissions standards.

Recently, a vehicle which came to notoriety[citation needed] is the Nissan Skyline, which was featured prominently in video games, movies and magazines. This vehicle became an object of interest[who?] and in 1999, a California company, Motorex, sacrificed a small number of R33 GTS25s for the purpose of crash testing. They submitted their information to the US National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, and petitioned them to allow 1990-1999 GT-Rs and GTSs to be imported, at the condition that they were modified to meet federal motor vehicle safety standards.

Many Skylines were subsequently imported through Motorex. This lasted until late 2005, when the NHTSA became informed that not all 1990 through 1999 Skyline models would perform identically in crash testing. Motorex had submitted information for only the R33, and told the NHTSA that it was sufficient for all R32, R33, and R34 models[citation needed]. According the further review by the NHTSA, only 1996-1998 R33 models have been demonstrated as capable of being modified to meet the federal motor vehicle safety standards. After that, only these 1996-1998 models are eligible for importation. In March 2006, Motorex ceased all imports and Motorex principal Hiroaki "Hiro" Nanahoshi was arrested and held on $1 million bail on financial, kidnapping, and assault charges.[4][5]


Canada

Cars not originally manufactured to Canadian-market specifications may be legally imported once they are 15 or more years old. This has led to the importing of many "exotic" Japanese sports cars such as the R32 Nissan Skyline. The only categorical exception to the 15-year rule is that many — but not all[6] — vehicles manufactured to US-market specifications can legally be imported into Canada under the compliance modification and inspection program administered by the Registrar of Imported Vehicles. Typically, modifications to meet Canadian standards include the installation of daytime running lights and tether anchors to permit secure attachment of infant car seats, documentation indicating that any repairs required in response to the original manufacturer's factory recalls are complete, and passenger cars assembled on or after September 1, 2007 are also required to have an immobilization system that meets the CMVSS 114 standard. Labelling of the vehicle to indicate its imported status, to warn that the odometer is counting in miles (as made-for-Canada odometers have used kilometres since 1976) and to translate safety-related warning labels (such as airbag maintenance procedures) is typically also required. Speedometers in US and most Canadian vehicles indicate both miles per hour and km/h, so are usually left unmodified.

In March 2007, Transport Canada initiated proposed rulemaking to change the importation laws such that vehicles not originally manufactured to Canadian-market specifications would be eligible for import only once they are 25 years old, rather than the present 15-year cutoff rule[7]. The main impetus behind this proposal is the significant influx of Japanese-market vehicles in Canada in recent years, particularly in Western provinces such as British Columbia due to geographical proximity to Asian ports of departure. BC has a system of public auto insurance. The ICBC has determined that right-hand drive vehicles are involved in 40% more crashes than comparable left-hand drive ve

[avow]

holy crap :banghead:

[SR240SX]

179k????????

You can get a new GTR for cheaper, no?

:dunno:


Edit:

Not sure if it's just me, But the GTR badge on the passenger side head rest looks off center.:rofl:

[psycoticclown]

I thought I heard rumors about somebody in Calgary owning one and it's just sitting in their garage. Bought it in for a trade show or something and been parked until it's legal to drive? :dunno:

[scat19]

You can buy TWO new GT-RS haha. So if your tranny fails, you have a back up ;)

[tentacles]

Canada has a federal system. There are 3 levels of government - federal, provincial, and municipal.

Driving and Road regulations are a provincial mandate. The only thing you need to legally drive a car in Alberta is insurance, registration and OOP.

The IMPORTATION of stuff (i.e. cars) from another country into Canada is regulated by the CBSA, a branch of the federal government (use to be Canada Customs and Revenue Agency). The federal government doesn't tell you what you can or cannot drive, it sets trade policy and decides what can and cannot enter the country, tarrifs, duties, etc.

The specific allowance in the regulation for motorsport vehicles is to allow racing teams to bring in actual race cars in order to compete in an actual race in Canada. It allows them to ENTER THE COUNTRY. The federal government doesn't care whether you drive it or not, it's not their business(see above).

- if your F1 racer can pass OOP and get insurance and plates, go ahead and drive it down the Deerfoot.

- If your brought your R34 down to the registry and you can pass OOP and get plates, go ahead and drive it down the Deerfoot - there's no law saying you can't drive it, you're only breaking federal law by importing it in the first place.

[chkolny541]

Originally posted by scat19
You can buy TWO new GT-RS haha. So if your tranny fails, you have a back up ;)

:werd: :werd: the car is nice, but not 179k nice

[nbaker00]

Looks like they're been getting alot of inquiries on the car, so they just put this up:
http://207.232.100.193/weissach/pdf/gtrspecs.pdf

- The car is a "U-build"
- Exported from Japan/Imported to Canada as "parts"
- DOT approved headlights have been manufactered and installed on the car.
- Has BC assigned VIN

[Sebasshole]

dont know if you noticed but they posted a price.

PRICE: $179,900
Leasing options available.


alittle overpriced, i think i would rather have a brand new gtr if i was going to pay that much.

[max_boost]

:werd:

I'll take two GTR's. One for summer and one for winter.

:werd:

[turbotrip]

didnt read the thread, but i thought there were a couple illegal ones in vancouver already so it wouldnt really be the first right?

[strong]

Very nice car and quite a greedy seller but I guess he has the right considering if there was any bullshit over registration you could go back on them.

Needless to say I would be one happy person witht his is my collection

[J@Tuner]

Awesome car! Depending on the value of the import, this may not be that overpriced.

Yes you can bring one in for track, yes you can try and bring one in illegally and run it on the street. But if you use your track car on the street or your illegal car on the street and get caught, they will take it away and you will be out the $50,000 or whatever the car cost you to bring over. This vehicle is fully road legal and unique.

Also don't forget, they aren't catering this car to the majority of the 17yr old kids who are shit talking the price and so on. This will end up in someone's collection who isn't worried about the price tag.

Beautiful is all I have to say.

[em2ab]

Ya but you're really only paying for 4 years of uniqueness, then anyone can buy one. Though not a 2002 I guess.

[em2ab]

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I just looked at the link for the first time (behind proxy at work). This is the GTR M-Spec Nur edition. There were only 250 of these made.....EVER. It came off the line in February 2002 as a final special edition for the R34 GTR series with upgraded interior and the same engine as the N1 racing version (only 45 made). :eek: :eek: Definitely worth the money for rarity, not just in Canada but worldwide. Here's some information on it:


The GT-R reappeared in 1999, with a revised chassis and other updates. The R34 turbos received a ball bearing core. The R34 N1 turbos had a metal exhaust wheel, and ball bearing center section. A stronger 6-speed Getrag gearbox was used. The turbo outlet pipes were changed from cast to formed metal outlets. The intercooler had a temperature probe in the V-spec models.

Models:

* GT-R - 2.6 L RB26DETT twin-turbo I6, 332 PS (244 kW, 392 Nm) (advertised as 280)[19]
* GT-R V-Spec - Additional aero parts, brake ventilation ducts, diffuser.
* GT-R V-Spec II - As above + carbon fibre bonnet with NACA duct.
* GT-R N1 - Blueprinted N1 motor, no A/C, no stereo, no rear wiper, basic interior trim. (only 45 made)
* GT-R M-Spec - Leather interior, softer suspension with "Ripple Control" dampers, heated seats.
* GT-R V-Spec II Nür - As above V-Spec II + N1 motor, 300 km/h speedo. (only 750 made)
* GT-R M-Spec Nür - As above M-Spec + N1 motor, 300 km/h speedo. (only 250 made)
* GT-R NISMO R-tune
* GT-R NISMO Z-tune - 2.8 L (bored and stroked) RB26DETT Z2 twin-turbo I6, 500 PS (368 kW, 540 Nm) Z1 and Z2 (Only 20 made)


Another special model of the R34 GT-R is the M-spec. It was similar to the V-spec, but had special "Ripple control" dampers and a leather interior with heated front seats.

At the time of the R34's release, like the R32 and R33, Nissan released an R34 N1 model. The R34 GT-R N1 was equipped similar to the R32 and R33 N1 models - a homologation special. It was sold without ABS, air conditioning, audio equipment, rear wiper, or carpet in the trunk. The new R34 N1 was also given the new R34 N1 engine. Only 45 R34 N1 models were produced from the factory, 12 of which were used by Nismo for Super Taikyu racing. The rest were sold to various customers, mostly racing teams, and tuning garages.

In August 2000, Nissan released a newer V-Spec II GT-R model. The V-Spec II has increased stiffness in the suspension (even stiffer than the original V-spec) and had larger brake rotors on the rear. It also comes equipped with a carbon fiber hood, which is lighter than the aluminum that all other GT-R hoods are made from. Also different on the V-Spec II was an iridium center console and aluminium pedals. The seats were also made with black cloth rather than the gray cloth used on previous R34 GT-R models, and the amber turn lenses were replaced with white versions. From this point on the standard trim level GT-Rs and V-Specs also received these updates, with the exception of the carbon fiber bonnet.

In February 2002 Nissan released a final production model of the R34 GT-R called the Nür. Nissan also released a limited Manufacturer Special model designated the M-Spec. This came in two forms, the base M-Spec, and the Nür. The Nür was sold in 2 different models: the Skyline GT-R V-spec II Nür and the previously mentioned Skyline GT-R M-spec Nür. The Nür was named after the famous German Nürburgring racetrack, where the Skyline was developed. The Nür model featured an improved RB26DETT based on the N1 racing engine, used by Nismo in Motorsports. The V-spec II Nür is based on the regular V-spec II model, and the M-spec Nür was based on the regular M-spec model. Other than the addition of the Nür engine, the Nür models also included a different color of stitching on the interior trim, as well as a speedometer reading up to 300 km/h (186 mph).

[edit] Production figures

Standard Cars = 3,964
V-Spec = 7,301
N1 Race Version = 45[12]
Total = 11,310

[em2ab]

I wonder if it's the same one I got pictures of 3 years ago at a show.

http://www.danmaher.com/gallery/d/6614-1/Nissan_Skyline_R34_1.jpg

http://www.danmaher.com/gallery/d/6617-1/Nissan_Skyline_R34_2.jpg

http://www.danmaher.com/gallery/d/7877-1/Nissan_Skyline_R34_1.jpg

http://www.danmaher.com/gallery/d/7880-1/Nissan_Skyline_R34_2.jpg

http://www.danmaher.com/gallery/d/7886-1/Nissan_Skyline_R34_6.jpg

http://www.danmaher.com/gallery/d/7901-1/Nissan_Skyline_R34_13.jpg

Actually, judging from the interior, it's pretty obvious they're 2 different years.

[badatusrnames]

Originally posted by J@Tuner
Also don't forget, they aren't catering this car to the majority of the 17yr old kids who are shit talking the price and so on. This will end up in someone's collection who isn't worried about the price tag.

:werd:

[Shunsui]

Originally posted by em2ab
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
I just looked at the link for the first time (behind proxy at work). This is the GTR M-Spec Nur edition. There were only 250 of these made.....EVER. It came off the line in February 2002 as a final special edition for the R34 GTR series with upgraded interior and the same engine as the N1 racing version (only 45 made). :eek: :eek: Definitely worth the money for rarity, not just in Canada but worldwide. Here's some information on it:


No one noticed the Z-tune kit

[Redlyne_mr2]

em2ab..that r34 was from Seattle, not a nur spec either.

[rumeo]

:hitit: its still damn nice

[4WARNED]

On the same note, i saw this car in person in their showroom....among many other nice cars.....can't remember what they wanted for it, but good luck getting this past RIV..

http://www.familyclassiccars.com/1999-nissan-skyline-gtr-34-v-spec/

[C4S]

180K ... :dunno: :dunno:

Then better buy a new 911 Turbo .. or 2 new GTR .. or a few yr old F430 ... :banghead:

OR

Buy one in Japan .. and buy one in HK or whereever .. and still hv $100K left ... to spend on air ticket to fly back and fore many times to drive it ... :D

(oh .. parking lots too)

I was thinking to buy the one off from my friend, keep it in HK .. so drive it once or twice a yr .. untill it is 15 yr old .. then import it .. I actually ask my brother to buy one .. but instead, he bought a Mini cooper S.. ( $70K cad over there .. :facepalm: )

Well .. just too old to spend time on car now .. :(