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civicrider
02-18-2009, 11:41 PM
just seeing what people are benching with two dumbbells compared to their
body weight
height
doing 3 sets of 10

152lbs

6' 0"

120lbs press (2 x 60 dumbbells)

liquidboi69
02-18-2009, 11:44 PM
I can't tell you my dumbbell weight but I can tell you barbell weight and incline dumbbell weight.

165lb weight
205lb barbell press
120lb (60/hand) incline dumbbell

ZorroAMG
02-18-2009, 11:49 PM
Right now I'm 165lbs

Flat dumbells 80s

A790
02-19-2009, 12:10 AM
Flat bench is 235 x 8 clean reps. Incline is 175 and decline is 205

I weigh 215 right now..

nj2Type-S
02-19-2009, 12:11 AM
i'm 135lbs and with a spotter, i can do 2 x 70 lb dumbbells. without, i can only do 2 x 60 lb dumbbells. i'm too scared to try doing heavier than that without a spotter, lol.

buh_buh
02-19-2009, 12:20 AM
150lbs
85 (170) db press
190 bench
both sets of 10.

The real question is how much you squat in relation to your weight. My squat sucks compared to my bench.

bashir26
02-19-2009, 12:21 AM
170LBS
150lb flat
65s dumbells

civicrider
02-19-2009, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by buh_buh
150lbs
85 (170) db press
190 bench
both sets of 10.

The real question is how much you squat in relation to your weight. My squat sucks compared to my bench.

thats impressive,
yeah squats are a whole new ball game, i have just started yo work on those

89coupe
02-19-2009, 12:25 AM
You guys should throw your height in with your weight. It will paint a better picture.

civicrider
02-19-2009, 12:28 AM
good idea, after reading a couple it would make more sense

buh_buh
02-19-2009, 12:42 AM
I guess I can lift more than I look if that's the impressive part. But to be honest I've plateaued at that bench for probably at about a year with little fluctuations here and there. DBs is where I've made my progress.
I'm probably 5'8 on a good day.

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 12:57 AM
Hmmm ok

165lbs - 5'10"

Flat dumbells for 8 reps - 80's
Squat for 8 reps 225 (just getting into it again as of last week)
Deadlift as of 7pm today for 8 reps 250lbs

No smith machine bullshit, no belt, no straps, strict form.

1-Bar
02-19-2009, 02:51 AM
5'7" 160-165lbs

DB Press 190 (95lbs x 2)
BB Press 205lbs
Ass to Grass Squats 205lbs (can't wait for squats > bench!!)
Deads 275lbs (2 sets/5 reps)

3 sets of 8 for the ones not listed :thumbsup:

vengie
02-19-2009, 02:57 AM
im 6'
weigh 165-170
dumbell press- 80lbs x 10, 3 sets
bench 225 x8, 3 sets.

squat 225x 10 (getting back into it, i banged my knee up pretty good...)

Denslayer
02-19-2009, 09:37 AM
5'9 - 195lbs

315lbs x3 flat bench
285lbx x 3 incline

Wildcat
02-19-2009, 09:48 AM
6'3", 250lbs
8-10 @ 315lbs flat bench barbell.

I don't need to go much heavier than that ever.

BigShow
02-19-2009, 09:58 AM
Why dont we just break ourselves into weight classes, rent out a gym, and have a Beyond's Strongest Man competition...:dunno:

E46..sTyLez
02-19-2009, 10:05 AM
Originally posted by 1-Bar
5'7" 160-165lbs

DB Press 190 (95lbs x 2)
BB Press 205lbs
Ass to Grass Squats 205lbs (can't wait for squats > bench!!)
Deads 275lbs (2 sets/5 reps)

3 sets of 8 for the ones not listed :thumbsup:

You're 165lbs, and you dumbell press 95lbs/hand...? You are the strongest lb for lb guy I know of. I have a buddy that is 150lbs and does 80's but he looks like Bruce Lee

You'd think with that HUGE db press you'd have a bigger bb press though...like 250+

BigShow
02-19-2009, 10:09 AM
Originally posted by E46..sTyLez


You're 165lbs, and you dumbell press 95lbs/hand...? You are the strongest lb for lb guy I know of. I have a buddy that is 150lbs and does 80's but he looks like Bruce Lee

You'd think with that HUGE db press you'd have a bigger bb press though...like 250+

Was thinking the exact same thing, I can believe the 95lb dumbells but your bench press should be way bigger..doesnt really add up.

calgarygts
02-19-2009, 10:21 AM
^^I can see it, I've met some insanely strong pound for pound guys.
At my best (no idea about 10 rep max at the time) I benched 310lbs (1 rep max) and weighed 160lbs. Couldn't quite get double body weight:( Now weigh about 185 and probably around 100lb dumbells for 10's.
Last time I did squats I was doing 405 for 5's so probably something like 350 for 10's.
I'm 5'7".

One thing about the dumbells and bench press - the bar touches the chest and the dumbells touch the shoulders (for me anyways).

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 10:36 AM
I use to press 90's (180lbs) for 4-5 reps weighing 145 back at UofL. I don't think 95's is that big a stretch for someone with great tendon strength as well as decent muscle.

BigShow
02-19-2009, 10:41 AM
Originally posted by ZorroAMG
I use to press 90's (180lbs) for 4-5 reps weighing 145 back at UofL. I don't think 95's is that big a stretch for someone with great tendon strength as well as decent muscle.

I agree with you, but... why wouldnt his flat bench press be much bigger?

zipdoa
02-19-2009, 10:49 AM
Edited for accuracy:

I'm 60'7, 2300lbs, bench 1850lbs 30x100 perfectly... Aiming for 2250 by April/May.

Squats - 2250lbs 30x60 ass to grass

What is everyone rowing? I do 1800lbs 30x100 right now... looking forward to being able to pull my body weight and then i'll be strong enough to do a full set of pull-ups!

Oz-
02-19-2009, 10:51 AM
Haven't tested maxes in a long time.

Probably around 250-260 right now (haven't bothered to weigh myself in a bit)

6'

Bench - 280lb - Last 1RM test was August 2008. This went down because I changed my technique to a straight powerlifting press.
Squat - 455lb - Last 1RM test was August 2008
Deadlift - 500lb - from August 2008. Have worked up to a 465 x 5 though

Haven't been doing much powerlifting specific training recently and moved to a rest-pause method. I don't press on the flat bench anymore and just work on the incline or decline. Been on the incline at 225 x 6/3/1 with each slash representing 12 deep breaths.

Squat - have changed my technique a bit and gone from a low bar to a high bar placement and more of an olympic squat stance. Also don't work on heavy singles as much, goal is to get 315 x 20 again but once I hit the 10-12 rep range the wind just starts to leave me. Probably by end of March should be back there and next goal will be to get 365 x 20, 405 x 20, etc.

Deadlifts for me are also technique based and if I haven't pulled from the floor for a bit, takes me a 2-3 sessions to get back into the groove of things. So my next goal is to get to 6 wheels, while still being able to get the 405 x 10 mark. Been rack pulling and around the 5 wheels for 10 mark.

Ultimate goals are to get to the 300/500/600 mark and that would allow me to qualify for nationals in powerlifting - raw.

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 11:41 AM
Originally posted by BigShow


I agree with you, but... why wouldnt his flat bench press be much bigger?

Psychological? My bench wasn't as strong as DB...some people are also built different...stronger minor muscles to help press dumbells better...dunno...

As for rowing...I do wide grip at 140 for 8 reps, I too need to get back to being able to do full sets of wide grip unassisted chin ups. Best excercise ever!

Oz, great work! I should test my 1RM.....

civicrider
02-19-2009, 11:44 AM
my flat bench is only 15lbs more then my DB press

89coupe
02-19-2009, 11:53 AM
My flat bench is roughly 45lbs more then my DB press, if we are talking about regular reps.

As for technique, I keep my dumbells positioned exactly the same place a bar would come down, the middle of my chest.

Ronnie has great technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGm1rcSqKgU

colinxx235
02-19-2009, 11:57 AM
153lbs
3 x 9 @ 185lbs bar bench
3x 9 @ 70lb/hand incline

civicrider
02-19-2009, 12:00 PM
that guy is disturbing.....

LeeConnexion
02-19-2009, 12:05 PM
5'8 - 150lbs +/- 2lbs

BB flat - 2plates +7.5 = 240lbs
DB incline - 80lbs 10 rep, 85lbs 8 reps
BB decline - 225x7 , 275x4

lol

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 12:16 PM
lol is right.

89coupe
02-19-2009, 12:28 PM
Originally posted by LeeConnexion
5'8 - 150lbs +/- 2lbs

BB flat - 2plates +7.5 = 240lbs
DB incline - 80lbs 10 rep, 85lbs 8 reps
BB decline - 225x7 , 275x4

lol

Thats impressive for such a little guy.

roopi
02-19-2009, 12:32 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe

Ronnie has great technique.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGm1rcSqKgU

He doesn't seem to be bringing them down to his chest after the first couple of reps. What is the proper/best way to be doing these? I usually touch my chest but I really have no clue.

Oz-
02-19-2009, 12:35 PM
Originally posted by roopi


He doesn't seem to be bringing them down to his chest after the first couple of reps. What is the proper/best way to be doing these? I usually touch my chest but I really have no clue.

I changed my technique to allow me to lift more, I have torn both rotator cuffs and the shoulder rotation on the typical back flat/elbows flared you see everyone, would limit the amount of weight I could lift. I do pretty much the same with the DBs.

So I changed it up and here is a good video explaining the technique.

DP3g-I9Sf9s

dharminder
02-19-2009, 12:39 PM
I have not worked out for over a year now

6'0
220lbs roughly
120lb db 4-6 (depending where i threw them in, right after warm up or as my last set working up from 70,80,90)
BB was doing 305lbs for

squates I sucked at so I am going to say 225lbs. I did not want my legs to get any bigger.

Deadlifts I was doing 495lbs for 4-6.


I am not going to sit here and judge peoples numbers, but it was a rare thing if at all ever to see some of the numbers being posted up here

89coupe
02-19-2009, 12:39 PM
Originally posted by roopi


He doesn't seem to be bringing them down to his chest after the first couple of reps. What is the proper/best way to be doing these? I usually touch my chest but I really have no clue.

It looks to me like he pushes up just before it comes to his chest, this keeps the weight on through out the exercise.

I see a lot of guys bouncing the weight of their chest, both with dumbells and straight bar.

zipdoa
02-19-2009, 12:40 PM
Originally posted by roopi


He doesn't seem to be bringing them down to his chest after the first couple of reps. What is the proper/best way to be doing these? I usually touch my chest but I really have no clue.

Work = force x distance

pushing all the way up and bringing it down to your chest (but not touching or bumping) = more distance, which = more work, and more work = more muscle.

So when you think about it, since my arm span is nearly 6'10", I'm doing a hell of a lot more work pushing the same weight on a bench than someone who has a 5'5" armspan.

Oz-
02-19-2009, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe


It looks to me like he pushes up just before it comes to his chest, this keeps the weight on through out the exercise.

I see a lot of guys bouncing the weight of their chest, both with dumbells and straight bar.

Haven't seen the Ronnie video, but I suspect that he was doing that to get the Time under Tension (TUT) burn for the exercise. So not to lose any tension during his exercise while resting the weight even for a split second.

Who knows :dunno:

dharminder
02-19-2009, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by roopi


He doesn't seem to be bringing them down to his chest after the first couple of reps. What is the proper/best way to be doing these? I usually touch my chest but I really have no clue.


best is to leave about two inches between your chest and the bar. you drop that bar to your chest you take the tension of your chest and it focusses on other muscles.

If i am wrong someone correct me

89coupe
02-19-2009, 12:52 PM
Where do all you 150lb supermen workout? I've never seen a 150lb guy push two plates a side before in real life.

I'm very impressed.

LeeConnexion
02-19-2009, 12:54 PM
golds ne or uc

buh_buh
02-19-2009, 01:07 PM
Some of these numbers do seem a little fudged to me too just based on what I've seen at the gym. But I'm probably one of these guys youre talking about anyway. I've pushed 2 plates before, but that was on a 1x5 program and I probably weighed closer to 175 than 150 at the time. I'm available at the University MWF for demos. :poosie:

lint
02-19-2009, 01:25 PM
Thought this thread needed an estrogen injection.

AyzydQyu0Ak

Please carry on

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 01:36 PM
Yeah there seems to be too many people claiming to bench much more than their bodyweight. This always happens in these threads though so WGAF...as long as you know what you CAN lift and you make gains doing it.

Wildcat
02-19-2009, 02:08 PM
Everyone is interested in the ant... no one cares about the elephant :( lol

Boosted_TL
02-19-2009, 02:08 PM
I dont see the point of this thread. If you can cleanly bench your own body weight, you are already ahead of half the population. I see alot of people at Gold's lifting for the image, and not for the purpose. Just because you can lift alot, means shit.

I am impressed by anyone who can lift their body weight, 10+ rep's. That means your lazy ass is off the couch.

On that note :bigpimp:

6.0" - 220lbs - 6-8 reps after 2 sets with 345lbs. I have also thrown up 405 once, with a good spot. I now wont go over 275lb for bench weight as it just feels better!

As far as dumbells go:

Flat - 60,70,80,90,100 for 10 rep's each
Incline - 50,60,70,80,90 for 10 rep's each
Decline - 70,80,90,100 for 10 rep's

Then finish up with some fly's

89coupe
02-19-2009, 02:16 PM
Originally posted by Wildcat
Everyone is interested in the ant... no one cares about the elephant :( lol

LOL, well come on.

Seriously, have you ever seen a true 150lb guy pushing two plates a side at the gym?

I haven't.


But a guy your size, its just expected...LOL

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 02:27 PM
I've seen little guy push 2 plates all the time, 89. Their stubby arms don't have far to go haha...

Juiced? Probably. I've still seen it.

lint
02-19-2009, 02:31 PM
I might be mistaken, but I'm pretty sure Euro838 pushed over 3 plates at the university, and he couldn't have been more than 160-170 at the time. Everyone was stopping and watching and clapping.


Originally posted by 89coupe


LOL, well come on.

Seriously, have you ever seen a true 150lb guy pushing two plates a side at the gym?

I haven't.


But a guy your size, its just expected...LOL

89coupe
02-19-2009, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by ZorroAMG
I've seen little guy push 2 plates all the time, 89. Their stubby arms don't have far to go haha...

Juiced? Probably. I've still seen it.

Little guys, that weigh 150lbs?

Or guys that are really short and weigh 175-200lbs?

Big difference.

I've seen tons of little stalky guys push big weight, but they also weigh 175-200lbs.

150lbs is pretty damn small. I guess if he was 5'5" LOL

1-Bar
02-19-2009, 02:35 PM
Originally posted by E46..sTyLez


You're 165lbs, and you dumbell press 95lbs/hand...? You are the strongest lb for lb guy I know of. I have a buddy that is 150lbs and does 80's but he looks like Bruce Lee

You'd think with that HUGE db press you'd have a bigger bb press though...like 250+



Originally posted by BigShow


Was thinking the exact same thing, I can't believe the 95lb dumbells but your bench press should be way bigger..doesnt really add up.

Thanks! I can't judge my bb press right now, I've been on and off for the last bit. That number was the last time I worked out (last week with buh_buh). It's usually more, I was at 225+lbs at the tail end of December :thumbsup:

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 02:40 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe


Little guys, that weigh 150lbs?

Or guys that are really short and weigh 175-200lbs?

Big difference.

I've seen tons of little stalky guys push big weight, but they also weigh 175-200lbs.

150lbs is pretty damn small. I guess if he was 5'5" LOL

LOL 5'7 guys weighing 175-200 look like beachballs. Not the dudes I've seen.

Anyway....it happens, believe it.

89coupe
02-19-2009, 02:49 PM
Originally posted by ZorroAMG


LOL 5'7 guys weighing 175-200 look like beachballs. Not the dudes I've seen.

Anyway....it happens, believe it.

Those must be some healthy vitamins they are taking.

What gym do you workout at Zorro?

Denslayer
02-19-2009, 03:16 PM
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 89coupe
[B]

Those must be some healthy vitamins they are taking.



hahah so if someone falls into a specific weight based on their height then automatically you assume they are on juice aka healthy vitamins...

curious...where you work out at 89coupe?

89coupe
02-19-2009, 03:41 PM
Originally posted by Denslayer
[QUOTE]Originally posted by 89coupe
[B]

Those must be some healthy vitamins they are taking.



hahah so if someone falls into a specific weight based on their height then automatically you assume they are on juice aka healthy vitamins...

curious...where you work out at 89coupe?

How does healthy vitamins relate to juice?


I work out at World Health.

civicrider
02-19-2009, 03:54 PM
The purpose of this thread was to give me an idea of what people around my stature are benching to see if i am on par, i was pretty impressed with my bench but this thread makes me think twice about that now:rofl: motivation to push harder i guess.

Wildcat
02-19-2009, 04:02 PM
Originally posted by civicrider
The purpose of this thread was to give me an idea of what people around my stature are benching to see if i am on par, i was pretty impressed with my bench but this thread makes me think twice about that now:rofl: motivation to push harder i guess.

I wouldn't hold much stock in that, this is beyond after all.

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 04:07 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe


Those must be some healthy vitamins they are taking.

What gym do you workout at Zorro?


Glencoe club when I am in Calgary. Fitness world by my place in Van.

Vitamins/juice/whatever....I've seen it.

buh_buh
02-19-2009, 04:09 PM
I like how every beyond "How much can you _____" thread turns into a pissing match. Maybe if people were serious (and I know a few key members actually contribute) this section of the forum could actually have some credibility.

civicrider
02-19-2009, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by buh_buh
I like how every beyond "How much can you _____" thread turns into a pissing match. Maybe if people were serious (and I know a few key members actually contribute) this section of the forum could actually have some credibility.

Yeah I guess I should have known prior to making this thread, its just too hard to put the following honestly

weight

height

bench

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 04:13 PM
There are tooooo many bullshitters here for this thread to be valid. I only take advice from a couple of people here when it comes to BB....

The rest of you...suuuuuuuure you can. :D

89coupe
02-19-2009, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by civicrider


Yeah I guess I should have known prior to making this thread, its just too hard to put the following honestly

weight

height

bench

How old are you? That is another important factor.

civicrider
02-19-2009, 04:53 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe


How old are you? That is another important factor.

Age is a factor, im assuming majority of the people on here are under 30, I was trying to make this as simple of an answer as possible just to get a ball park idea.

89coupe
02-19-2009, 05:03 PM
Originally posted by civicrider


Age is a factor, im assuming majority of the people on here are under 30, I was trying to make this as simple of an answer as possible just to get a ball park idea.

Im not...LOL.

But if you are in your teens, or early 20's your body is still developing and you will grow and gain strength faster then you would if you were 25+

Pacman
02-19-2009, 05:13 PM
Before my spinal surgery:

6'2, 230lbs - 8 reps at 255lbs on flat bench.

After 1st spinal surgery

6'1, 200lbs - 10 reps at 155lbs on flat bench

After 2nd spinal surgery

6'0, 190lbs - I can carry two bags of groceries into the house and can sneeze without losing bladder control.

E46..sTyLez
02-19-2009, 05:45 PM
You want some honesty?

6'0"
200lbs...

Haven't been to a gym regularily for 2-1/2 years, bench: 165lbs, 8 times.

I can still curl 50's though haha

LeeConnexion
02-19-2009, 05:45 PM
i'm 150... 2 plates is not that hard seriously.. lol

1-Bar
02-19-2009, 05:47 PM
Originally posted by LeeConnexion
i'm 150... 2 plates is not that hard seriously.. lol

Yeah, 2 plates is a walk in the park....when they're on opposite sides of the bar :rofl: :rofl:

liquidboi69
02-19-2009, 05:48 PM
I'm pretty sure Frank Yang's DL record is pretty close to the APA record.

People are talking about ant strength...that guy doesn't even lift competitively....and just lifts for higher verticals.

Considering the raw drug tested 165lb APA record is 495...and he could do 500 @ 155lb...he should go set the record. Same with his 300lb bench @ 155

89coupe
02-19-2009, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by 1-Bar


Yeah, 2 plates is a walk in the park....when they're on opposite sides of the bar :rofl: :rofl:

Yeh, no kidding...lol.

In case we are not clear, I'm talking 225lbs, two 45's a side.

BigShow
02-19-2009, 06:27 PM
Originally posted by LeeConnexion
i'm 150... 2 plates is not that hard seriously.. lol

If you are talking 2 45lb plates per side, I'm at the gym everyday and I've never once seen a 150lb guy do this.

Leekiwwi
02-19-2009, 06:36 PM
which gym,
i go uc and golds ne

89coupe
02-19-2009, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by BigShow


If you are talking 2 45lb plates per side, I'm at the gym everyday and I've never once seen a 150lb guy do this.

He already stated two plates a side plus 7.5

I was blown away, now if he does it for 10 thats simply awesome.


Originally posted by LeeConnexion
5'8 - 150lbs +/- 2lbs

BB flat - 2plates +7.5 = 240lbs
DB incline - 80lbs 10 rep, 85lbs 8 reps
BB decline - 225x7 , 275x4

lol

Boosted_TL
02-19-2009, 06:42 PM
You guys are hilarious! Whether or not he can do it, who gives a fuck?! My work out partner is 5 8" 175lbs and he sticks with me with weight, he has pushed 345lbs - 6 times for a last set. There is no point in posting what "you" can do, if "you" will not accept anyone else's post!

If they are lying, their only fooling themselves.

Lets move on

Leekiwwi
02-19-2009, 06:45 PM
i agree :)

Dumbass17
02-19-2009, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by 89coupe
Seriously, have you ever seen a true 150lb guy pushing two plates a side at the gym?

I haven't.

i'm 145lbs and i can do two plates easily - each side..pussies!





mind you, one plate is a 45 and the other is a 10 :nut:

YamahaV8
02-19-2009, 07:40 PM
I'm fat but that is why I am at the gym. I don't do dumbbells but I do barbell bench.

My fat ass weighs 280 lbs at 6'1"
I bench 240 lbs after I do some warm up sets.

Canucks3322
02-19-2009, 08:33 PM
I'm currently at 153 lbs and can bench 265 once...my current bench workout is 1 set of 225 for 8 reps, followed by 1 set of 245 for 3 reps, then 2 set of 255 for 1 rep, then a final set of 4-5 at 225.

It's not about how much you weigh...I've been training on bench press since I was 18 so it took me almost 10 years to get up benching 2 plates, I first did it when I was 25, I'm 28 now, the most I benched was 275, when I weighed in at 170 with a bit of chub. Oh yea, and I'm 5'6" barely with really SHORT arms!

kutt3r
02-19-2009, 09:44 PM
LOL I was wondering how long this would take to explode...

Shoot the video, do a PL comp, or who cares?

As long as you are getting gains from it and working your hardest, what someone else lifts really should not matter.

My bench blows donkey balls, at my best I was only about 285 @170lbs. Now it is even worse... with trying to get PLing technique down I am under 200lbs again....but I know once I get it, it should go up consistently again.

I see so many guys with a crap ass bench that I could double my weight too, but I would just be cheating myself.

liquidboi69
02-19-2009, 10:04 PM
^ That's true. PL and BB benches are very different. PL utilizes shoulders more and BB isolates chest more. Also people may arch their backs. So it's hard to compare.

Some people may not have read OP's post stating that he wanted to know 10rep weight, and not a 1x PR.

ZorroAMG
02-19-2009, 11:05 PM
This thread got gay, fast.

Some are liars, some are pissed cause they aren't as strong as they want to be.

STFU and hit the gym, e-lifters.

:D

TurboD
02-19-2009, 11:21 PM
sucks i didn't get to post until the thread was jacked.

weigh 145lbs
5'9" tall

FB BB - 135lbs for 3-4 reps
FB DB - 60-65lbs in each hand for 4-5 reps

i don't do incline or decline and don't do squats so i can't add those.

roopi
02-20-2009, 12:35 AM
Well since this thread is all over the place I have a questions. How does everyones Dumbell Flys (Chest) compare to their Dumbell Press? My fly is half as much as press. I find it much harder to up the weight on the flys in comparison to the press. Is this normal?

ZorroAMG
02-20-2009, 01:02 AM
Flyes rely on tendons as much as chest muscle it seems....tendon strength doesn't grow as much...

Turbo....nice numbers. Try Squats, and deadlifts, they get addictive!

liquidboi69
02-20-2009, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by roopi
Well since this thread is all over the place I have a questions. How does everyones Dumbell Flys (Chest) compare to their Dumbell Press? My fly is half as much as press. I find it much harder to up the weight on the flys in comparison to the press. Is this normal?
I incline bench 60's and I fly 35's. So that seems ok to me.

If you're out of proportion, and your rotators cuff does end up being your limited factor, just do rotators cuff exercises.

Same could be said with benching if you feel that your rotators cuff is holding you back.

http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/criticalbench24.htm

That being said...I think you're ok.

V6-BoI
02-20-2009, 01:15 AM
I'm about 160, about 5'8 and I'm 25.

Most I've benched is 225, for about 5-6 reps on my last set. The most I've done on dumbells is 100 per side, for about 6 reps. But I need someone to spot my wrists. I feel my chest can handle it but my wrist will give out after like 2 reps and I'm gonna drop the weight on my face.

As for squats I do about 205, going down to about 90 degrees, for about 6 reps.

So for sqats, is ass to the grass sqauts better than going 90 degrees?

kutt3r
02-20-2009, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by liquidboi69
^ That's true. PL and BB benches are very different. PL utilizes shoulders more and BB isolates chest more. Also people may arch their backs. So it's hard to compare.

Some people may not have read OP's post stating that he wanted to know 10rep weight, and not a 1x PR.

*cough* lats *cough*

But you are correct, they are very different lifts.

Who does 10reps?
(LOL kidding.. but I rarely hit more than 5-8, with flat bench)

1 RM's are a sure way to get a pec tear....

prae
02-20-2009, 08:47 AM
this thread sucks.

I am 5'9, ~170lbs.

db press 40s 3x10
bench press 155 3x10
squat 185 4x6-7
deadlift never (on my to-learn list haha)

I'm seeing great gains, even after 16 months

I've seen some 145lb "supermen" putting up 2x the numbers above and it's almost always cringe worthy. You look like a fucking tool, and worse, you are going to hurt yourself.

Everlast
02-20-2009, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by V6-BoI
I'm about 160, about 5'8 and I'm 25.

Most I've benched is 225, for about 5-6 reps on my last set. The most I've done on dumbells is 100 per side, for about 6 reps. But I need someone to spot my wrists. I feel my chest can handle it but my wrist will give out after like 2 reps and I'm gonna drop the weight on my face.

As for squats I do about 205, going down to about 90 degrees, for about 6 reps.

So for sqats, is ass to the grass sqauts better than going 90 degrees?

I had/have pretty dainty wrists but I found that raw dead lifts really help strengthen it. Helps with your grip greatly too.

And yea you need to squat like a nammer about to drop a deuce

B17a
02-20-2009, 09:22 AM
I stopped lifting heavy after university, now I just lift to maintain strength. However at my peak strength days, I could do 225x14 reps. And maxed at 315lbs, weighing around 230lbs. Also, I've never personally witnessed 150lbs putting up 225lbs let alone multiple reps. I'd like to see that!

lint
02-20-2009, 11:31 AM
Originally posted by V6-BoI
I'm about 160, about 5'8 and I'm 25.

Most I've benched is 225, for about 5-6 reps on my last set. The most I've done on dumbells is 100 per side, for about 6 reps. But I need someone to spot my wrists. I feel my chest can handle it but my wrist will give out after like 2 reps and I'm gonna drop the weight on my face.

It doesn't count if the rep is spotted. The bench press isn't a chest isolation like a pec dec fly. If your "chest can handle it" but your wrists can't, that means you can't bench that weight.


Originally posted by V6-BoI
As for squats I do about 205, going down to about 90 degrees, for about 6 reps.

So for sqats, is ass to the grass sqauts better than going 90 degrees?

If you have to relax the hams/glutes to get to ATG, then no. Maintaining tightness and going just below parallel is a better option.

1-Bar
02-20-2009, 02:14 PM
IMO stopping at 90 degrees put the maximum strain on your knee from a physiological standpoint, your better off stopping just above or below this point....

b_t
02-20-2009, 03:16 PM
When I used high school the-weight-is-everything form I could do 175x6 at 165 22 years old.. now pushing from just below my solar plexus with very strict form I'm down to 155x8 at 163. 5'10"ish.

calgarygts
02-20-2009, 03:53 PM
Originally posted by B17a
I stopped lifting heavy after university, now I just lift to maintain strength. However at my peak strength days, I could do 225x14 reps. And maxed at 315lbs, weighing around 230lbs. Also, I've never personally witnessed 150lbs putting up 225lbs let alone multiple reps. I'd like to see that!

I can definitely see it, I've seen guys push over double their body weight (these guys were pretty freakish athletes but defnitely not on anything). I came within 5 pounds of doubling my body weight so I have no problem believing others can do it with the right training.

A790
02-20-2009, 04:36 PM
What I want to know is, regarding the guys who can BP twice their bodyweight, do they find stairs to be a big pain in the ass? ;)

Toma
02-20-2009, 04:44 PM
I'm 235.

I dont dumbell bench press...

I do dumbell standing shoulder press 95 pounds each hand....proper, none of this down to the top of your head BS.

beecue
02-20-2009, 04:58 PM
Weight 144lbs 5'8" tall
Bench Press 105 x 10
Deadlift 145 x 8
Squats 145 x 10

I thought my bench was pretty bad comparing to other people doing 2-3 plates each side .. guess not .. I guess my goal should be body weight in a few months .. I haven't tried DB press .. will attempt it next week

calgarygts
02-20-2009, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by A790
What I want to know is, regarding the guys who can BP twice their bodyweight, do they find stairs to be a big pain in the ass? ;)

haha, yeah some of them:) But they've all been athletic people (speed and power athletes).
Mind you there was a guy who I trained with for a bit that was only about 190lbs and was benching 400lbs, he was a complete freak show though. One of the most explosive guys I've ever met.
And I was only 160lbs and doing track when I nearly got double my body weight so really I wasn't all that big and was in pretty good shape.

I guess maybe I should say all the people I've seen doing this stuff are national athletes - they don't work and just train all the time....makes a big difference.

V6-BoI
02-20-2009, 06:01 PM
Originally posted by lint


It doesn't count if the rep is spotted. The bench press isn't a chest isolation like a pec dec fly. If your "chest can handle it" but your wrists can't, that means you can't bench that weight.



If you have to relax the hams/glutes to get to ATG, then no. Maintaining tightness and going just below parallel is a better option.

Ah alright then, I'll keep that in mind for squats.

I didn't really read the OP that says 10 rep weight, I just saw the title and then then just looked at all the numbers.

I guess for a 3x10 rep weight, for bench I'm probably about 160 without a spot, and about 80 pounds for dumbell presses.

Darkane
02-20-2009, 06:21 PM
Oh boy :rofl: :rofl:

:facepalm:

Although some of you guys may or may not be lying, lifting with improper form, or just injured I don't know.

What I do know is I suck at bench, and chest workouts in general.

My best 6'3" @228 last year was 85's x 8 for DB's.

Max bench with .5 second rest on the chest was only 255. Haven't maxed in a while. Bench relies to much on arm length, triceps, shoulders etc.

That is the solid truth. S8Chan won't chime in, but he's done 245 x6 on Flat BB bench at a BW of 160 pounds, 5'10".

Carry on this clinic of awesomeness :D