anyone have an evo 8 and evo 9?

[Sorath]

i really want to buy an evo 9 mr, but i dont want to run into the same problem as my sti. i rushed into it and it turns out i dont like it at all. so i was wondering if i could take a test drive in it as i cant find any local to drive. i wanna know if im wasting my time or not.

[QuasarCav]

What did you not like about the STi?

I have similar issues with the WRX where I probably should have waited to buy something that fit my driving style more than gobs of mid range torque and nothing else.

[n1zm0]

95EagleAWD has one iirc, very nice one too

[Sorath]

I hated the fact that the car understeers way too much.
The rattles drive me crazy, i assume the mitsu is no better in that aspect.
The fact that theres not as many aftermarket support as the evo.
I've always liked the evo better, when i bought the sti i got a pretty good deal so i figured they were both the same, and i didnt drive the evo before i bought the sti.
The #1 reason i dont like it is because whenever i drive the sti i feel like im losing the "fun to drive" aspect. I felt my Civic SI was more fun to drive.

Therefore before i make a big jump again i need to drive an evo.

That would be great if ryan would let me drive his :P

[J@Tuner]

The Evo's are awesome cars but depending on what you are looking at spending and maybe some other deciding factors, the STI may be better to keep and modify.

Are you happy with the styling of the STI?
How about the layout and the car in general?

Items like the car understeers, can easily be fixed. There is TONS of aftermarket support for the STI's that will most definatly bring back your fun to drive experience that you feel you are loosing.

[Sorath]

i think i`d still like to drive the evo before i do that

[J@Tuner]

No doubt, let us know what you think about the 8 vs. 9 vs. STI as it would be interesting to see what you have to say about the 3 different vehicles.

[r3ccOs]

I think if you want a more substantial car, you'll have to move beyond its class to look into S4 territory.

However, the fun factor is one that would make me look towards finding a old JDM Honda SIR or a Integra Type R

[Sorath]

im looking for a practical daily drive that is fun. i dont want to get into euro, dont know why i just dont like them very much, but if i did i`d get a 335. but im pretty set on what car i want but thanks for your opinions.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Sorath
I hated the fact that the car understeers way too much.:P
That's not a problem with the EVO IX granted it's set in 'Tarmac' mode.


Originally posted by Sorath
The rattles drive me crazy, i assume the mitsu is no better in that aspect.:P
Rattles are part of the Subaru experience or so I've been told. The EVO IX may not have as many rattles but you could argue it has a more basic (plain) interior. Recaro seats are amongst the best in the business though (unless your fat).


Originally posted by Sorath
The fact that theres not as many aftermarket support as the evo.:P
True but there is still a fair bit of support for the STI.


Originally posted by Sorath
I've always liked the evo better, when i bought the sti i got a pretty good deal so i figured they were both the same, and i didnt drive the evo before i bought the sti.:P
They are similar in performance but have completely different personalities.


Originally posted by Sorath
The #1 reason i dont like it is because whenever i drive the sti i feel like im losing the "fun to drive" aspect. I felt my Civic SI was more fun to drive.:P
Everyone's definition of fun is different but the EVO is considered in most tests to be the more exciting car to drive because of the extremely quick steering and raw go-cart feel.

If you drive an EVO make sure that you drive one as close as stock as possible because modded cars can vary greatly in feel. Also make sure that you realize completely that the EVO is a more hardcore car than the STI which is great on the track but tiresome daily for alot of people. You may get blown away on a test drive but get tired of driving a track car everyday. It will have a rougher ride, a bit more turbo lag (has a larger turbocharger than the STI), and may fetch unwanted attention since it's pretty rare in these parts.

Edit: The IX is preferable to the VIII as it has a larger turbo, MIVEC (which eliminates some lag and can be tuned to add more power), as well as other teaks.

[Sorath]

i shouldve listened to u at the beginning heavyd, now im just regreting every moment. But yeah definately if i were to get an evo it would be a 9 because of the less turbo lag. i just wanted to get a feel for the car thats why i didnt think it mattered if i drove an 8 or 9

[Generic]

my friend had a modded STI and it was a blast to drive. I drove it for a week, I loved it :dunno:
He put a nice set of coilovers, sway kit in the front and rear, strut bars, and it handled great.
He used dual side tape in all the screws, took out the door panels, and put it all together really nicely. No squeaks.

i'd still take an Evo over an STI though, from what I hear the Evo is even more of a track car.

[4doorj]

Did you already sell your STI?

[4doorj]

Originally posted by Sorath
I felt my Civic SI was more fun to drive.


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[95EagleAWD]

I'll bring mine to Calgary next time I'm there around Easter if you're still looking.

[Sorath]

ryan u the man :D

[heavyD]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I'll bring mine to Calgary next time I'm there around Easter if you're still looking.

How do you like the IX? I took one for a brief drive in Salt Lake city but that was a few years back. The thing I remember most was the quickness of the steering. Not a car you want to sip a scalding hot coffee in one hand and steer with the other.:D

[bigboom]

Originally posted by heavyD


How do you like the IX? I took one for a brief drive in Salt Lake city but that was a few years back. The thing I remember most was the quickness of the steering. Not a car you want to sip a scalding hot coffee in one hand and steer with the other.:D

doesnt he have the VIII with the turbo from the IX?

[heavyD]

Originally posted by bigboom


doesnt he have the VIII with the turbo from the IX?

My bad. For some reason I had it in my mind that he had an IX.

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by Sorath
i shouldve listened to u at the beginning heavyd, now im just regreting every moment. But yeah definately if i were to get an evo it would be a 9 because of the less turbo lag. i just wanted to get a feel for the car thats why i didnt think it mattered if i drove an 8 or 9

Haha dude you make it sound like the STI gave you the HIV ;)

Honestly I heard they are fairly comparable, for daily driving the STI is supposed to be more comfortable, but for tracking, the evo should be better. I personally love my subaru, its one of the best cars I have ever driven but I am extremely curious about other cars on the market. I'd love to get a ride in a evo just to see how the pull feels :thumbsup:

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by 95EagleAWD
I'll bring mine to Calgary next time I'm there around Easter if you're still looking.

Let me know, I wouldn't mind checking it out in person ! I don't want to drive it... though I wouldn't turn down a co-piolet position ;)

[4WARNED]

I sold my VIII in October, but had the pleasure of driving it for 3 years. I could also get the father-in-laws MY05 STi for spirited drives when i wanted to...(both completely stock)

My comments:

EVO
Tighter, tidier suspension tuning, with great steering.
Better shifter, but buzzy on the highway - needed a 6th gear (and getting that 6th gear is a catch22...better for daily car but worse for mods)
Rough roads are not fun, but the Recaros soak up some of the bumps...you will feel every bump in the road...
Cheap interior...but way more room than the STi.
Factory alignment specs equate to short tire life (and i didn't even track my car or launch it)..
Performance wise - STi seemed to jump off the line quicker, but the EVO would pull even once the turbo kicked in ...
Lots of looks, because there still aren't many on the roads....(compared to STi's)
No fancy diffs unless you get an 04-06 evo...
No cruise control - might be important or not...
Brakes are fantastic and the car stops RFN....
better car for asphalt...



STi.
Cheap(er) exterior paint - easy to chip
Interior much classier, once you get passed the smurf blue...
Better daily driver - suspension more forgiving...
Boxer engine sound and exhaust note...
Warranty still in tact, whereas EVO VIII's and IX's do not get to keep their warranties from the states...
driver selectable diffs
6 speed and cruise
better car for rally/gravel.....


It all depends what you're looking for.....

Hopefully it's an already landed evo 9 that you're looking for....the damn exchange, duty and other fees puts the surcharge of a US evo at almost another 40%....i.e. $25K US becomes $35K cdn...

that's what is currently stopping me from picking up another one....for now....

Chris

[Sorath]

Originally posted by 403Gemini


Haha dude you make it sound like the STI gave you the HIV ;)

Honestly I heard they are fairly comparable, for daily driving the STI is supposed to be more comfortable, but for tracking, the evo should be better. I personally love my subaru, its one of the best cars I have ever driven but I am extremely curious about other cars on the market. I'd love to get a ride in a evo just to see how the pull feels :thumbsup:


sti's are completely different from wrx's.

im not interested in the "pull" of a car, the pull in the sti is definately sufficient. its more the feel of a car

[Aleks]

Originally posted by Sorath



sti's are completely different from wrx's.

Agreed, WRX is a way better car to DD.

[jakeobus]

how much are you looking to sell you're sti for if you do? =P

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by heavyD
Recaro seats are amongst the best in the business though (unless your fat). Or a girl with hips. My GF sat in an Evo X at the CAS and found it extremely uncomfortable.

[heavyD]

Originally posted by Eleanor
Or a girl with hips. My GF sat in an Evo X at the CAS and found it extremely uncomfortable.

See I would look at that as a plus; "If you want to sit comfortably in my car you need to spend more time on the treadmill babe.":D

[Sorath]

im testdriving an evo x tonight. i`ll post my thoughts on it after the test drive.

[Eleanor]

Originally posted by heavyD
See I would look at that as a plus; "If you want to sit comfortably in my car you need to spend more time on the treadmill babe.":D You can't change bone structure on a treadmill ;)

Her hip bones were digging in on the side bolsters, she's also pretty tall too though ~5'10"

[Sorath]

so i drove the evo x mr today. i have to say im impressed.

I like how the car rides. the steering is nice and tight. the quick shift is amazing as well its kinda cool it auto downshifts for u. The seats are SOOOOO comfortable compared to the sti seats. If i had to pick the evo x vs the new sti i`d pick the new evo hands down.

The bad: fuck is the interior ever cheap looking. Salesperson asked me if i wanted to take a look at the trunk. i took a look and said what trunk? seems like the only way to go is the MR premium. too bad its too much and i cant afford it. not too crazy about the styling either. but the evo 9 looks promising. Can't wait to drive one

[benyl]

Originally posted by Eleanor
You can't change bone structure on a treadmill ;)

"Dat's one BIG bitch"

haha

[xPRimNT]

Originally posted by Sorath
so i drove the evo x mr today. i have to say im impressed.

I like how the car rides. the steering is nice and tight. the quick shift is amazing as well its kinda cool it auto downshifts for u. The seats are SOOOOO comfortable compared to the sti seats. If i had to pick the evo x vs the new sti i`d pick the new evo hands down.

The bad: fuck is the interior ever cheap looking. Salesperson asked me if i wanted to take a look at the trunk. i took a look and said what trunk? seems like the only way to go is the MR premium. too bad its too much and i cant afford it. not too crazy about the styling either. but the evo 9 looks promising. Can't wait to drive one

You get used to it. I mean, who really needs a trunk anyway :thumbsup:

If you're looking for an 8 or 9, you'll be happy with whatever you end up with. They are very similar, so the trick is finding a good one, in decent condition.

Good luck!

[X_EVO_X]

The trunk is tiny... they moved the battery and washer reservoir behind the back seats to make room under the hood and improve weight distribution. A humungous oil cooler sits where the washer reservoir should be and the intercooler / intake plumbing eats up battery space. Unfortunately there is no pass-thru at all... if you want to carry skis or snowboards you're gonna hav eto loko at a roof rack.

I'm disappointed that they don't build the Evo in the new Sportback body style.