Official NHL 2009 Trade Discussion Thread

[2002civic]

May as well make a new thread since the NHL thread might get cluttered.

First trade of the day...

(Ott) trades Vermette for (CBJ)Leclaire and a 2nd Round Pick

I think this is overpayment for Vermette and a great deal for Ottawa

[Quizzes]

Good stuff. The NHL thread is filled with Canucks talk for some reason... :dunno:

Agree with the overpayment for a Vermette.

[2002civic]

But is Leclaire really going to be the one to solve Ottawa's goaltending problems, they seem to take decent goalies and make them bad or not work out..

[masoncgy]

No question, this is a lopsided trade. I'm surprised Columbus wouldn't have asked for more...

[dr_jared88]

I agree it is a bit lopsided assuming Leclaire recovers fine from his surgery. That and the fact that Ottawa isn't getting anything until next year. Very little chance Leclaire will play this season which rendered him useless for Columbus right now. They are trying to push strong for the playoffs so I think the trade make sense.

[88CRX]

Originally posted by dr_jared88
I agree it is a bit lopsided assuming Leclaire recovers fine from his surgery. That and the fact that Ottawa isn't getting anything until next year. Very little chance Leclaire will play this season which rendered him useless for Columbus right now. They are trying to push strong for the playoffs so I think the trade make sense.

:werd:

There are other factors invloved.... Columbus needed a player to play now to push to get into the playoffs.

Ottawa building for next season.

[D'z Nutz]

I'm curious as to what Burke's gonna do. He knows how to put together a good team, but he's got his hands full with the Leafs.

[supe]

I agree its overpayment, but it is a goalie they arent playing, and its going to be interesting to see what vermette is really made of. I think he'll do better away from the sens.

[Quizzes]

If they're not gonna play Leclaire this season, why not wait until the off-season to try and land a UFA...?? Probably could've traded for Leclaire in the summer and send Vermette for decent prospects.

[Quizzes]

Jokinen is coming to Calgary... again.

- as per Bob MacKenzie, TSN.

[D'z Nutz]

Hmm... According to TSN talks about Jokinen coming to Calgary may be wrapping up... I'll believe it when it happens.

[dr_jared88]

Originally posted by Quizzes
If they're not gonna play Leclaire this season, why not wait until the off-season to try and land a UFA...?? Probably could've traded for Leclaire in the summer and send Vermette for decent prospects.

Because they got a good deal this way. They landed a draft pick and a goalie to a player they were looking to deal. The deal works for both teams here.

[calgarys_finest]

I heard from a friend in the biz that both montreal and toronto are making 1 last try for lecavalier.

[D'z Nutz]

What the fuck, Leopold's back!

[Quizzes]

:clap: :clap: Leopold!! :clap: :clap:

for Lawrence Nycholat, prospect and draft pick.

[dr_jared88]

Looks like Leopold is going back to the Flames

EDIT: You guys are way to quick haha

[2002civic]

yay leopold!!!!

[Quizzes]

Leo and Reggie back together again.

There goes the Nycholat for depth thing.

[HybridTheory]

Interesting...Leopold is back

And damn Beyond, you guys are on top of this shit

[crx/gsr]

I think its good we get leopold back, i liked him when he played here. He seems excited to come back on his phone interview on TSN

[2002civic]

whos the prospect that we gave up?

[Quizzes]

Originally posted by 2002civic
whos the prospect that we gave up?

I'm interested in that too. Hope it's not:
Matt Pelech
John Negrin
Leland Irving
Keith Aulie
Mikael Backlund

that's it for now.

EDIT: Defenseman Ryan Wilson. He was a free agent signing playing in QC, so pretty much a 2nd rounder for Leopold.

[2002civic]

PENS get WOZNIEWSKI from the blues for Danny RICHMOND

[2002civic]

Originally posted by Quizzes


I'm interested in that too. Hope it's not:
Matt Pelech
John Negrin
Leland Irving
Keith Aulie
Mikael Backlund

that's it for now.

Ryan Wilson
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/ryan_wilson

:dunno:

[supe]

Lawrence Nycholat and Ryan Wilson and a 2nd round pick

[DelSoln]

Looks like Pronger won't be going anywhere.

[Quizzes]

Originally posted by 2002civic


Ryan Wilson
http://www.hockeysfuture.com/prospects/ryan_wilson

:dunno:

He's a good offensive defenseman. Not sure why he was never drafted. Maybe he's like a Marc-Andre Bergeron-type player.

[crx/gsr]

gerber to leafs

[D'z Nutz]

Gerber to Leafs

Later Toskala.

[crx/gsr]

morrison to stars

[crx/gsr]

Tellqvist to sabres

[JordanLotoski]

Jordan Leapold?

[2002civic]

TELLQVIST TO BUFFALO FROM THE YOTES

[hks]

hahahahha i love sutter.
pretty much a 2nd for a top 4 defensemen.
ryan wilson sucks, he's a liability in his own zone and he can't skate, he is a career AHLer.

now we just need that top 6 forward....

[2002civic]

Originally posted by MIWYFSHOT
Jordan Leapold?
yes

[Quizzes]

Originally posted by hks
now we just need that top 6 forward....

...Olli Jokinen. ;)

[xLostx]

very solid pick up! good move fo sho

[hks]

Originally posted by Quizzes


...Olli Jokinen. ;)

:bigpimp:

the thing is, when we get olli, squid is 100% not signing here next year. olli is pretty much a replacement for squid.

[Neil4Speed]

Originally posted by Quizzes
:clap: :clap: Leopold!! :clap: :clap:

for Lawrence Nycholat, prospect and draft pick.

Lol poor Nycholat, he was so happy to be playing in his hometown.

[D'z Nutz]

Is anyone else other than me not really interested in Jokinen?

[Quizzes]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Is anyone else other than me not really interested in Jokinen?

I'm iffy on him. He'll solidify the first line for sure but Conroy's been doing a decent job up there lately.

I didn't think Calgary could've locked Cammy up in the off-season anyhow.

[hks]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Is anyone else other than me not really interested in Jokinen?

it's just you

[malcolmk14]

Don't know how you could not be interested in Jokinen. I think he'd put us over the top.

He's a proven 90 point scorer who has played for Keenan in the past, and his contract is a deal at 5.25 mil for another season.

[Stealth22]

Originally posted by Neil4Speed
Lol poor Nycholat, he was so happy to be playing in his hometown.
Hahah I know eh? When I saw that, I was like 'Leopold is a better D-man, and its nice to have him back..but Nycholat I thought was a good addtion too- poor guy is going to be like 'WTF??!'


Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Is anyone else other than me not really interested in Jokinen?

Yes. I don't care much for Jokinen, really.

[xLostx]

olli is a good player, don't think he's worth super huge bucks as of late but def would be a valued player if he shows up production wise. conroy is a good player but doesn't put up many points, overall I wouldn't mind olli joining the flames as long as we didnt have to pay him an arm and a leg

[shadowz]

Possibly Lombari+first rounder for Jokinen Via sportsnet

BTW Welcome back Jordan!

[hks]

Originally posted by shadowz
Possibly Lombari+first rounder for Jokinen Via sportsnet

BTW Welcome back Jordan!

might wanna add a defensive prospect to that, or maybe vandermeer

[AaronK]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Is anyone else other than me not really interested in Jokinen?

I completely agree. I would much rather keep our draft picks and keep Lombardi / Cammalleri than to pick up Jokinen. Lombardi and Cammalleri are solid teammates and I dont think we should replace them.

[Quizzes]

Originally posted by shadowz
Possibly Lombari+first rounder for Jokinen Via sportsnet

BTW Welcome back Jordan!

I'm sure Sutter would need to send a first-rounder but I don't wanna see Lombardi go. He's cheap for what he brings. Can't we dig up something from the farm?? LOL

[shadowz]

Sounds like it could be Vandermeer with his 2mill contract that could go along with the Jokinen trade

[2002civic]

Originally posted by D'z Nutz
Is anyone else other than me not really interested in Jokinen?
I'm not, what has he done in Phoenix? Maybe he can prove me wrogn if he comes but I think it;s worth Lombardi and a first

[Stealth22]

Is Leopold going to sign with us though? According to TSN, hes a UFA after this season...

And they better not trade Lombo..at least if Sutter is smart, he won't. Quoting my post from the Flames thread...


Sutter isn't going to let Lombo go. We need more players like him, not less. We just got Glencross and Bourque for this season...granted, those two don't play much with Lombo (IMO, Lombo belongs on the top line with Iggy and Cammalleri), but those three are probably the fastest guys on the team.

But my point is, Lombo is young, fast, relatively cheap, and he can play some good hockey. He's not scoring as much as Cammalleri, but he can set up some nice goals if he has backup behind him (case in point, Iggy's first goal last night), and he's one of those guys that when he scores, the goal ends up being a huge one.

Lombardi, Cammalleri and Iginla are playing really well together this season- I'd almost say its foolish to get rid of him.

[shadowz]

Originally posted by 2002civic

I'm not, what has he done in Phoenix? Maybe he can prove me wrogn if he comes but I think it;s worth Lombardi and a first

Well its kinda like Cammy, grear player but didnt have as much impact without good/great players around him

[malcolmk14]

If Sutter doesn't think Cammalleri is signing, the Lombardi + 1st for Jokinen is an incredible steal.

Basically the Flames would've given up Lombardi and two draft picks for Jokinen and Leopold.

Unbelievable work by Sutter if this happens.

[2002civic]

Originally posted by shadowz


Well its kinda like Cammy, grear player but didnt have as much impact without good/great players around him

well he does play with doan and doan is an ignla type player and that hasn't worked...

[malcolmk14]

Olli Jokinen since the lockout:

2006: 38 G 51 A - 89 PTS
2007: 39 G 52 A - 91 PTS
2008: 34 G 37 A - 71 PTS
2009: 21 G 21 A - 42 PTS

Totals: 132 G 161 A - 293 PTS

Michael Cammalleri since the lockout:

2006: 26 G 29 A - 55 PTS
2007: 34 G 46 A - 80 PTS
2008: 19 G 28 A - 47 PTS
2009: 33 G 31 A - 64 PTS

Totals: 112 G 134 A - 246 PTS

Jokinen has a cap hit of 5.25 million next year. If Sutter thinks Cammalleri won't resign for less 6 million why wouldn't he make this move to try and win the cup this year?

[hks]

ok some of you guys aren't using your head.
you obviously need to give quality to get quality.
lombardi+1st+defensemen is well worth olli.
olli is a legit #1 center who is signed to a pretty good contract.
he had 3 consecutive 70+ seasons and 30+ goals post lock out in freaking florida. you put squid and fucking jarome iginla on his wings and i guarantee he will be a ppg player.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by malcolmk14
Jokinen has a cap hit of 5.25 million next year. If Sutter thinks Cammalleri won't resign for less 6 million why wouldn't he make this move to try and win the cup this year?

Agreed Cammalleri is as good as gone next year (unless the Flames dump Langkow, Iggy or Phaneuf).

So they might as well pick up Jokinen (knowing that Cammi is gone) in hopes of signing him cheaper next year to a 1-2 season contract.

[AaronK]

Originally posted by malcolmk14
Olli Jokinen since the lockout:

2006: 38 G 51 A - 89 PTS
2007: 39 G 52 A - 91 PTS
2008: 34 G 37 A - 71 PTS
2009: 21 G 21 A - 42 PTS

Totals: 132 G 161 A - 293 PTS

Michael Cammalleri since the lockout:

2006: 26 G 29 A - 55 PTS
2007: 34 G 46 A - 80 PTS
2008: 19 G 28 A - 47 PTS
2009: 33 G 31 A - 64 PTS

Totals: 112 G 134 A - 246 PTS

Jokinen has a cap hit of 5.25 million next year. If Sutter thinks Cammalleri won't resign for less 6 million why wouldn't he make this move to try and win the cup this year?

That is a good point, but you also have to realize that Cammalleri didn't really start scoring and playing really well until he came to Calgary, and the skill that he shows while playing with Iginla, Bertuzzi, etc.. is just impeccable, and I don't believe we can afford to lose him.

[hks]

it's a done deal

[crx/gsr]

lambo and prust for jokinen i hear

[shadowz]

^^^
Lombardi has not reached his full potential, yes he has been playing well, but look at his linemates, Iggy and Cammy. Jokinen deal is supposedly done with Brandon Prust and Lombo on their way to Phoenix

[Stealth22]

TSN is calling the Lombo deal done :(

Prust, Lombo and 1st rounder for Jokinen

[Quizzes]

shitty... Lombo is gone.
I guess we could've seen that coming.

[93mr2gt]

guess we just got Olli for Prust and Lombardi

[cdnsir]

Originally posted by Stealth22
TSN is calling the Lombo deal done :(

Prust, Lombo and 1st rounder for Jokinen

NOOOO!!!!

[malcolmk14]

Unbelievable trade. Good job Sutter.

[AaronK]

Well I hope it pays off, because personally I think that Lombardi is one hell of a player. I'm not too worried about losing Prust though.

[shadowz]

We are making a run for the cup, Sutter is not playing around

[supe]

Lombards will do better with all the young guys in Phoenix, not to mention having gretz as a mentor.. I'm happy for him...This move makes our team stronger for the short term, cant wait for the playoffs now!

[malcolmk14]

So essentially we gave up Lombardi, Prust, and two draft picks... and we got Jordan Leopold and Olli Jokinen.

Unreal. Wow.

[hks]

squid-olli-iggy

:drool:

good deal.
olli>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lombardi


the thing is, we are currently over the cap, so more to come.

[Quizzes]

Lombardi will burn our defense next year... at least he won't score. LOL

[2002civic]

hmmm I have mixed feelign but In SUtter We Trust

[rony_espana]

damn, sad to see lombardi go!

[Mr_ET]

OMFG it's done!

Lombo will be missed but let's see what Oli can do!

[88CRX]

Taken from the Flames thread..... good call eh. LOL


Originally posted by 88CRX
Jokinen would look really nice in a Flames jersey today :D

Sutter loves him and he's being shopped around..... and he doesn't have a big contract as he's a UFA next season.


Can't believe you guys are dissapointed about loosing Lombardi.... LOL. Lombardi has hands of stone. Jokinen is a 30 goal scorer... get your heads on straight!!!

[supe]

Originally posted by AaronK
Well I hope it pays off, because personally I think that Lombardi is one hell of a player. I'm not too worried about losing Prust though.

If you REALLY think about, he's done nothing in Calgary.

He should be playing better and should be getting better every year, which he hasnt. He'll do better in Phoenix.

[calgarys_finest]

who the hell is squid.

[malcolmk14]

Jokinen is not a UFA after this season. He is signed through next season at 5.25 million.

Essentially admitting that Cammalleri is not resigning.

[sputnik]

Originally posted by calgarys_finest
who the hell is squid.

Cammalleri -> Calamari -> Squid

[rumeo]

Originally posted by sputnik


Cammalleri -> Calamari -> Squid


lol:rofl:

Phoenix now has 2 first rounders (only team that does have 2 first rounders)

Calgary and San Jose have 0 first rounders (both trying to have a nice long run)

I'm down for it...
RED MILE BABY

[bulaian]

Originally posted by calgarys_finest
who the hell is squid.

Cammalleri

Edit: too slow

[ianmcc]

Leafs picked up Gerber because Toskala is going under the knife-it was going to be in the off season but expect him to miss the rest of the year to be fully ready for next year.
(Sorry to interrupt the Flames banter!)

[HybridTheory]

Holy shit bye bye Lombo

[calgarys_finest]

Originally posted by sputnik


Cammalleri -> Calamari -> Squid

Oh lol haha should have seen that i guess i always hated nicknames like that.

[AaronK]

Originally posted by supe


If you REALLY think about, he's done nothing in Calgary.

He should be playing better and should be getting better every year, which he hasnt. He'll do better in Phoenix.

Yeah hopefully, cause I think that Lombardi is a solid player. He has been a good teammate for the Flames, and I just hope that Jokinen can fill his shoes.

[jazzyb]

Originally posted by AaronK


Yeah hopefully, cause I think that Lombardi is a solid player. He has been a good teammate for the Flames, and I just hope that Jokinen can fill his shoes.

u have to be kidding me, i'm upset that lombo is gone, but jokinen is 10x the player lombo is. A true centre.

[rumeo]

Toskala is officially done for the season. Toronto shouldn't have picked up Gerber, play Pogge as much as you can and get him good NHL experience.

I'm surprised Toronto hasn't moved any players, I was hoping for Antropov to get moved.

[Stealth22]

Well, I am a tad upset about losing Lombo, but I'm going to trust Sutter on this one...

TSN says that the Flames are a hell of a better team now, looking to go to a new level in the West, etc...one of em, I forget his name, even said he believes Calgary can win the West.

Of course, we take the analysts words with a grain of salt, but...

Bottom Line: In Sutter We Trust...

[adam c]

big trades late in the season can throw off chemistry.. hope this ins't one of those cases

[AaronK]

Originally posted by jazzyb


u have to be kidding me, i'm upset that lombo is gone, but jokinen is 10x the player lombo is. A true centre.

I never once said that Jokinen isnt a solid center, he definately is, but I am just stating that Lombardi has had some good chemistry with our guys this year.

[D'z Nutz]

Well, I hope I'm wrong about Jokinen. I was wrong about Bertuzzi being completely washed up.

I'll miss Lombo, but he definitely wasn't reaching his potential. He would have been dangerous if he had though.

[malcolmk14]

I assure you, you're wrong about Jokinen.

[adam c]

Originally posted by malcolmk14
I assure you, you're wrong about Jokinen.
we'll hold you to that

[shadowz]

^^
Lombardi has only been a key player on the top line and the PK, if you look at our other players that have stepped it up this year such as Moss, Bourque, Boyd, Glencross, their contribution has been a lot more than Lombardi,

Confirmed Calgary gets a 3rd round pick with Jokinen, with Phoenix getting the first rounder with Calgarys option to be either this years draft or next year

[Hakkola]

Jokinen!!! FUCK YES! I fucking love this! :thumbsup:

[crx/gsr]

so we are over cap now and we have to get rid of someone???? Thats what i here on TSN

[Supa Dexta]

So whats ottawa going to do.. They should bring emery back atleast. What a mess.

[Stealth22]

TSN says Calgary is over cap right now..

Whos gonna go next?