Recommend a less intense pain killer...

[ekguy]

Well I'm allergic to most anti-inflammatories and this means I'm left with opioids as means to take car of the very and I mean VERY intense pain in my ankle.

Now at the moment I'm on oxycocets and they make me feel nauseous most the time. I only take one or 2 a day and this only every couple days...

I talked to my doctor about maybe taking something THC derived like Marinol but he didn't know anything about it.

Now I'm sick of taking these pills but am also sick of the pain.

I'm getting a cortisone injection directly in the joint in my ankle in about 2 weeks which hopefully will take care of the pain...

in the eventuality that this does not cease the pain in my foot is there some other pain killer out there that has less risk of addiction and is more on the natural or not as extreme side as Oxy's???

[ekguy]

Also as a side note this is not something I like to take. The pain in my foot is almost unbearable and I would like to know what's out there that is maybe less intense than my current meds since they make me sick...I was thinking t4's but im sure they are almost as bad as the oxy's...

[R154]

hmm

[sevewone]

If the pains really bad just go the normal route with t4's, they just have alot of codene in them. I took these when I cracked my ankle and the feeling of codene is pretty much a deep state of relaxation. I would describe the feeling of my ankle on them as tingly. I even accedently owned my foot on my door frame limping and the pain felt like slight sting, any if I wasnt on t4s it would have felt excruciating.

[RX-7_TWINTURBO]

Percocet maybe ?
My father just had foot surgery done and was in an extreme amount of pain until he started taking these.
my buddy was also given them after he was stabbed.

[YamahaV8]

Originally posted by RX-7_TWINTURBO
Percocet maybe ?
My father just had foot surgery done and was in an extreme amount of pain until he started taking these.
my buddy was also given them after he was stabbed.

Had that stuff too after my surgery. Made me happy for about 15 minutes then I would wake up 4 hours later in the biggest pool of drool I have ever seen. Did the trick though.

[ekguy]

oxycocet are pretty much identical to percocets. I don't like them. I might ask for t4's. I don't like pills that make my stomach turn even if I take them with food...

Does anyone know anything about marinol and it's canadian version???

[teggypimp95]

I dont know much about pain killers, but i just had plastic hand surgery and i tried T3's and peracets and they dident do anything for the pain. I then tryed a Motren (sp?) and it worked wonders. The pain was pretty much gone completly. Im not sure if your allergic to them, if not give them a try.

[5hift]

If your willing to take something THC derived and your stomach gets upset easily, why dont you just smoke weed with the percs? It will solve both problems.

[teggypimp95]

Originally posted by 5hift
If your willing to take something THC derived and your stomach gets upset easily, why dont you just smoke weed with the percs? It will solve both problems.

I like this idea lol

[89coupe]

Originally posted by ekguy
oxycocet are pretty much identical to percocets. I don't like them. I might ask for t4's. I don't like pills that make my stomach turn even if I take them with food...

Does anyone know anything about marinol and it's canadian version???

I can't believe you don't like Percocets, have you tried them? You say oxyocet is pretty much the same, but have you actually tried percocet?

[ekguy]

Originally posted by 5hift
If your willing to take something THC derived and your stomach gets upset easily, why dont you just smoke weed with the percs? It will solve both problems.

I have been and am as I sit here. But the problem with that is that I can't go to work stoned. Days I don't work it's fine with usually just pot. But when I work I have to take the pills without weed.

[ekguy]

Originally posted by 89coupe


I can't believe you don't like Percocets, have you tried them? You say oxyocet is pretty much the same, but have you actually tried percocet?

Oxycocet is identical to percocet as per my doctor. So no I don't like em. I like the fact that it kills my pain but it also kills my stomach. I've also tried Tramacet which is tramadol and acetaminophen and those were even worse.

It sucks that I can't take anti-inflammatories because those would probably help me much more.

Has anyone on here ever been prescribed Marinol substitutes???

[5hift]

Originally posted by teggypimp95


I like this idea lol

:D


Originally posted by 89coupe


I can't believe you don't like Percocets, have you tried them? You say oxyocet is pretty much the same, but have you actually tried percocet?

:werd: They are not the same


Originally posted by ekguy


I have been and am as I sit here. But the problem with that is that I can't go to work stoned. Days I don't work it's fine with usually just pot. But when I work I have to take the pills without weed.

I'm surprised your on pain killers this strong and still going to work. Unless you really want to go, you could probably very easily take time off. I'm pretty sure your pills say no driving as it is.


Originally posted by ekguy


Oxycocet is identical to percocet as per my doctor. So no I don't like em. I like the fact that it kills my pain but it also kills my stomach. I've also tried Tramacet which is tramadol and acetaminophen and those were even worse.

It sucks that I can't take anti-inflammatories because those would probably help me much more.

Has anyone on here ever been prescribed Marinol substitutes???

I would go to a new doctor. Oxycocet is made up of oxycodone and acetaminophen. Percocet is made of oxycodone, acetaminophen and paracetamol.

Paracetamol is a anti-inflammatory analgesic, but it is different from almost all of them. It's used in almost every cold/flu medicine so you've probably taken it and not known.

Why are you looking for marinol substitutes instead of marinol? Both them and Marinol will make you more drousy and sleepy than weed ever will. You get tired and hungry but no high. Imagine the burning out feeling you have after a huge sesh.

Marinol though, is a very body orientated high. I can see how it would useful for pain medication, becasue it gives that muscle loosening effect, kinda like valium. Marinol is usually used as an appitite booster though because you'd have to take a lot to benefit from its analgesic properties.

Are you doing your own research or are these suggestions from your doctor?

[Thomas Gabriel]

Dramamine (benedryl) helps opiate-induced nausea pretty well.

T4s would probably make you just as sick as the oxycet.

I don't think anything THC-based would be good for severe pain. They are meant for chronic low level pain.

[ekguy]

I am very impressed with the level of answers I got on here. I may try percocet instead. I'm hoping my cortisone injection is gonna fix it.

If it doesn't fix it then I have to see a neurologist to see if I have nerve damage in my ankle. when I touch the area of my surgery it feels like thousands of needles stabbing my skin so my doctor thinks I may have nerve damage or the hardware left in my ankle may be causing a reaction...

It's been a nice long mess. Will be 3 surgeries if I get another.

I have no idea if nerve damage can be fixed even...

Anyone ever have a cortisone injection???

And the anti-inflammatory I react to is mostly Ibuprofen

[ekguy]

And on a side note isn't Marinol only available in the states whereas we get Cesamet isn't it?

[gstone]

If you are suggesting you have nerver/neuropathic damage, then take a look at some gabapentin. What sorta reaction do you get from anti-inflammatory drugs??Is it a stomach ache or do you get hives and the like? If you just get stomach aches then you have to just suck it up. Have you tried just tylenol, you can take up to 4 grams a day...

[legendboy]

Originally posted by ekguy


Anyone ever have a cortisone injection???

I had one in my hand last year at the rockyview, fuck did it ever hurt.

It didn't do anything for my pain.

[ekguy]

Originally posted by gstone
If you are suggesting you have nerver/neuropathic damage, then take a look at some gabapentin. What sorta reaction do you get from anti-inflammatory drugs??Is it a stomach ache or do you get hives and the like? If you just get stomach aches then you have to just suck it up. Have you tried just tylenol, you can take up to 4 grams a day...

My wind pipe swells up and i lose the ability to breath. My face swells up and every reaction has been exponentially worse than the last...

[ekguy]

Originally posted by legendboy


I had one in my hand last year at the rockyview, fuck did it ever hurt.

It didn't do anything for my pain.

Well then i should have a lovely day when they stick a needle with that shit directly into my ankle. It's going to be so awesome I can tell already...

[^SkylinE^]

Cesamet is really only perscribed as an antiemetic ( for nausea and vomiting.

Is it that opioids irritate your stomach or the acetaminophen? If you could narrow it down that would help. Acetaminophen is very hard on your liver. And opioids bung you up. Have you tried and isolated narcotic like morphine or fentanyl... something along those lines? Or maybe your bowels hurt because of constipation and all you really need is a high fiber diet and or a stool softener?


Advil and motrin are non steroidal anti inflamitories (NSAIDs), most of the time people react to them due to they way that they are prepared.... most of the time its the gel caps. The old school non gels are usually ok. But then again this is your allergy and not mine so you would know best.

As said above gabapentin might be worth a try if it truly is nerve pain.

Amitriptyline would also be worth a try.....

If you don't mind me asking what happend to your foot?

[legendboy]

Originally posted by ekguy
Well then I should have a lovely day when they stick a needle with that shit directly into my ankle. It's going to be so awesome I can tell already...

Yea they stuck the needle directly into a cyst I have on a tendon and injected it.

It felt ok for about 10 seconds after and then really severe throbbing pain.

I was wriggling around on a table moaning, all these people were watching me haha

It only lasted for about 5 mins

[ekguy]

Originally posted by ^SkylinE^
Cesamet is really only perscribed as an antiemetic ( for nausea and vomiting.

Is it that opioids irritate your stomach or the acetaminophen? If you could narrow it down that would help. Acetaminophen is very hard on your liver. And opioids bung you up. Have you tried and isolated narcotic like morphine or fentanyl... something along those lines? Or maybe your bowels hurt because of constipation and all you really need is a high fiber diet and or a stool softener?


Advil and motrin are non steroidal anti inflamitories (NSAIDs), most of the time people react to them due to they way that they are prepared.... most of the time its the gel caps. The old school non gels are usually ok. But then again this is your allergy and not mine so you would know best.

As said above gabapentin might be worth a try if it truly is nerve pain.

Amitriptyline would also be worth a try.....

If you don't mind me asking what happend to your foot?

im definitely not constipated and do have plenty of fibre in my diet. It's not the gel caps that make me react as I've reacted to Ibuprofen, Advil, no name advil, no name ibuprofen and a couple other anti-inflammatories. I have no idea if it's the acetaminophen that makes my stomach react. Last night I reacted very weirdly to my pills and am going to ask for t4's next time to see if they don't make my stomach feel like shit like the oxycocet. If the cortisone doesn't help I may ask them to see if that nerve medicine will help me.

[89coupe]

I'm assuming you take your pills with food in your stomach?

[ekguy]

indeed I do. Last night the pain was almost unbearable so in the period of about 8 or 9 hours i took 2...It says one every 8 hours. I ate 2 full meals in that period of time...Going to my doctors today to discuss some of the meds mentioned on here.

[Daxin]

Originally posted by ekguy
And on a side note isn't Marinol only available in the states whereas we get Cesamet isn't it?


Marinol is available here in Canada. The product is not prescribed very often, very rare. It is not usually prescribed for pain either.

[Pacman]

Have you tried T3's?

I also didn't like taking the oxycontin and percocets after my back surgery due to the severe constipation and nausea.

I switched to the T3's and they were more tolerable with similar pain relief.

[xrayvsn]

Which facility are you going for the steroid injection?