The thing about Mazda 3's and 6's

[PatrickSponge]

Well, we all seen it happen in 1995. A great looking, affordable car by a mediocre car manufacturer. They were the Pontiac Sunfire and the Chevrolet Cavalier.

Now here we are, closing in on the 2000's and we have the same sichiation: Mazda 6's: They look great, they're affordable and now......

Everybody has one!

Just like what happened in the late 90's with sunfires, everyone has one of these cars and they're no longer the unique, sleek car that they once were, but rather just another one of those cars that everyone has.

Thanks alot mazda, for ruining a couple of great vehicles.

[lhatton]

...and they are a 100 times better than the cavalier or sunfire.

Affordable, good looking, well built car? Why not.

[Crymson]

Not everyone thinks of cars as we do. For the vast majority of people a car is simply a transportation appliance.

[ExtraSlow]

Great car
Affordable
Rare

Pick any two.

[heavyD]

Everybody has a Mazda 3 but I don't see that many Mazda 6's. Would you rather Mazda make them ugly so nobody buys them?

Props to Mazda for figuring out that style sells rather than build anonymous cars like the Accord, Civic, Camry, Corrolla that sell on nothing more than name and reputation. The Mazda 3 just became the best selling car in Canada and I think that is good as maybe the message will start to wear off on Honda and Toyota that people don't just buy because JD Power says it's reliable. Sure Mazda builds a pretty average car but they are proof that attractive styling still rules.

[adam c]

i do see a lot of mazda 6's yes, but i only notice them now more since i have one

nice car, quiet (most of the time), comfortable, has some power, torque is nice especially after switching from honda. only real downfall, can't tune the ECU so yea...

[ExtraSlow]

And the 3 is fun to drive. First FWD car I've ever owned that will oversteer properly on gravel. Mazda engineers have built the fun into the driving expereince, rather than taking the fun out like Toyota.

[inline6turbo]

I used to have a mazda3, loved it :) great value for the money imo.

Personally I'm really digging the newly redigned 2010 model, but i can see many people thinking it's hideous. ie: new Acura TSX space/time machine appearance

http://www.autoblog.com/2008/10/08/2010-mazda3-unveiled-ahead-of-la-auto-show/

http://www.drivearabia.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/2010-mazda-3.jpg
http://www.ecarsavenue.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/2010-acura-tsx-v6-1024x768.jpg

[BlackArcher101]

Blame their cheap financing. Selling the cars at 0% for a long period of time only floods the market with the cars and hurts resale.

[PatrickSponge]

Ur all missing the point.

[adam c]

no we aren't, you're just an idiot

[Gabe182]

Who the fuck says a cavilier is attractive???

[ekguy]

I drove my brother in law's mazda 3 for the weekend not long ago and my broke down transmission Legend was almost as fast as the Mazda. They suck. Nice gauges was the only thing I liked.

My brother in law misses the Legend alot since he bought the mazda since it's much faster than the 3. For most people it might be a great point a to point b type car. But for car enthusiasts you're left with the Mazdaspeed models or nothing.

[freshprince1]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
Ur all missing the point.

I think you're missing the point.

Mazda builds a good looking, well made car, and sell a ton of them and you think they've made a mistake? I'd say they've executed a profitable business plan.

And if they has to be another car flooding the market, at least it looks good and performs well.

[freshprince1]

Originally posted by ekguy
I drove my brother in law's mazda 3 for the weekend not long ago and my broke down transmission Legend was almost as fast as the Mazda. They suck. Nice gauges was the only thing I liked.

My brother in law misses the Legend alot since he bought the mazda since it's much faster than the 3. For most people it might be a great point a to point b type car. But for car enthusiasts you're left with the Mazdaspeed models or nothing.

Isn't the Legend a V6? I would think it shouldn't be a surprise to anyone that it is faster than a 4 cylinder compact car.


...I wonder why I am defending the 3 so much? I don't even own one.

[adam c]

Originally posted by ekguy
I drove my brother in law's mazda 3 for the weekend not long ago and my broke down transmission Legend was almost as fast as the Mazda. They suck. Nice gauges was the only thing I liked.

My brother in law misses the Legend alot since he bought the mazda since it's much faster than the 3. For most people it might be a great point a to point b type car. But for car enthusiasts you're left with the Mazdaspeed models or nothing.

well you don't buy a base model expecting it to be a performance car
if he wanted performance he should have gone with a mazda6 v6 or a mazdaspeed 3/6, rx-8
that's like saying a civic should be performance considering a mazda 3 has more hp and torque than any civic other than the type-r

[A790]

I somewhat agree with the sentiment express re: style of the Cavalier and Sunfire. The 1995 Cavalier Z24 in red with white rims was actually pretty decent looking. Of course, at that time no one could tell that they were going to wind up being appliance like POS's.

The 3 and 6 are both decent vehicles. I applaud Mazda for introducing them and really forcing other manufacturers to up their game on a style perspective.

[bulaian]

:whocares:

[scat19]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
sichiation:

Really? :facepalm:

SITUATION - SIT U A TION.

Easy, isn't it.

[em2ab]

Buy the Mazdaspeed version. Crisis averted.

[PatrickSponge]

Nope nope nope y'all don't unerstan the sityation yet. Maybe, in due time.

[adam c]

no we all do, but we don't care
i see more BMW's, Civics, Corollas than i see mazda3 or mazda6
what's your point?

you don't even live in calgary so what is your argument?

[PatrickSponge]

anyone except adam_c have any comments on this? Much Appreciated!

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
anyone except adam_c have any comments on this? Much Appreciated!

Nope.

It's an econobox.

Its low hp, low cost, decent mileage. What else would you expect? I see a bunch of cobalts, civics, corollas, sentras... well you get the point.

[adam c]

what exactly is your point?
mazda made a car, it's up to consumers to buy it, people are buying it so mazda is making more

are you really that dumb?
mazda wouldn't make the car if people didn't buy it

[PatrickSponge]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
anyone except adam_c have any comments on this? Much Appreciated!

Again, to quote myself, ^^

[adam c]

Originally posted by adam c
what exactly is your point?
mazda made a car, it's up to consumers to buy it, people are buying it so mazda is making more

are you really that dumb?
mazda wouldn't make the car if people didn't buy it

ok cool, i'll quote myself again too

[powerslave]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge


Again, to quote myself, ^^


Well what do you want people to say? I agree completely with what adam said. Should people who own these cars just push them off a cliff so that there will be fewer of them?

[PatrickSponge]

Originally posted by powerslave



Well what do you want people to say? I agree completely with what adam said. Should people who own these cars just push them off a cliff so that there will be fewer of them?

Yes, maybe. Adam think's he the queen of the castle just because he drives a rusty old mazda.

[badatusrnames]

The difference is that the Cavalier and Sunfire were terribly built cars. People had negative experiences with them. And since they sold well, GM's brand image was ruined for a great deal of people.

Look at the Civic, terribly common cars, but since owner satisfaction with them is high, they've done a great deal to raise Honda's brand image. When people move out of a Civic into something larger & pricier, they stick with a Honda (Acura) product.

It's not necessarily a bad thing to flood a segment with your cars. Just make sure that they are a good product so you don't ruin your reputation.

I'll admit though, I'm sick of seeing so many Mazda 3's on the road zooming in and out of traffic and around corners like they are sports cars....

Oh - and lol at "sichiation."

[adam c]

yes i'm the queen if you're the queer
anyways, why isn't this comment about civics? there are just as many civics as there are mazdas

so again, what the fuck is your point
do you own a mazda that has dropped in value? or are you jealous of people driving them? or are you just anal retentive?

[01RedDX]

.

[adam c]

even if i didn't drive a mazda, i would be defending this..

the guy has no leg to stand on, it's ridiculous

[badatusrnames]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge


Again, to quote myself, ^^



Originally posted by adam c


ok cool, i'll quote myself again too

Careful guys, you don't want to get stuck in an infinite loop...

[PatrickSponge]

Originally posted by adam c
yes i'm the queen if you're the queer
anyways, why isn't this comment about civics? there are just as many civics as there are mazdas

so again, what the fuck is your point
do you own a mazda that has dropped in value? or are you jealous of people driving them? or are you just anal retentive?

Oh, hahaha no no. I drive a Chrysler. So I'm FAR from wanting a mazda.

[403Gemini]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge


Oh, hahaha no no. I drive a Chrysler. So I'm FAR from wanting a mazda.

You sure its not a .... dodge stratus?

[ExtraSlow]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge


Oh, hahaha no no. I drive a Chrysler. So I'm FAR from wanting a mazda.
Wait, it's all starting to make sense. He thinks that all car companies should act like Chrysler and make "funky" cars that nobody buys so that when he parks one in his driveway, none of his neighbours will have the same one.
What you fail to realize, Mr. Sponge, is that Mazda is actually trying to turn a profit, unlike Chrysler.

[atgilchrist]

I still don't understand what patricksponge's argument is. So because there are lots of 3s they are bad? Stupid.

[2.0turbo]

I'm failing to see the point here?

I drive a Mazda, its great, and I can feel assured that in a years time, they will be there to service it for me.

[PatrickSponge]

My argument is that we don't like cavaliers or sunfires now, but we do like mazda's 3 and 6's, but they are bound to the same fate as cavaliers so if your planning on buying one then think about that. That's all.

Mods: Lock'er up and ban adam_c.

[adam c]

ban me for what?? lol you fucking noob...

[ExtraSlow]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
My argument is that we don't like cavaliers or sunfires now, but we do like mazda's 3 and 6's, but they are bound to the same fate as cavaliers so if your planning on buying one then think about that. That's all.

Mods: Lock'er up and ban adam_c.
You are a retard.

[PatrickSponge]

Originally posted by adam c
ban me for what?? lol you fucking noob...

Hey I was just joking, wow everyone on this site seems so cereal, just lighten up a bit!

[lilmira]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge


Hey I was just joking, wow everyone on this site seems so cereal, just lighten up a bit!

Cereal? Like frosted flakes? You cant be cereas.

[freshprince1]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
My argument is that we don't like cavaliers or sunfires now, but we do like mazda's 3 and 6's, but they are bound to the same fate as cavaliers so if your planning on buying one then think about that. That's all.

Mods: Lock'er up and ban adam_c.

Well then...your argument is stupid. There are lots of cavaliers and sunfires because they were just cheap, trust me, I owned one...the only reason was because I was a university student and couldn't afford anything else. On the other hand, the Mazda 3 and 6's are well made and more affordable than a lot of their competition, with many standard features that other do not offer.

So, you are basically comparing apples to oranges in your argument, and therefore it holds no ground against even the lightest scrutiny.

The Beyonder's harsh reactions are due to a) your illogical argument, b) your nonsensical replies, and c) you're obviously an attention whore, but you're so out of touch with reality, we can't help but try to shed some light on your false take on the car industry.

[PatrickSponge]

You can't be cereal....I think my opinion is as valid as the next persons.

[adam c]

no you can't compare a sunfire or cavalier to a mazda3 and mazda6

they are completely different cars made by completely different companies with completely different manufacturing processes

[PatrickSponge]

You act schtoopit?

[01RedDX]

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[drewb]

when did anyone actually like sunfires and cavilers?

[m3_powered]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge
You act schtoopit?
Whaaat?


Originally posted by 01RedDX
STFU PatrickSpooge :facepalm:

Please take his advice I'm begging you!

[PatrickSponge]

aww no...It's not fair.

I'm bieng really super cereal and nobody believers me.

Cavaliers were popular at one time. Nobody believes me!

[sr20s14zenki]

^^^This guy is one of the biggest trolls i have seen in awhile. Do a search and look at the rest of his threads. This is a nerd with nothing better to do, ignore him.

PatrickSponge: guy...get a life....do you really honestly have nothing better to do than trollwhore a forum that isnt even near you?


And, to put the final nail in the coffin of this thread, cavaliers and sunfires are usually pieces of shit that are built to die after a certain amount of km (low usually) and get thrown away so you have to buy another car. Mazda on the other hand, like most japanese manufacturers, builds a car to last and give the customer bang for their buck. Every manufacturer has lemons, but i think chev, and chrysler, had far too many with their Cavalier/Sunfire and the Neons.

[PatrickSponge]

Originally posted by sr20s14zenki
^^^This guy is one of the biggest trolls i have seen in awhile. Do a search and look at the rest of his threads. This is a nerd with nothing better to do, ignore him.

PatrickSponge: guy...get a life....do you really honestly have nothing better to do than trollwhore a forum that isnt even near you?


And, to put the final nail in the coffin of this thread, cavaliers and sunfires are usually pieces of shit that are built to die after a certain amount of km (low usually) and get thrown away so you have to buy another car. Mazda on the other hand, like most japanese manufacturers, builds a car to last and give the customer bang for their buck. Every manufacturer has lemons, but i think chev, and chrysler, had far too many with their Cavalier/Sunfire and the Neons.

Get your facts straight before you pinch another loaf.

[atgilchrist]

I think we have a new ultimate post whore!

[PatrickSponge]

Originally posted by atgilchrist
I think we have a new ultimate post whore!

I agree....sr20s14zenki and adam_c are the hooriest of post whores.

[gmoney82]

Congratulations your brain had an opinion and decided it didn't like Mazda's. :clap:

Hey I can't wait to start my own opinion thread and get mad and immature when other people disagree

[em2ab]

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[sr20s14zenki]

Originally posted by PatrickSponge


I agree....sr20s14zenki and adam_c are the hooriest of post whores.

Yah, one difference here bud....i contribute to threads in a meaningful way. I help fellow members out with their car problems, and offer competitive rates for repairs/advice. What do you contribute? Meaningless nonsense IMO.

[Stringz]

Loved My Mazda 3

[wannabelow]

love the wife mazda 6 comfie good on gas got some balls(had a 97 saturn ) tons off room for kids.

i could go on and on about the 6 and y we got it

see tons of 3's but very little 6's

[Proboscis]

From a "tech" side of things. I like working on Mazda's.

[Proboscis]

Mazdas

[berbatov]

Purchased a Mazda Protege (3) for 24500 in 2000 and for 9 years it's been a reliable car