ok im tired of hearing this

[Eric Happy Meal]

or at least without anyone ever explaining it. when you guys say honda has huge aftermarket support, what do you mean? i have yet to see something that has only been offered for hondas.

[thich]

I don't think anyone is implying that there are certain products that are ONLY being offered for hondas (although I'm sure there probably are some products out there solely for Honda).
the term "huge aftermarket support" itself is pointing towards the wide-range of products that are widely-available to the honda enthusiast.

If you were to take another make in comparison, say Nissan (probably a few years back), you would find that Nissan had almost no aftermarket support for its vehicles (particularly the 240SX and limited aftermarket support for the 300ZX) in North America of course...

[nismodrifter]

thich explained it perfectly

there is a large variety of products on the market to choose from which are specific honda applications

[Eric Happy Meal]

i only noticed a big jump in hondas being modded after TFAF, but before that, having am odded honda was unheard of.

[Superesc]

People have been modding hondas for decades.... There's just MORE rice after F&F...

[nismodrifter]

Originally posted by Superesc
People have been modding hondas for decades.... There's just MORE rice after F&F...

:werd:

now...I am sure everybody over the age of 12 here remembers the days of the popular 14-15" ASA 3 spoke :D

[Eric Happy Meal]

well either way what thich said applied to a few years ago, but it doesnt really apply to things nowadays.

[Superesc]

:dunno:

Either way, now or then, there have always been huge aftermarket supports/manufacturers/stocks for Honda.


I can see you don't like hondas, but facts is facts.. don't pick a fight. I like Hondas, but it don't mean I go dissing VWs.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal
well either way what thich said applied to a few years ago, but it doesnt really apply to things nowadays. so?

try finding a good suspension kit for a hyundai elantra..then look for a suspension kit for a civic. the civic has much more selection.

and u are dumb.

[shadowz]

Honda has had a various amount of aftermarket support for many years before "the movie" look at Tein he had a Fully built Turbo charged integra before anyone was into the whole honda craze, while people were still rolling around on chrome wheels with clear taillights, after market support for hondas has been around for a while, its just gotten mainstream in the past couple years

[^SkylinE^]

Eric Happy Meal Are you always just out to pick a fight. Even when someone does explain there point very well you still tell them there stupid? I don't understand your thinking all the time and im sure that alot of people on here don't either? Fast and furious didn't create the after market suport there is for honda's. It has always been there. Its just that people like you watch fugging movies like that and think its the be all end all reason for honda's and all there aftermarket suport. All F & F did was make half the people out there wanna look like flying space ships in the civics. What are you trying to get at ?

[Eric Happy Meal]

im not trying to pick a fight. but do you really need selection? one of them orks better than the rest, so why not not just go with that?

[jdmakkord]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal
im not trying to pick a fight. but do you really need selection? one of them orks better than the rest, so why not not just go with that?

People like variety! Some may work better than the rest, but different combinations of parts equal different results. Results that each owner may prefer over the next guy. To each their own, when it comes to the car you drive, and the mods you do. And to the haters, fuck off.

[jdmmavericktR]

<VW Fox Joke Here>

[Superesc]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal
im not trying to pick a fight. but do you really need selection? one of them orks better than the rest, so why not not just go with that?

If that's the logic then why would we need all these auto manufacturers? We should all be driving MB or Bimmers.

[szw]

More selection, more competition, better products, lower prices.

A turbo kit from my car costs about 3.5-4k USD.

Wish i had a honda.

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by szw
More selection, more competition, better products, lower prices.

A turbo kit from my car costs about 3.5-4k USD.

Wish i had a honda. me too, it sucks when your cars aftermarket support is entirely jdm.

honda support is all over the place, with good shit like relatively cheap rota wheels so ppl dont have to buy expensive mugen wheels..

[Eric Happy Meal]

so i guess im the asshole then.

[SI-vic]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal
so i guess im the asshole then.

that and you're an idiot.

[Illusionsir]

correct me if im wrong, but the main cars in the movie wernt even honda's, right ?!?! i recall a supra, rx-7, eclipse and charger as the main cars.....

[illeagle]

Comptech

[Eric Happy Meal]

well i wasnt really talking in terms of company, but parts they offer. and yes illisioner your right, but not everyone who saw the movie had the cars that were featured so they modded what they had.

[4G63Power]

I don't get what point your trying to make. If your asking why does one company make 5 different styles of exhausts, then ask yourself why Levi's make different styles of jeans. Like it's been said before it's called variety or product mix. Sure they all provide a similar benefit, but they do so at different price points, levels of quality, etc.

[Eric Happy Meal]

no it wasnt that either. but it was shown to me why already.

[thich]

so is your question basically "why the need for so many parts when some are substantially more better than others in quality?"

(well i hope it is b/c i'll take a jab at it)

in terms of the consumer, you have to be able to segment them into their various categories, which would include people of both sexes ranging from the ages of 16 to like 65 (or wutever)... each age group has different economic factors which will affect whether or not they have the (financial) ability to purchase certain things for their vehicles.

Now let's take into consideration that the average joe likes to just sport a low-ride with some nice 17" rims... he will not likely consider buying a set of Teins, JICs etc etc., coilovers... likely the average joe will probably buy some eibachs (or something else) that is more suited to his needs and financial capability.
and he will not likely buy a set of high performance light-weight race rims either.
Now the not so average motorsports competitor may be something of the opposite of the average joe and may require aftermarket products for the exact same vehicle that is of higher quality and build to suit his/her needs that the average joe company may not supply due to their market segmentation.

well that lil blab was just to show that not everyone is out there to buy the BEST quality stuff. and i'm sure a lot of ppl will agree that not every high quality product out there suits their needs and vice versa.
products are offered all across product lines in order to satisfy many segments. it's the easiest way to penetrate the market when you have a large product mix for people to choose from.

IF ppl wanted to buy high quality stuff, they'd get stuff like Mugen, JIC, Zeal, etc. etc. (in terms of JDM tuning... i'm not so sure about Euro tuning)

every aftermarket company out there has a niche and segment they cater to altho some may have broader segments than others.

---

I remember a few years back that you could almost never find anything for the 240SX.. but after Initial D and also the SCC hype, the aftermarket was pushed to exist for the 240 (which is good and bad in some ways)..

take GTSJeff's AE86.... you are still very hard-pressed to find parts for that car since most of the parts are JDM and much of the parts aren't fabricated here. (this is like premium pricing of the products... so the "high quality" stuff that is like offered)

but i remember that hondas have always had huge aftermarket WAY before TFTF.
the market may have been more WIDELY recognized, but it has always existed before that movie.

[Seanith]

no doubt i was modding my car before that movie came out.

[shadowz]

Ok so what the hell was the point of this post anyway? Needing of some attention? All of our comments you have disagreed with. But yet you ask these stupid questions. I dont get it?

[nismodrifter]

Originally posted by shadowz
Ok so what the hell was the point of this post anyway? Needing of some attention? All of our comments you have disagreed with. But yet you ask these stupid questions. I dont get it?

:werd:

[^SkylinE^]

OK HAPPY MEAL Would you like it if everyone in the world drove the same car in the same color with all the same options? Would you like to see everyone with the exact same jeans and same red shirt??? No one wants to look the same or be the same? that is one reason there is so much variety! quite wasteing our time im not even sure why im posting, this is a retarded thread?

[Eric Happy Meal]

Originally posted by ^SkylinE^
OK HAPPY MEAL Would you like it if everyone in the world drove the same car in the same color with all the same options? Would you like to see everyone with the exact same jeans and same red shirt??? No one wants to look the same or be the same? that is one reason there is so much variety! quite wasteing our time im not even sure why im posting, this is a retarded thread?

no that had nothing to do with it you fucking retard. i was asking for the reason behind saying that hondas have tons of aftermarket support, because you can get the same parts that you can for hondas that you can get for different cars. but then the answer to that was brought to my attention. and i dont know why your posting in this thread either, it served no purspose whatsoever on your part.

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal
i only noticed a big jump in hondas being modded after TFAF, but before that, having am odded honda was unheard of.

you probably weren't into to cars until after TFAF it seems.
modified Hondas have been popular for years and years before TFAF was even thought of.

[Eric Happy Meal]

not really, i was mostly into the car companies that my dad worked for at the time (VW, Porsche, Audi, and BMW) and old muscle cars.

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by thich
so is your question basically &quot;why the need for so many parts when some are substantially more better than others in quality?&quot;

(well i hope it is b/c i'll take a jab at it)

in terms of the consumer, you have to be able to segment them into their various categories, which would include people of both sexes ranging from the ages of 16 to like 65 (or wutever)... each age group has different economic factors which will affect whether or not they have the (financial) ability to purchase certain things for their vehicles.

Now let's take into consideration that the average joe likes to just sport a low-ride with some nice 17&quot; rims... he will not likely consider buying a set of Teins, JICs etc etc., coilovers... likely the average joe will probably buy some eibachs (or something else) that is more suited to his needs and financial capability.
and he will not likely buy a set of high performance light-weight race rims either.
Now the not so average motorsports competitor may be something of the opposite of the average joe and may require aftermarket products for the exact same vehicle that is of higher quality and build to suit his/her needs that the average joe company may not supply due to their market segmentation.

well that lil blab was just to show that not everyone is out there to buy the BEST quality stuff. and i'm sure a lot of ppl will agree that not every high quality product out there suits their needs and vice versa.
products are offered all across product lines in order to satisfy many segments. it's the easiest way to penetrate the market when you have a large product mix for people to choose from.

IF ppl wanted to buy high quality stuff, they'd get stuff like Mugen, JIC, Zeal, etc. etc. (in terms of JDM tuning... i'm not so sure about Euro tuning)

every aftermarket company out there has a niche and segment they cater to altho some may have broader segments than others.

---

I remember a few years back that you could almost never find anything for the 240SX.. but after Initial D and also the SCC hype, the aftermarket was pushed to exist for the 240 (which is good and bad in some ways)..

take GTSJeff's AE86.... you are still very hard-pressed to find parts for that car since most of the parts are JDM and much of the parts aren't fabricated here. (this is like premium pricing of the products... so the &quot;high quality&quot; stuff that is like offered)

but i remember that hondas have always had huge aftermarket WAY before TFTF.
the market may have been more WIDELY recognized, but it has always existed before that movie.

you're a smart dude!
*hats off*

[Wildcat]

Originally posted by shadowz
Ok so what the hell was the point of this post anyway? Needing of some attention? All of our comments you have disagreed with. But yet you ask these stupid questions. I dont get it?

agreed.


sorry im just whorin' through.... this guy usually makes the most incomparably idiotic posts that borderline on clinical retardation... this thread is no different..

but its always worth a good chuckle! :thumbsup:

[Skyline_Addict]

Originally posted by Wildcat


agreed.


sorry im just whorin' through.... this guy usually makes the most incomparably idiotic posts that borderline on clinical retardation... this thread is no different..

but its always worth a good chuckle! :thumbsup:

hey go a little easy on the yankee, EH!

[V_boy]

This is the same guy who doesn't think 400hp is impressive..... go figure!

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal


no that had nothing to do with it you fucking retard. i was asking for the reason behind saying that hondas have tons of aftermarket support, because you can get the same parts that you can for hondas that you can get for different cars. but then the answer to that was brought to my attention. and i dont know why your posting in this thread either, it served no purspose whatsoever on your part. dont call other ppl "fucking retards". have some respect.

[shadowz]

This is probably going to be my last post in this thread, but after reading this a couple times you're just contradicting yourself, maybe you should read what you said. Once again it makes no sence

[thich]

Originally posted by Skyline_Addict


you're a smart dude!
*hats off*

haha, thanx.
basic marketing principles - nothing hard actually.

[Cam]

Another thing to consider is a company's point of view: If you're going to develop and manufacture parts, you want to be able to sell them to the largest possible group of people out there. In this case, that's gonna be Honda/Acura owners.

Flip through an import mag and you'll see ads from small companies who offer their product for 'most Honda/Acura applications' or 'Civic and Integra platforms' before they offer anything else.

[thich]

this is true only in the context of North America but is also becoming less true as well.

in terms of profit, you don't have to sell the most quantity to achieve projected sales goals.
hitting the honda market will definitely achieve the quantity goal for sure though.

Not all companies are out there to get rich through quantity sales profits; if you look at companies such as Spoon, Tomei, STi (for example), their objective is to sell their products but at a premium price.

however though, like you said, hondas still have the largest aftermarket support here in North America.
honda's most profitable aftermarket-supported vehicles were its mid-90's civics, it's '90-'00ish preludes, 3rd gen integras.
the RSX is probably beginning to see more market share now in terms of products available to it.
however what i see as a problem will be what will honda (and the subsequent aftermarket companies) do when these older hondas get.. well, older? the question that will be asked then is whether or not it will be profitable to stick to supplying parts for an old car.

this also begs another question: what happens to the ppl who were modifying the hondas back in the mid 90s? they are definitely older NOW as well as are probably looking into different cars to fit their tastes and pocket change as well - do these companies just give up on their (probably largest and most earliest customers? probably not a smart business move...)

i think we will see a change in the next few years in terms of aftermarket support in that the older hondas will begin to have less and less support (but not non-existent i'm sure) and we will see nissan and as well as more of the newer cars having more support.

[Ebbsvette]

ok this will be my only post on this thread....but

what are you talking about? have you not looked through any mag. and seen all the support for hondas/acuras? i drive a vette so its not like i go around looking for honda parts but damn, they are everywhere in so many different forms and a wide selection of prices. Somtimes i wish i had a honda....well....not really....wish i had the selection that hondas have tho.......a honda is like a 350 motor.....u can get parts out the arse for it.....(being you know about muscle cars so your bound to know of the amount of products for a 350)

yall guys pretty much explained it tho....just had to throw in my opinion

[Eric Happy Meal]

i never contradicted myself in this thread once! the whole time i was asking the same question. i asked a different one in the middle of it all, and then i figured it out. how is that contradicting myself?

and yes i know there are companys that specialize in only honda parts, but i never said that was what i was talking about. you guys just assumed that was what i was talking about.

and jeff, i overeacted there, but i mean its expected of everyone to be a little pissed off after somebody reads what you said, misinterprets it, and then makes fun of you for it. and after it happening throughout this entire thread, i just went off on him for attacking me over it. and he essentially called me a retard in his post, but i guess it shows respect because he didnt say it directly right?

[three.eighteen.]

Originally posted by GTS Jeff
dont call other ppl &quot;fucking retards&quot;. have some respect.

you call other ppl fucking retards and you have no respect for anyone...only difference between him and you is you know the URLs to all the JDM engine code pages and other sites that form the majority of your automotive knowledge, and you've trolled beyond for probably a good few years more

[boi-alien]

hondas have always had a huge aftermarket support. people were driving modded hondas WAY before TFATF ever came out.

[sin]

i only noticed a big jump in hondas being modded after TFAF, but before that, having am odded honda was unheard of.


you were 13 when it came out, how big of a difference could you have possibly noticed?

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by Eric Happy Meal
and jeff, i overeacted there, but i mean its expected of everyone to be a little pissed off after somebody reads what you said, misinterprets it, and then makes fun of you for it. and after it happening throughout this entire thread, i just went off on him for attacking me over it. and he essentially called me a retard in his post, but i guess it shows respect because he didnt say it directly right? its kinda childish to point fingers and say "he did it first", doncha think? all im sayin is that u should chill and keep the personal attacks to ask leo :D


Originally posted by three.eighteen.


you call other ppl fucking retards and you have no respect for anyone...only difference between him and you is you know the URLs to all the JDM engine code pages and other sites that form the majority of your automotive knowledge, and you've trolled beyond for probably a good few years more bang on! :rolleyes:

:thumbsup: for being completely wrong on all accounts! if u feel the need to "flame" me, please "flame" me somewhere other than a on thread about honda aftermarket support. try ask leo?

[thich]

wow... now that's a first isn't it Jeff?

Jeff and I were one of the first batch of beyonders when we all moved from ABcars :P
what memories... what ever happened to the beastmobile?

[Eric Happy Meal]

whats "ask leo"??

[Double0Civic]

Getting back to the original topic, Honda DOES have products that are specifically for it, ie. Mugen, Spoon. both of those companies specifically produce parts for honda/acura.

My 2 pennies.

[Kor]

One problem with the honda market is I think you need to shop smarter. Aftermarket support has been around a long time, so there is also a lot of crap out there, people trying to rip you off, etc. Maybe thats just me, I don't know shizzle.

[lammer]

would you like some fries with that eric?

[Eric Happy Meal]

i thought i was supposed to be asking?

[lammer]

or do you want a happy meal toy?

[^SkylinE^]

I guess im a fucking reatard .... i never knew ......Thanks happy meal boy for the eye opener! :banghead: :guns:

[GTS Jeff]

Originally posted by thich
wow... now that's a first isn't it Jeff?

Jeff and I were one of the first batch of beyonders when we all moved from ABcars :P
what memories... what ever happened to the beastmobile? haha my parents are having trouble selling it :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: