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urban.one
05-20-2009, 02:46 PM
Date: Wed May 20 13:15:00 2009
Subject: PA/MRU #09-287 TELEPHONE SCAM WARNING
From: Emma Poole

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CITYBEAT - CITY OF CALGARY PRESS RELEASE
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The Calgary Police Service is urging all Calgarians to be
wary of suspicious phone calls after at least four local
business owners received threats and demands of money through
a virtually untraceable VoIP (Voice over Internet Protocol)
telephone call.

In each offence, a Mandarin-speaking business owner received
VoIP calls from a Mandarin-speaking man threatening to harm
their family if large sums of money were not wired to an
account in China.

The first report to Calgary police was made at approximately
11 a.m., today, Wednesday, May 20, 2009. Several other North
American cities, including Edmonton, Vancouver and Toronto,
have had reports of a similar scam. The investigation to date
indicates that the threats are unsubstantiated and that the
phone calls are a hoax.

No Calgarians are known to have sent money to this account.

If you receive a threatening telephone call in any language:

- Contact police immediately;
- Record the caller ID information and details of the call;
- Do not provide or confirm personal information; and
- Do not send money or give financial information.

Anyone who receives a suspicious call in any language should
contact police immediately at 403-266-1234 or Crime Stoppers
at 1-800-222-8477.

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Public Email Contact:

[email protected]

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ZenOps
05-20-2009, 03:07 PM
New target using an old scheme.

Don't these people know that Chinese hackers are some of the best in the world. They will be able to trace that Voip and probably the wire as well. English are more civilized - and will simply try to track money movements for arrest and conviction later.

True Chinese gangsters or anyone with any sort of connection would have a pufferfish $100 bill hand delivered to anyone who dares threaten them or especially family.

Russians tend to like radiation and Hepatitis for blackmail payments. Mexicans will just pee in your beer if you really do something bad (again, hepatitis)

These scammers are obviously very desperate, or very very stupid.

TomcoPDR
05-20-2009, 03:08 PM
Originally posted by ZenOps
New target using an old scheme.

Don't these people know that Chinese hackers are some of the best in the world. They will be able to trace that Voip and probably the wire as well.

True Chinese gangsters or anyone with any sort of connection would have a pufferfish $100 bill hand delivered to anyone who dares threaten them or especially family.

These scammers are obviously very desperate, or very very stupid.

Any suspicion on Rob Anders and his crew?

ZenOps
05-20-2009, 03:18 PM
I wouldn't put it past Rob Anders, as I don't think he'd be smart enough to realize how much fire and brimstone that would bring down upon him and everyone around him.

Maybe a hired bunch of expendable brainless underlings who don't realize what they are getting into - thats always possible.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1m6jz_southparkoperationhumanshield_fun

But this definitely sounds like some teens or 20 somethings who are so drugged up they are desperate to get their hands on money. Maybe some Chinese speaking Nigerian princes - who knows. When in comes to family though - Chinese don't play by the law (at least not to my knowledge) vendettas run deeper than Italians showing up at the door with guns.

Technically, only the US federal govt is allowed to do a Voip tap or a wire trace when its a matter of national security (IE: stealing million dollar cars would not be considered a breach of national security) - But Chinese hackers (or hackers of any nationality) are not under that jurisdiction - and pretty well do it all the time. Crooks are often not aware that the US govt and police force have far less ability than anyone else - because they have to play fair and by the books (obtain evidence in a legally responsible manner)

Its only slightly more difficult to order up a wire trace than it is to buy a pirate dvd. Crooks (and likewise racist politicians) are idiots if they use wires and/or voip.

OT: *Slaps Rob Anders in the back of the head* Rob, if you're gonna do more illegal stuff - at least do it the smart way - use cash like Mulroney and you might have an outside chance of getting away with it.

googe
05-20-2009, 06:47 PM
Originally posted by TomcoPDR


Any suspicion on Rob Anders and his crew?

:rofl:

Xtrema
05-20-2009, 07:28 PM
Some one in Toronto fell for this.

blackteg2
05-20-2009, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by ZenOps
New target using an old scheme.

Don't these people know that Chinese hackers are some of the best in the world. They will be able to trace that Voip and probably the wire as well. English are more civilized - and will simply try to track money movements for arrest and conviction later.

True Chinese gangsters or anyone with any sort of connection would have a pufferfish $100 bill hand delivered to anyone who dares threaten them or especially family.

Russians tend to like radiation and Hepatitis for blackmail payments. Mexicans will just pee in your beer if you really do something bad (again, hepatitis)

These scammers are obviously very desperate, or very very stupid.


:facepalm:

JRSC00LUDE
05-20-2009, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by ZenOps
New target using an old scheme.

Don't these people know that Chinese hackers are some of the best in the world. They will be able to trace that Voip and probably the wire as well. English are more civilized - and will simply try to track money movements for arrest and conviction later.

True Chinese gangsters or anyone with any sort of connection would have a pufferfish $100 bill hand delivered to anyone who dares threaten them or especially family.

Russians tend to like radiation and Hepatitis for blackmail payments. Mexicans will just pee in your beer if you really do something bad (again, hepatitis)

These scammers are obviously very desperate, or very very stupid.

Here we go again. STFU tinhat.

Subwoofah
05-20-2009, 07:57 PM
If they're able to hack sensitive data (pentagon, FBI etc) or cause a disruption in another country, they are tagged as patriotic hackers and hired by the government.

Chinese hackers are graduated WOW farmers. Its just another way of farming for that gold.

DayGlow
05-20-2009, 08:31 PM
If ZenOps really believes what he posts wouldn't he not post since the people involved would be able to track him and shut him up because he knows the truth?

Subwoofah
05-21-2009, 11:07 PM
Originally posted by DayGlow
If ZenOps really believes what he posts wouldn't he not post since the people involved would be able to track he and shut him up because he knows the truth?

Its more likely that ILL be tracked.