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buh_buh
05-20-2009, 05:22 PM
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Remember guys practice at Monaco (as per usual) is thursday instead of friday. This is arguably the most coveted race on the calendar. The Monaco Grand Prix is the one race of the year that every driver dreams of winning. Like the Indy 500 or Le Mans, it stands alone, almost distinct from the sport from which it was born. A combination of precision driving, technical excellence and sheer bravery is required to win in Monte Carlo, facets which highlight the differences between the great and the good in Formula One.

The Armco barrier-lined circuit leaves no margin for error, demanding more concentration that any other Formula One track. Cars run with maximum downforce and brakes are worked hard. Overtaking is next to impossible so qualifying in Monaco is more critical than at any other Grand Prix.

The Portier corner is key to achieving a good lap time around Monaco. It is preceded by the Loews hairpin, the slowest corner in Formula One, and followed by the tunnel, one of the few flat-out sections of the track. Some great names have ended their races in the barriers here, most notably Ayrton Senna and Michael Schumacher.

To win in Monaco places a driver's name on a list that includes many of history's all-time greats. Both Graham Hill, the man nicknamed 'Mr Monaco', and Schumacher have won it five times, Alain Prost took four victories, whilst Stirling Moss and Jackie Stewart each won here three times. But the record of wins in the Principality resides with the Senna, who won in Monte Carlo six times.

The race has been a regular fixture of the world championship since 1955, but in that time the circuit has changed remarkably little. Slight alterations were made for the 2003 event, in particular a new, gentler entry to the Rascasse corner, with even bigger changes in 2004, with a new pit complex and increased spectator capacity.

Weekend Preview
The biggest racing feast of the year is upon us! Sunday, May 24th, we have the Monaco Grand Prix for breakfast, the Indianapolis 500 for lunch, and the Coca-Cola 600 for dinner. Sadly, the big news for all three will be how will they find the money to survive?

Formula 1 travels to Monaco with the May 29th deadline for 2010 entries looming. Ferrari and Renault have said they will not participate if the FIA sticks with its new voluntary budget cap plus technical freedom rules. On the other hand, some prospective teams have said they will enter F1 under those rules. It wouldn’t be surprising if some of the other marginal teams choose to drop out if there is no budget cap. Ferrari has gone so far as to sue the FIA in a French court. A ruling is expected on Wednesday, May 20th. I guarantee that won’t be the end of the story.

Monaco is old school motor racing. It’s dangerous. If it weren’t Monaco, they wouldn’t dream about racing on this track. Every year they talk about why it isn’t safe to race here and then go do it anyway. It still inspires video games, with its tunnel, casino and fountain, impossibly tight corners, and the run along the gigantic yachts in the harbour. Drivers want to win this race, maybe even more than winning the World Championship itself.

It’s glamorous, as no other race ever could be or ever will be. Monaco is about spectacle, about seeing and being seen. Celebrities that don’t seem to care much about racing miraculously appear for this race. Lots of them. Local hotels that are outrageously expensive the rest of the year become obscene for the week of the Grand Prix. In 2004, the Jaguar cars carried Steinmetz diamonds as part of a promotion for the soon-to-be released Ocean’s Twelve movie. One diamond was lost after a crash and I don’t believe it was ever recovered. This year, Steinmetz will once again put diamonds safely (?) in the helmets of McLaren’s Lewis Hamilton and Heikki Kovalainen, instead of in the nose cones of the cars. The yachts in the harbour are unbelievable. Several rival the technical sophistication and operating budgets of even the biggest teams.

Formula 1 is known as the series with little passing and Monaco is the prime example. You have to qualify at the front if you want to win. Yet it is far from boring! It’s a brutally difficult track to drive around, even without other cars. There are a few overtaking opportunities, if you’re willing to risk your life, and every year a few drivers do.

The big story, on track at least, will again be whether anyone can compete with Brawn. Red Bull seems oh-so-close and Toyota has shown signs now and then. The subplot will be whether Brawn can compete with itself. After years playing a supporting role to Michael Schumacher, Reubens Barrichello is adamant that he will not be Jenson Button’s understudy. The sub-subplot will be how much longer Brawn can go without a major sponsor.

Track stats

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Laps 78
Circuit length 3.340 km (2.075 mi)
Race length 260.520 km (161.887 mi)
Number of times held 66
First held 1929
Last held 2008
Most wins (drivers) Ayrton Senna (6)
Most wins (constructors) McLaren (15)
Lap Record: 1:14.439 - M Schumacher (2004)

2008 results

https://blog.so-net.ne.jp/_images/blog/_b96/Peugeot/monaco_gp.jpg

Pole position: Felipe Massa Ferrari 1:15.787
Podium:
1. Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 2h 00m 42.742s (126.170 km/h)
2. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber +3.064s
3. Felipe Massa Ferrari +4.811s

Fastest lap
Kimi Räikkönen Ferrari 1:16.689

Previous Winners

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2008 Lewis Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes
2007 Fernando Alonso McLaren-Mercedes
2006 Fernando Alonso Renault
2005 Kimi Räikkönen McLaren-Mercedes
2004 Jarno Trulli Renault
2003 Juan Pablo Montoya Williams-BMW

Weather
Strong sunshine and clear conditions are the order of the day on Thursday. The morning practice should take place with clear skies. We may see one or two light clouds dotted around towards the end of the afternoon session, but mainly clear skies are expected with a top temperature of 25 degrees Celsius.

Friday is set for a repeat performance as the support categories enjoy the track to themselves.

The settled theme continues on Saturday. Dry and mainly sunny conditions are expected, with a touch more cloud around than on Thursday and Friday. The maximum temperature will reach 23 degrees by qualifying time.

Earlier this week, we mentioned the possibility of some light rain moving in from Spain for race day. On Tuesday, that threat increased for a time in the forecast data. However, the forecasts have settled down over the last 24 hours, leading to the prediction of a dry race.

On Sunday, there will be a bit more cloud cover around than on the previous three days, with temperatures reaching 24 Celsius.

Tomorrow, the teams and drivers will take to the streets for two 90-minute sessions of practice. AUTOSPORT Live will be following their every move. Our Thursday coverage begins at 07:45 GMT.

Team_Mclaren
05-20-2009, 05:30 PM
im cheering for Vettel and hoping for button to take himself out. :rofl:

Chandler_Racing
05-20-2009, 05:33 PM
One day I'm going to see this race is person.

Can't wait for the weekend though, it will be nice to see them Brawn cars give Mclaren and Ferrari the punt :)

DJ Lazy
05-20-2009, 06:33 PM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing
One day I'm going to see this race is person.

Can't wait for the weekend though, it will be nice to see them Brawn cars give Mclaren and Ferrari the punt :)

Don't count your chickens before they hatch.... Mclaren expect to be strong in Monaco.. ;)

Mibz
05-20-2009, 06:56 PM
Mechanical grip is used more in, I believe, the majority of corners and I've read that suspension is more important than downforce on this course. Of course the drivers should be the ones who decide it.

Anybody know if Rage is in town for it? Somebody else hosting? I don't really wanna watch this by myself :P

Trini
05-20-2009, 06:56 PM
looking forward to this!!

does the race starts 6am?

DJ Lazy
05-20-2009, 08:42 PM
Originally posted by Mibz
Mechanical grip is used more in, I believe, the majority of corners and I've read that suspension is more important than downforce on this course. Of course the drivers should be the ones who decide it.

Anybody know if Rage is in town for it? Somebody else hosting? I don't really wanna watch this by myself :P

Your welcome to come over to my place..:thumbsup:


Originally posted by Trini
looking forward to this!!

does the race starts 6am?

Yea, 6am start.

Mibz
05-20-2009, 09:01 PM
PM me your info Josh. Thanks.

tawheed
05-20-2009, 10:34 PM
I did a motorcycle trip and got to ride some parts of the monaco "circuit" - was pretty sweet and an amazing location :)

RickDaTuner
05-20-2009, 10:46 PM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing
One day I'm going to see this race is person.

Can't wait for the weekend though, it will be nice to see them Brawn cars give Mclaren and Ferrari the punt :)

I've been there during Formula 1, its so surreal when the cars are running, they echo off every building, you can even hear them if you are in an underground parkade.
Then the whole sovereign state comes together, The Ferrari haters out there would be pretty miffed though, 30% of the general population drive one...
Absolutely the best race venue on the calender:thumbsup:

rage2
05-21-2009, 01:38 AM
I've already figured out where I'm watching this. At some Indian bar with 5 or 6 Force India fans that I found here :rofl:.

So ya, I won't be in town :).

rage2
05-21-2009, 07:35 AM
McLaren is playing around at the top of the timesheets for FP1 and FP2. Hamilton very consistent up at the top. Rosberg takes 1st for FP2 tho with yet another Williams low fuel FP run :).

Expect fastest lap of the weekend to be in the 1:14.6 zone... if it doesn't rain :).

Chandler_Racing
05-21-2009, 08:55 AM
Originally posted by RickDaTuner


I've been there during Formula 1, its so surreal when the cars are running, they echo off every building, you can even hear them if you are in an underground parkade.
Then the whole sovereign state comes together, The Ferrari haters out there would be pretty miffed though, 30% of the general population drive one...
Absolutely the best race venue on the calender:thumbsup:

Always wanted to go, so I priced it out this year. $10,000 for two people at the fairmount + race tickets + food :eek:

When my wages double, I will take the hit. Until then watching it on the big screen is the best I can do.

ICEBERG
05-22-2009, 07:19 AM
My old man is at the race this weekend. They are doing a european trip to see family and friends.

He phones me yesterday " Hey you coming to the race".

I wanted to say screw off dad but all i could say was " No, stuck at work. You and mom have a good time".

Tickes for both of them where close to 1100 euros. They also have bunch of friends to watch the race. I HATE RETIRED PEOPLE..:D

cheers,

Mibz
05-22-2009, 11:48 AM
Looks like I'll be fishing for this so I won't be coming over Josh, thanks though.

DJ Lazy
05-22-2009, 04:46 PM
Originally posted by Mibz
Looks like I'll be fishing for this so I won't be coming over Josh, thanks though.

Fishing???? Booooooooooooo!!! ;)

rage2
05-23-2009, 06:32 AM
:(

Go Kovy?

rage2
05-23-2009, 06:48 AM
Originally posted by rage2
Expect fastest lap of the weekend to be in the 1:14.6 zone... if it doesn't rain :).
Kimi 1:14.514 what a fucking amazing lap!

Wow, Q2, Ferrari and McLaren up at the top. It's too bad Hamilton crashed, he had the car to score a pole here this weekend IMO.

rage2
05-23-2009, 07:07 AM
Button again, doesn't do a lap all weekend till the one that counts haha.

Trini
05-23-2009, 07:33 AM
button on pole
kimmi second
Barrichello third

Chandler_Racing
05-23-2009, 10:12 AM
Originally posted by DJ Lazy


Don't count your chickens before they hatch.... Mclaren expect to be strong in Monaco.. ;)

I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of Hamilton and Kovi's back end stepping out.

P16 and P7 does not appear to be as "strong in Monaco... ;)" as you seem to have thought.

I also hope you understand the significance of having pole there.

ryanallan
05-23-2009, 11:08 AM
Wow another great qualifying from Button.
And finally a Ferrari on the front row !!

ryanallan
05-23-2009, 11:16 AM
here is Ferrari's front wing development
in the third wing you can really see them searching for down force

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/289/118649.jpg (http://img23.imageshack.us/my.php?image=118649.jpg)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/9899/d09esp354.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d09esp354.jpg)

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1537/d09mon42.jpg (http://img196.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d09mon42.jpg)

ryanallan
05-23-2009, 11:26 AM
new McLaren wing

http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/2126/239429.jpg (http://img40.imageshack.us/my.php?image=239429.jpg)

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/3121/f12009monxp0639.jpg (http://img36.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009monxp0639.jpg)

and McLaren diffuser development

old
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/8047/d09chn226.jpg (http://img43.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d09chn226.jpg)

new
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/3133/126491.jpg (http://img41.imageshack.us/my.php?image=126491.jpg)

http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/821/126526.jpg (http://img194.imageshack.us/my.php?image=126526.jpg)

ryanallan
05-23-2009, 11:37 AM
new BMW wing

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6831/diapo628.jpg (http://img33.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diapo628.jpg)

Brawn mirror and rear wheel shield updates

old shields
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/3554/f12009ausxp0359.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009ausxp0359.jpg)

can see the new shields here, they kinda look like Toyota's
http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/2443/f12009monxp0462.jpg (http://img132.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009monxp0462.jpg)

old mirrors
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/5750/f12009ausxp0809.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009ausxp0809.jpg)

can see the new mirrors in this one
http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/7383/f12009monxp0531.jpg (http://img42.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009monxp0531.jpg)

ryanallan
05-23-2009, 11:43 AM
and finally a new rear wing and DD diffuser for RedBull
the rear wing just has a slot where the engine cover meets the wing.
this DDD is different looking from all the others, so its kinda tricky to see how it works
http://www.f1technical.net/development/248

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/903/f12009monxp0551.jpg (http://img38.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009monxp0551.jpg)

old
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9210/diapoa633j.jpg

new
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/5594/f12009monxp0307.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009monxp0307.jpg)

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/3730/f12009monxp0396.jpg (http://img29.imageshack.us/my.php?image=f12009monxp0396.jpg)

rage2
05-23-2009, 12:44 PM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing
I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of Hamilton and Kovi's back end stepping out.

P16 and P7 does not appear to be as "strong in Monaco... ;)" as you seem to have thought.

I also hope you understand the significance of having pole there.
Ya, the MP4-24 was definately strong enough for a front row qualifying effort in the hands of Hamilton today. It's too bad he lost it down the hill. Crap shoot in Monaco, spin and it could be something simple as a front wing, or a completely destroyed rear suspension. :(

Inzane
05-23-2009, 03:37 PM
Go Kimi!!!! :clap:

buh_buh
05-23-2009, 04:47 PM
I don't know if Button was just sandbagging all weekend or how the hell he pulled that lap out of his ass, but what a great lap. Kimi great lap too.

WTF BMW and Toyota out in Q1?? Toyota locks out the front row but blows a win in Bahrain and now they've locked out back row? Something's gotta be up with their wind tunnel or something. The BMW fall seems very Honda-esque

arian_ma
05-23-2009, 05:48 PM
BUTTON!!!!
Man I am loving the Brawn team right now.

DJ Lazy
05-23-2009, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Chandler_Racing


I thoroughly enjoyed every minute of Hamilton and Kovi's back end stepping out.

P16 and P7 does not appear to be as "strong in Monaco... ;)" as you seem to have thought.

I also hope you understand the significance of having pole there.


:rofl: :rofl: .... Take it easy man.. Mclaren definitely have a competitive car in Monaco, and Hami would have had a good chance at Pole...

Chandler_Racing
05-23-2009, 11:00 PM
Originally posted by DJ Lazy



:rofl: :rofl: .... Take it easy man.. Mclaren definitely have a competitive car in Monaco, and Hami would have had a good chance at Pole...

I'm just trying to even the playing field... :rofl:

You don't understand how much torment I took from the Ferrari and Mclaren band camps being a Honda fan... :guns:

Team_Mclaren
05-24-2009, 12:19 AM
all these honda fanboys jumping on the Brawn bandwagon, pfft.

having said that, Button did pull a perfect lap outta his ass, he's fueled pretty heavy too.

DJ Lazy
05-24-2009, 06:26 AM
WTF is Rosberg doing in 1st... :rofl: My pool picks are gonna be all over the place today.. :nut:

Vagabond142
05-24-2009, 07:13 AM
Button = great driver. Always been a fan, and I'm not a bandwagoner. I actually have always followed Button, just love how he drives... smooth and aggressive

Trini
05-24-2009, 07:57 AM
congrats to button and brawn gp
good to see ferrari up there at last

Mibz
05-24-2009, 10:23 AM
Damn, I really needed a big day in the pool to make up for last week. *sigh* Gonna be an uphill battle.

ryanallan
05-24-2009, 10:34 AM
Finally a Ferrari podium !

Wont be long until they start challenging for wins

Team_Mclaren
05-24-2009, 10:51 AM
fouth second place finish in Monaco for Ruben...:facepalm:

Vagabond142
05-24-2009, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by ryanallan
Finally a Ferrari podium !

Wont be long until they start challenging for wins :bullshit:



:poosie: :D

Inzane
05-24-2009, 12:25 PM
Originally posted by ryanallan
Finally a Ferrari podium !

Wont be long until they start challenging for wins

x2. :clap: :clap: :thumbsup: :werd:

Cos
05-24-2009, 12:26 PM
good race although my team had a crappy weekend. Although it pains me to say it, good drive by Ferrari.

Also +47 points bitches!

rage2
05-24-2009, 12:27 PM
+47 for me too. You fuckers in the lead are hauling ass on points. :(

ryanallan
05-24-2009, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by Vagabond142
:bullshit:



:poosie: :D
lol good one

DJ Lazy
05-24-2009, 04:14 PM
Originally posted by rage2
+47 for me too. You fuckers in the lead are hauling ass on points. :(

Doesn't help when we got Trini who is 13th for the whole website... LOL Kovy and Vettel screwed up alot of people this weekend too.. at least they did for me.. Then again I didn't count on Webber staying in the top 8... :facepalm:

Cos
05-24-2009, 04:17 PM
Originally posted by DJ Lazy


Doesn't help when we got Trini who is 13th for the whole website... LOL Kovy and Vettel screwed up alot of people this weekend too.. at least they did for me.. Then again I didn't count on Webber staying in the top 8... :facepalm:

yeah I had them

Trini
05-24-2009, 04:39 PM
Originally posted by DJ Lazy


Doesn't help when we got Trini who is 13th for the whole website...

:bigpimp:
we'll see how long I can sustain this

DJ Lazy
05-24-2009, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by Trini


:bigpimp:
we'll see how long I can sustain this

It's impressive (and maybe luck... haha) there are 5295 players...