View Full Version : My take on the new subaru wrx sti
zordonsmackmast
05-29-2009, 12:29 AM
hey guys im pretty new to beyond but i have to say its an all around great site, now i figure i might as well try and contribute. I've been looking alot at the new sti and its such an interesting car; we can all agree its not exactly pretty but im quite a big fan of it. im not sure how well this is going to be taken but IMO i think it looks way better without the spoiler on the back.
heavyD
05-29-2009, 10:16 AM
My take is your take needs to be more than just a comment on the rear spoiler to make it worthy of a thread.
benyl
05-29-2009, 10:20 AM
Did you expect more?
403Gemini
05-29-2009, 10:22 AM
Originally posted by heavyD
My take is your take needs to be more than just a comment on the rear spoiler to make it worthy of a thread.
^^This :rofl:
If the spoiler is make or break for the car... just get a base model
chkolny541
05-29-2009, 12:54 PM
creep more.
post less.
911fever
05-29-2009, 01:41 PM
Originally posted by chkolny541
creep more.
post less.
hahaha harsh, Nikita
Dumbass17
05-29-2009, 01:46 PM
new sti = effin ugly
bundi
05-29-2009, 02:57 PM
omgz now this is a topic I can sink my teeth into!
+1 for ban.
New STI's are ugly, but still totally functional and awesome.. unlike this thread.
CivicDXR
05-29-2009, 04:32 PM
it took me a while for the new hatch body style to grow on me, but it did... look what I'm driving now. :D Granted, its no STI, but its almost as fun...
max_boost
05-29-2009, 04:35 PM
STi has too much going on, prefer the 265 hatch. :thumbsup:
Didn't like it when it first came out, but I think they look great now. But I'm a Subaru fan boy, so I'm somewhat biased...
speeed
05-29-2009, 05:52 PM
^ i have to agree, they've grown onto me too
kevie88
05-30-2009, 12:15 AM
I hate them. STI's are terrible.
Originally posted by kevie88
I hate them. STI's are terrible.
Me too. I wish they made the new ones without spoilers.
kevie88
05-30-2009, 12:24 AM
Spoilers are baaad mkay?
They've grown onto me as well, much like everyone else :)
Originally posted by kevie88
I hate them. STI's are terrible.
:rofl:
B4tMan
05-30-2009, 01:24 AM
while handling is one of the best in its class, price is too much for the value one is getting
speeed
05-30-2009, 01:29 AM
Originally posted by kevie88
I hate them. STI's are terrible.
haha coming from a guy who owns 2 sti's
Kloubek
05-30-2009, 01:33 AM
Excellent first post. Very thought-provoking. Well written and extremely insightful. I can only hope for similar repeat postings to come....
However, while on the topic, I think the new WRX/STi look is much nicer than the old rally car look. Of course, the original appearance is what drew some people to the car with the performance of a rally car in mind. But to me, they were just plain ugly.
With that said, they certainly were not mainstream when they came out. Now that they are somewhat, I think they've lost some of their identity.
Still, of course, a formidable vehicle. Its just a shame they didn't boost the STi performance a little more to make the higher pricetag more worthwhile over the WRX.
dino_martini
05-30-2009, 01:36 AM
I saw about 3 new STi's tonight, and I think they look really good. Gold rims make the STi.
Perfect Dark
05-30-2009, 07:24 AM
Originally posted by kevie88
I hate them. STI's are terrible.
Couldn't agree more.
psycoticclown
05-30-2009, 09:51 AM
Those damn pesky STi's... think they're hot shit :rolleyes:
pinoyhero
05-30-2009, 09:55 AM
Love the Sti and wrx, this will sound weird but I wish they came auto so wifey could drive when needed.
Originally posted by pinoyhero
Love the Sti and wrx, this will sound weird but I wish they came auto so wifey could drive when needed.
I agree. Would have seriously considered it but my wife doesn't drive standard.
heavyD
05-31-2009, 06:31 PM
Originally posted by pinoyhero
Love the Sti and wrx, this will sound weird but I wish they came auto so wifey could drive when needed.
I believe there will be a STI w/5-speed automatic available for 2010. It's the 5-speed auto from the Legacy and not a twin clutch unit such as the DSG or TC-SST which is disappointing.
BlackArcher101
05-31-2009, 06:47 PM
The new style has finally grown on me. HOWEVER, it only looks good with the addition of a roof scoop/air vent.
V6-BoI
05-31-2009, 07:31 PM
I wasn't a big fan of the new STi, but they have grown on me. I'm digging the new hatch back look.
yoda124
05-31-2009, 07:48 PM
40k for the base model sti :bullshit:
psycoticclown
05-31-2009, 07:57 PM
^^ :facepalm: What price should it start at? 30k? :nut: You can even get it loaded for 45k... and nothing comes close to it at the 40k range with the exception of the Evo... which is the same price base. Hell, you pay more than 45k for a base Challanger and the STi will drive laps around it.
Originally posted by yoda124
40k for the base model sti :bullshit:
:nut:
Originally posted by psycoticclown
^^ :facepalm: What price should it start at? 30k? :nut: You can even get it loaded for 45k... and nothing comes close to it at the 40k range with the exception of the Evo... which is the same price base. Hell, you pay more than 45k for a base Challanger and the STi will drive laps around it.
:werd:
4doorj
05-31-2009, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by yoda124
40k for the base model sti :bullshit:
Sounds like a really good deal to me:thumbsup:
Especially since the older ones started at 50k before
*edit* Wait a minute. I forgot your post might of been sarcasm just like everything else in this thread. :banghead:
I'm feel dumb right now.
bigboom
05-31-2009, 10:27 PM
i think its a really ugly car and the no one should buy them :D
heavyD
06-01-2009, 12:49 PM
My take is that Subaru owners prefer EVO's lol. Take a look at the used car inventory at South Coast Mitsubishi (supposedly biggest seller of EVO's in the US). Every single WRX/STI was traded in on an EVO X lol.
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk169/ddimar/evo_southcoast_pic051.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk169/ddimar/evo_southcoast_pic061.jpg
ZorroAMG
06-01-2009, 12:59 PM
LOL @ the prowler....SUCH an ugly car....
bigboom
06-01-2009, 03:22 PM
Originally posted by heavyD
My take is that Subaru owners prefer EVO's lol. Take a look at the used car inventory at South Coast Mitsubishi (supposedly biggest seller of EVO's in the US). Every single WRX/STI was traded in on an EVO X lol.
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk169/ddimar/evo_southcoast_pic051.jpg
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk169/ddimar/evo_southcoast_pic061.jpg
i think its more that mitsu dealers wanted to cash in on the best of both worlds so they went and purchased a bunch of sti's to sell so people wouldnt have to go to subaru dealers :D
DannyO
06-01-2009, 03:23 PM
Originally posted by heavyD
My take is that Subaru owners prefer EVO's lol. Take a look at the used car inventory at South Coast Mitsubishi (supposedly biggest seller of EVO's in the US). Every single WRX/STI was traded in on an EVO X lol.
Can't say I blame them, if I had to trade in mine for the 08+ Evo or STi, I'd most likely take the Evo.
cityhunter2501
06-01-2009, 03:51 PM
Dirty_SOHC took these pics
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/6861/img9934a.jpg
http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/3664/img9938a.jpg
I had to choose between a WRB sedan wrx265 or a dark grey hb wrx265, went for the later one.
I was torn between a wrx265 or an evo x, went for the subaru simply because of bigger trunk space
psycoticclown
06-01-2009, 05:27 PM
^^That car is gorgeous :D
heavyD
06-01-2009, 06:13 PM
Originally posted by bigboom
i think its more that mitsu dealers wanted to cash in on the best of both worlds so they went and purchased a bunch of sti's to sell so people wouldnt have to go to subaru dealers :D
Nope. South Coast has a bunch of reps on the evolutionm.net boards and said they were all trade-ins.
Originally posted by heavyD
Nope. South Coast has a bunch of reps on the evolutionm.net boards and said they were all trade-ins.
I read today that car salesmen never lie either, so this story checks out 100%.
hampstor
06-01-2009, 11:13 PM
Originally posted by 89s1
I read today that car salesmen never lie either, so this story checks out 100%.
you bastard, you just made me spit beer all over my laptop :whipped:
I would purchase my wife the 09 STI and we seriously considered it this year. It's practical, fun, safe, speedy, and relatively inexpensive. However, we don't want to deal with car payments right now - so she will just have to wait. :)
Disoblige
06-02-2009, 12:22 AM
Hah, good ploy to put all those Suburu's in the "used car" lot (makes people assume stuff, true or not). They all stand out too since they're all blue. I'm surprised you don't see this stuff more often in Canada
v2kai
06-02-2009, 12:34 AM
funny how everyone knocks this guys thread and now look at all the posts lol
and I too didnt like the new sti's at first but it's grown on me
heavyD
06-02-2009, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by 89s1
I read today that car salesmen never lie either, so this story checks out 100%.
I guess you are right. A Mitsubishi dealership in California (a state where Subaru's don't sell well) bought up as many used WRX's as possible because during a recession where nobody is buying cars it's a perfect time to have a massive inventory of non-fuel efficient niche cars.:facepalm:
kevie88
06-02-2009, 05:38 PM
I'm seriously considering selling my 06 STi and grabbing a new EVO.. we could have the best of both worlds haha
That would be like a magazine test in my garage lol
Anyone wanna buy an 06 STI with low miles in great condition for $27, 000?
Originally posted by heavyD
I guess you are right. A Mitsubishi dealership in California (a state where Subaru's don't sell well) bought up as many used WRX's as possible because during a recession where nobody is buying cars it's a perfect time to have a massive inventory of non-fuel efficient niche cars.:facepalm:
Funny that in that same automotive market they are selling enough lancers to keep a full inventory of wrx trade-ins.
Do you even think before you type? :zzz:
jazzyb
06-02-2009, 06:09 PM
Subaru Sucks. kia is the way to go!
Kloubek
06-02-2009, 06:15 PM
Originally posted by v2kai
funny how everyone knocks this guys thread and now look at all the posts lol
I thought the same thing, but then I realized it's just Beyond's inherent ability to make something out of nothing that kept this tread alive. Seriously - the guy started off talking about the damn spoiler.
kevie88
06-02-2009, 07:24 PM
Originally posted by jazzyb
Subaru Sucks. kia is the way to go!
w3rd.
http://www.kia-world.net/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/kia-rio-tuning.JPG
heavyD
06-02-2009, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by 89s1
Funny that in that same automotive market they are selling enough lancers to keep a full inventory of wrx trade-ins.
Do you even think before you type? :zzz:
I believe it's you commenting on a subject you know nothing of. Pretty expensive ploy in a recession to bring in (29) :eek: used WRX/STI's. Southcoast is the largest Mitsubishi dealership in the entire US. They pretty well move all the EVO's in California since they can sell at lower prices due to their inventory. Take a look at their inventory of used cars by brand and then notice that they have a ton of used Subarus compared to other brands.
http://www.southcoastmitsubishi.com/Preowned-Inventory.aspx#page=preowned-inventory&pagesize=25&ajax_t=1243993040517&sortdirection=True&make=Subaru&sortitem=-2147483648&numberofvisiblepages=10&virtualpageindex=0¤tpage=1&totalrecords=31&hyperlinkargument=page
That's not because they go to auctions looking for WRX's it's because they can offer pricing on new EVO X's that no other dealerships in the country can. Most EVO X buyers are either EVO IX/VIII owners or Subaru owners that's the way it is. You would be surprised how many former Subaru owners have traded in their STI's for EVO X's and joined evolutionm.net. Hell there are threads at NASIOC titled '08 STI or 08 EVO X' and you would be surprised that it's a 50/50 split on a Subaru forum. Not shitting on the STI because I think it's a good car but it doesn't handle remotely close to an EVO. Drive both and try to tell me otherwise.
kevie88
06-02-2009, 07:54 PM
Originally posted by heavyD
Drive both and try to tell me otherwise.
Absolutely 100% truth. The new Evo would eat a new STI around any racetrack, anywhere.
We bought our STi because it was (quite a bit) cheaper, has a ton of room for a family (hatch) and is 90% as fast. If you want the king, you need an EVO.
heavyD
06-02-2009, 08:31 PM
Originally posted by kevie88
Absolutely 100% truth. The new Evo would eat a new STI around any racetrack, anywhere.
We bought our STi because it was (quite a bit) cheaper, has a ton of room for a family (hatch) and is 90% as fast. If you want the king, you need an EVO.
I almost bought an STI because at the time they were cheaper and I actually like them quite a bit as well the interior isn't as drab and to me it felt slightly quicker off the line. IMO if you are coming from a car with a stock suspension setup the STI will be a better car for you but if you are used to lowered cars with no body roll you will appreciate the EVO's ride more. I absolutely love the TC-SST though. I still haven't had any remorse of not having a stick for the first time in almost 15 years.
psycoticclown
06-02-2009, 08:40 PM
Didn't Top Gear do a comparison between the Evo X and the STi and the STi was quicker around their test track?
Sugarphreak
06-02-2009, 08:49 PM
....
natejj
06-13-2009, 07:27 PM
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-EVO-X-vs-WRX-STi_169396.htm
4doorj
06-14-2009, 08:00 PM
Originally posted by natejj
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-EVO-X-vs-WRX-STi_169396.htm
Reviews are everywhere from what I remember. STI better in some, EVO X better in others.
The first part of the video really wasn't fair they were comparing a STI to the special edition FQ-400.
In the last part they were compaing the normal sti to normal evo x, now thats a more fair comparison. It looked like the evox had a bad start though.
Perfect Dark
06-14-2009, 10:07 PM
The STi is more practical, the Evo is more fun...it all comes down to what a person is looking for.
To me the Evo would have been a much easier car to look at if it had more than 4 cubic inches of trunk space and if the price point was a bit lower. Everything else about the car I love.
psycoticclown
06-14-2009, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by natejj
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-EVO-X-vs-WRX-STi_169396.htm
That's the one!
heavyD
06-15-2009, 07:49 AM
Originally posted by 4doorj
It looked like the evox had a bad start though.
That's because it's an MR. The TC-SST prevents you getting a good launch. I will say though that launch was especially poor looking. Even a stock GSR is limited to a 5000 RPM launch while you can run the STI to redline and drop the clutch.
4doorj
06-15-2009, 07:52 AM
Originally posted by heavyD
That's because it's an MR. The TC-SST prevents you getting a good launch. I will say though that launch was especially poor looking. Even a stock GSR is limited to a 5000 RPM launch while you can run the STI to redline and drop the clutch.
That's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure because both the evo x had the Canadian GSR wheels. I wasn't sure which specs got which wheels in europe.
So with that being said, if they did the test by a few laps, I wonder what the outcome would be:thumbsup:
4doorj
06-15-2009, 11:53 PM
In this road and track comparison the STI was slower then the GSR by 1.6 sec, and slower then the MR by 2.5 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMsLDimci6A
It's weird how the comparisons are everywhere.
heavyD
06-16-2009, 07:05 AM
Originally posted by 4doorj
In this road and track comparison the STI was slower then the GSR by 1.6 sec, and slower then the MR by 2.5 seconds.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMsLDimci6A
It's weird how the comparisons are everywhere.
I believe the top gear comparison was one of the few that ever had the STI faster but their launch was so poor you can argue that the comparison was lost right there. There's not a single US publication that's ever tested the STI faster than the EVO X around a track.
403Gemini
06-16-2009, 08:30 AM
Originally posted by heavyD
I believe the top gear comparison was one of the few that ever had the STI faster but their launch was so poor you can argue that the comparison was lost right there. There's not a single US publication that's ever tested the STI faster than the EVO X around a track.
Yes but, Americans don't know how to drive, Euro's do ;) Haha j/k
Honestly I think both cars are quite amazing. I, personally, am not a fan of the new STi and how it only comes in the hatch version, had it come in the sedan I think it would have eliminated tons of body roll and been a much tighter car. I'm not saying I don't like the hatch, because I do because it's insanely practical and still looks good... better than mazda 3's, etc ;), just not for the STi though (or at the very least, have a sedan option)
That being said, with the 2010 models, why hasn't subaru followed suit for the last few gens and changed the looks every 2 years?
http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/GeneralFuture/articleId=130147
spec-c should be interesting, however the overall looks doesnt seem to have changed much
403Gemini
06-16-2009, 11:10 AM
^^ :eek: 15 seconds?! Yikes that would be insane...
K, i like that STi quite a bit... ;) Especially with the stiffer suspension
heavyD
06-16-2009, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by 403Gemini
^^ :eek: 15 seconds?! Yikes that would be insane...
K, i like that STi quite a bit... ;) Especially with the stiffer suspension
Yep. Suspension is really the only weak point on the car. Lowered with stiffer springs should be a capable little hatch.
jongc
06-18-2009, 12:47 PM
Originally posted by natejj
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Top-Gear-EVO-X-vs-WRX-STi_169396.htm
3 wheel drift on the last corner with the EVO, very nice!
jazzyb
06-22-2009, 11:40 AM
Although the WRX StI lives up to the hype in terms of performance. The thing is ugly on the outside and unrefined on the inside. Yes I know that this is a rally car, but it is still a car with a price tag of 45000 (Tech package). At that price the least they could do is provide a nav which doesnt look like its bought at future shop and pay a little bit more attention to the interior.
Love the engine, love the performance, love the AWD. HATE the rest.
Is the performance and lack of everything else, worth this price tag?
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