iphone 3gs release

[l/l/rX]

Work is gonna lick balls tomorrow. I don't get all the hype for this phone AGAIN! There's few added features and larger memory. Woo-hoo.
Seriously the phone is gonna be available next week and the week after etc is it really necessary to line up at 730 in the morning tomorrow?

Anyways for you fido people that plan on waiting in line tomorrow here's a few things you need to know.
If using your fido dollars to purchase the phone you have to add on a 3 year data plan if you don't have one already. If you don't want data you have to purchase the phone at regular price. 599, 699 or 799.
New activations are only available on 3 year data again if you do not want data have to purchase at regular price.
6gb is available for 30 bucks only on a 3 year data plan.
For those of you who don't know there are ecfs on data plans seperate from voice plan ecfs.

The apple store will also be selling the iphone so you can go line up there to. They will activate it on the spot with either Rogers or fido. Those phones are NOT unlocked. So don't get it twisted.

Let's see what happens this year I wonder if Rogers fido and apple have beefed up their systems this time around. Last year the Rogers and fido sales network crashed. Itunes also crashed last year.
It took 30 to 40min to complete an activation which really should only take 8-10 min if the customer already knows in advanced what they want.

Stupid iphone.

[tha_bandit]

Originally posted by l/l/rX

The apple store will also be selling the iphone so you can go line up there to. They will activate it on the spot with either Rogers or fido. Those phones are NOT unlocked. So don't get it twisted.


anyone lining up at apple retail is an idiot...make a damn reservation
http://www.apple.com/ca/retail/

on the other hand, there will prob be a reservation line :facepalm:

[Mr. Burns]

I called the Rogers store on Country Hills Blvd, and he told me that iPhone 3G s will NOT be available without a contract. He said that the cost of the unit had been raised to $3100 in his computer (I found it odd he would mention that)

And all mention of a no-contract price seems to have been removed from the Rogers site.

*EDIT* Looks like the no-contract pricing is back.

[l/l/rX]

Imo anyone who lines up for the phone tomorrow is an idiot.

[HyperZell]

Originally posted by l/l/rX
Imo anyone who lines up for the phone tomorrow is an idiot.

Dude, relax. What does it matter?

[gpomp]

Originally posted by l/l/rX
Imo anyone who lines up for the phone tomorrow is an idiot. imo, anyone who works for fido is an idiot

[eglove]

let's complain about all the commission and sales you're going to make tomorrow. stop fucking whining.

[Canmorite]

I'm planning to get one, but if there's a huge lineup forget it.

[CivicDXR]

let him rant and whine... he's just pissed that he's gonna be on the other side of it... I would be annoyed too...

[ZorroAMG]

IMO, anyone judging the people that are using their money to buy from you is an idiot.

[tha_bandit]

:D


Originally posted by l/l/rX
Imo anyone who lines up for the phone tomorrow is an idiot.

Originally posted by gpomp
imo, anyone who works for fido is an idiot

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
IMO, anyone judging the people that are using their money to buy from you is an idiot

my bad about the idiot comment, seems like it took over the thread...

[black13]

I'm going to get one but if there's gonna be a line up then I'm gonna wait it out.

I agree though, lining up for this simple shit when you could just as easily get it next week is stupid. Some people just follow Apple like sheep and buy whatever they come out with.

Having said that, I don't think this year's lineup's will be as bad as last year since last year was the first release in Canada.

[ZorroAMG]

Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[navdeep]

i work at future shop and we got about 20 of each ... i don't see it being any line up's here

[Mr. Burns]

Is futureshop authorized to sell without a contract? I have called a couple of places today, and none of them are authorized to sell without a contract.

[ICEBERG]

I have the White 16 gig 3G.. The 3.0 is great. No need for me to upgrade to 3G S. I will wait till Apple does a new design of this phone before i buy one.

There are couple phones i might try. The Nokia N97 and the Samsung Omnia HD...

cheers,

[T78Supra1]

Has it been confirmed that you can not buy this phone without a contract from Rogers or the apple store?

[Mr. Burns]

A friend of mine who works at a Rogers store said that his store has not been authorized to sell without a contract.

I also phone Cellcom Wireless downtown and the woman said they aren't authorized to see non-contract unitl next week.

[navdeep]

ya we can Not sell it with out a contract

[Shogged]

most retail locations won't sell without a contract because the cost of the iphone is 693 and we have to sell it for 699, and when you factor in shipping and processing its not worth it at all.

rogers plus are corporate stores and are forced to sell it outright, and of course the apple store can sell it outright.

its really not a question of being authorized, its purely they don't want to lose money.

also, buying outright at this point may not be your best option if you're an existing iphone customer with a contract. if you've had it for at least 6 months you're going to get an early upgrade discount of 250 bucks! so just make sure you get yourself the best deal!

[minui]

Originally posted by ICEBERG
I will wait till Apple does a new design of this phone before i buy one.

:werd:

[rumeo]

Are they going to bring in the early upgrade again like last time?

[dino_martini]

Did people actually line up for this? Like I could understand lining up for the iPhone 3g. But the 3gs? :dunno: I guess I am just not an apple freak like some of you guys lol

[B4tMan]

can you buy / return products 30 days money back guarantee from Apple store, just like Future Shop?

[Jeremiah]

Originally posted by Shogged
most retail locations won't sell without a contract because the cost of the iphone is 693 and we have to sell it for 699, and when you factor in shipping and processing its not worth it at all.

rogers plus are corporate stores and are forced to sell it outright, and of course the apple store can sell it outright.

its really not a question of being authorized, its purely they don't want to lose money.

also, buying outright at this point may not be your best option if you're an existing iphone customer with a contract. if you've had it for at least 6 months you're going to get an early upgrade discount of 250 bucks! so just make sure you get yourself the best deal!

$250 discount?

i upgraded with you last year, and i just upgraded over the phone and they offered it to me for $199, so i took it, i just had to renew for another 3 years which is no problem because i have no desire to switch anyways

[tha_bandit]

Originally posted by B4tMan
can you buy / return products 30 days money back guarantee from Apple store, just like Future Shop?

dont know about the days (prob 14) but they do charge a 10% restocking fee!

[ZorroAMG]

Syncing my 3GS right now....love the camera and video improvement, compass is cool, haven't played much yet...

I was at a store that just opened at 9am here in Van, but I was second in line. They only had one 32gb 3gS in black that the lady in front of me took, so I busted it up the street to the rogers video and was first in line.....there were about 30 people in line when I left...took me an hour to sign up with phone lines being congested...

Sweet phone. Need a case now.

[Shogged]

Originally posted by Jeremiah


$250 discount?

i upgraded with you last year, and i just upgraded over the phone and they offered it to me for $199, so i took it, i just had to renew for another 3 years which is no problem because i have no desire to switch anyways

yep thats the other renewal, if you got your iphone july - sept of 08 then you're getting it for the 199 or 299. that also means you've had a bill of at least 100 bucks a month

if you got it at least 6 months ago, you are still getting a discount, but only the 250 bucks

if you got one within the past 6 months you're out of luck

[navdeep]

if any one wants my brother gots a 16g black one for sale 600$ pm me

[Canmorite]

Went to a Rogers store in Calgary and was told I had to wait 4-5 hours to get started. Drove to Canmore and the store here took me 50 mins and I was out the door :rofl:

Got a white 16gb 3GS. Fucking love it so far, and got it for new customer pricing :thumbsup:

[eglove]

just called and they would not offer it to me for $199. $429 was the upgrade price for the 16gb and the 32gb.

i really fucking hate rogers sometimes.

[Zero102]

Originally posted by l/l/rX
Let's see what happens this year I wonder if Rogers fido and apple have beefed up their systems this time around. Last year the Rogers and fido sales network crashed. Itunes also crashed last year.
It took 30 to 40min to complete an activation which really should only take 8-10 min if the customer already knows in advanced what they want.

Stupid iphone.


Oh man, 30-40 minutes I would have been so happy with that today. Wait times for DIG / HUP were in excess of 3 hours this evening, sales central was completely broken most of the day as well.


Originally posted by Canmorite
Went to a Rogers store in Calgary and was told I had to wait 4-5 hours to get started. Drove to Canmore and the store here took me 50 mins and I was out the door :rofl:

Thats lucky, since they should have had to deal with all the same stuff we did. Some random ones were going through without issues though. New activations were pretty painless, just the hardware upgrades were being bad for us.

[Canmorite]

Originally posted by Zero102




Thats lucky, since they should have had to deal with all the same stuff we did. Some random ones were going through without issues though. New activations were pretty painless, just the hardware upgrades were being bad for us.

ya it was about 40 Mins on hold but once we got through it didn't take long at all. The guy that helped me was great but you could tell he was pretty stressed out haha.

[djayz]

Are these sold out now or what?

I'm waiting until next week or the week after just so I don't have to waste time waiting for activations and all this other bs you guys go through to get it on day 1.

[npham]

Most stores did not get that much stock, usually 1-2 32gb and then 4-6 16gb phones. Obviously this isn't the case for all stores, but this seems pretty common based on the info I've read and heard about first hand from a Rogers Plus store.

[navdeep]

my store in the nw got like 10 16gb and 10 32gb and still have about 6 of each in stock

[eglove]

i'd get one if i could get the goddamn $199 upgrade fee.

[ZMan2k2]

I'm actually shocked that I'm thinking this, but the upgrades aren't enough for me to want to upgrade to the 3Gs. Usually, I'm the ultimate nerd and need the latest and greatest, but I'm okay with my 3G. Guess I saved myself some money.:D

[ZorroAMG]

Nope, 3GS is win. Get it.

:D

[tha_bandit]

...edited, wrong thread

[Zero102]

Originally posted by ZMan2k2
I'm actually shocked that I'm thinking this, but the upgrades aren't enough for me to want to upgrade to the 3Gs. Usually, I'm the ultimate nerd and need the latest and greatest, but I'm okay with my 3G. Guess I saved myself some money.:D

Agreed, the best bit here is that the 8GB is down to $99 now.. the 3GS isn't really anything special, its a shame they didn't come out with something a bit more innovative.

[ZorroAMG]

I dunno, the camera with touch focus and video is great, the 32gb is nice and the 3GS is noticeably faster than the 3G.

I was also coming from a 2.5G, so this was a worthwhile upgrade...

[HyperZell]

Originally posted by Zero102


Agreed, the best bit here is that the 8GB is down to $99 now.. the 3GS isn't really anything special, its a shame they didn't come out with something a bit more innovative.

Like what? The iPhone is already arguably the most innovative phone out there; you can't expect Apple to change the game every year.

[scat19]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
I was also coming from a 2.5G, so this was a worthwhile upgrade...

What's that? You mean a 2G.

I had a bunch of BS with mine. Anways, I was able to argue for hours on the phone - but got the 32GB 3GS in the mail to me. I'm coming from a 3G and got the upgrade pricing. Muahha. ;)

[sputnik]

Originally posted by eglove
just called and they would not offer it to me for $199. $429 was the upgrade price for the 16gb and the 32gb.

i really fucking hate rogers sometimes.

You do realize your an idiot right?

How many more months do you have on you're current contract?

What phone did you get the last time you signed a new contract?

[eglove]

Originally posted by sputnik


You do realize your an idiot right?

How many more months do you have on you're current contract?

What phone did you get the last time you signed a new contract?

nope, not an idiot. they are offering it to former 3g users for the new user $199, $299 price. the csr i dealt with was a douche. I got a 32gb 3gs today.

24.5 months left on contract, 3g was my last phone/upgrade.

[ZorroAMG]

Soooo you paid 700 for a phone today?

LOL

[eglove]

nope, I got it for $299

[Carl64]

Originally posted by eglove


nope, not an idiot. they are offering it to former 3g users for the new user $199, $299 price. the csr i dealt with was a douche. I got a 32gb 3gs today.

24.5 months left on contract, 3g was my last phone/upgrade.

Say what? Since when. Proof.

[eglove]

It was in another one of the 3gs threads.

edit: first page of this thread, and when you call in and ask about it, they explain to you that they can do it, but it has to get mailed to you

[ZorroAMG]

So you weren't eligible for a HUP but you still got one?

[eglove]

Sure did.

[gpomp]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
So you weren't eligible for a HUP but you still got one? Offer 1:
If you are an existing Rogers iPhone 3G customer who has minimum tenure of 6 months since your activation/last upgrade, you can receive $250 off the no-term, device-only price, for a new iPhone 3GS provided that you have a data plan and extend your service agreement by 1 year. This offer does not apply for upgrading to an iPhone 3G.

Offer 2:
If you are an existing iPhone 3G customer who activated or upgraded to your iPhone 3G from July 11-Sep 30 2008 and have consistently spent on average of $100 or more each month on your Rogers wireless services you will get $500 off the no-term price of an iPhone 3GS, provided that you have a data plan and extend your service agreement by 1 year. This offer does not apply for upgrading to an iPhone 3G.

No-term Offer 1 Offer 2
iPhone 3G S 16 GB $699 $449 $199
iPhone 3G S 32 GB $799 $549 $299

These offers are available wherever Rogers’ smartphones are sold or by calling Rogers’ customer care. These offers are valid until July 31st.

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/iphone-3g/rogers-fido-releases-iphone-3gs-upgrade-pricing-finally/

[Carl64]

Just talked to a Rogers rep online, it is true. Rogers online quoted me at 459.99 for a 16gb 3GS, I'm going to call tomorrow and see if I can get one for 200. Do they just add it to your bill?

[eglove]

Yea, he said it would just billed to my account on the next cycle.

[Carl64]

Do they make you return your 3G?

[Team_Mclaren]

Originally posted by Carl64
Do they make you return your 3G?

how can they do that when you own the phone ?

[eglove]

^ lol!

[Carl64]

Well the phone is subsidized to you until your contract is up, so I'm sure they could come up with something. I've never actually read my whole contract though. I'm just pretty surprised rogers is doing this, there usually pretty big dbags until you threaten to cancel.

[JWL]

Wow! Makes me realize how crappy cellphone services in Canada are compared to the UK. I got my 16gig 3GS for free on a 24 month contract.

[A790]

I notice a difference between my old 3G and my new 3GS. Everything on the 3GS is faster. Everything.

[ICEBERG]

Originally posted by A790
I notice a difference between my old 3G and my new 3GS. Everything on the 3GS is faster. Everything.

For a casual user though, would that much speed make a difference to upgrade?

Also how is the video quality on the new 3GS?

My wife took my 16gig iphone. I am looking to get something else, so i don't know what to get yet. I was looking at the samsung omni HD and nokia n97. If apple would have changed the design on the iphone i would have prob. got one. Going to wait till next year to see what apple does next with this phone..

[scat19]

Originally posted by ICEBERG


For a casual user though, would that much speed make a difference to upgrade?

Also how is the video quality on the new 3GS?

My wife took my 16gig iphone. I am looking to get something else, so i don't know what to get yet. I was looking at the samsung omni HD and nokia n97. If apple would have changed the design on the iphone i would have prob. got one. Going to wait till next year to see what apple does next with this phone..

What do you mean a casual user?

If you text and call people, these apps will open twice as fast.

Look at speed demo's. Day to day "casual" use will see the speed increase.

Yes, it may only be 200MHZ faster on paper, but the actual processor is said to perform around 1100MHZ.

Look at the PRE. It beats that out in every test, yet the pre's clock speed is 800.

[stevieo]

damn i kinda wanna upgrade my 3g to the S haha..

[in*10*se]

iphone 3G type S.... where are the RSX fan boys when you need them...

[ZorroAMG]

3GS is more like the DBS.....those of you without the S are just DB's

:rofl: :rofl:

[ZEDGE]

The speed difference is quite noticeable. Guy at work got a 3Gs and I compared a few apps etc, mine seems so slow now.. :(

[scat19]

Originally posted by ZorroAMG
3GS is more like the DBS.....those of you without the S are just DB's

:rofl: :rofl:

Could you say a 3G is like a vantage?

[Canmorite]

Ive browsed tons and still only used 40mb out of my 6gb monthly. Time to kick up the usage :rofl:

[Carl64]

Anyone that ordered beginning of this week/end of last get theirs yet? I was told they are on back order :(.

[tha_bandit]

:thumbsup: HUP......:thumbsdow Out of stock 3Gs



:cry:

[CookieMonster]

Originally posted by Carl64
Anyone that ordered beginning of this week/end of last get theirs yet? I was told they are on back order :(.

I ordered mine on Sunday afternoon (21st), and I called shipping today and was told it was still backordered . They don't seem to know when Apple will send them more stock either :dunno:

[black13]

Originally posted by ICEBERG


For a casual user though, would that much speed make a difference to upgrade?

Also how is the video quality on the new 3GS?

My wife took my 16gig iphone. I am looking to get something else, so i don't know what to get yet. I was looking at the samsung omni HD and nokia n97. If apple would have changed the design on the iphone i would have prob. got one. Going to wait till next year to see what apple does next with this phone..
Don't even bother with the omni or n97. Seriously people need to understand that iPhone is seriously way ahead of every other touch screen phone out there and it's not just hype and popularity that makes it good. Especially now with 3GS, just cause it doesn't have a redesign doesn't mean its not worth it. Only alternative to the iphone that I would look into would be the G1 google phone. Anything with Windows Mobile, Nokia interface, Sony whatever is garbage.

I can guarantee anyone switching from iphone to any other touch screen, will be hugely disappointed.

[Carl64]

Just a headsup to anyone that ordered online, my order did not go through. I called Rogers E-Care today and they couldn't find my order so I called *611 and they are shipping it out tomorrow (5-10 day shipping though).

[rage2]

For those looking for a factory unlocked iPhone 3GS...

http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU


iPhone 3G & iPhone 3GS purchased at the Apple Online Store can be activated with any wireless carrier. Simply insert the SIM from your current phone into iPhone 3G or iPhone 3GS and connect to iTunes 8.2 to complete activation.

I picked up a 32g GS, no more waiting on hacks to upgrade firmware.

Was waiting on HK (which also sells 'em unlocked starting late July), but found out Australia and Italy has 'em already.

[scat19]

Only a couple things I hate with this phone. Reception and GPS acquisition is slower than my 3G. Argh.

[CookieMonster]

In case anyone was wondering when their Iphone will come, I ordered 2 Iphone 3GS 16GB (1 black/1white) on June 21st, and I received the white one yesterday, and just received the black one today.

[eur0]

I ordered the day of release and got mine in the mail yesterday.

[eglove]

The csr I dealt with on the 21st never even ordered mine. I called yesterday and there was nothing stating it was shipped/ordered. Sigh... Now they are sold out everywhere.

[djayz]

Originally posted by eglove
The csr I dealt with on the 21st never even ordered mine. I called yesterday and there was nothing stating it was shipped/ordered. Sigh... Now they are sold out everywhere.

If it's on order through rogers just go to the apple store tell them to give you one, they will call into rogers confirm that you're on the waiting list, then they will cancel your order with rogers and hand you one. You can either pay for the phone on the spot or wait for it to show up on your rogers bill.

[rage2]

Just got my no lock 3GS up and running today, it's seriously 3x faster than my 3G. Great upgrade from the 3G if you hate the random lag.

[ZEDGE]

:(

[dj_rice]

Originally posted by djayz


If it's on order through rogers just go to the apple store tell them to give you one, they will call into rogers confirm that you're on the waiting list, then they will cancel your order with rogers and hand you one. You can either pay for the phone on the spot or wait for it to show up on your rogers bill.


Yeah, you can do this for Fido also, you can even use your Fido Dollars in the store, they have a system there called Fido Sales Central, they just enter the system, and enter ur Fido Dollars and voila, walk out without paying a thing...but on a sidenote, I've never been to a Apple store before and WTF, you have to make an appointment to buy stuff?:rofl: :nut: :dunno:

[Jeremiah]

I love how much faster my 3GS is but I can't stand the battery life! I'm charging this bitch almost twice a day

[Jeremiah]

I love how much faster my 3GS is but I can't stand the battery life! I'm charging this bitch almost twice a day

[djayz]

Originally posted by dj_rice



Yeah, you can do this for Fido also, you can even use your Fido Dollars in the store, they have a system there called Fido Sales Central, they just enter the system, and enter ur Fido Dollars and voila, walk out without paying a thing...but on a sidenote, I've never been to a Apple store before and WTF, you have to make an appointment to buy stuff?:rofl: :nut: :dunno:

I just walked in and talked to the guy there who put me on a list and said wait 20 minutes, ended up waiting about 5 before someone helped me out. Don't think it's absolutely necessary to make an appointment before hand unless the place is crazy busy.



Originally posted by Jeremiah
I love how much faster my 3GS is but I can't stand the battery life! I'm charging this bitch almost twice a day

Best thing to do is on the first charge let it drain all the way. You can still do it but won't have the same effect. But yah let the battery drain until its almost dead like 5% then charge it up full.

I found out that charging through usb takes alot longer then plugging the thing into the wall. Took me almost 6 hours to get it from 8%-90%. Plugged it into the wall and took about 25 minutes to do the other 10%. Next day did a charge from 34% to full by wall plug and it took 2 hours.

[rage2]

I've noticed the battery meter is different now. Back then, it would be 1/2 gone before the meter even moved. Now it moves right away. At the end of a full day, I'm down to 70% battery with the gauge showing only 2/3. Before I'd always be showing full everynight (even tho it wasn't really full).

I'm gonna not charge it today and see how it lasts. Based on my usual usage, I can go 2 full days before I really need to charge it.

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[rage2]

Seeing as there's lots of Asian people here...

http://store.apple.com/hk/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone

No lock iPhones are available in HK starting today for a little more than a locked iPhone with no contract here.

3GS 32GB - $943cdn
3GS 16GB - $808cdn

[dj_rice]

I got my Iphone from the Apple store activated on Fido, is mine unlocked then?

[eglove]

Originally posted by dj_rice
I got my Iphone from the Apple store activated on Fido, is mine unlocked then?

no, now you are locked to fido. whatever carrier you activate with, is who your are locked to until you ultrasn0w it.

[rage2]

Originally posted by eglove
no, now you are locked to fido. whatever carrier you activate with, is who your are locked to until you ultrasn0w it.
My problem with yellowsn0w on the 3g (pre 3.0) was that the baseband was one version older, and when using some foreign SIM cards the phone would get stuck in no service mode until I reboot it 20 times. These are known issues with the hacked software unlock that I just couldn't live with. That and I had to wait for a hack before I could upgrade the firmware.

Just not worth the hassle.

[kenny]

Originally posted by rage2
I'm gonna not charge it today and see how it lasts. Based on my usual usage, I can go 2 full days before I really need to charge it.

Doesn't your usual usage include plugging it into your car to listen to music which charges it? If not, 2 days is pretty good battery life considering how much you use it.

[Russo]

Originally posted by rage2
For those looking for a factory unlocked iPhone 3GS...

http://store.apple.com/au/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone?mco=MTE2OTU



I picked up a 32g GS, no more waiting on hacks to upgrade firmware.

Was waiting on HK (which also sells 'em unlocked starting late July), but found out Australia and Italy has 'em already.


Hey rage, how did u get it? can you get it shipped to Canada through the site?

[rage2]

No, you have to know someone locally in HK or Australia, or get it through ebay.

[Carl64]

Picked mine up at the Apple store in Calgary when I went to go get my TV. Way quicker then going through Rogers. Thing is damn fast!