Great prices at the Camerastore

[89coupe]

Not sure if anyone is in the market for a new camera but I just noticed the Camerastore has dropped their prices on bodies.

You can pick up a 50D for $1143 now.

http://www.thecamerastore.com/products/cameras/digital-cameras/digital-slr-cameras/canon-eos-50d-body

[Mitsu3000gt]

No significant change in price for Nikon Bodies or lenses :(

[The_Rural_Juror]

It's OOS according to the website. Besides, Saneal had it for ~$1190 a few weeks ago.

Might as well hold out a few months for the rumoured 60D.

[quazimoto]

Amazing how fast they come out with a 60D to get the 50D off the market. I'm assuming they realized in a hurry that the 40D was better than the 50D. I swear if canon messes up the Canon 1Ds Mark IV later this year I'm going nikon.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Amazing how fast they come out with a 60D to get the 50D off the market. I'm assuming they realized in a hurry that the 40D was better than the 50D. I swear if canon messes up the Canon 1Ds Mark IV later this year I'm going nikon.

Wasn't only a couple of lenses you really liked holding you back from the switch? I have a feeling you will be over to the dark side eventually haha.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Amazing how fast they come out with a 60D to get the 50D off the market. I'm assuming they realized in a hurry that the 40D was better than the 50D. I swear if canon messes up the Canon 1Ds Mark IV later this year I'm going nikon.

A camera is only as good as the user. Junk in, junk out ;)

[bcylau]

^ lol exactly

[quazimoto]

Not really some cameras get rushed out to the market. The issue with me switching to nikon was two headed.

A) I love my 50mm 1.2L and my 85mm 1.2L. There aren't any lenses that really compare to them.

B) The D3X doesn't offer a huge advantage over my 1Ds. All the tests I had seen the image quality at each ISO range was very equal.

I mean it takes something big to make me jump over but if Canon does mess the 1Ds Mark IV up they'll never get my business again. I've watched them rush two cameras out and it doesn't impress me. For the record the 50D was rushed out to the market as was the 1D Mark III. The prices on the cameras at thecamerastore are "average". Until they can get their prices to the same Adorama and BHphoto can it is going to stop them from getting a lot of local business.

But yes, yes are you correct. Nikon is the dark side :)

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Until they can get their prices to the same Adorama and BHphoto can it is going to stop them from getting a lot of local business.



BHphoto: 50D, $1,199.99 USD + shipping

TCS: 50D, $1,149.99 CAD


BHPhoto: D300, $1,799.95 USD + shipping

TCS: D300, $1,599.99 CAD


BH/Adorama is not always the best deal out there. Especially when factoring exchange rate and shipping, BH can often turn out to be more expensive overall.

[89coupe]

I'm not sure why everyone talks about ISO comparisons cause really, unless you are shooting sports for a living or you work for TMZ, are you really that concerned about ISO?

All you wedding photogs use remote flashes, tripods, reflectors, you name it.

Landscape photogs, tripods.

Magazine photogs, all of the above.

I don't recall seeing many nature photogs shooting at night...LOL.

I'm curious, how many of you pro's use ISO's above 1000?

If so, for what and why?

[BerserkerCatSplat]

There are many situations where the ambient light is preferable to created light as it captures the mood and setting of an event better, so I shoot ISO800 - 1600 fairly regularly, even with f/1.4 lenses. I'd much rather have more tools at my disposal than less.

[Mitsu3000gt]

^^^
I agree, I often find myself using ISO 1000+ to get shutter speeds fast enough to photograph wildlife when it isn't really bright out. There are countless other situations as well. Flashes have their time and place, so does high ISO.

[quazimoto]

Sadly not all wedding photographers use proper equipment especially when it comes to lighting. ISO 800-3200 is very important for ceremonies and for receptions. For formal shots I've never shot above ISO 400. High end cameras ISO 800-3200 is very usable with little noise and fairly high detail. But I kid you not you'd be surprised how many wedding photographers don't use off camera flash, umbrellas, light reflectors or anything like that.

And wow for once thecamerastore has a better price than BHphoto and Adorama. I saved $1500 by buying my 1Ds in the states as opposed to Calgary.

[89coupe]

Lets see the ISO 1000 and above photos for professional purposes exif proof required.

[quazimoto]

Err sure, open the Calgary herald and look at a few of the shots from the flames games.

Seriously in churches that are dimly lit which most are you require higher ISO speeds in order to properly take photographs.

I find the Canon 5D Mark II is able to easily pull of ISO 3200 and the photos are still damn sharp. ISO 3200 on an XSI would make me cry lol.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Err sure, open the Calgary herald and look at a few of the shots from the flames games.

Seriously in churches that are dimly lit which most are you require higher ISO speeds in order to properly take photographs.

I find the Canon 5D Mark II is able to easily pull of ISO 3200 and the photos are still damn sharp. ISO 3200 on an XSI would make me cry lol.

LOL, dude do you ever read?

Less talk, more posting. Show your photos or shut it.:rofl:

[lint]

Originally posted by 89coupe
I'm not sure why everyone talks about ISO comparisons cause really, unless you are shooting sports for a living or you work for TMZ, are you really that concerned about ISO?

All you wedding photogs use remote flashes, tripods, reflectors, you name it.

Landscape photogs, tripods.

Magazine photogs, all of the above.

I don't recall seeing many nature photogs shooting at night...LOL.

I'm curious, how many of you pro's use ISO's above 1000?

If so, for what and why?

Why would someone who buys a 70-200f4LIS lens just to shoot panos be so concerned about other photogs needs for high iso performance?

[89coupe]

Originally posted by lint


Why would someone who buys a 70-200f4LIS lens just to shoot panos be so concerned about other photogs needs for high iso performance?

Less talk, more posting. Proof or shut it.:rofl:

[quazimoto]

Because his camera can't use ISO 800+ is my guess so he thinks its not humanly possible.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Because his camera can't use ISO 800+ is my guess so he thinks its not humanly possible.

Proof or shut it. Less talk more posting, bitches.:D

[lint]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Because his camera can't use ISO 800+ is my guess so he thinks its not humanly possible.

rhetorical question, but I like your answer.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Originally posted by 89coupe
Lets see the ISO 1000 and above photos for professional purposes exif proof required.

Just do a quick search on the internet and you can find millions of samples. Here are a few:

D3 ISO 4000
http://www.digitalreview.ca/Content/Nikon-D3-Digital-SLR-Sample-Image-1.shtml

D3 ISO 6400
http://www.digitalreview.ca/Content/Nikon-D3-Digital-SLR-Sample-Image-2.shtml

D3 ISO 6400
http://www.digitalreview.ca/Content/Nikon-D3-Digital-SLR-Sample-Image-3.shtml

D3 ISO 6400
http://www.digitalreview.ca/Content/Nikon-D3-Digital-SLR-Sample-Image-4.shtml

D3 ISO 6400
http://www.digitalreview.ca/Content/Nikon-D3-Digital-SLR-Sample-Image-5.shtml

Any one of those pictures could easily be used for professional purposes.

I'm not sure whats magical about ISO 1000. Most cameras are equal up to 400 and then after that you can start to see some differences. I use 800 A LOT.

Although not professional by any means here are a couple of mine that I couldn't have gotten without using ISO 800+:

ISO 800 F4 1/250
http://mschlosser.smugmug.com/photos/271707478_gkqmD-XL.jpg

ISO 800 F2.8 1/160
http://mschlosser.smugmug.com/photos/380276723_XDqZm-X2.jpg

ISO 3200, F2.8, 1/60 - a flash would have killed all the interesting background light.
http://mschlosser.smugmug.com/photos/314031554_YKnXg-XL.jpg

ISO 1600, F2.8, 1/50 - shot through glass, where flashes don't often work well at all (i.e. high ISO required).
http://mschlosser.smugmug.com/photos/312424297_kz7dX-XL.jpg

ISo 2500, F2.8, 1/160 - shot through glass as well, and a flash would likely have ruined the picture.
http://mschlosser.smugmug.com/photos/312744027_iJDtT-XL.jpg

Anyways my point is just that whether its professional or not, high ISO is extremely important. Also for people who can't afford F2.8 glass and still want to freeze action - if the camera has shitty high ISO performance, to get a fast shutter speed at f5.6 + on anything other than a bright day, you will need to raise the ISO or not get the picture. It also lets people travel lighter with cheaper glass if they don't want to lug around fast glass but still need decent shutter speeds in less than ideal conditions. It's pretty hard to argue against the benefits of good high ISO performance.

[89coupe]

all talk, yap yap yap...LOL:rofl:

Man you guys cannot read.

[quazimoto]

Sorry I have no need to prove what I know but I'm sure just about any other professional photographer on this board can echo the same things I've said above. I'm sure most use ISO 800+ on a common basis.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Sorry I have no need to prove what I know but I'm sure just about any other professional photographer on this board can echo the same things I've said above. I'm sure most use ISO 800+ on a common basis.

I said 1000 and above. not for sports, and not for news.

Wedding
Landscape
Magazine
Nature

"Professional"

Yap yap yap.

:rofl:

[quazimoto]

Like I said, I'd rather not waste my time scouring through photos just to prove you wrong. Go buy a 5D Mark II and your eyes will be opened to a whole new level of photography.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Like I said, I'd rather not waste my time scouring through photos just to prove you wrong. Go buy a 5D Mark II and your eyes will be opened to a whole new level of photography.

All talk...blah blah blah.:rofl:

[quazimoto]

Well this photo was taken with a variation of ISO 640 to ISO 1250. That photo is also up in several photography contests with a few magazines I subscribe to.

http://www.khphotography.ca/volcano.jpg

[89coupe]

EXIF data or shut it.:rofl:

according to that photo you posted it says ISO 100

Shooting Date/Time 04/04/2009 10:09:02 AM
Tv( Shutter Speed ) 1/4
Av( Aperture Value ) 22
ISO Speed 100
Camera Model Canon EOS-1Ds Mark III

[The_Rural_Juror]

89trolled!

[89coupe]

Originally posted by The_Rural_Juror
89trolled!

Shut it you little leach...LOL....never seen someone that shoots his yap off as much as you.

Post it or shut it...LOL:rofl:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Sure, I've got a couple sitting in my Pbucket account. EXIF is intact.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/CatSplat/6c2c6ad8.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/CatSplat/444989a7.jpg

I shot the whole event between ISO 400 and 1600, with the majority at 1600. For your convenience, I've done an ExposurePlot of that particular event, you can see that capturing the stage lighting correctly required both fast aperture and high ISO.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a318/CatSplat/9181e244.jpg

Still don't believe me?

[lint]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Shut it you little leach...LOL....never seen someone that shoots his yap off as much as you.

Post it or shut it...LOL:rofl:
a narcisist like yourself hasn't looked in a mirror?

[quazimoto]

I say we have a contest with 89coupe. Lets see who can take the best hand held shot of the entire downtown landscape at 1:00am.

[89coupe]

So one guy. Thats it?

What lens?


Hey Trevor, did you get paid big dollars for that shoot?

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
I say we have a contest with 89coupe. Lets see who can take the best hand held shot of the entire downtown landscape at 1:00am.

Dude I've seen your downtown shots, I wouldn't be calling anyone out...LOL:rofl:

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Originally posted by 89coupe
So one guy. Thats it?

What lens?


Hey Trevor, did you get paid big dollars for that shoot?

Hahaha, what happened to "Berk?"

Mostly a 50/1.4 and 30/1.4, a couple with a 17-35. Not sure what you mean by "big dollars", but I've been paid less for more and more for less.

[quazimoto]

LOL wow he insults my "snap shot". I wish you luck when you print off a photo that is going to cost you $500 and will end up looking like crap. Best of luck with that.

Come on, aren't you man enough to take the challenge. One hand held picture at 1:00 am. What's wrong your not afraid are you?

I'm sure at ISO 3200 on my 14mm F2.8 I can make you cry.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Hahaha, what happened to "Berk?"

Mostly a 50/1.4 and 30/1.4, a couple with a 17-35. Not sure what you mean by "big dollars", but I've been paid less for more and more for less.

Well I saw your name in the EXIF data :D

Nice shots.

Here is my 50D at 1000 ISO, but they were just recreation shots, very fast action though, no money.

http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/judo/IMG_0868.jpg
http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/judo/IMG_0607.jpg
http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/judo/IMG_0603.jpg
http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/judo/IMG_0594.jpg

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Shut it you little leach...LOL....never seen someone that shoots his yap off as much as you.

Post it or shut it...LOL:rofl:


:rofl: Classic 89coupeness. :thumbsup:



Originally posted by 89coupe


Dude I've seen your downtown shots, I wouldn't be calling anyone out...LOL:rofl:

Weren't you the one who claimed that someone's downtown photo was yours, when in fact it was shot with his friend's P&S? :rofl:

[dr_jared88]

Originally posted by BerserkerCatSplat


Hahaha, what happened to "Berk?"

Mostly a 50/1.4 and 30/1.4, a couple with a 17-35. Not sure what you mean by "big dollars", but I've been paid less for more and more for less.

Were you able to purchase a regular $100 lunch with your earnings?

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
LOL wow he insults my "snap shot". I wish you luck when you print off a photo that is going to cost you $500 and will end up looking like crap. Best of luck with that.

Come on, aren't you man enough to take the challenge. One hand held picture at 1:00 am. What's wrong your not afraid are you?

I'm sure at ISO 3200 on my 14mm F2.8 I can make you cry.

Why don't you just post something you have already done. That landscape you posted and said was 680-1250 or whatever already showed up at 100 ISO, so what am I suppose to believe from you???

LOL:rofl:

[quazimoto]

Mleh yawn take the challenge or your a chicken.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Mleh yawn take the challenge or your a chicken.


LOL, I've already posted my 1000 ISO pics.

Waiting!:rofl:

[89coupe]

I forgot about this pic I did just to see what my 50D would do at 3200 ISO.

Hand held Quaz ;)

http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/IMG_0199.JPG

[quazimoto]

No no, I said downtown Calgary, 1am in the morning hand held.

[Go4Long]

Originally posted by 89coupe

Hand held


you brag about this entirely to often like we're supposed to care.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
No no, I said downtown Calgary, 1am in the morning hand held.

Just post anything you've done hand held at 3200 ISO sunshine.:rofl:

In fact, go snap a pic right now, anything, I don't care.

[quazimoto]

LOL you're a tool. Maybe when I get done my work tonight just for fun I'll take another quickie snapshot of the downtown core at ISO 3200 with my 14mm. FYI that shot you posted above which is likely around 15% to 20% crop size already has bad grain in it.

[Go4Long]

it has grain because he couldn't shoot at F11 like he normally does...and there for the picture isn't all it could have been.

[Willie Bobo]

.

[The_Rural_Juror]

^ http://www.swagdog.com/store/pc/catalog/301192000100DM.jpg

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
LOL you're a tool. Maybe when I get done my work tonight just for fun I'll take another quickie snapshot of the downtown core at ISO 3200 with my 14mm. FYI that shot you posted above which is likely around 15% to 20% crop size already has bad grain in it.

OK:rolleyes:

[rage2]

Not even sure what we're arguing about... but ya... 1600ISO.

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/india/g03.jpg

[rage2]

Found a 4000ISO pic, with a genuine need for it. Overcast day, 1/6400s shutter speed @ 105mm f/4. The 70-200 f/2.8 would've been handy for this shot...

No editing, just a 16:9 crop.

http://www.virgeweb.com/rage2/misc/4000iso.jpg

[quazimoto]

89coupe: these people i don't know in this review say the 70-200 is godly and the best!!

89coupe: same said people say Canon 5D Mark II and Dikon D300 are dope at ISO 1600+ but I think not.

[Pacman]

Originally posted by 89coupe
I forgot about this pic I did just to see what my 50D would do at 3200 ISO.

Hand held Quaz ;)

http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/IMG_0199.JPG

Jeesh, are you still wearing that watch? It's probably time to sell it to me and buy something else. :D

[89coupe]

Originally posted by rage2
Not even sure what we're arguing about... but ya... 1600ISO.

All I was trying to say is how often do you shoot above 1000 ISO...when it came to the following professions.

Wedding
Landscape
Nature
Magazines ie. Cars/Models

Thats it...lol.

Quaz posted bullshit and I called him out. LOL

Trevor was the only one who posted his own work.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by Pacman


Jeesh, are you still wearing that watch? It's probably time to sell it to me and buy something else. :D

LOL, I love that watch. You should hit redline up, he has like 3 or 4 $5K plus watches, he might be getting bored of one of them.

[quazimoto]

Like I said all the time. Now go to take a night time shot of the downtown core hand held, just one shot. If anything there is a really bad assumption amongst hobbyist photographers that you must shoot ISO 100-400 in order to get really sharp great photos.

There is a great difference in quality between low/mid grade cameras and higher end cameras made for more professional purposes. I do use extremely high ISO speeds when I do larger group shots and I have my subjects constantly in motion.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
Like I said all the time. Now go to take a night time shot of the downtown core hand held, just one shot.

You do this for a living dude, you must have at least one shot at 1000 ISO or higher, come on. LOL:rofl:

[quazimoto]

FYI 100% crop @ ISO 1600. Taken with a really crappy 70-200 F2.8L.

http://www.khphotography.ca/samples/oops.jpg

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
FYI 100% crop @ ISO 1600. Taken with a really crappy 70-200 F2.8L.

http://www.khphotography.ca/samples/oops.jpg

Says ISO 1250, man do you ever tell the truth? LOL:rofl:

[quazimoto]

I'd suggest checking your crap, its ISO 1600 in Camera Raw. Unfortunately doing horse shows at low ISOs would be impossible.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by quazimoto
I'd suggest checking your crap, its ISO 1600 in Camera Raw. Unfortunately doing horse shows at low ISOs would be impossible.

Software doesn't lie my friend.

http://www.bradstaylor.com/images/liar.jpg

[TDFTW]

Originally posted by 89coupe


You do this for a living dude, you must have at least one shot at 1000 ISO or higher, come on. LOL:rofl: Dude seriously shut THE FUCK UP already and get the fuck out of this forum.

Who do you think you are and what the hell is your issue? Just take your shitty photos and GTFO. Just cause you have a POS 50d and a nice lens to go along with it doesn't mean you KNOW photography and definatly doesnt mean you can PRODUCE great photography. Fuck Off.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by TDFTW
Dude seriously shut THE FUCK UP already and get the fuck out of this forum.

Who do you think you are and what the hell is your issue? Just take your shitty photos and GTFO. Just cause you have a POS 50d and a nice lens to go along with it doesn't mean you KNOW photography and definatly doesnt mean you can PRODUCE great photography. Fuck Off.


but but, I wanna play to.:rofl:

[djayz]

Originally posted by 89coupe


Software doesn't lie my friend.



You asked for a photo of 1000 ISO or higher and he posted it, whether he lied about the actual iso :whocares: , what's your deal man are you on roids?

[mboldt]

89coupe, how old are you? and what do you believe gives you the right to act like you're king shit and stab at everyone in this forum?

I'm in disbelief you haven't been banned.. It's amusing to watch you make a complete ass of yourself though.

Photobucket is down right now, but I'll post up some high ISO wedding stuff afterwards... If you aren't personally shooting high ISO, I don't get how you can be so narrow minded to say it isn't needed unless you're a pro sports shooter... Hell I use high ISO to shoot snapshots when I'm out at night or to document things when I don't / can't use flash. ISO performance is nice to have and you should be able to expect it when spending $1200+ on a body.

[89coupe]

Originally posted by djayz


You asked for a photo of 1000 ISO or higher and he posted it, whether he lied about the actual iso :whocares: , what's your deal man are you on roids?

The fact of the matter is I asked for specific photos of certain professions at a certain ISO or higher.

The only person who posted their EXIF info with ISO for that was Trevor.

Qauzi bullshitted twice. I don't see why you guys are getting bent out of shape.

I haven't bullshitted or said anything that wasn't true.:dunno:

[89coupe]

Originally posted by mboldt
89coupe, how old are you? and what do you believe gives you the right to act like you're king shit and stab at everyone in this forum?

I'm in disbelief you haven't been banned.. It's amusing to watch you make a complete ass of yourself though.

Photobucket is down right now, but I'll post up some high ISO wedding stuff afterwards... If you aren't personally shooting high ISO, I don't get how you can be so narrow minded to say it isn't needed unless you're a pro sports shooter... Hell I use high ISO to shoot snapshots when I'm out at night or to document things when I don't / can't use flash. ISO performance is nice to have and you should be able to expect it when spending $1200+ on a body.

LOL, I'm 36 years old. How old are you?

Half you guys are so insecure its pathetic, grow some balls, I posted an opinion and you guys jump at it claws deep...LOL

Then I call out bullshit and you still defend the bullshit...LOL

Whatever, I made my point. :rofl:

[djayz]

Originally posted by 89coupe


The fact of the matter is I asked for specific photos of certain professions at a certain ISO or higher.

The only person who posted their EXIF info with ISO for that was Trevor.

Qauzi bullshitted twice. I don't see why you guys are getting bent out of shape.

I haven't bullshitted or said anything that wasn't true.:dunno:

You got those specific photos you begged for from several different people yet you still go on to think that it's unecessary to shoot at 1000 ISO +. No body said anything about you bullshitting but what you say half the time is completely false.

Do this, go out tomorrow take shots "hand held" inside a a dark place going through the iso's and see which one of your shots looks the sharpest. If you think iso 400 is good enough for you congradulations you're still a douche, if 1000 ISO looks good you just proved to yourself that you're a shit talking douche on roids who can't take an opinion from anyone else. :D

Edit: Just to add, I'm saying this because in just about every photography thread on beyond you're in there talking out of your ass to anyone and everyone. There's a reason people give you shit because you dish it out like you're made of it. People are called professionals at photography for a reason and that reason is because they are good at it, not because they get paid. So get the silly thought out of your head that just because you can buy a 50d take a couple pana shots and spend $500 on a print that you're above and beyond anyone and everyone else's skills.

[Gibson]

Not sure if imageshack retains EXIF data (nor am I really bothered all that much if it doesn't), but here's a shot I did at 3200 ISO with my D300 hand held in a very poorly lit room in a friend's house.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/8677/dsc7866.jpg

Here's another one that I took with my four hundred dollar Nikon D40 at 1600. Not very pretty in spots, but useable.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2581/3700693884_28ec5ebc0a_o.jpg

I'm also not entirely sure what you're trying to prove.

"Lol, people who make a living off of taking pictures never use ISO's above 1000."

"Look everyone, my camera can do baller ISO's!"

In photojournalism (which is what I'm going to be doing), you use the tools that you have at your disposal. If a high ISO is one of them, then you use it.

[Melinda]

Meh, I dont have time to individually thumb through photos just to appease Mr. Know-it-all, but I can confidently say that I have used ISO 1000+ at least 100 times in the last year. Every single indoor wedding ceremony and reception (heck, even some outdoor shooting on particularly cloudy days), the dancing event that trevor posted photos from (I was also one of the photogs for that event), countless photos of my son in our home or other indoor locations (I hate using flash, I avoid it like the plague when there's any hope of using ambient light) and more that are currently slipping my mind.

Haha all wedding photogs use flashes, reflectors, etc? Stop talking. Seriously. Just stop. Venture out into the wedding world and find out how many brides would actually be thrilled about 100+ high powered flashes going off during their wedding ceremony? And for that matter, how many reverends/pastors/priests who would allow it? Trust me, it's not many for either side. HAHAHA and I would just love to see a pro photog send their assistant up to the alter with a big reflector disk to get that extra light on the bride and groom for a picture. That certainly wouldn't be distracting or take away from the quiet romantic moment. :rolleyes:

For cars, if you can avoid any kind of flash, you should. Reflections from lights are the #1 killer of automotive photos. When it's possible to use ambient lighting for cars, I encourage it. This especially applies to car shows. In order for this to work, you need a tripod and long exposure (which in a car show setting with hundreds of people milling about can be fairly unrealistic) or increasing ISO.

Landscape isn't too hard to imagine either. Ever shot a landscape photo at dusk or early morning? If you can avoid potential blur from motion caused by wind, branches, uneven ground, water, or whatever your shooting circumstances are (even with a tripod) just by increasing your ISO, it's a great option to have. Especially when increasing your ISO has virtually no threat of decreasing photo quality.

I can't tell you how thrilled I was that the ISO performance of the 40D was so great, and then stunned even further at the huge improvement that the 5D offered. It was one of the main reasons for me purchasing a second 5D body and selling my 40D.

Does everyone need incredible ISO performance? No. Is it important for a 'pro' on a fairly regular basis? Yep, I'd say so, especially if you're shooting anywhere other than in a lighting controlled studio. I know I've relied on it on a semi regular basis.

Why do you care so much anyways? If you are content shooting absolutely everything at ISO 400, f11 on a tripod, so be it. For those of us who care to step outside the box, we need a few more options that still provide client worthy quality.

[msommers]

The Coupe dragged you guys in!! The quote:

"Don't argue with an idiot. They'll drag you down to their level and beat you with experience"

comes to mind. I'll admit he can be useful, but it's not a good ratio for you dude.

[C4S]

:zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:

What the heck is going on? :dunno: :dunno:

Back to topic .. $11xx for 50D is a great deal! Bargain for lower end DSLR from Canon! :thumbsup:

However, we all know 50D isn't really better then 40D as well.

(I switched my 50D back to 40D! :nut: )

[Go4Long]

Originally posted by Melinda

Why do you care so much anyways? If you are content shooting absolutely everything at ISO 400, f11 on a tripod, so be it. For those of us who care to step outside the box, we need a few more options that still provide client worthy quality.

89Coupe doesn't use tripods...he hand holds everything...in fact his hand holding is so stable tripod designers strive to match his level of awesome.

just ask him...he'll tell you...it's kinda like chuck norris that way.

[TDFTW]

I use high iso (800+) on my canon 20D almost everytime I go out shooting. Especially when doing my cruise shots.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3379/3537145352_407e2a70d6_o.jpg

That shot was done on H (3200). HAND HELD OUT OF A MOVING CAR. Fuck your couch.

[TDFTW]

Heres another, iso 1600 iirc.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3625682741_c585fe0304_o.jpg

[AccentAE86]

wow this thread is a gong show! LOL

I never thought it would ever be called into question that people use high ISO.

Most of the day wedding shooting I'm RARELY lower than 800.

here's a couple to throw out i guess, since you asked...

1Ds3 F/1.8 ISO3200
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LindsayKurtisW/232341_0103.jpg

40D F/1.4 ISO1600
http://www.nightanddayphoto.ca/misc/forumpics/wff/LindsayKurtisW/233319_8808.jpg

[lint]

Originally posted by Go4Long


89Coupe doesn't use tripods...he hand holds everything...in fact his hand holding is so stable tripod designers strive to match his level of awesome.

just ask him...he'll tell you...it's kinda like chuck norris that way.

89coupe doesn't need a tripod because he has the ability to stop time!

[Trini]

lol wtf
5 pages

[dr_jared88]

Originally posted by Trini
lol wtf
5 pages

Are you really that surprised? Pretty much any thread that 89coupe shits in becomes a multi-paged e-cock measuring contest. I find them rather amusing.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by lint


89coupe doesn't need a tripod because he has the ability to stop time!

89coupe doesn't need a tripod because he is a tripod.;)

[lint]

Originally posted by dr_jared88
Are you really that surprised? Pretty much any thread that 89coupe shits in becomes a multi-paged e-cock measuring contest. I find them rather amusing.


Originally posted by The_Rural_Juror
89coupe doesn't need a tripod because he is a tripod.;)

I see what you did there...

But I'll take your word for it

[benyl]

Fuck. Why do you guys always hack on 89coupe?

He is the most knowledgeable photographer out there. He can take a mean Panoramic photo!

I mean, he has so much experience shooting at high ISOs that he makes them hot!

He also knows that the 50D is better than the 40D and that the F4 version of the 70-200 is better than the F2.8 version!

Leave 89coupe ALONE!!!!!

[mboldt]

I am loling at work right now and customers are wondering what the hell lol

Benyl has got the right idea.

[soupey]

haha

i duno about u guys, but fuck the camera gear, im still in awe of his car with the nav and tech package, apparently he's lost it, that or the nav doesn't work, guy seems to be quite lost on so many ends of life

duhhhh slower lens > faster lens?

duhhhh full frame iso quality > cropped sensor with MEGAPIXELZ crammed into it?

duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh pano's = beginning and end of all photography?





LOL, IM 89COUPE, and MMMMMMMMMMMM OMG HAHAH THIS IS HOW I REPLY to all my threads

LOL
http://forums.beyond.ca/images/smilies/rofl.gif

[TDFTW]

Lol he's saying 50D is better than a 40D now? Wow, he sure is ass backwards.

[Pacman]

Why don't all you pro photographers take pictures of your cocks tonight (remember, has to be handheld and use a high ISO) and we can see who has the biggest one and end this debate once and for all.

I just spent the last 20 minutes trying to get a good picture of mine, but the lighting is all wrong.

[01RedDX]

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[Melinda]

Originally posted by 01RedDX


Better use those macro buttons guys.
Especially for me :burnout:

[psycoticclown]

Originally posted by 01RedDX


Better use those macro buttons guys.

:rofl: :rofl:

[soupey]

http://www.grimstveit.no/jakob/img/cock.jpg

[gqmw]

Man, every single thread I go to either has jazzyb or 89couple plastered all over it...

But on a different note, The rails picture is pretty neat idea Gibson. Feels a little bit busy to me though.

[G-Suede]

I suspect that Brads dear old mom weened him off the tit too early. It's kind of funny that no matter what forum he is on....nobody respects his opinion or for that matter even likes the guy. It must be an odd feeling to habitually be known as the lowest common denominator. Congratulations you've done it again.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Originally posted by G-Suede
I suspect that Brads dear old mom weened him off the tit too early. It's kind of funny that no matter what forum he is on....nobody respects his opinion or for that matter even likes the guy. It must be an odd feeling to habitually be known as the lowest common denominator. Congratulations you've done it again.

Examples of other forums?

[ZorroAMG]

Originally posted by benyl
Fuck. Why do you guys always hack on 89coupe?

He is the most knowledgeable photographer out there. He can take a mean Panoramic photo!

I mean, he has so much experience shooting at high ISOs that he makes them hot!

He also knows that the 50D is better than the 40D and that the F4 version of the 70-200 is better than the F2.8 version!

Leave 89coupe ALONE!!!!!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/06/Crocker1.JPG